Installed Vista updates last night (see msg Boy oh boy) including one for IE
7. Can no longer drag and drop from address bar or from tab to links.
Cool.

Decided, enough of this POS. Went to get firefox. Clicked the button
"Download Firefox". File download box pops up. Click "save." The stupid
little circle buzzes around once, then nothing. Tried again. Same result.

Had to close and reopen IE7 to make it work. Very Cool.

Went to delete hiberfil.sys, wasting two gigs on the system drive. Won't do
it. Try to remove attributes. Won't do it. Ran command prompt as admin,
tried to remove attributes. Won't do it. Super cool.

So, questions: file attribute 'N' shows in Explorer. Attribute 'I' shows in
the cmd window. What are they? Searched, but couldn't find answers. And
how do I clear files of attributes I don't want?

And how do you get rid of the (for me) useless hiberfil.sys? Without having
to boot one of the other OSs on the system?

Thanks!

Should have posted from this. But I should have mentioned, the security tab
was not accessible, so I couldn't take ownership of the file.


"dubya" <dubya54@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uF6akvxIIHA.1184@xxxxxx

> Installed Vista updates last night (see msg Boy oh boy) including one for
> IE 7. Can no longer drag and drop from address bar or from tab to links.
> Cool.
>
> Decided, enough of this POS. Went to get firefox. Clicked the button
> "Download Firefox". File download box pops up. Click "save." The stupid
> little circle buzzes around once, then nothing. Tried again. Same
> result.
>
> Had to close and reopen IE7 to make it work. Very Cool.
>
> Went to delete hiberfil.sys, wasting two gigs on the system drive. Won't
> do it. Try to remove attributes. Won't do it. Ran command prompt as
> admin, tried to remove attributes. Won't do it. Super cool.
>
> So, questions: file attribute 'N' shows in Explorer. Attribute 'I' shows
> in the cmd window. What are they? Searched, but couldn't find answers.
> And how do I clear files of attributes I don't want?
>
> And how do you get rid of the (for me) useless hiberfil.sys? Without
> having to boot one of the other OSs on the system?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>

Delete hyberfil.sys by performing a disc cleanup.
Right click on disc in question (C
Properties
General tab, disk cleanup
Files from all users on my computer
Acknowledge UAC prompt
make sure Hibernation file cleaner is selected, select others as you want.
select OK

hope you don't have a power failure while your computer is sleeping.

Michael


"dubya" <goofy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e7EvF4xIIHA.5860@xxxxxx

> Should have posted from this. But I should have mentioned, the security
> tab was not accessible, so I couldn't take ownership of the file.
>
>
> "dubya" <dubya54@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uF6akvxIIHA.1184@xxxxxx

>> Installed Vista updates last night (see msg Boy oh boy) including one for
>> IE 7. Can no longer drag and drop from address bar or from tab to links.
>> Cool.
>>
>> Decided, enough of this POS. Went to get firefox. Clicked the button
>> "Download Firefox". File download box pops up. Click "save." The
>> stupid little circle buzzes around once, then nothing. Tried again.
>> Same result.
>>
>> Had to close and reopen IE7 to make it work. Very Cool.
>>
>> Went to delete hiberfil.sys, wasting two gigs on the system drive. Won't
>> do it. Try to remove attributes. Won't do it. Ran command prompt as
>> admin, tried to remove attributes. Won't do it. Super cool.
>>
>> So, questions: file attribute 'N' shows in Explorer. Attribute 'I' shows
>> in the cmd window. What are they? Searched, but couldn't find answers.
>> And how do I clear files of attributes I don't want?
>>
>> And how do you get rid of the (for me) useless hiberfil.sys? Without
>> having to boot one of the other OSs on the system?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>

>

Thank you!

I can't believe that you can do it here, but not from Explorer or the
Command prompt. btw, the computer sleeps but doesn't hybrid sleep, which is
what the vista design team decided to call hibernate. MS, said Mr. Gates,
hires the smartest people in the world.

now I have to check the flush cache to disk settings.....

"Michael Walraven" <mexxwalraven@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23iYkT7yIIHA.2100@xxxxxx

> Delete hyberfil.sys by performing a disc cleanup.
> Right click on disc in question (C
> Properties
> General tab, disk cleanup
> Files from all users on my computer
> Acknowledge UAC prompt
> make sure Hibernation file cleaner is selected, select others as you want.
> select OK
>
> hope you don't have a power failure while your computer is sleeping.
>
> Michael
>
>
> "dubya" <goofy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e7EvF4xIIHA.5860@xxxxxx

>> Should have posted from this. But I should have mentioned, the security
>> tab was not accessible, so I couldn't take ownership of the file.
>>
>>
>> "dubya" <dubya54@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:uF6akvxIIHA.1184@xxxxxx

>>> Installed Vista updates last night (see msg Boy oh boy) including one
>>> for IE 7. Can no longer drag and drop from address bar or from tab to
>>> links. Cool.
>>>
>>> Decided, enough of this POS. Went to get firefox. Clicked the button
>>> "Download Firefox". File download box pops up. Click "save." The
>>> stupid little circle buzzes around once, then nothing. Tried again.
>>> Same result.
>>>
>>> Had to close and reopen IE7 to make it work. Very Cool.
>>>
>>> Went to delete hiberfil.sys, wasting two gigs on the system drive.
>>> Won't do it. Try to remove attributes. Won't do it. Ran command
>>> prompt as admin, tried to remove attributes. Won't do it. Super cool.
>>>
>>> So, questions: file attribute 'N' shows in Explorer. Attribute 'I'
>>> shows in the cmd window. What are they? Searched, but couldn't find
>>> answers. And how do I clear files of attributes I don't want?
>>>
>>> And how do you get rid of the (for me) useless hiberfil.sys? Without
>>> having to boot one of the other OSs on the system?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

"dubya" <dubya54@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uFDSEZzIIHA.4592@xxxxxx

> Thank you!
>
> I can't believe that you can do it here, but not from Explorer or the
> Command prompt. btw, the computer sleeps but doesn't hybrid sleep, which
> is what the vista design team decided to call hibernate. MS, said Mr.
> Gates, hires the smartest people in the world.
>
> now I have to check the flush cache to disk settings.....
>
> "Michael Walraven" <mexxwalraven@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23iYkT7yIIHA.2100@xxxxxx

>> Delete hyberfil.sys by performing a disc cleanup.
>> Right click on disc in question (C
>> Properties
>> General tab, disk cleanup
>> Files from all users on my computer
>> Acknowledge UAC prompt
>> make sure Hibernation file cleaner is selected, select others as you
>> want.
>> select OK
>>
>> hope you don't have a power failure while your computer is sleeping.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> "dubya" <goofy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e7EvF4xIIHA.5860@xxxxxx

>>> Should have posted from this. But I should have mentioned, the security
>>> tab was not accessible, so I couldn't take ownership of the file.
>>>
>>>
>>> "dubya" <dubya54@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:uF6akvxIIHA.1184@xxxxxx
>>>> Installed Vista updates last night (see msg Boy oh boy) including one
>>>> for IE 7. Can no longer drag and drop from address bar or from tab to
>>>> links. Cool.
>>>>
>>>> Decided, enough of this POS. Went to get firefox. Clicked the button
>>>> "Download Firefox". File download box pops up. Click "save." The
>>>> stupid little circle buzzes around once, then nothing. Tried again.
>>>> Same result.
>>>>
>>>> Had to close and reopen IE7 to make it work. Very Cool.
>>>>
>>>> Went to delete hiberfil.sys, wasting two gigs on the system drive.
>>>> Won't do it. Try to remove attributes. Won't do it. Ran command
>>>> prompt as admin, tried to remove attributes. Won't do it. Super cool.
>>>>
>>>> So, questions: file attribute 'N' shows in Explorer. Attribute 'I'
>>>> shows in the cmd window. What are they? Searched, but couldn't find
>>>> answers. And how do I clear files of attributes I don't want?
>>>>
>>>> And how do you get rid of the (for me) useless hiberfil.sys? Without
>>>> having to boot one of the other OSs on the system?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>
>

You can't do it from Explorer or a command prompt because it's a protected
system file. By doing it from disk-cleanup you are also turning off the
"sleep" and hibernate functions.

Oh, and "sleep" is not hibernate, it is not 'just' what they decided to call
hibernate, it is a hybrid of S3 standby and hibernate. It saves the memory
contents to the hard drive and then initiates the S3 power saving state. In
this way, if power goes out, the system will resume using the hyberfile.sys
as if it had gone into hibernate, thus recovering from what could be lost
data due to the power outage during S3 "sleep".

During normal resume, it will simply return from S3 (much faster than
resuming from hibernate), and Windows will simply ignore the hyberfile.sys
data since it's not needed.

Mic

"Michael Palumbo" <micjustmic@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OhUswl1IIHA.4592@xxxxxx

>
>
> "dubya" <dubya54@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uFDSEZzIIHA.4592@xxxxxx

>> Thank you!
>>
>> I can't believe that you can do it here, but not from Explorer or the
>> Command prompt. btw, the computer sleeps but doesn't hybrid sleep, which
>> is what the vista design team decided to call hibernate. MS, said Mr.
>> Gates, hires the smartest people in the world.
>>
>> now I have to check the flush cache to disk settings.....
>>
>> "Michael Walraven" <mexxwalraven@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23iYkT7yIIHA.2100@xxxxxx

>>> Delete hyberfil.sys by performing a disc cleanup.
>>> Right click on disc in question (C
>>> Properties
>>> General tab, disk cleanup
>>> Files from all users on my computer
>>> Acknowledge UAC prompt
>>> make sure Hibernation file cleaner is selected, select others as you
>>> want.
>>> select OK
>>>
>>> hope you don't have a power failure while your computer is sleeping.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> "dubya" <goofy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:e7EvF4xIIHA.5860@xxxxxx
>>>> Should have posted from this. But I should have mentioned, the
>>>> security tab was not accessible, so I couldn't take ownership of the
>>>> file.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dubya" <dubya54@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:uF6akvxIIHA.1184@xxxxxx
>>>>> Installed Vista updates last night (see msg Boy oh boy) including one
>>>>> for IE 7. Can no longer drag and drop from address bar or from tab to
>>>>> links. Cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> Decided, enough of this POS. Went to get firefox. Clicked the button
>>>>> "Download Firefox". File download box pops up. Click "save." The
>>>>> stupid little circle buzzes around once, then nothing. Tried again.
>>>>> Same result.
>>>>>
>>>>> Had to close and reopen IE7 to make it work. Very Cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> Went to delete hiberfil.sys, wasting two gigs on the system drive.
>>>>> Won't do it. Try to remove attributes. Won't do it. Ran command
>>>>> prompt as admin, tried to remove attributes. Won't do it. Super
>>>>> cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, questions: file attribute 'N' shows in Explorer. Attribute 'I'
>>>>> shows in the cmd window. What are they? Searched, but couldn't find
>>>>> answers. And how do I clear files of attributes I don't want?
>>>>>
>>>>> And how do you get rid of the (for me) useless hiberfil.sys? Without
>>>>> having to boot one of the other OSs on the system?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>

>>
>>

>
> You can't do it from Explorer or a command prompt because it's a protected
> system file. By doing it from disk-cleanup you are also turning off the
> "sleep" and hibernate functions.
>
> Oh, and "sleep" is not hibernate, it is not 'just' what they decided to
> call hibernate, it is a hybrid of S3 standby and hibernate. It saves the
> memory contents to the hard drive and then initiates the S3 power saving
> state. In this way, if power goes out, the system will resume using the
> hyberfile.sys as if it had gone into hibernate, thus recovering from what
> could be lost data due to the power outage during S3 "sleep".
>
> During normal resume, it will simply return from S3 (much faster than
> resuming from hibernate), and Windows will simply ignore the hyberfile.sys
> data since it's not needed.
>
> Mic

Thanks.

Oh, and I didn't say that "sleep" was hibernate. "Sleep" does not use the
hard drive. "Hybrid Sleep" uses the hard drive. "Hybrid sleep" is what they
decided to call hibernate. Please read -and perhaps consult Help- before
elaborating upon that which was not written.

"dubya" <dubya54@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#RFDQV7IIHA.4196@xxxxxx

>
> "Michael Palumbo" <micjustmic@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OhUswl1IIHA.4592@xxxxxx

>>
>>
>> "dubya" <dubya54@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:uFDSEZzIIHA.4592@xxxxxx

>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> I can't believe that you can do it here, but not from Explorer or the
>>> Command prompt. btw, the computer sleeps but doesn't hybrid sleep,
>>> which is what the vista design team decided to call hibernate. MS, said
>>> Mr. Gates, hires the smartest people in the world.
>>>
>>> now I have to check the flush cache to disk settings.....
>>>
>>> "Michael Walraven" <mexxwalraven@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:%23iYkT7yIIHA.2100@xxxxxx
>>>> Delete hyberfil.sys by performing a disc cleanup.
>>>> Right click on disc in question (C
>>>> Properties
>>>> General tab, disk cleanup
>>>> Files from all users on my computer
>>>> Acknowledge UAC prompt
>>>> make sure Hibernation file cleaner is selected, select others as you
>>>> want.
>>>> select OK
>>>>
>>>> hope you don't have a power failure while your computer is sleeping.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "dubya" <goofy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:e7EvF4xIIHA.5860@xxxxxx
>>>>> Should have posted from this. But I should have mentioned, the
>>>>> security tab was not accessible, so I couldn't take ownership of the
>>>>> file.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "dubya" <dubya54@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uF6akvxIIHA.1184@xxxxxx
>>>>>> Installed Vista updates last night (see msg Boy oh boy) including one
>>>>>> for IE 7. Can no longer drag and drop from address bar or from tab
>>>>>> to links. Cool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Decided, enough of this POS. Went to get firefox. Clicked the
>>>>>> button "Download Firefox". File download box pops up. Click "save."
>>>>>> The stupid little circle buzzes around once, then nothing. Tried
>>>>>> again. Same result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Had to close and reopen IE7 to make it work. Very Cool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Went to delete hiberfil.sys, wasting two gigs on the system drive.
>>>>>> Won't do it. Try to remove attributes. Won't do it. Ran command
>>>>>> prompt as admin, tried to remove attributes. Won't do it. Super
>>>>>> cool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, questions: file attribute 'N' shows in Explorer. Attribute 'I'
>>>>>> shows in the cmd window. What are they? Searched, but couldn't find
>>>>>> answers. And how do I clear files of attributes I don't want?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And how do you get rid of the (for me) useless hiberfil.sys? Without
>>>>>> having to boot one of the other OSs on the system?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>> You can't do it from Explorer or a command prompt because it's a
>> protected system file. By doing it from disk-cleanup you are also
>> turning off the "sleep" and hibernate functions.
>>
>> Oh, and "sleep" is not hibernate, it is not 'just' what they decided to
>> call hibernate, it is a hybrid of S3 standby and hibernate. It saves the
>> memory contents to the hard drive and then initiates the S3 power saving
>> state. In this way, if power goes out, the system will resume using the
>> hyberfile.sys as if it had gone into hibernate, thus recovering from what
>> could be lost data due to the power outage during S3 "sleep".
>>
>> During normal resume, it will simply return from S3 (much faster than
>> resuming from hibernate), and Windows will simply ignore the
>> hyberfile.sys data since it's not needed.
>>
>> Mic

> Thanks.
>
> Oh, and I didn't say that "sleep" was hibernate. "Sleep" does not use the
> hard drive. "Hybrid Sleep" uses the hard drive. "Hybrid sleep" is what
> they decided to call hibernate. Please read -and perhaps consult Help-
> before elaborating upon that which was not written.
>

Sorry, I miss-typed, I did mean to say, "Hybrid sleep" is not what they
decided to call hibernate.

Hibernate is still called "hibernate".

I simply wanted to point out that "Hybrid sleep" is not hibernate, and
doesn't act like hibernate except in the case of a power failure (during
resume).

I did read, and as written, you imply that hybrid sleep is the same as
hibernate, but it's not.

I'll end this by saying perhaps you should consult Help before you make a
statement.

Taken directly from Help . . .

"What happened to standby and hibernate?

In earlier versions of Windows, standby saves your work to memory and puts
your mobile PC into a power-saving state. Hibernate also puts your mobile PC
into a power-saving state but saves your work to your hard disk so that you
can safely turn off your mobile PC.

In this version of Windows, sleep saves your work to memory and puts your
mobile PC into a power-saving state. Optionally, you can turn on hybrid
sleep, a combination of sleep and hibernate, which saves your work to your
hard disk and puts your mobile PC into a power-saving state. Hybrid sleep is
turned off by default on mobile PCs. For more information, see "What is
hybrid sleep?" in Turn off a computer: frequently asked questions.

Notes
Hibernate is still available as an advanced power setting. For more
information, see Change power management settings.

Hibernate and hybrid sleep may become unavailable after you use Disk
Cleanup. For more information, see Windows Help online.

Putting your mobile PC to sleep offers the following advantages over
shutting it down:

All of your work, including information about the programs that you were
using, such as window location and size, is automatically saved to your hard
disk.

When your mobile PC wakes, Windows restores your previous work session
within seconds. You don't need to restart your mobile PC, and then open the
files that you were working on.

Sleep is typically the best power-saving state to leave your mobile PC in
when you're not using it. Shut down your mobile PC or put it into
hibernation only when you must turn off the power (for example, when you
want to add memory or you don't plan to use the computer for several days).

To put your mobile PC to sleep, click the Power button on the Start menu. To
wake your mobile PC, press the hardware power button."

---

"Hybrid sleep is a low-power sleep state that can help protect your open
programs and documents while your computer sleeps.

If hybrid sleep is turned on when you put your computer to sleep, Windows
saves your open documents and programs to memory and to your hard disk.

Note
The Sleep option on the Lock button menu represents both hybrid sleep and
standard sleep. When hybrid sleep is turned on, clicking Sleep automatically
puts your computer into hybrid sleep. When hybrid sleep is turned off, or if
your computer doesn't support hybrid sleep, clicking Sleep puts the computer
to sleep.

You can still quickly resume working when your computer wakes from hybrid
sleep. If a power failure occurs while your computer is asleep, Windows can
restore the programs and documents that are saved to your hard disk."


Mic

The 'N'/'I' attribute means "Do not index"


--
- JB
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

not sure if this wil work in your case. but I would check and see if your
restore point was before you deleted the files if it is, it might help to use
it.

"Michael Walraven" wrote:

> Delete hyberfil.sys by performing a disc cleanup.
> Right click on disc in question (C
> Properties
> General tab, disk cleanup
> Files from all users on my computer
> Acknowledge UAC prompt
> make sure Hibernation file cleaner is selected, select others as you want.
> select OK
>
> hope you don't have a power failure while your computer is sleeping.
>
> Michael
>
>
> "dubya" <goofy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e7EvF4xIIHA.5860@xxxxxx

> > Should have posted from this. But I should have mentioned, the security
> > tab was not accessible, so I couldn't take ownership of the file.
> >
> >
> > "dubya" <dubya54@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:uF6akvxIIHA.1184@xxxxxx

> >> Installed Vista updates last night (see msg Boy oh boy) including one for
> >> IE 7. Can no longer drag and drop from address bar or from tab to links.
> >> Cool.
> >>
> >> Decided, enough of this POS. Went to get firefox. Clicked the button
> >> "Download Firefox". File download box pops up. Click "save." The
> >> stupid little circle buzzes around once, then nothing. Tried again.
> >> Same result.
> >>
> >> Had to close and reopen IE7 to make it work. Very Cool.
> >>
> >> Went to delete hiberfil.sys, wasting two gigs on the system drive. Won't
> >> do it. Try to remove attributes. Won't do it. Ran command prompt as
> >> admin, tried to remove attributes. Won't do it. Super cool.
> >>
> >> So, questions: file attribute 'N' shows in Explorer. Attribute 'I' shows
> >> in the cmd window. What are they? Searched, but couldn't find answers.
> >> And how do I clear files of attributes I don't want?
> >>
> >> And how do you get rid of the (for me) useless hiberfil.sys? Without
> >> having to boot one of the other OSs on the system?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

> >

>