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Old 11-19-2007   #1 (permalink)
nobbygee5


 
 

Activation.

Brian W wrote:
Quote:

>
> "Alias" <alias@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:O3$tMVbMIHA.5172@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>
>> How many paying customers know the difference between an OEM or a
>> retail copy?
>>
> Even MS don't know apparently. I re-activated my generic OEM Vista by
> telling the operator I purchased it in a retail store (which is
> technically true, even though it isn't a 'retail' version).

Hehe, good one, maybe we should all call in and when they ask for the
product code spell out P-C-L-I-N-U-X-O-S. Be the first one on your block
to have an activated copy...

Seriously though I think we are forgetting one of the founding
principles of most western society, innocent until proven guilty, and
while I entirely support Microsoft's right to protect their not
inconsiderable investment, even to the extent of accepting some
"Persuasive Business Practices", I feel that this methodology is a real
support killer which has minimal effect on thieves and seriously damages
relations with millions of perfectly legitimate customers. We have
already seen what happens when it goes wrong, so now, whether it happens
or not, many of us are "Just waiting until next time".

I mean we have been assured that should these activation servers go
down, the default state will remain activated, but we were assured that
WGA/WPA would not be used as a Kill Switch too and see where that has
gone

In the even of a terrorist strike, electronic or physical, do we really
want the undamaged part of our infrastructure to deactivate itself.
Couldn't happen? Swat they said last time, you know?

There is no way to avoid some losses, one just has to live with them,
same as there is no way to completely eliminate terrorism. This is what
happens when someone decides that established principles are out of date
and fails to properly analyze why they were established in the first
place

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-19-2007   #2 (permalink)


Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: Activation.

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by nobbygee5 View Post
Hi,
My computer has recently been returned after being repaired. I know
windows was re-installed while it was away and i now keep getting an icon
come up saying i need to activate windows. When i put my product key in i am
told it is already in use. It is definitely the right product key and if it
is already in use i must be using it so why do i keep getting a reminder. I
have 25 days left to activate which sounds a lot but with the help microsoft
gives you its not long. Can anyone help or advise.
Regards Mark.
Hi Mark,

You will just need to do a Phone Activation. This tutorial will show you how step by step.

Activate Vista by Phone

Shawn
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-19-2007   #3 (permalink)
nobbygee5


 
 

Re: Activation.

Hi again,
Thank-you all for your input. I just went to the validate
windows page and got a windows validated message but is this the same as an
activation.
Regards Mark.

"brink" wrote:
Quote:

>
> nobbygee5;518921 Wrote:
Quote:

> > Hi,
> > My computer has recently been returned after being repaired. I know
> > windows was re-installed while it was away and i now keep getting an
> > icon
> > come up saying i need to activate windows. When i put my product key in
> > i am
> > told it is already in use. It is definitely the right product key and
> > if it
> > is already in use i must be using it so why do i keep getting a
> > reminder. I
> > have 25 days left to activate which sounds a lot but with the help
> > microsoft
> > gives you its not long. Can anyone help or advise.
> > Regards Mark.
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> You will just need to do a Phone Activation. This tutorial will show
> you how step by step.
>
> Activate Vista by Phone
>
> Shawn
>
>
> --
> brink
>
> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
> WWW.VISTAX64.COM (\"HTTP://WWW.VISTAX64.COM\")
> *Please post feedback to help others.*
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-19-2007   #4 (permalink)


Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: Activation.

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by nobbygee5 View Post
Hi again,
Thank-you all for your input. I just went to the validate
windows page and got a windows validated message but is this the same as an
activation.
Regards Mark.
----------------------------------------------
"brink" wrote:
Hi Mark,
>
> You will just need to do a Phone Activation. This tutorial will show
> you how step by step.
>
>
Activate Vista by Phone
>
> Shawn
Mark,

Double check in "System" to see if it is activated now. Right click Computer in the Start menu and click Properties. If not, then you will need to do a Phone Activation.

Shawn
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-20-2007   #5 (permalink)
nobbygee5


 
 

Re: Activation.

Hi again,
Had to use the phone method eventually but success at last.
Thanks for all your help.
Regards Mark.

"nobbygee5" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi again,
> Thank-you all for your input. I just went to the validate
> windows page and got a windows validated message but is this the same as an
> activation.
> Regards Mark.
>
> "brink" wrote:
>
Quote:

> >
> > nobbygee5;518921 Wrote:
Quote:

> > > Hi,
> > > My computer has recently been returned after being repaired. I know
> > > windows was re-installed while it was away and i now keep getting an
> > > icon
> > > come up saying i need to activate windows. When i put my product key in
> > > i am
> > > told it is already in use. It is definitely the right product key and
> > > if it
> > > is already in use i must be using it so why do i keep getting a
> > > reminder. I
> > > have 25 days left to activate which sounds a lot but with the help
> > > microsoft
> > > gives you its not long. Can anyone help or advise.
> > > Regards Mark.
> >
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > You will just need to do a Phone Activation. This tutorial will show
> > you how step by step.
> >
> > Activate Vista by Phone
> >
> > Shawn
> >
> >
> > --
> > brink
> >
> > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.*
> > WWW.VISTAX64.COM (\"HTTP://WWW.VISTAX64.COM\")
> > *Please post feedback to help others.*
> >
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-20-2007   #6 (permalink)
dennis


 
 

Re: Activation.



"Alias" <alias@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e6agDUxKIHA.4272@xxxxxx

Quote:
Quote:

>> Oh, by the way...they don't like you there either...LOL
>
> Not been my experience. My experience is that I have received very helpful
> suggestions there.
I wouldn't count on that.. not now they know you are a troll.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-20-2007   #7 (permalink)


Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: Activation.

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by nobbygee5 View Post
Hi again,
Had to use the phone method eventually but success at last.
Thanks for all your help.
Regards Mark.
-----------------------------
"brink" wrote:
> > Hi Mark,
> >
> > You will just need to do a Phone Activation. This tutorial will show
> > you how step by step.
> >
> >
Activate Vista by Phone
> >
> > Shawn
Mark,

Glad to hear it. Thank you for the feedback.

Shawn
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-28-2007   #8 (permalink)
Charlie Tame


 
 

Re: Activation.

See below...

Donald L McDaniel wrote:
Quote:

> I wonder why you would say that, sir...
> Each time I need to activate my OS via phone, the tech asks me two
> [or more, depending on my answer] questions:
> 1) "Please give me the numbers on your screen"
>
> 2) "Is this your first time installing this Software?"
> If your answer is "Yes", they simply respond with a string of numbers,
> which you enter, after which the tech asks you to click on "OK", which
> has always resulted in immediate activation.
> 3) If your answer is "No", they will ask a further question:
> "Is this the only computer you have installed this OS on?"
> Depending on your answer, they will ask further questions:
> If your answer to this third question is "Yes", they will give you
> a string of numbers, which you will enter. Then they will direct you
> to click on "OK", upon which the OS is immediately activated.
> If your answer is "no", the outcome will depend upon your Product ID
> type:
> If it is "OEM", you will be told that the product is already
> activated on another machine, and will be directed to purchase a
> second license, and the activation will be denied.
> If it is "RETAIL", you will be given an opportunity to explain why
> it appears that you are installing your product on more than one
> machine at once.
>
> Just WHERE in this does one find "grovel to the phone activators that
> you're not a thief and maybe they will give you permission to use
> something you bought"?
Just why do you have to keep activating your copy by phone? Do you keep
getting asked by Ford to appear at their agency and provide proof of
purchase? Do you have to reactivate your car each time you change the
tires or fit a new light bulb?

Yes this is a somewhat different scenario, just as thieves and genuine
users are "Different". When a crime occurs it's quite rare for the
police to arrest and detain everybody who just "Might" be responsible.

When you allow the Federal Government to do things "Because they can"
abuses occur, abuses are even more likely when a non Government
Corporation (Blackwater) is given a free hand to do what they "Can".
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-28-2007   #9 (permalink)
Brian W


 
 

Re: Activation.


"Alias" <alias@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O3$tMVbMIHA.5172@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> How many paying customers know the difference between an OEM or a retail
> copy?
>
Even MS don't know apparently. I re-activated my generic OEM Vista by
telling the operator I purchased it in a retail store (which is technically
true, even though it isn't a 'retail' version).

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-28-2007   #10 (permalink)
Charlie Tame


 
 

Re: Activation.

Brian W wrote:
Quote:

>
> "Alias" <alias@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:O3$tMVbMIHA.5172@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>
>> How many paying customers know the difference between an OEM or a
>> retail copy?
>>
> Even MS don't know apparently. I re-activated my generic OEM Vista by
> telling the operator I purchased it in a retail store (which is
> technically true, even though it isn't a 'retail' version).

Hehe, good one, maybe we should all call in and when they ask for the
product code spell out P-C-L-I-N-U-X-O-S. Be the first one on your block
to have an activated copy...

Seriously though I think we are forgetting one of the founding
principles of most western society, innocent until proven guilty, and
while I entirely support Microsoft's right to protect their not
inconsiderable investment, even to the extent of accepting some
"Persuasive Business Practices", I feel that this methodology is a real
support killer which has minimal effect on thieves and seriously damages
relations with millions of perfectly legitimate customers. We have
already seen what happens when it goes wrong, so now, whether it happens
or not, many of us are "Just waiting until next time".

I mean we have been assured that should these activation servers go
down, the default state will remain activated, but we were assured that
WGA/WPA would not be used as a Kill Switch too and see where that has
gone

In the even of a terrorist strike, electronic or physical, do we really
want the undamaged part of our infrastructure to deactivate itself.
Couldn't happen? Swat they said last time, you know?

There is no way to avoid some losses, one just has to live with them,
same as there is no way to completely eliminate terrorism. This is what
happens when someone decides that established principles are out of date
and fails to properly analyze why they were established in the first
place

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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