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Old 10-29-2007   #11 (permalink)
ThePro


 
 

Re: installing exchange server 2003 on Vista

Wrong again.

There is no such thing as Master or Child DC in AD, there are DCs and member
servers. Exchange should be installed on a member server, not a DC.

SBS in NOT Exchange server, so your argument does not apply.

ThePro

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>A member Server within the Active Directory, there are dependencies, you
>will have the Master DC, Child DC - which Exchange would be installed on.
>Also that quote is a recommendation, not a requirement, look at Windows
>Small Business Server, it installs all mission critical applications on the
>same Server running as a DC, ISA, Exchange, SQL, and AD.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:14603083-BC1D-4B27-8FCC-B64662A3F56F@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>>> My knowledge is Exchange Server requires Active Directory, AD requires
>>> the server be promoted as a DC.
>>
>> Then your knowledge is wrong. See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875427/
>> .
>>
>> Quote from this article "For performance and for scalability, we
>> recommend that you install Exchange 2000 Server or Exchange Server 2003
>> on a member server instead of on a domain controller."
>>
>> ThePro
>
>

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Old 10-29-2007   #12 (permalink)
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]


 
 

Re: installing exchange server 2003 on Vista

SBS includes Exchange Server.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
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"ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Wrong again.
>
> There is no such thing as Master or Child DC in AD, there are DCs and
> member servers. Exchange should be installed on a member server, not a DC.
>
> SBS in NOT Exchange server, so your argument does not apply.
>
> ThePro
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>>A member Server within the Active Directory, there are dependencies, you
>>will have the Master DC, Child DC - which Exchange would be installed on.
>>Also that quote is a recommendation, not a requirement, look at Windows
>>Small Business Server, it installs all mission critical applications on
>>the same Server running as a DC, ISA, Exchange, SQL, and AD.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:14603083-BC1D-4B27-8FCC-B64662A3F56F@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> My knowledge is Exchange Server requires Active Directory, AD requires
>>>> the server be promoted as a DC.
>>>
>>> Then your knowledge is wrong. See
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875427/ .
>>>
>>> Quote from this article "For performance and for scalability, we
>>> recommend that you install Exchange 2000 Server or Exchange Server 2003
>>> on a member server instead of on a domain controller."
>>>
>>> ThePro
>>
>>
>

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Old 10-29-2007   #13 (permalink)
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]


 
 

Re: installing exchange server 2003 on Vista

An Exchange Administrator just confirmed my answers:

Exchange Server can be installed on either a DC or Member Server
Exchange Server has required Active Directory since Exchange version 5.5
Cannot be installed in workgroup mode.
--
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Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
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"Ric" <fraybentos@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Is this possible? I can't get it to install, but after searching Microsoft
> website I can't find anything to confirm that it won't work.

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Old 10-29-2007   #14 (permalink)
ThePro


 
 

Re: installing exchange server 2003 on Vista

This is a common misconception. Exchanger Server and SBS are different
beasts.

ThePro

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> SBS includes Exchange Server.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OyYpY%23jGIHA.5752@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Wrong again.
>>
>> There is no such thing as Master or Child DC in AD, there are DCs and
>> member servers. Exchange should be installed on a member server, not a
>> DC.
>>
>> SBS in NOT Exchange server, so your argument does not apply.
>>
>> ThePro
>>
>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>>>A member Server within the Active Directory, there are dependencies, you
>>>will have the Master DC, Child DC - which Exchange would be installed on.
>>>Also that quote is a recommendation, not a requirement, look at Windows
>>>Small Business Server, it installs all mission critical applications on
>>>the same Server running as a DC, ISA, Exchange, SQL, and AD.
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:14603083-BC1D-4B27-8FCC-B64662A3F56F@xxxxxx
>>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> My knowledge is Exchange Server requires Active Directory, AD requires
>>>>> the server be promoted as a DC.
>>>>
>>>> Then your knowledge is wrong. See
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875427/ .
>>>>
>>>> Quote from this article "For performance and for scalability, we
>>>> recommend that you install Exchange 2000 Server or Exchange Server 2003
>>>> on a member server instead of on a domain controller."
>>>>
>>>> ThePro
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Old 10-29-2007   #15 (permalink)
Kerry Brown


 
 

Re: installing exchange server 2003 on Vista

"ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:47BEABBC-D155-455F-9C93-7EB5C33DE92A@xxxxxx
Quote:

> This is a common misconception. Exchanger Server and SBS are different
> beasts.

They are different but an SBS server is also an Exchange server as Exchange
server is included with SBS.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


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Old 10-29-2007   #16 (permalink)
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]


 
 

Re: installing exchange server 2003 on Vista

I didn't say anything regarding their relation. I just said there are
dependencies. Exchange Server requires Windows Servers Active Directory to
provides core functionality. If you run a server at a Company where people
have to log onto a Domain, the users are created, stored and managed in AD.
So, Exchange Server utilizes that to create the mail stores for the users
within it. You have gone from Exchange on Vista to so many different topics.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:47BEABBC-D155-455F-9C93-7EB5C33DE92A@xxxxxx
Quote:

> This is a common misconception. Exchanger Server and SBS are different
> beasts.
>
> ThePro
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>> SBS includes Exchange Server.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OyYpY%23jGIHA.5752@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Wrong again.
>>>
>>> There is no such thing as Master or Child DC in AD, there are DCs and
>>> member servers. Exchange should be installed on a member server, not a
>>> DC.
>>>
>>> SBS in NOT Exchange server, so your argument does not apply.
>>>
>>> ThePro
>>>
>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>A member Server within the Active Directory, there are dependencies, you
>>>>will have the Master DC, Child DC - which Exchange would be installed
>>>>on. Also that quote is a recommendation, not a requirement, look at
>>>>Windows Small Business Server, it installs all mission critical
>>>>applications on the same Server running as a DC, ISA, Exchange, SQL, and
>>>>AD.
>>>> --
>>>> Andre
>>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:14603083-BC1D-4B27-8FCC-B64662A3F56F@xxxxxx
>>>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> My knowledge is Exchange Server requires Active Directory, AD
>>>>>> requires the server be promoted as a DC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then your knowledge is wrong. See
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875427/ .
>>>>>
>>>>> Quote from this article "For performance and for scalability, we
>>>>> recommend that you install Exchange 2000 Server or Exchange Server
>>>>> 2003 on a member server instead of on a domain controller."
>>>>>
>>>>> ThePro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Old 10-29-2007   #17 (permalink)
ThePro


 
 

Re: installing exchange server 2003 on Vista

I just wanted to correct your remark that *seems* to be that Exchange Server
*must* be installed on a DC, which is not the case. If this is not what you
meant, then my apology. But if it is what you meant, you were cleary wrong.
Can you say it when you are ?

ThePro

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I didn't say anything regarding their relation. I just said there are
>dependencies. Exchange Server requires Windows Servers Active Directory to
>provides core functionality. If you run a server at a Company where people
>have to log onto a Domain, the users are created, stored and managed in AD.
>So, Exchange Server utilizes that to create the mail stores for the users
>within it. You have gone from Exchange on Vista to so many different
>topics.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:47BEABBC-D155-455F-9C93-7EB5C33DE92A@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> This is a common misconception. Exchanger Server and SBS are different
>> beasts.
>>
>> ThePro
>>
>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>>> SBS includes Exchange Server.
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:OyYpY%23jGIHA.5752@xxxxxx
>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>
>>>> There is no such thing as Master or Child DC in AD, there are DCs and
>>>> member servers. Exchange should be installed on a member server, not a
>>>> DC.
>>>>
>>>> SBS in NOT Exchange server, so your argument does not apply.
>>>>
>>>> ThePro
>>>>
>>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>A member Server within the Active Directory, there are dependencies,
>>>>>you will have the Master DC, Child DC - which Exchange would be
>>>>>installed on. Also that quote is a recommendation, not a requirement,
>>>>>look at Windows Small Business Server, it installs all mission critical
>>>>>applications on the same Server running as a DC, ISA, Exchange, SQL,
>>>>>and AD.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andre
>>>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>>>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:14603083-BC1D-4B27-8FCC-B64662A3F56F@xxxxxx
>>>>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> My knowledge is Exchange Server requires Active Directory, AD
>>>>>>> requires the server be promoted as a DC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then your knowledge is wrong. See
>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875427/ .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Quote from this article "For performance and for scalability, we
>>>>>> recommend that you install Exchange 2000 Server or Exchange Server
>>>>>> 2003 on a member server instead of on a domain controller."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ThePro
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Old 10-29-2007   #18 (permalink)
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]


 
 

Re: installing exchange server 2003 on Vista

But the Member Server would be a part of the Master Domain, so it would be
connected to Active Directory which Exchange Server requires to provide its
core functionality.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:CCFCDB00-23F8-418E-9865-155EF9025D7D@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I just wanted to correct your remark that *seems* to be that Exchange
>Server *must* be installed on a DC, which is not the case. If this is not
>what you meant, then my apology. But if it is what you meant, you were
>cleary wrong. Can you say it when you are ?
>
> ThePro
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>>I didn't say anything regarding their relation. I just said there are
>>dependencies. Exchange Server requires Windows Servers Active Directory to
>>provides core functionality. If you run a server at a Company where people
>>have to log onto a Domain, the users are created, stored and managed in
>>AD. So, Exchange Server utilizes that to create the mail stores for the
>>users within it. You have gone from Exchange on Vista to so many different
>>topics.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:47BEABBC-D155-455F-9C93-7EB5C33DE92A@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> This is a common misconception. Exchanger Server and SBS are different
>>> beasts.
>>>
>>> ThePro
>>>
>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> SBS includes Exchange Server.
>>>> --
>>>> Andre
>>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:OyYpY%23jGIHA.5752@xxxxxx
>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no such thing as Master or Child DC in AD, there are DCs and
>>>>> member servers. Exchange should be installed on a member server, not a
>>>>> DC.
>>>>>
>>>>> SBS in NOT Exchange server, so your argument does not apply.
>>>>>
>>>>> ThePro
>>>>>
>>>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>A member Server within the Active Directory, there are dependencies,
>>>>>>you will have the Master DC, Child DC - which Exchange would be
>>>>>>installed on. Also that quote is a recommendation, not a requirement,
>>>>>>look at Windows Small Business Server, it installs all mission
>>>>>>critical applications on the same Server running as a DC, ISA,
>>>>>>Exchange, SQL, and AD.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andre
>>>>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>>>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>>>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>>>>> "ThePro" <mcthepro_@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:14603083-BC1D-4B27-8FCC-B64662A3F56F@xxxxxx
>>>>>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>> My knowledge is Exchange Server requires Active Directory, AD
>>>>>>>> requires the server be promoted as a DC.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then your knowledge is wrong. See
>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875427/ .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Quote from this article "For performance and for scalability, we
>>>>>>> recommend that you install Exchange 2000 Server or Exchange Server
>>>>>>> 2003 on a member server instead of on a domain controller."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ThePro
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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