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| | Activation. Brian W wrote: Quote: > > "Alias" <alias@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:O3$tMVbMIHA.5172@xxxxxx Quote: >> >> How many paying customers know the difference between an OEM or a >> retail copy? >> > telling the operator I purchased it in a retail store (which is > technically true, even though it isn't a 'retail' version). Hehe, good one, maybe we should all call in and when they ask for the product code spell out P-C-L-I-N-U-X-O-S. Be the first one on your block to have an activated copy... Seriously though I think we are forgetting one of the founding principles of most western society, innocent until proven guilty, and while I entirely support Microsoft's right to protect their not inconsiderable investment, even to the extent of accepting some "Persuasive Business Practices", I feel that this methodology is a real support killer which has minimal effect on thieves and seriously damages relations with millions of perfectly legitimate customers. We have already seen what happens when it goes wrong, so now, whether it happens or not, many of us are "Just waiting until next time". I mean we have been assured that should these activation servers go down, the default state will remain activated, but we were assured that WGA/WPA would not be used as a Kill Switch too and see where that has gone ![]() In the even of a terrorist strike, electronic or physical, do we really want the undamaged part of our infrastructure to deactivate itself. Couldn't happen? Swat they said last time, you know? There is no way to avoid some losses, one just has to live with them, same as there is no way to completely eliminate terrorism. This is what happens when someone decides that established principles are out of date and fails to properly analyze why they were established in the first place |
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| Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Re: Activation. Hi, My computer has recently been returned after being repaired. I know windows was re-installed while it was away and i now keep getting an icon come up saying i need to activate windows. When i put my product key in i am told it is already in use. It is definitely the right product key and if it is already in use i must be using it so why do i keep getting a reminder. I have 25 days left to activate which sounds a lot but with the help microsoft gives you its not long. Can anyone help or advise. Regards Mark. You will just need to do a Phone Activation. This tutorial will show you how step by step. Activate Vista by Phone Shawn |
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| | Re: Activation. Hi again, Thank-you all for your input. I just went to the validate windows page and got a windows validated message but is this the same as an activation. Regards Mark. "brink" wrote: Quote: > > nobbygee5;518921 Wrote: Quote: > > Hi, > > My computer has recently been returned after being repaired. I know > > windows was re-installed while it was away and i now keep getting an > > icon > > come up saying i need to activate windows. When i put my product key in > > i am > > told it is already in use. It is definitely the right product key and > > if it > > is already in use i must be using it so why do i keep getting a > > reminder. I > > have 25 days left to activate which sounds a lot but with the help > > microsoft > > gives you its not long. Can anyone help or advise. > > Regards Mark. > Hi Mark, > > You will just need to do a Phone Activation. This tutorial will show > you how step by step. > > Activate Vista by Phone > > Shawn > > > -- > brink > > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* > WWW.VISTAX64.COM (\"HTTP://WWW.VISTAX64.COM\") > *Please post feedback to help others.* > |
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| Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Re: Activation. Hi again, Thank-you all for your input. I just went to the validate windows page and got a windows validated message but is this the same as an activation. Regards Mark. ---------------------------------------------- "brink" wrote: Hi Mark, > > You will just need to do a Phone Activation. This tutorial will show > you how step by step. > > Activate Vista by Phone > > Shawn Double check in "System" to see if it is activated now. Right click Computer in the Start menu and click Properties. If not, then you will need to do a Phone Activation. Shawn |
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| | Re: Activation. Hi again, Had to use the phone method eventually but success at last. Thanks for all your help. Regards Mark. "nobbygee5" wrote: Quote: > Hi again, > Thank-you all for your input. I just went to the validate > windows page and got a windows validated message but is this the same as an > activation. > Regards Mark. > > "brink" wrote: > Quote: > > > > nobbygee5;518921 Wrote: Quote: > > > Hi, > > > My computer has recently been returned after being repaired. I know > > > windows was re-installed while it was away and i now keep getting an > > > icon > > > come up saying i need to activate windows. When i put my product key in > > > i am > > > told it is already in use. It is definitely the right product key and > > > if it > > > is already in use i must be using it so why do i keep getting a > > > reminder. I > > > have 25 days left to activate which sounds a lot but with the help > > > microsoft > > > gives you its not long. Can anyone help or advise. > > > Regards Mark. > > Hi Mark, > > > > You will just need to do a Phone Activation. This tutorial will show > > you how step by step. > > > > Activate Vista by Phone > > > > Shawn > > > > > > -- > > brink > > > > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* > > WWW.VISTAX64.COM (\"HTTP://WWW.VISTAX64.COM\") > > *Please post feedback to help others.* > > |
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| | Re: Activation. "Alias" <alias@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:e6agDUxKIHA.4272@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> Oh, by the way...they don't like you there either...LOL > Not been my experience. My experience is that I have received very helpful > suggestions there. |
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| Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Re: Activation. Hi again, Had to use the phone method eventually but success at last. Thanks for all your help. Regards Mark. ----------------------------- "brink" wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > > > You will just need to do a Phone Activation. This tutorial will show > > you how step by step. > > > > Activate Vista by Phone > > > > Shawn Glad to hear it. Thank you for the feedback. Shawn |
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| | Re: Activation. See below... Donald L McDaniel wrote: Quote: > I wonder why you would say that, sir... > Each time I need to activate my OS via phone, the tech asks me two > [or more, depending on my answer] questions: > 1) "Please give me the numbers on your screen" > > 2) "Is this your first time installing this Software?" > If your answer is "Yes", they simply respond with a string of numbers, > which you enter, after which the tech asks you to click on "OK", which > has always resulted in immediate activation. > 3) If your answer is "No", they will ask a further question: > "Is this the only computer you have installed this OS on?" > Depending on your answer, they will ask further questions: > If your answer to this third question is "Yes", they will give you > a string of numbers, which you will enter. Then they will direct you > to click on "OK", upon which the OS is immediately activated. > If your answer is "no", the outcome will depend upon your Product ID > type: > If it is "OEM", you will be told that the product is already > activated on another machine, and will be directed to purchase a > second license, and the activation will be denied. > If it is "RETAIL", you will be given an opportunity to explain why > it appears that you are installing your product on more than one > machine at once. > > Just WHERE in this does one find "grovel to the phone activators that > you're not a thief and maybe they will give you permission to use > something you bought"? getting asked by Ford to appear at their agency and provide proof of purchase? Do you have to reactivate your car each time you change the tires or fit a new light bulb? Yes this is a somewhat different scenario, just as thieves and genuine users are "Different". When a crime occurs it's quite rare for the police to arrest and detain everybody who just "Might" be responsible. When you allow the Federal Government to do things "Because they can" abuses occur, abuses are even more likely when a non Government Corporation (Blackwater) is given a free hand to do what they "Can". |
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| | Re: Activation. "Alias" <alias@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O3$tMVbMIHA.5172@xxxxxx Quote: > > How many paying customers know the difference between an OEM or a retail > copy? > telling the operator I purchased it in a retail store (which is technically true, even though it isn't a 'retail' version). |
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| | Re: Activation. Brian W wrote: Quote: > > "Alias" <alias@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:O3$tMVbMIHA.5172@xxxxxx Quote: >> >> How many paying customers know the difference between an OEM or a >> retail copy? >> > telling the operator I purchased it in a retail store (which is > technically true, even though it isn't a 'retail' version). Hehe, good one, maybe we should all call in and when they ask for the product code spell out P-C-L-I-N-U-X-O-S. Be the first one on your block to have an activated copy... Seriously though I think we are forgetting one of the founding principles of most western society, innocent until proven guilty, and while I entirely support Microsoft's right to protect their not inconsiderable investment, even to the extent of accepting some "Persuasive Business Practices", I feel that this methodology is a real support killer which has minimal effect on thieves and seriously damages relations with millions of perfectly legitimate customers. We have already seen what happens when it goes wrong, so now, whether it happens or not, many of us are "Just waiting until next time". I mean we have been assured that should these activation servers go down, the default state will remain activated, but we were assured that WGA/WPA would not be used as a Kill Switch too and see where that has gone ![]() In the even of a terrorist strike, electronic or physical, do we really want the undamaged part of our infrastructure to deactivate itself. Couldn't happen? Swat they said last time, you know? There is no way to avoid some losses, one just has to live with them, same as there is no way to completely eliminate terrorism. This is what happens when someone decides that established principles are out of date and fails to properly analyze why they were established in the first place ![]() |
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