Vista - Quake 4 - not working

Hey, I have a Vaio VGN-AR31S laptop and try as I might, I CANNOT get Quake 4
to work on it despite many of my friends having no problems.
I managed after many attempts to get the game to load, and even managed to
connect to a server but only by accessing the console as my mouse wont work
within the game at all. I've tried 3 different mice now - and despite being
able to get into the game, I stare at my feet, spin on the spot and then when
I'm VERY bored, I can somehow manage to use the mouse to shoot a couple of my
toes off...but thats it.

Firstly, I've been unable to download updated drivers from Nvidia as when I
tried to install it kept telling me I didnt have 32 bit. So I eventually
found a site where they gave you a modified file which when added to the
dowload of the new driver made it install.

However, having done this - now the game wont load at all, let alone get me
to a point where I can do my on the spot spinning due to no mouse function. I
have no idea if its the graphics driver causing the problem as everything
else seems to be working properly apart from the mouse? Well at least it did
before the updated driver!

Graphics driver is a GE Force Go 7600 GT, driver version (at the moment -
though I'll prob roll back) is 165.01

I'm about to go o a rather boring holiday with my Dad and WITHOUT my
Quake!!!!!!! Please help me!

Oh and by the way.... I've tried all the 'run as admin' and turned off UAC as
well...

"Missy" wrote:

> Hey, I have a Vaio VGN-AR31S laptop and try as I might, I CANNOT get Quake 4
> to work on it despite many of my friends having no problems.
> I managed after many attempts to get the game to load, and even managed to
> connect to a server but only by accessing the console as my mouse wont work
> within the game at all. I've tried 3 different mice now - and despite being
> able to get into the game, I stare at my feet, spin on the spot and then when
> I'm VERY bored, I can somehow manage to use the mouse to shoot a couple of my
> toes off...but thats it.
>
> Firstly, I've been unable to download updated drivers from Nvidia as when I
> tried to install it kept telling me I didnt have 32 bit. So I eventually
> found a site where they gave you a modified file which when added to the
> dowload of the new driver made it install.
>
> However, having done this - now the game wont load at all, let alone get me
> to a point where I can do my on the spot spinning due to no mouse function. I
> have no idea if its the graphics driver causing the problem as everything
> else seems to be working properly apart from the mouse? Well at least it did
> before the updated driver!
>
> Graphics driver is a GE Force Go 7600 GT, driver version (at the moment -
> though I'll prob roll back) is 165.01
>
> I'm about to go o a rather boring holiday with my Dad and WITHOUT my
> Quake!!!!!!! Please help me!

"Missy" <Missy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CA9ACA99-1099-4DCC-A0DE-D194716CA9E7@microsoft.com...
> Oh and by the way.... I've tried all the 'run as admin' and turned off UAC
> as
> well...
>
> "Missy" wrote:
>
>> Hey, I have a Vaio VGN-AR31S laptop and try as I might, I CANNOT get
>> Quake 4
>> to work on it despite many of my friends having no problems.
>> I managed after many attempts to get the game to load, and even managed
>> to
>> connect to a server but only by accessing the console as my mouse wont
>> work
>> within the game at all. I've tried 3 different mice now - and despite
>> being
>> able to get into the game, I stare at my feet, spin on the spot and then
>> when
>> I'm VERY bored, I can somehow manage to use the mouse to shoot a couple
>> of my
>> toes off...but thats it.

First problem, Sony doesn't list a Vaio VGN-AR31S on their website, was
going to see which version of Vista you have on your computer. I SUSPECT you
have the 64-bit version. Uncommon with commercial computers, but not unheard
of.

>> Firstly, I've been unable to download updated drivers from Nvidia as when
>> I
>> tried to install it kept telling me I didnt have 32 bit. So I eventually
>> found a site where they gave you a modified file which when added to the
>> dowload of the new driver made it install.

If nVidia says you don't have 32 bit, you migth need the 64bit. If you
installed the 32 bit drivers that might be why Quake no longer runs. What
was this "site" you found? I mean if you have a driver that's not designed
for your OS then you shouldn't install it.

>> Graphics driver is a GE Force Go 7600 GT, driver version (at the moment -
>> though I'll prob roll back) is 165.01

Well you may not need to rollback you should just make sure you're not
running Vista 64-bit. Bring up Start menu, type "System" and select the icon
that just says "System".

In the System section of this window it will say either:

System Type: 32-bit Operating System

or

System Type: 64-bit Operating System

if you have 64-bit, go to nVidia.com, and get the 64-bit Vista Drivers for
your Geforce Go 7600GT.

That'll get the game running again.

NOW, your mouse problem. In Quake, go into your options menu for
mouse/keyboard control, select "Default" settings, or reset, or whatever.

Sounds like your system settings just got borked.

You were right in the first place, if the game runs it's not your video
driver. Your mouse is not working, your mouse is the problem, or the game's
ability to correctly recognize the mouse controls.

Good luck,
A.

Andy, thanks so much for the reply! I did what you said - I DEF have 32 bit,
though I did try to download the 64bit drivers just in case it worked, and I
got the same error message.

So...i rolled back and now have the original drivers. I then uninstalled
Quake and the 1.3 update and deleted everything I could find that was left
behind and reinstalled the lot. And guess wot!!! It worked!! For about 5
mins...grrrrrrrr

Well, to be fair it worked until I exited Quake and then when I tried to
relaunch the next time I wanted to play...the thing loads up fine, but the
mouse WILL NOT work on it. If I open console...then no problem, but as soon
as I exit...nothing. My G7 works in Quake on my Alien...but just not on here.
HT eonly difference between the two machines is obv I have a better graphics
card on Alien...and Vista. Alien runs on XP. But the mouse works on
lappy+Vista out of Quake - tho from time to time it does stop and disappears.

Ive emailed logitech to see if they can help as well. But I am now on
holiday - and its cloudy - and I'm with my Dad and his friends - and I have
no quake!!! <g>

Missy

"Andy [Ex-MSFT]" wrote:

> "Missy" <Missy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CA9ACA99-1099-4DCC-A0DE-D194716CA9E7@microsoft.com...
> > Oh and by the way.... I've tried all the 'run as admin' and turned off UAC
> > as
> > well...
> >
> > "Missy" wrote:
> >
> >> Hey, I have a Vaio VGN-AR31S laptop and try as I might, I CANNOT get
> >> Quake 4
> >> to work on it despite many of my friends having no problems.
> >> I managed after many attempts to get the game to load, and even managed
> >> to
> >> connect to a server but only by accessing the console as my mouse wont
> >> work
> >> within the game at all. I've tried 3 different mice now - and despite
> >> being
> >> able to get into the game, I stare at my feet, spin on the spot and then
> >> when
> >> I'm VERY bored, I can somehow manage to use the mouse to shoot a couple
> >> of my
> >> toes off...but thats it.
>
> First problem, Sony doesn't list a Vaio VGN-AR31S on their website, was
> going to see which version of Vista you have on your computer. I SUSPECT you
> have the 64-bit version. Uncommon with commercial computers, but not unheard
> of.
>
> >> Firstly, I've been unable to download updated drivers from Nvidia as when
> >> I
> >> tried to install it kept telling me I didnt have 32 bit. So I eventually
> >> found a site where they gave you a modified file which when added to the
> >> dowload of the new driver made it install.
>
> If nVidia says you don't have 32 bit, you migth need the 64bit. If you
> installed the 32 bit drivers that might be why Quake no longer runs. What
> was this "site" you found? I mean if you have a driver that's not designed
> for your OS then you shouldn't install it.
>
> >> Graphics driver is a GE Force Go 7600 GT, driver version (at the moment -
> >> though I'll prob roll back) is 165.01
>
> Well you may not need to rollback you should just make sure you're not
> running Vista 64-bit. Bring up Start menu, type "System" and select the icon
> that just says "System".
>
> In the System section of this window it will say either:
>
> System Type: 32-bit Operating System
>
> or
>
> System Type: 64-bit Operating System
>
> if you have 64-bit, go to nVidia.com, and get the 64-bit Vista Drivers for
> your Geforce Go 7600GT.
>
> That'll get the game running again.
>
> NOW, your mouse problem. In Quake, go into your options menu for
> mouse/keyboard control, select "Default" settings, or reset, or whatever.
>
> Sounds like your system settings just got borked.
>
> You were right in the first place, if the game runs it's not your video
> driver. Your mouse is not working, your mouse is the problem, or the game's
> ability to correctly recognize the mouse controls.
>
> Good luck,
> A.
>

"Missy" <Missy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5F308B95-48F3-4508-AE49-11E32B083B1A@microsoft.com...
> Andy, thanks so much for the reply! I did what you said - I DEF have 32
> bit,
> though I did try to download the 64bit drivers just in case it worked, and
> I
> got the same error message.
>
> So...i rolled back and now have the original drivers. I then uninstalled
> Quake and the 1.3 update and deleted everything I could find that was left
> behind and reinstalled the lot. And guess wot!!! It worked!! For about 5
> mins...grrrrrrrr
>
> Well, to be fair it worked until I exited Quake and then when I tried to
> relaunch the next time I wanted to play...the thing loads up fine, but the
> mouse WILL NOT work on it. If I open console...then no problem, but as
> soon
> as I exit...nothing. My G7 works in Quake on my Alien...but just not on
> here.
> HT eonly difference between the two machines is obv I have a better
> graphics
> card on Alien...and Vista. Alien runs on XP. But the mouse works on
> lappy+Vista out of Quake - tho from time to time it does stop and
> disappears.
>
> Ive emailed logitech to see if they can help as well. But I am now on
> holiday - and its cloudy - and I'm with my Dad and his friends - and I
> have
> no quake!!! <g>
>
> Missy

Could just be Quake 4. Odd. I'll have to dig out my copy and load it again.
Could be the mouse drivers, but that sounds like a strange thing to be
happening.

Sorry we couldn't get you setup before your vacation. Sorry it's so cloudy,
when you get back try posting your Quake .CFG files. Maybe something in
there is screwy. Like it's not saving your settings correctly.

Try the game in a window maybe? just to test it, press Alt+Enter to switch
to windowed mode.

Have fun on "holiday",
Andy

Andy

Its not cloudy anymore... and, would you believe it, Quake now works
perfectly! I played about with compatibility... ran it in mode for windows XP
(service pack2) and disabled visual themes and scaling on high DPI settings.

To be honest, I have absolutely NO idea what I was doing, just played about
and after I had done this particular selection the mouse worked just fine.
Dont know what that says about Quake 4, Vista, my mouse or what - but it
might help you if you get any similar questions.

Thanks for your support/interest - made me feel like I wasnt trying to solve
it all by myself!

Of course now,,,Im having to fit Quake into my sunbathing schedule <g>

Thanks again,
Missy
Kisssssssss

"Andy [YaYa]" wrote:

> "Missy" <Missy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5F308B95-48F3-4508-AE49-11E32B083B1A@microsoft.com...
> > Andy, thanks so much for the reply! I did what you said - I DEF have 32
> > bit,
> > though I did try to download the 64bit drivers just in case it worked, and
> > I
> > got the same error message.
> >
> > So...i rolled back and now have the original drivers. I then uninstalled
> > Quake and the 1.3 update and deleted everything I could find that was left
> > behind and reinstalled the lot. And guess wot!!! It worked!! For about 5
> > mins...grrrrrrrr
> >
> > Well, to be fair it worked until I exited Quake and then when I tried to
> > relaunch the next time I wanted to play...the thing loads up fine, but the
> > mouse WILL NOT work on it. If I open console...then no problem, but as
> > soon
> > as I exit...nothing. My G7 works in Quake on my Alien...but just not on
> > here.
> > HT eonly difference between the two machines is obv I have a better
> > graphics
> > card on Alien...and Vista. Alien runs on XP. But the mouse works on
> > lappy+Vista out of Quake - tho from time to time it does stop and
> > disappears.
> >
> > Ive emailed logitech to see if they can help as well. But I am now on
> > holiday - and its cloudy - and I'm with my Dad and his friends - and I
> > have
> > no quake!!! <g>
> >
> > Missy
>
> Could just be Quake 4. Odd. I'll have to dig out my copy and load it again.
> Could be the mouse drivers, but that sounds like a strange thing to be
> happening.
>
> Sorry we couldn't get you setup before your vacation. Sorry it's so cloudy,
> when you get back try posting your Quake .CFG files. Maybe something in
> there is screwy. Like it's not saving your settings correctly.
>
> Try the game in a window maybe? just to test it, press Alt+Enter to switch
> to windowed mode.
>
> Have fun on "holiday",
> Andy
>

"Missy" <Missy@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:72D089C2-8F75-4661-9BD1-A181A5498763@microsoft.com...
> Andy
>
> Its not cloudy anymore... and, would you believe it, Quake now works
> perfectly! I played about with compatibility... ran it in mode for windows
> XP
> (service pack2) and disabled visual themes and scaling on high DPI
> settings.
>
> To be honest, I have absolutely NO idea what I was doing, just played
> about
> and after I had done this particular selection the mouse worked just fine.
> Dont know what that says about Quake 4, Vista, my mouse or what - but it
> might help you if you get any similar questions.
>
> Thanks for your support/interest - made me feel like I wasnt trying to
> solve
> it all by myself!
>
> Of course now,,,Im having to fit Quake into my sunbathing schedule <g>
>
> Thanks again,
> Missy
> Kisssssssss

dear god send photos... android8675 [at] hotmail [dot] com

Being a Quake fan, did you hear that all the iD games pre-Quake 4 are
available on Steam for about $63? Everything from Commander Keen through
Doom 3. http://www.steampowered.com

Glad you got it working. If you feel like experimenting, try turning off XP
mode, run the game again, if still ok try removing another like the high DPI
settings. Probably just one of those Vista "features" causing the problem.

I think we took all your clouds over to San Francisco...
Andy

I took a look at the list of iD games steam is selling. I have every one of
them except Quake3:Team Arena. Even Keen and the original Wolf3d (came on a
magazine cd)..hehe, guess thats a bad sign.

Mark


>
> Being a Quake fan, did you hear that all the iD games pre-Quake 4 are
> available on Steam for about $63? Everything from Commander Keen through
> Doom 3. http://www.steampowered.com
>

"Mark" <mark_butler@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:2F06DE01-0E47-4632-AE1D-A2EF55977846@microsoft.com...
>I took a look at the list of iD games steam is selling. I have every one of
>them except Quake3:Team Arena. Even Keen and the original Wolf3d (came on a
>magazine cd)..hehe, guess thats a bad sign.

>> Being a Quake fan, did you hear that all the iD games pre-Quake 4 are
>> available on Steam for about $63? Everything from Commander Keen through
>> Doom 3. http://www.steampowered.com

I actually re-purchased several games on Steam simply because Steam is
pretty convienent, if I'm at a friends house I can login and download
something to play quite easily. I don't have to worry about having the CDs
or copy protection problems, and the chat system isn't too bad either. Can't
wait for the new steam communities to launch.

If you can find an old Half-Life CD you can send the key in and you can play
Half-Life and other stuff for nothing.

It's a good system, I'm glad iD choose it instead of trying to do their own
thing.

Never did send those photos Andy :P

New Lappy... (I threw the old one - I blame my 1/2 Italian heritage) same problem on new lappy with quake..so came back here to remind myself how I fixed it! Hadn't seen your last post... so sorry about lack of photos.. but I will try fiddling with settings to see if I can use it out of XP compat. mode!

Hope all is good with u if u r still around