my current laptop has windows XP tablet PC edition on it. i got it with XP
on it since i want to wait a while to upgrade to vista, either that or i
want to do a dual boot between XP and vista. either way, when i purchased my
notebook, there was an option to buy it with vista enterprise edition, and i
was wondering if anyone knows where i can purchase that version of vista,
instead of getting ultimate or business edition.

Windows Vista Enterprise is only available to Volume License customers with
Enterprise Agreement and Software Assurance.

If you need Tablet PC functionality, Windows Vista Business or Ultimate will
do just fine, even the Home Premium edition includes Tablet functionality. I
assume you might connect to a corporate network, thats why I recommended
Vista Business since XP Tablet PC edition is a subset of XP Professional.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23tmVwm$EIHA.3360@xxxxxx

> my current laptop has windows XP tablet PC edition on it. i got it with XP
> on it since i want to wait a while to upgrade to vista, either that or i
> want to do a dual boot between XP and vista. either way, when i purchased
> my notebook, there was an option to buy it with vista enterprise edition,
> and i was wondering if anyone knows where i can purchase that version of
> vista, instead of getting ultimate or business edition.
>

Additional information about Windows Vista Enterprise:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...e/default.mspx

Vista Enterprise is also activated differently from the other Vista SKUs:
http://technet.microsoft.com/windowsvista/bb335291.aspx
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23tmVwm$EIHA.3360@xxxxxx

> my current laptop has windows XP tablet PC edition on it. i got it with XP
> on it since i want to wait a while to upgrade to vista, either that or i
> want to do a dual boot between XP and vista. either way, when i purchased
> my notebook, there was an option to buy it with vista enterprise edition,
> and i was wondering if anyone knows where i can purchase that version of
> vista, instead of getting ultimate or business edition.
>

well, in business and home premium i cannot use the TPM security chip that
is installed in my PC. and i have no idea if ultimate edition supports
virtualization technologies. i think it might though. i think it should
though since that feature was found in the BIOS of my PC. having it enabled
makes my PC run faster if enterprise is only availible in volume licensing
than i think i might go with ultimate edition because of the TPM security
chip. i also want the ultimate extras i guess...

when is vists service pack 1 supposed to come out?
"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e0EFZr$EIHA.4228@xxxxxx

> Windows Vista Enterprise is only available to Volume License customers
> with Enterprise Agreement and Software Assurance.
>
> If you need Tablet PC functionality, Windows Vista Business or Ultimate
> will do just fine, even the Home Premium edition includes Tablet
> functionality. I assume you might connect to a corporate network, thats
> why I recommended Vista Business since XP Tablet PC edition is a subset of
> XP Professional.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23tmVwm$EIHA.3360@xxxxxx

>> my current laptop has windows XP tablet PC edition on it. i got it with
>> XP on it since i want to wait a while to upgrade to vista, either that or
>> i want to do a dual boot between XP and vista. either way, when i
>> purchased my notebook, there was an option to buy it with vista
>> enterprise edition, and i was wondering if anyone knows where i can
>> purchase that version of vista, instead of getting ultimate or business
>> edition.
>>

>
>

TPM 1.2 chip is supported under Windows Vista Business, Enterprise and
Ultimate.
http://www.pctipsbox.com/use-bitlock...hout-tpm-chip/

Which Tablet PC is this by the way? I am very interested in getting one.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23ZxOuKAFIHA.284@xxxxxx

> well, in business and home premium i cannot use the TPM security chip that
> is installed in my PC. and i have no idea if ultimate edition supports
> virtualization technologies. i think it might though. i think it should
> though since that feature was found in the BIOS of my PC. having it
> enabled makes my PC run faster if enterprise is only availible in volume
> licensing than i think i might go with ultimate edition because of the TPM
> security chip. i also want the ultimate extras i guess...
>
> when is vists service pack 1 supposed to come out?
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e0EFZr$EIHA.4228@xxxxxx

>> Windows Vista Enterprise is only available to Volume License customers
>> with Enterprise Agreement and Software Assurance.
>>
>> If you need Tablet PC functionality, Windows Vista Business or Ultimate
>> will do just fine, even the Home Premium edition includes Tablet
>> functionality. I assume you might connect to a corporate network, thats
>> why I recommended Vista Business since XP Tablet PC edition is a subset
>> of XP Professional.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23tmVwm$EIHA.3360@xxxxxx

>>> my current laptop has windows XP tablet PC edition on it. i got it with
>>> XP on it since i want to wait a while to upgrade to vista, either that
>>> or i want to do a dual boot between XP and vista. either way, when i
>>> purchased my notebook, there was an option to buy it with vista
>>> enterprise edition, and i was wondering if anyone knows where i can
>>> purchase that version of vista, instead of getting ultimate or business
>>> edition.
>>>

>>
>>

>
>

i have a tc4400. it is very good. better than the other tablet that i have
used or seen on the market by so much. here is the product page for the
tc4400.

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en...5-1847962.html

if you want any additional info about the product after looking at the
product page, feel free to ask me. i studied the ducumentation inside and
out before buying it and plus i asked HP tons of questions about it before
buying it as well about anythingthing that i did not see in the
documentation or on the general product page.

one of the nice things about this notebook is that it has a PCMCIA card slot
onstead of a ExpessCard slot.
"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23hQoVwAFIHA.3916@xxxxxx

> TPM 1.2 chip is supported under Windows Vista Business, Enterprise and
> Ultimate.
> http://www.pctipsbox.com/use-bitlock...hout-tpm-chip/
>
> Which Tablet PC is this by the way? I am very interested in getting one.
>
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23ZxOuKAFIHA.284@xxxxxx

>> well, in business and home premium i cannot use the TPM security chip
>> that is installed in my PC. and i have no idea if ultimate edition
>> supports virtualization technologies. i think it might though. i think it
>> should though since that feature was found in the BIOS of my PC. having
>> it enabled makes my PC run faster if enterprise is only availible in
>> volume licensing than i think i might go with ultimate edition because of
>> the TPM security chip. i also want the ultimate extras i guess...
>>
>> when is vists service pack 1 supposed to come out?
>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e0EFZr$EIHA.4228@xxxxxx

>>> Windows Vista Enterprise is only available to Volume License customers
>>> with Enterprise Agreement and Software Assurance.
>>>
>>> If you need Tablet PC functionality, Windows Vista Business or Ultimate
>>> will do just fine, even the Home Premium edition includes Tablet
>>> functionality. I assume you might connect to a corporate network, thats
>>> why I recommended Vista Business since XP Tablet PC edition is a subset
>>> of XP Professional.
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:%23tmVwm$EIHA.3360@xxxxxx
>>>> my current laptop has windows XP tablet PC edition on it. i got it with
>>>> XP on it since i want to wait a while to upgrade to vista, either that
>>>> or i want to do a dual boot between XP and vista. either way, when i
>>>> purchased my notebook, there was an option to buy it with vista
>>>> enterprise edition, and i was wondering if anyone knows where i can
>>>> purchase that version of vista, instead of getting ultimate or business
>>>> edition.
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>

its interesting about how u can use the bitlocker security without the
security chip. by the way business edition does not have full support for
the TPM security chip.
"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23hQoVwAFIHA.3916@xxxxxx

> TPM 1.2 chip is supported under Windows Vista Business, Enterprise and
> Ultimate.
> http://www.pctipsbox.com/use-bitlock...hout-tpm-chip/
>
> Which Tablet PC is this by the way? I am very interested in getting one.
>
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23ZxOuKAFIHA.284@xxxxxx

>> well, in business and home premium i cannot use the TPM security chip
>> that is installed in my PC. and i have no idea if ultimate edition
>> supports virtualization technologies. i think it might though. i think it
>> should though since that feature was found in the BIOS of my PC. having
>> it enabled makes my PC run faster if enterprise is only availible in
>> volume licensing than i think i might go with ultimate edition because of
>> the TPM security chip. i also want the ultimate extras i guess...
>>
>> when is vists service pack 1 supposed to come out?
>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e0EFZr$EIHA.4228@xxxxxx

>>> Windows Vista Enterprise is only available to Volume License customers
>>> with Enterprise Agreement and Software Assurance.
>>>
>>> If you need Tablet PC functionality, Windows Vista Business or Ultimate
>>> will do just fine, even the Home Premium edition includes Tablet
>>> functionality. I assume you might connect to a corporate network, thats
>>> why I recommended Vista Business since XP Tablet PC edition is a subset
>>> of XP Professional.
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:%23tmVwm$EIHA.3360@xxxxxx
>>>> my current laptop has windows XP tablet PC edition on it. i got it with
>>>> XP on it since i want to wait a while to upgrade to vista, either that
>>>> or i want to do a dual boot between XP and vista. either way, when i
>>>> purchased my notebook, there was an option to buy it with vista
>>>> enterprise edition, and i was wondering if anyone knows where i can
>>>> purchase that version of vista, instead of getting ultimate or business
>>>> edition.
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>

Without the TPM chip, Bitlocker can store the encryption key on
a removable USB flash drive. Or, you can enter a very long password
every time you boot up.

Yes, Bitlocker is only included in the Ultimate and Enterprise versions.
I think that's sort of silly, considering most businesses will be using the
Business version, and they are the ones most likely who would want to
use Bitlocker. Oh well.


-Michael

* Steven Wabik:

> its interesting about how u can use the bitlocker security without the
> security chip. by the way business edition does not have full support for
> the TPM security chip.
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23hQoVwAFIHA.3916@xxxxxx

>> TPM 1.2 chip is supported under Windows Vista Business, Enterprise and
>> Ultimate.
>> http://www.pctipsbox.com/use-bitlock...hout-tpm-chip/
>>
>> Which Tablet PC is this by the way? I am very interested in getting one.
>>
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23ZxOuKAFIHA.284@xxxxxx

>>> well, in business and home premium i cannot use the TPM security chip
>>> that is installed in my PC. and i have no idea if ultimate edition
>>> supports virtualization technologies. i think it might though. i think it
>>> should though since that feature was found in the BIOS of my PC. having
>>> it enabled makes my PC run faster if enterprise is only availible in
>>> volume licensing than i think i might go with ultimate edition because of
>>> the TPM security chip. i also want the ultimate extras i guess...
>>>
>>> when is vists service pack 1 supposed to come out?
>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:e0EFZr$EIHA.4228@xxxxxx
>>>> Windows Vista Enterprise is only available to Volume License customers
>>>> with Enterprise Agreement and Software Assurance.
>>>>
>>>> If you need Tablet PC functionality, Windows Vista Business or Ultimate
>>>> will do just fine, even the Home Premium edition includes Tablet
>>>> functionality. I assume you might connect to a corporate network, thats
>>>> why I recommended Vista Business since XP Tablet PC edition is a subset
>>>> of XP Professional.
>>>> --
>>>> Andre
>>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23tmVwm$EIHA.3360@xxxxxx
>>>>> my current laptop has windows XP tablet PC edition on it. i got it with
>>>>> XP on it since i want to wait a while to upgrade to vista, either that
>>>>> or i want to do a dual boot between XP and vista. either way, when i
>>>>> purchased my notebook, there was an option to buy it with vista
>>>>> enterprise edition, and i was wondering if anyone knows where i can
>>>>> purchase that version of vista, instead of getting ultimate or business
>>>>> edition.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
>

yea, and i think it is a good feature. but for nor XP is more stable.
vista's extra security features are not worth the trouble of the reliability
issues and stuff.

i beta tested vista and i thought the beta was more reliable than the final
release in many ways for some odd reason. i had a tx1000z with vista
ultimate on it for about a week, but i returned it since vista had so many
issues on it. i beta tested vista on a zd8000.

in my opinion, vista only does good for certian types of computers, like
media center computers that have very good video cards and stuff.

i beta tested vista on a 7 year old laptop and it worked just fine, except
for windows areo missing....of caurse then that pc had a sucky graphics
card, but had a dual hard drive configuration and an external DVD drive when
running vista. i added a 2nd hard drive to the PC so that i could beta test
vista on it. the main hard drive was only 20GB and i wanted to keep windows
XP pro on the computer and plus i knew that i could run the DVD drive
externally.
"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OH$DxEBFIHA.5228@xxxxxx

> Without the TPM chip, Bitlocker can store the encryption key on
> a removable USB flash drive. Or, you can enter a very long password
> every time you boot up.
>
> Yes, Bitlocker is only included in the Ultimate and Enterprise versions.
> I think that's sort of silly, considering most businesses will be using
> the
> Business version, and they are the ones most likely who would want to
> use Bitlocker. Oh well.
>
>
> -Michael
>
> * Steven Wabik:

>> its interesting about how u can use the bitlocker security without the
>> security chip. by the way business edition does not have full support for
>> the TPM security chip.
>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23hQoVwAFIHA.3916@xxxxxx

>>> TPM 1.2 chip is supported under Windows Vista Business, Enterprise and
>>> Ultimate.
>>> http://www.pctipsbox.com/use-bitlock...hout-tpm-chip/
>>>
>>> Which Tablet PC is this by the way? I am very interested in getting one.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:%23ZxOuKAFIHA.284@xxxxxx
>>>> well, in business and home premium i cannot use the TPM security chip
>>>> that is installed in my PC. and i have no idea if ultimate edition
>>>> supports virtualization technologies. i think it might though. i think
>>>> it
>>>> should though since that feature was found in the BIOS of my PC. having
>>>> it enabled makes my PC run faster if enterprise is only availible in
>>>> volume licensing than i think i might go with ultimate edition because
>>>> of
>>>> the TPM security chip. i also want the ultimate extras i guess...
>>>>
>>>> when is vists service pack 1 supposed to come out?
>>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:e0EFZr$EIHA.4228@xxxxxx
>>>>> Windows Vista Enterprise is only available to Volume License customers
>>>>> with Enterprise Agreement and Software Assurance.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you need Tablet PC functionality, Windows Vista Business or
>>>>> Ultimate
>>>>> will do just fine, even the Home Premium edition includes Tablet
>>>>> functionality. I assume you might connect to a corporate network,
>>>>> thats
>>>>> why I recommended Vista Business since XP Tablet PC edition is a
>>>>> subset
>>>>> of XP Professional.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andre
>>>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23tmVwm$EIHA.3360@xxxxxx
>>>>>> my current laptop has windows XP tablet PC edition on it. i got it
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> XP on it since i want to wait a while to upgrade to vista, either
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> or i want to do a dual boot between XP and vista. either way, when i
>>>>>> purchased my notebook, there was an option to buy it with vista
>>>>>> enterprise edition, and i was wondering if anyone knows where i can
>>>>>> purchase that version of vista, instead of getting ultimate or
>>>>>> business
>>>>>> edition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

I haven't used BitLocker since the Vista betas. Then, I was using
BitLocker to protect Vista's restore points from XP's volsnap.sys.
In dual-booting Vista and XP, XP would wipe out Vista's restore
points. Since I made the final transition to Vista on three of my
machines, I no longer use BitLocker. I do have one laptop that
still has WinXP Pro. It's my true "mobile" laptop and the one that
I will probably use BitLocker on *if* I convert it to Vista.

I know that I can be a bit harsh on Microsoft and Vista, at times-
but, for the most part, my Vista machines work fine. I admit that
I've been messing around with Vista for about a year and half, and
have an advantage those just encountering Vista do not.
However, none of my Vista machines are brand new. They all had
XP Pro on them prior to converting them to Vista. Two desktops
and a two year old Gateway laptop.
My newish computer is my mobile laptop with XP Pro.


Take care,

Michael

* Steven Wabik:

> yea, and i think it is a good feature. but for nor XP is more stable.
> vista's extra security features are not worth the trouble of the reliability
> issues and stuff.
>
> i beta tested vista and i thought the beta was more reliable than the final
> release in many ways for some odd reason. i had a tx1000z with vista
> ultimate on it for about a week, but i returned it since vista had so many
> issues on it. i beta tested vista on a zd8000.
>
> in my opinion, vista only does good for certian types of computers, like
> media center computers that have very good video cards and stuff.
>
> i beta tested vista on a 7 year old laptop and it worked just fine, except
> for windows areo missing....of caurse then that pc had a sucky graphics
> card, but had a dual hard drive configuration and an external DVD drive when
> running vista. i added a 2nd hard drive to the PC so that i could beta test
> vista on it. the main hard drive was only 20GB and i wanted to keep windows
> XP pro on the computer and plus i knew that i could run the DVD drive
> externally.
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr2@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OH$DxEBFIHA.5228@xxxxxx

>> Without the TPM chip, Bitlocker can store the encryption key on
>> a removable USB flash drive. Or, you can enter a very long password
>> every time you boot up.
>>
>> Yes, Bitlocker is only included in the Ultimate and Enterprise versions.
>> I think that's sort of silly, considering most businesses will be using
>> the
>> Business version, and they are the ones most likely who would want to
>> use Bitlocker. Oh well.
>>
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>> * Steven Wabik:

>>> its interesting about how u can use the bitlocker security without the
>>> security chip. by the way business edition does not have full support for
>>> the TPM security chip.
>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:%23hQoVwAFIHA.3916@xxxxxx
>>>> TPM 1.2 chip is supported under Windows Vista Business, Enterprise and
>>>> Ultimate.
>>>> http://www.pctipsbox.com/use-bitlock...hout-tpm-chip/
>>>>
>>>> Which Tablet PC is this by the way? I am very interested in getting one.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Andre
>>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23ZxOuKAFIHA.284@xxxxxx
>>>>> well, in business and home premium i cannot use the TPM security chip
>>>>> that is installed in my PC. and i have no idea if ultimate edition
>>>>> supports virtualization technologies. i think it might though. i think
>>>>> it
>>>>> should though since that feature was found in the BIOS of my PC. having
>>>>> it enabled makes my PC run faster if enterprise is only availible in
>>>>> volume licensing than i think i might go with ultimate edition because
>>>>> of
>>>>> the TPM security chip. i also want the ultimate extras i guess...
>>>>>
>>>>> when is vists service pack 1 supposed to come out?
>>>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e0EFZr$EIHA.4228@xxxxxx
>>>>>> Windows Vista Enterprise is only available to Volume License customers
>>>>>> with Enterprise Agreement and Software Assurance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you need Tablet PC functionality, Windows Vista Business or
>>>>>> Ultimate
>>>>>> will do just fine, even the Home Premium edition includes Tablet
>>>>>> functionality. I assume you might connect to a corporate network,
>>>>>> thats
>>>>>> why I recommended Vista Business since XP Tablet PC edition is a
>>>>>> subset
>>>>>> of XP Professional.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andre
>>>>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>>>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>>>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>>>>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23tmVwm$EIHA.3360@xxxxxx
>>>>>>> my current laptop has windows XP tablet PC edition on it. i got it
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> XP on it since i want to wait a while to upgrade to vista, either
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> or i want to do a dual boot between XP and vista. either way, when i
>>>>>>> purchased my notebook, there was an option to buy it with vista
>>>>>>> enterprise edition, and i was wondering if anyone knows where i can
>>>>>>> purchase that version of vista, instead of getting ultimate or
>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>> edition.
>>>>>>>
>>>

>
>