Vista - Is there ANY game that will play?

I've been trying to load some games - Quake II, Half-Life, Hexen, Heretic...
all those that work fine in 98SE and XP. So far, the only game my Vista Home
Premium will play is a joke on me for thinking I was upgrading!

Out of 19 different programs that ran in XP, only one installed on Vista.
All the rest, after all the 'are you sure' and 'need your permission' popups,
I get anotehr popup that Windoze wants to check with Microsoft to see if
there is a 'solution'.

Does MS intend to fix Vista soon? And would it be quicker if I can see if I
can get my XP machine back from the recycler and use that until the fixes,
patches to the fixes and fixes for the patches and patched patches are out?

Vista won't let me set up a wireless, a printer (tried 3!), network with
other computers that use 98SE, or set up scanners, camera, any 98/XP games
(solitaire works -- woo-woo!) nor can I get rid of all the 'are you sure' and
'need your permission', and other useless popus from Windoze.

No wonder the specs to run Vista are so high - it needs all the dual
processors and ram to cope with the popups!

I started out on a IBM 8 bit XT long before there was colour, and DOS 1.2
and upgraded constantly and, have been duped yet again. Should have kept my
XP machines.

VERY disappointed - again. Bill - get DOS right before you make another OS,
and maybe call the next one Boondoggle!

Hello,

A list of vista compatible games is posted here:
http://www.iexbeta.com/wiki/index.ph...atibility_List

--
Please comment about my performance about helping and/or resolving your
issue to Brian
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for Windows Vista MVP it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Jonathan Yaniv
Windows Live Butterfly Expert

"Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ED56D6C9-0BA9-48B7-8DAE-5B337D9206F9@microsoft.com...
> I've been trying to load some games - Quake II, Half-Life, Hexen,
> Heretic...
> all those that work fine in 98SE and XP. So far, the only game my Vista
> Home
> Premium will play is a joke on me for thinking I was upgrading!
>
> Out of 19 different programs that ran in XP, only one installed on Vista.
> All the rest, after all the 'are you sure' and 'need your permission'
> popups,
> I get anotehr popup that Windoze wants to check with Microsoft to see if
> there is a 'solution'.
>
> Does MS intend to fix Vista soon? And would it be quicker if I can see if
> I
> can get my XP machine back from the recycler and use that until the fixes,
> patches to the fixes and fixes for the patches and patched patches are
> out?
>
> Vista won't let me set up a wireless, a printer (tried 3!), network with
> other computers that use 98SE, or set up scanners, camera, any 98/XP games
> (solitaire works -- woo-woo!) nor can I get rid of all the 'are you sure'
> and
> 'need your permission', and other useless popus from Windoze.
>
> No wonder the specs to run Vista are so high - it needs all the dual
> processors and ram to cope with the popups!
>
> I started out on a IBM 8 bit XT long before there was colour, and DOS 1.2
> and upgraded constantly and, have been duped yet again. Should have kept
> my
> XP machines.
>
> VERY disappointed - again. Bill - get DOS right before you make another
> OS,
> and maybe call the next one Boondoggle!
>
>
>

You're kidding. I buy a new computer and all this new technology and fancy OS
and I am limited to 1/87th as to what programs, hardware and entertainment I
can put on this miserable excuse for an OS!

That list in the link SHOULD be on every computer that has Vista before the
computer gets past the till - as a WARNING to consumers to hang on to their
working cpomputer befoer investing any money in Vista that does nothing but
drain the bank account - faster mind yoium but drain it non-the-less.


"Jonathan Yaniv" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> A list of vista compatible games is posted here:
> http://www.iexbeta.com/wiki/index.ph...atibility_List
>
> --
> Please comment about my performance about helping and/or resolving your
> issue to Brian
> Boston by emailing bboston@microsoft.com. If you could please nominate me
> for Windows Vista MVP it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thank you
>
> Jonathan Yaniv
> Windows Live Butterfly Expert
>
> "Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ED56D6C9-0BA9-48B7-8DAE-5B337D9206F9@microsoft.com...
> > I've been trying to load some games - Quake II, Half-Life, Hexen,
> > Heretic...
> > all those that work fine in 98SE and XP. So far, the only game my Vista
> > Home
> > Premium will play is a joke on me for thinking I was upgrading!
> >
> > Out of 19 different programs that ran in XP, only one installed on Vista.
> > All the rest, after all the 'are you sure' and 'need your permission'
> > popups,
> > I get anotehr popup that Windoze wants to check with Microsoft to see if
> > there is a 'solution'.
> >
> > Does MS intend to fix Vista soon? And would it be quicker if I can see if
> > I
> > can get my XP machine back from the recycler and use that until the fixes,
> > patches to the fixes and fixes for the patches and patched patches are
> > out?
> >
> > Vista won't let me set up a wireless, a printer (tried 3!), network with
> > other computers that use 98SE, or set up scanners, camera, any 98/XP games
> > (solitaire works -- woo-woo!) nor can I get rid of all the 'are you sure'
> > and
> > 'need your permission', and other useless popus from Windoze.
> >
> > No wonder the specs to run Vista are so high - it needs all the dual
> > processors and ram to cope with the popups!
> >
> > I started out on a IBM 8 bit XT long before there was colour, and DOS 1.2
> > and upgraded constantly and, have been duped yet again. Should have kept
> > my
> > XP machines.
> >
> > VERY disappointed - again. Bill - get DOS right before you make another
> > OS,
> > and maybe call the next one Boondoggle!
> >
> >
> >
>

Nope, im not kidding. That’s the current list, that other users, have
contributed their own data to it.

--
Please comment about my performance about helping and/or resolving your
issue to Brian
Boston by emailing bboston@microsoft.com. If you could please nominate me
for Windows Vista MVP it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you

Jonathan Yaniv
Windows Live Butterfly Expert

"Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A2E1A929-8398-4879-B445-C7EC9A87975B@microsoft.com...
> You're kidding. I buy a new computer and all this new technology and fancy
> OS
> and I am limited to 1/87th as to what programs, hardware and entertainment
> I
> can put on this miserable excuse for an OS!
>
> That list in the link SHOULD be on every computer that has Vista before
> the
> computer gets past the till - as a WARNING to consumers to hang on to
> their
> working cpomputer befoer investing any money in Vista that does nothing
> but
> drain the bank account - faster mind yoium but drain it non-the-less.
>
>
> "Jonathan Yaniv" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> A list of vista compatible games is posted here:
>> http://www.iexbeta.com/wiki/index.ph...atibility_List
>>
>> --
>> Please comment about my performance about helping and/or resolving your
>> issue to Brian
>> Boston by emailing bboston@microsoft.com. If you could please nominate me
>> for Windows Vista MVP it would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Jonathan Yaniv
>> Windows Live Butterfly Expert
>>
>> "Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:ED56D6C9-0BA9-48B7-8DAE-5B337D9206F9@microsoft.com...
>> > I've been trying to load some games - Quake II, Half-Life, Hexen,
>> > Heretic...
>> > all those that work fine in 98SE and XP. So far, the only game my Vista
>> > Home
>> > Premium will play is a joke on me for thinking I was upgrading!
>> >
>> > Out of 19 different programs that ran in XP, only one installed on
>> > Vista.
>> > All the rest, after all the 'are you sure' and 'need your permission'
>> > popups,
>> > I get anotehr popup that Windoze wants to check with Microsoft to see
>> > if
>> > there is a 'solution'.
>> >
>> > Does MS intend to fix Vista soon? And would it be quicker if I can see
>> > if
>> > I
>> > can get my XP machine back from the recycler and use that until the
>> > fixes,
>> > patches to the fixes and fixes for the patches and patched patches are
>> > out?
>> >
>> > Vista won't let me set up a wireless, a printer (tried 3!), network
>> > with
>> > other computers that use 98SE, or set up scanners, camera, any 98/XP
>> > games
>> > (solitaire works -- woo-woo!) nor can I get rid of all the 'are you
>> > sure'
>> > and
>> > 'need your permission', and other useless popus from Windoze.
>> >
>> > No wonder the specs to run Vista are so high - it needs all the dual
>> > processors and ram to cope with the popups!
>> >
>> > I started out on a IBM 8 bit XT long before there was colour, and DOS
>> > 1.2
>> > and upgraded constantly and, have been duped yet again. Should have
>> > kept
>> > my
>> > XP machines.
>> >
>> > VERY disappointed - again. Bill - get DOS right before you make
>> > another
>> > OS,
>> > and maybe call the next one Boondoggle!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>

Ar the main games you play as old as Quake2 and HL ?

I most play all the new games, But I can play CS 1.6, though it's the steam.
version. I can also play Warcraft 3, which is a 1999 game.

Did you try running those games in XP Compat mode ? I don't play many games
that was made before 2000. The ones made after work pretty good. Sorry can't
offer you more help, but a game that's 10 year old, may not be compatibile

"Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ED56D6C9-0BA9-48B7-8DAE-5B337D9206F9@microsoft.com...
> I've been trying to load some games - Quake II, Half-Life, Hexen,
> Heretic...
> all those that work fine in 98SE and XP. So far, the only game my Vista
> Home
> Premium will play is a joke on me for thinking I was upgrading!
>
> Out of 19 different programs that ran in XP, only one installed on Vista.
> All the rest, after all the 'are you sure' and 'need your permission'
> popups,
> I get anotehr popup that Windoze wants to check with Microsoft to see if
> there is a 'solution'.
>
> Does MS intend to fix Vista soon? And would it be quicker if I can see if
> I
> can get my XP machine back from the recycler and use that until the fixes,
> patches to the fixes and fixes for the patches and patched patches are
> out?
>
> Vista won't let me set up a wireless, a printer (tried 3!), network with
> other computers that use 98SE, or set up scanners, camera, any 98/XP games
> (solitaire works -- woo-woo!) nor can I get rid of all the 'are you sure'
> and
> 'need your permission', and other useless popus from Windoze.
>
> No wonder the specs to run Vista are so high - it needs all the dual
> processors and ram to cope with the popups!
>
> I started out on a IBM 8 bit XT long before there was colour, and DOS 1.2
> and upgraded constantly and, have been duped yet again. Should have kept
> my
> XP machines.
>
> VERY disappointed - again. Bill - get DOS right before you make another
> OS,
> and maybe call the next one Boondoggle!
>
>
>

No issues with my software here, even the original Command and Conquer 95
works.

I notice at least three of the games you mention can use OpenGL, have you
tried installing the latest video drivers?

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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"Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ED56D6C9-0BA9-48B7-8DAE-5B337D9206F9@microsoft.com...
> I've been trying to load some games - Quake II, Half-Life, Hexen,
> Heretic...
> all those that work fine in 98SE and XP. So far, the only game my Vista
> Home
> Premium will play is a joke on me for thinking I was upgrading!
>
> Out of 19 different programs that ran in XP, only one installed on Vista.
> All the rest, after all the 'are you sure' and 'need your permission'
> popups,
> I get anotehr popup that Windoze wants to check with Microsoft to see if
> there is a 'solution'.
>
> Does MS intend to fix Vista soon? And would it be quicker if I can see if
> I
> can get my XP machine back from the recycler and use that until the fixes,
> patches to the fixes and fixes for the patches and patched patches are
> out?
>
> Vista won't let me set up a wireless, a printer (tried 3!), network with
> other computers that use 98SE, or set up scanners, camera, any 98/XP games
> (solitaire works -- woo-woo!) nor can I get rid of all the 'are you sure'
> and
> 'need your permission', and other useless popus from Windoze.
>
> No wonder the specs to run Vista are so high - it needs all the dual
> processors and ram to cope with the popups!
>
> I started out on a IBM 8 bit XT long before there was colour, and DOS 1.2
> and upgraded constantly and, have been duped yet again. Should have kept
> my
> XP machines.
>
> VERY disappointed - again. Bill - get DOS right before you make another
> OS,
> and maybe call the next one Boondoggle!
>
>
>

"That list in the link SHOULD be on every computer..."
Not really.
That is not an official list and there is no official list.
It is not an all inclusive list.
That site has nothing to do with Microsoft.
You certainly can not hold Microsoft or anyone else responsible for any
errors or omissions that may be on that list.

Part of the necessary research someone should do while considering an
operating system upgrade is verify your essential hardware and software
works with the appropriate manufacturer.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A2E1A929-8398-4879-B445-C7EC9A87975B@microsoft.com...
> You're kidding. I buy a new computer and all this new technology and fancy
> OS
> and I am limited to 1/87th as to what programs, hardware and entertainment
> I
> can put on this miserable excuse for an OS!
>
> That list in the link SHOULD be on every computer that has Vista before
> the
> computer gets past the till - as a WARNING to consumers to hang on to
> their
> working cpomputer befoer investing any money in Vista that does nothing
> but
> drain the bank account - faster mind yoium but drain it non-the-less.
>
>
> "Jonathan Yaniv" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> A list of vista compatible games is posted here:
>> http://www.iexbeta.com/wiki/index.ph...atibility_List
>>
>> --
>> Please comment about my performance about helping and/or resolving your
>> issue to Brian
>> Boston by emailing bboston@microsoft.com. If you could please nominate me
>> for Windows Vista MVP it would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Jonathan Yaniv
>> Windows Live Butterfly Expert
>>
>> "Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:ED56D6C9-0BA9-48B7-8DAE-5B337D9206F9@microsoft.com...
>> > I've been trying to load some games - Quake II, Half-Life, Hexen,
>> > Heretic...
>> > all those that work fine in 98SE and XP. So far, the only game my Vista
>> > Home
>> > Premium will play is a joke on me for thinking I was upgrading!
>> >
>> > Out of 19 different programs that ran in XP, only one installed on
>> > Vista.
>> > All the rest, after all the 'are you sure' and 'need your permission'
>> > popups,
>> > I get anotehr popup that Windoze wants to check with Microsoft to see
>> > if
>> > there is a 'solution'.
>> >
>> > Does MS intend to fix Vista soon? And would it be quicker if I can see
>> > if
>> > I
>> > can get my XP machine back from the recycler and use that until the
>> > fixes,
>> > patches to the fixes and fixes for the patches and patched patches are
>> > out?
>> >
>> > Vista won't let me set up a wireless, a printer (tried 3!), network
>> > with
>> > other computers that use 98SE, or set up scanners, camera, any 98/XP
>> > games
>> > (solitaire works -- woo-woo!) nor can I get rid of all the 'are you
>> > sure'
>> > and
>> > 'need your permission', and other useless popus from Windoze.
>> >
>> > No wonder the specs to run Vista are so high - it needs all the dual
>> > processors and ram to cope with the popups!
>> >
>> > I started out on a IBM 8 bit XT long before there was colour, and DOS
>> > 1.2
>> > and upgraded constantly and, have been duped yet again. Should have
>> > kept
>> > my
>> > XP machines.
>> >
>> > VERY disappointed - again. Bill - get DOS right before you make
>> > another
>> > OS,
>> > and maybe call the next one Boondoggle!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>

I was able to find my old Quake 2 CD and installed it (under Vista64 no
less) and it ran. I forgot that it came up in 320x200 windows mode, but I
was able to get it to full screen.

Anyone remember how to turn mouselook on ? Man that game is ugly, I remember
when I got my PowerVR card and thought life couldn't get any better.



"Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
news:WM-dnUeNiOHZaX3YnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d@insightbb.com...
> Ar the main games you play as old as Quake2 and HL ?
>
> I most play all the new games, But I can play CS 1.6, though it's the
> steam. version. I can also play Warcraft 3, which is a 1999 game.
>
> Did you try running those games in XP Compat mode ? I don't play many
> games that was made before 2000. The ones made after work pretty good.
> Sorry can't offer you more help, but a game that's 10 year old, may not be
> compatibile
>
> "Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ED56D6C9-0BA9-48B7-8DAE-5B337D9206F9@microsoft.com...
>> I've been trying to load some games - Quake II, Half-Life, Hexen,
>> Heretic...
>> all those that work fine in 98SE and XP. So far, the only game my Vista
>> Home
>> Premium will play is a joke on me for thinking I was upgrading!
>>
>> Out of 19 different programs that ran in XP, only one installed on Vista.
>> All the rest, after all the 'are you sure' and 'need your permission'
>> popups,
>> I get anotehr popup that Windoze wants to check with Microsoft to see if
>> there is a 'solution'.
>>
>> Does MS intend to fix Vista soon? And would it be quicker if I can see if
>> I
>> can get my XP machine back from the recycler and use that until the
>> fixes,
>> patches to the fixes and fixes for the patches and patched patches are
>> out?
>>
>> Vista won't let me set up a wireless, a printer (tried 3!), network with
>> other computers that use 98SE, or set up scanners, camera, any 98/XP
>> games
>> (solitaire works -- woo-woo!) nor can I get rid of all the 'are you sure'
>> and
>> 'need your permission', and other useless popus from Windoze.
>>
>> No wonder the specs to run Vista are so high - it needs all the dual
>> processors and ram to cope with the popups!
>>
>> I started out on a IBM 8 bit XT long before there was colour, and DOS 1.2
>> and upgraded constantly and, have been duped yet again. Should have kept
>> my
>> XP machines.
>>
>> VERY disappointed - again. Bill - get DOS right before you make another
>> OS,
>> and maybe call the next one Boondoggle!
>>
>>
>>
>
>

I just ran the timedemo and map demo1.dm2 and got 548fps...sweet ! it
actualy plays in like 1.3 secs

"Dale "Mad_Murdock" White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
news:Ub6dnTPXD7IGY33YnZ2dnUVZ_silnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>I was able to find my old Quake 2 CD and installed it (under Vista64 no
>less) and it ran. I forgot that it came up in 320x200 windows mode, but I
>was able to get it to full screen.
>
> Anyone remember how to turn mouselook on ? Man that game is ugly, I
> remember when I got my PowerVR card and thought life couldn't get any
> better.
>
>
>
> "Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> wrote in message
> news:WM-dnUeNiOHZaX3YnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d@insightbb.com...
>> Ar the main games you play as old as Quake2 and HL ?
>>
>> I most play all the new games, But I can play CS 1.6, though it's the
>> steam. version. I can also play Warcraft 3, which is a 1999 game.
>>
>> Did you try running those games in XP Compat mode ? I don't play many
>> games that was made before 2000. The ones made after work pretty good.
>> Sorry can't offer you more help, but a game that's 10 year old, may not
>> be compatibile
>>
>> "Shell" <Shell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:ED56D6C9-0BA9-48B7-8DAE-5B337D9206F9@microsoft.com...
>>> I've been trying to load some games - Quake II, Half-Life, Hexen,
>>> Heretic...
>>> all those that work fine in 98SE and XP. So far, the only game my Vista
>>> Home
>>> Premium will play is a joke on me for thinking I was upgrading!
>>>
>>> Out of 19 different programs that ran in XP, only one installed on
>>> Vista.
>>> All the rest, after all the 'are you sure' and 'need your permission'
>>> popups,
>>> I get anotehr popup that Windoze wants to check with Microsoft to see if
>>> there is a 'solution'.
>>>
>>> Does MS intend to fix Vista soon? And would it be quicker if I can see
>>> if I
>>> can get my XP machine back from the recycler and use that until the
>>> fixes,
>>> patches to the fixes and fixes for the patches and patched patches are
>>> out?
>>>
>>> Vista won't let me set up a wireless, a printer (tried 3!), network with
>>> other computers that use 98SE, or set up scanners, camera, any 98/XP
>>> games
>>> (solitaire works -- woo-woo!) nor can I get rid of all the 'are you
>>> sure' and
>>> 'need your permission', and other useless popus from Windoze.
>>>
>>> No wonder the specs to run Vista are so high - it needs all the dual
>>> processors and ram to cope with the popups!
>>>
>>> I started out on a IBM 8 bit XT long before there was colour, and DOS
>>> 1.2
>>> and upgraded constantly and, have been duped yet again. Should have kept
>>> my
>>> XP machines.
>>>
>>> VERY disappointed - again. Bill - get DOS right before you make another
>>> OS,
>>> and maybe call the next one Boondoggle!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

biggest help I've found so far is telling the installer and the game itself
to run in administrator mode, even if your user account has admin privileges.
the other fix is to give all users full access to the directory that the
game is installed in, as many older games write to the program directory,
which is disallowed by default in vista.


"Shell" wrote:

> I've been trying to load some games - Quake II, Half-Life, Hexen, Heretic...
> all those that work fine in 98SE and XP. So far, the only game my Vista Home
> Premium will play is a joke on me for thinking I was upgrading!
>
> Out of 19 different programs that ran in XP, only one installed on Vista.
> All the rest, after all the 'are you sure' and 'need your permission' popups,
> I get anotehr popup that Windoze wants to check with Microsoft to see if
> there is a 'solution'.
>
> Does MS intend to fix Vista soon? And would it be quicker if I can see if I
> can get my XP machine back from the recycler and use that until the fixes,
> patches to the fixes and fixes for the patches and patched patches are out?
>
> Vista won't let me set up a wireless, a printer (tried 3!), network with
> other computers that use 98SE, or set up scanners, camera, any 98/XP games
> (solitaire works -- woo-woo!) nor can I get rid of all the 'are you sure' and
> 'need your permission', and other useless popus from Windoze.
>
> No wonder the specs to run Vista are so high - it needs all the dual
> processors and ram to cope with the popups!
>
> I started out on a IBM 8 bit XT long before there was colour, and DOS 1.2
> and upgraded constantly and, have been duped yet again. Should have kept my
> XP machines.
>
> VERY disappointed - again. Bill - get DOS right before you make another OS,
> and maybe call the next one Boondoggle!
>
>
>