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what does "Vista Capable" mean??

  1. #1


    Beck Guest

    what does "Vista Capable" mean??

    When I bought this laptop a few months ago I looked up the graphics
    capabilities on the Intel website.
    This laptop uses Mobile Intel 915/910 GML chipset.
    On the website http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/910gml/index.htm it
    states "Ready for windows Vista", Mobile Intel® 915GM Express Chipset family
    platforms using 512 MB of system memory or greater meet all current
    requirements for the Microsoft Windows Vista* Capable PC program.

    But what does this mean exactly? I made the mistake of assuming it would be
    capable of doing Aero Glass but there are no wddm drivers for it. So maybe
    they mean that it meets the BASIC requirements?



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  3. #2


    John Guest

    Re: what does "Vista Capable" mean??

    Here is what Dell says, "Based on currently available information from
    Microsoft. Requirements subject to change. Microsoft requires that a PC have
    a modern processor and 512MB RAM to be included in the Windows Vista Capable
    PC program. Since the operating system and drivers are not final, Windows
    Vista has not been tested on all user configurations. Please visit
    www.dell.com/vista for more information."

    So it could basically mean you have basic driver support, and minimum
    requirements, at least at the point in time the information was made
    available.

    Also if you look at the Vista website with the multiple versions it appears
    that Aero Glass might not be in the Basic version, but its not clear at this
    point either.
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...s/default.mspx

    "Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
    news:O1aTkRnpGHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    When I bought this laptop a few months ago I looked up the graphics
    capabilities on the Intel website.
    This laptop uses Mobile Intel 915/910 GML chipset.
    On the website http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/910gml/index.htm it
    states "Ready for windows Vista", Mobile Intel® 915GM Express Chipset family
    platforms using 512 MB of system memory or greater meet all current
    requirements for the Microsoft Windows Vista* Capable PC program.

    But what does this mean exactly? I made the mistake of assuming it would be
    capable of doing Aero Glass but there are no wddm drivers for it. So maybe
    they mean that it meets the BASIC requirements?




      My System SpecsSystem Spec

  4. #3


    Mark D. VandenBerg Guest

    Re: what does "Vista Capable" mean??

    <sweeping broad uninformed opinion>

    Vista capable means that the computer is capable of running Vista Home
    Basic. Also, most PC manufacturers put little disclaimers in that basically
    say, "this computer has the ability to operate at a satisfactory level with
    the hardware and software in its original configuration." Meaning that if
    you add an application like iTunes, or additional hardware like a USB drive,
    and it crashes, no soup for you.

    <sweeping broad uninformed opinion>

    --
    Mark

    Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!

    "Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
    news:O1aTkRnpGHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    > When I bought this laptop a few months ago I looked up the graphics
    > capabilities on the Intel website.
    > This laptop uses Mobile Intel 915/910 GML chipset.
    > On the website http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/910gml/index.htm it
    > states "Ready for windows Vista", Mobile Intel® 915GM Express Chipset
    > family platforms using 512 MB of system memory or greater meet all current
    > requirements for the Microsoft Windows Vista* Capable PC program.
    >
    > But what does this mean exactly? I made the mistake of assuming it would
    > be capable of doing Aero Glass but there are no wddm drivers for it. So
    > maybe they mean that it meets the BASIC requirements?
    >



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  5. #4


    Beck Guest

    Re: what does "Vista Capable" mean??


    "John" <does@not.exist> wrote in message
    news:uCx2fcnpGHA.2328@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > Here is what Dell says, "Based on currently available information from
    > Microsoft. Requirements subject to change. Microsoft requires that a PC
    > have
    > a modern processor and 512MB RAM to be included in the Windows Vista
    > Capable
    > PC program. Since the operating system and drivers are not final, Windows
    > Vista has not been tested on all user configurations. Please visit
    > www.dell.com/vista for more information."
    >
    > So it could basically mean you have basic driver support, and minimum
    > requirements, at least at the point in time the information was made
    > available.
    >
    > Also if you look at the Vista website with the multiple versions it
    > appears
    > that Aero Glass might not be in the Basic version, but its not clear at
    > this
    > point either.
    > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvist...s/default.mspx


    Thanks. Looks like it could be the basic minimum requirements then.
    I am not actually bothered about glass, I just want to have first hand
    experience of what it looks like :-)



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  6. #5


    John Jay Smith Guest

    Re: what does "Vista Capable" mean??

    that's the main problem with people who "testing" vista...

    they just poke at it... "Gee wow nice glass effect.. oh and that
    flip 3d weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!"

    to see how crappy it really is you have to put it to the real test
    but installing 150+ applications and 5-10 extra hardware...

    and if it doesn't crawl like a turtle with arthritis it will be a miracle!



    "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:uFO2ptnpGHA.1600@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    > <sweeping broad uninformed opinion>
    >
    > Vista capable means that the computer is capable of running Vista Home
    > Basic. Also, most PC manufacturers put little disclaimers in that
    > basically say, "this computer has the ability to operate at a satisfactory
    > level with the hardware and software in its original configuration."
    > Meaning that if you add an application like iTunes, or additional hardware
    > like a USB drive, and it crashes, no soup for you.
    >
    > <sweeping broad uninformed opinion>
    >
    > --
    > Mark
    >
    > Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
    >
    > "Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
    > news:O1aTkRnpGHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >> When I bought this laptop a few months ago I looked up the graphics
    >> capabilities on the Intel website.
    >> This laptop uses Mobile Intel 915/910 GML chipset.
    >> On the website http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/910gml/index.htm it
    >> states "Ready for windows Vista", Mobile Intel® 915GM Express Chipset
    >> family platforms using 512 MB of system memory or greater meet all
    >> current requirements for the Microsoft Windows Vista* Capable PC program.
    >>
    >> But what does this mean exactly? I made the mistake of assuming it would
    >> be capable of doing Aero Glass but there are no wddm drivers for it. So
    >> maybe they mean that it meets the BASIC requirements?
    >>

    >




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  7. #6


    MICHAEL Guest

    Re: what does "Vista Capable" mean??

    I basically agree, however, I don't think it's "crappy".

    I have noticed some users saying it is faster than XP,
    runs better than XP, gives them less problems than XP.
    I seriously doubt that. More than likely, those users
    have 450+ applications installed, 20 items in the systray,
    a dirty ass registry, leftover dlls that weren't removed after
    an uninstall, and numerous security programs running in XP-
    they haven't done a clean install of XP in years.

    For me, there isn't a comparison- XP is faster, snappier, and
    more stable than Vista. But I didn't expect Vista to blow XP
    away, not at this juncture. However, Vista actually works better
    than I thought it would. And Office 2007 isn't nearly the nightmare
    I had been led to believe. I have had fun using it and it works
    rather well for me.

    -Michael


    "John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message news:OZzYDcopGHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    > that's the main problem with people who "testing" vista...
    >
    > they just poke at it... "Gee wow nice glass effect.. oh and that
    > flip 3d weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!"
    >
    > to see how crappy it really is you have to put it to the real test
    > but installing 150+ applications and 5-10 extra hardware...
    >
    > and if it doesn't crawl like a turtle with arthritis it will be a miracle!
    >
    >
    >
    > "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:uFO2ptnpGHA.1600@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >> <sweeping broad uninformed opinion>
    >>
    >> Vista capable means that the computer is capable of running Vista Home Basic. Also, most PC
    >> manufacturers put little disclaimers in that basically say, "this computer has the ability
    >> to operate at a satisfactory level with the hardware and software in its original
    >> configuration." Meaning that if you add an application like iTunes, or additional hardware
    >> like a USB drive, and it crashes, no soup for you.
    >>
    >> <sweeping broad uninformed opinion>
    >>
    >> --
    >> Mark
    >>
    >> Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
    >>
    >> "Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message news:O1aTkRnpGHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >>> When I bought this laptop a few months ago I looked up the graphics capabilities on the
    >>> Intel website.
    >>> This laptop uses Mobile Intel 915/910 GML chipset.
    >>> On the website http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/910gml/index.htm it states "Ready for
    >>> windows Vista", Mobile Intel® 915GM Express Chipset family platforms using 512 MB of system
    >>> memory or greater meet all current requirements for the Microsoft Windows Vista* Capable PC
    >>> program.
    >>>
    >>> But what does this mean exactly? I made the mistake of assuming it would be capable of
    >>> doing Aero Glass but there are no wddm drivers for it. So maybe they mean that it meets
    >>> the BASIC requirements?
    >>>

    >>

    >
    >




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  8. #7


    Beck Guest

    Re: what does "Vista Capable" mean??


    "John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
    news:OZzYDcopGHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    > that's the main problem with people who "testing" vista...
    >
    > they just poke at it... "Gee wow nice glass effect.. oh and that
    > flip 3d weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!"
    >
    > to see how crappy it really is you have to put it to the real test
    > but installing 150+ applications and 5-10 extra hardware...
    >
    > and if it doesn't crawl like a turtle with arthritis it will be a miracle!


    I think its important to test it with all sorts and number of programs.
    Just because one person may be able to run say Opera for example, doesn't
    mean others will have no problems.
    Someone using 2-3 applications is just as important to the testing procedure
    as someone who wishes to throw 100 programs at it.



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  9. #8


    Travis King Guest

    Re: what does "Vista Capable" mean??

    The thing I don't like about Office 2007 is PowerPoint. It is very slow and
    animations are horribly slow. Maybe its my video drivers. It also wants to
    freeze up a lot. I've got Office XP on my XP partition and PowerPoint is
    great there with no slow-downs with animations whatsoever. This is running
    on my Sempron 64 2800+ @ 1.6GHz, Ati X1600 PRO with 256MB GDDR2 VRAM AGP 8x,
    1.5GB of RAM, and so on. Office 2007 also takes a lot of getting used to
    and some relearning.
    "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
    news:eYG5FsopGHA.756@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    >I basically agree, however, I don't think it's "crappy".
    >
    > I have noticed some users saying it is faster than XP,
    > runs better than XP, gives them less problems than XP.
    > I seriously doubt that. More than likely, those users
    > have 450+ applications installed, 20 items in the systray,
    > a dirty ass registry, leftover dlls that weren't removed after
    > an uninstall, and numerous security programs running in XP-
    > they haven't done a clean install of XP in years.
    >
    > For me, there isn't a comparison- XP is faster, snappier, and
    > more stable than Vista. But I didn't expect Vista to blow XP
    > away, not at this juncture. However, Vista actually works better
    > than I thought it would. And Office 2007 isn't nearly the nightmare
    > I had been led to believe. I have had fun using it and it works
    > rather well for me.
    >
    > -Michael
    >
    >
    > "John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
    > news:OZzYDcopGHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >> that's the main problem with people who "testing" vista...
    >>
    >> they just poke at it... "Gee wow nice glass effect.. oh and that
    >> flip 3d weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!"
    >>
    >> to see how crappy it really is you have to put it to the real test
    >> but installing 150+ applications and 5-10 extra hardware...
    >>
    >> and if it doesn't crawl like a turtle with arthritis it will be a
    >> miracle!
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >> "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:uFO2ptnpGHA.1600@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>> <sweeping broad uninformed opinion>
    >>>
    >>> Vista capable means that the computer is capable of running Vista Home
    >>> Basic. Also, most PC manufacturers put little disclaimers in that
    >>> basically say, "this computer has the ability to operate at a
    >>> satisfactory level with the hardware and software in its original
    >>> configuration." Meaning that if you add an application like iTunes, or
    >>> additional hardware like a USB drive, and it crashes, no soup for you.
    >>>
    >>> <sweeping broad uninformed opinion>
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Mark
    >>>
    >>> Keeping the fun in dysfunctional!
    >>>
    >>> "Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
    >>> news:O1aTkRnpGHA.2148@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >>>> When I bought this laptop a few months ago I looked up the graphics
    >>>> capabilities on the Intel website.
    >>>> This laptop uses Mobile Intel 915/910 GML chipset.
    >>>> On the website http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/910gml/index.htm
    >>>> it states "Ready for windows Vista", Mobile Intel® 915GM Express
    >>>> Chipset family platforms using 512 MB of system memory or greater meet
    >>>> all current requirements for the Microsoft Windows Vista* Capable PC
    >>>> program.
    >>>>
    >>>> But what does this mean exactly? I made the mistake of assuming it
    >>>> would be capable of doing Aero Glass but there are no wddm drivers for
    >>>> it. So maybe they mean that it meets the BASIC requirements?
    >>>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >



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  10. #9


    Colin Barnhorst Guest

    Re: what does "Vista Capable" mean??

    His point was that if Vista and XP are both freshly installed and not yet
    loaded up with progs, XP will run faster. This is true right now because
    the Vista code contains debugging code that slows things down and the Vista
    code is not yet optimized. On hardware from the period when XP rtm'd XP may
    still beat Vista final because XP is optimized for the typical hardware
    profiles of the period. On current new hardware Vista final should run away
    from XP because Vista will be optimized for the new typical hardware
    profiles.

    Note: Few people optimize XP for greater memory when they add it. There is
    a lot that can be done, like increasing various caches. The same with other
    upgrades.



    "Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
    news:OmMHZGppGHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >
    > "John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
    > news:OZzYDcopGHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >> that's the main problem with people who "testing" vista...
    >>
    >> they just poke at it... "Gee wow nice glass effect.. oh and that
    >> flip 3d weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!"
    >>
    >> to see how crappy it really is you have to put it to the real test
    >> but installing 150+ applications and 5-10 extra hardware...
    >>
    >> and if it doesn't crawl like a turtle with arthritis it will be a
    >> miracle!

    >
    > I think its important to test it with all sorts and number of programs.
    > Just because one person may be able to run say Opera for example, doesn't
    > mean others will have no problems.
    > Someone using 2-3 applications is just as important to the testing
    > procedure as someone who wishes to throw 100 programs at it.
    >




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  11. #10


    John Jay Smith Guest

    Re: what does "Vista Capable" mean??

    oh no!!!! not the lame debugging excuse again! ....

    please.. it has been said again and again.

    how much you willing to bet that after they remove the debugging code it
    will be just a sluggish as before?

    the same thing was said for live messenger. Any improvement after it went
    out of beta in performance and memory optimization? NIL!!!


    As for the hardware excuse you are saying that vista will run faster on new
    hardware... wow.. now why didn't I think of that! LOL

    Don't try to hide behind the crap they tell you, and even worse repeat it!



    "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
    news:%23tsuJRspGHA.4424@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
    > His point was that if Vista and XP are both freshly installed and not yet
    > loaded up with progs, XP will run faster. This is true right now because
    > the Vista code contains debugging code that slows things down and the
    > Vista code is not yet optimized. On hardware from the period when XP
    > rtm'd XP may still beat Vista final because XP is optimized for the
    > typical hardware profiles of the period. On current new hardware Vista
    > final should run away from XP because Vista will be optimized for the new
    > typical hardware profiles.
    >
    > Note: Few people optimize XP for greater memory when they add it. There
    > is a lot that can be done, like increasing various caches. The same with
    > other upgrades.
    >
    >
    >
    > "Beck" <beck@none> wrote in message
    > news:OmMHZGppGHA.4268@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
    >>
    >> "John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
    >> news:OZzYDcopGHA.4752@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
    >>> that's the main problem with people who "testing" vista...
    >>>
    >>> they just poke at it... "Gee wow nice glass effect.. oh and that
    >>> flip 3d weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!"
    >>>
    >>> to see how crappy it really is you have to put it to the real test
    >>> but installing 150+ applications and 5-10 extra hardware...
    >>>
    >>> and if it doesn't crawl like a turtle with arthritis it will be a
    >>> miracle!

    >>
    >> I think its important to test it with all sorts and number of programs.
    >> Just because one person may be able to run say Opera for example, doesn't
    >> mean others will have no problems.
    >> Someone using 2-3 applications is just as important to the testing
    >> procedure as someone who wishes to throw 100 programs at it.
    >>

    >
    >




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