Vista - Disc Cloning

11-19-2007

Hi

I have two internal HD's on my PC. On my old machine (XP), I used to clone
using Ghost (running from DOS), but it doesn't seem to work on my new PC. I
have downloaded a trial version of Acronis True Image, but in the disc
cloning feature it says I will need to remove the old disc once cloned. I
don't want to do this - I want to have two identical discs so I can boot up
from either in the event of failure.

Does anyone know what I should do? Do I need to hide the partitions
afterwards? If so, how?

Thanks very much

11-20-2007

Hi,

What you want is disk mirroring. It is available natively in some editions
of Vista.

Right-click Computer | Manage | Disk management. You will need to upgrade
both drives to "Dynamic Disks" before you ca mirror them.

ThePro

"Danya" <Danya@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

> Hi
>
> I have two internal HD's on my PC.
> I want to have two identical discs so I can boot up
> from either in the event of failure.

11-20-2007

On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:45:03 -0800, Danya
<Danya@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

> Hi
>
> I have two internal HD's on my PC. On my old machine (XP), I used to clone
> using Ghost (running from DOS), but it doesn't seem to work on my new PC. I
> have downloaded a trial version of Acronis True Image, but in the disc
> cloning feature it says I will need to remove the old disc once cloned. I
> don't want to do this - I want to have two identical discs so I can boot up
> from either in the event of failure.

If I were you, I would rethink your backup strategy. I don't recommend
backup to a second non-removable hard drive because it leaves you
susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and backup
to many of the most common dangers: severe power glitches, nearby
lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer.

I would remove that second drive from the computer and mount it in an
external USB enclosure. Then do your cloning to that. If the original
drive fails, you can either replace it and copy the cloned drive to
the new one, or mount the cloned drive in place of the failed one.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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11-20-2007

"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ncf6k35q5h35hiu3fpr6sg48tbskse3ar5@xxxxxx

Quote:

> On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:45:03 -0800, Danya
> <Danya@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

Quote:

>> Hi
>>
>> I have two internal HD's on my PC. On my old machine (XP), I used to
>> clone
>> using Ghost (running from DOS), but it doesn't seem to work on my new PC.
>> I
>> have downloaded a trial version of Acronis True Image, but in the disc
>> cloning feature it says I will need to remove the old disc once cloned. I
>> don't want to do this - I want to have two identical discs so I can boot
>> up
>> from either in the event of failure.

>
>
> If I were you, I would rethink your backup strategy. I don't recommend
> backup to a second non-removable hard drive because it leaves you
> susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and backup
> to many of the most common dangers: severe power glitches, nearby
> lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer.
>
> I would remove that second drive from the computer and mount it in an
> external USB enclosure. Then do your cloning to that. If the original
> drive fails, you can either replace it and copy the cloned drive to
> the new one, or mount the cloned drive in place of the failed one.

Also one clone is not a backup strategy.
Murphy says that the system will fail while you are creating your clone and
you will lose both.

11-20-2007

On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:24:41 -0000, "dennis@xxxxxx"
<dennis@xxxxxx-ass.net> wrote:

Quote:

>
>
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ncf6k35q5h35hiu3fpr6sg48tbskse3ar5@xxxxxx

Quote:

> > On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:45:03 -0800, Danya
> > <Danya@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >

Quote:

> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I have two internal HD's on my PC. On my old machine (XP), I used to
> >> clone
> >> using Ghost (running from DOS), but it doesn't seem to work on my new PC.
> >> I
> >> have downloaded a trial version of Acronis True Image, but in the disc
> >> cloning feature it says I will need to remove the old disc once cloned. I
> >> don't want to do this - I want to have two identical discs so I can boot
> >> up
> >> from either in the event of failure.

> >
> >
> > If I were you, I would rethink your backup strategy. I don't recommend
> > backup to a second non-removable hard drive because it leaves you
> > susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and backup
> > to many of the most common dangers: severe power glitches, nearby
> > lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer.
> >
> > I would remove that second drive from the computer and mount it in an
> > external USB enclosure. Then do your cloning to that. If the original
> > drive fails, you can either replace it and copy the cloned drive to
> > the new one, or mount the cloned drive in place of the failed one.

>
> Also one clone is not a backup strategy.
> Murphy says that the system will fail while you are creating your clone and
> you will lose both.

True. It's best to have at least two such external drives, and
alternate their use. However, I wanted to focus on what I considered
the main thing wrong with his plan, and not introduce other points.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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11-19-2007	#1 (permalink)
Danya n/a posts	Disc Cloning Hi I have two internal HD's on my PC. On my old machine (XP), I used to clone using Ghost (running from DOS), but it doesn't seem to work on my new PC. I have downloaded a trial version of Acronis True Image, but in the disc cloning feature it says I will need to remove the old disc once cloned. I don't want to do this - I want to have two identical discs so I can boot up from either in the event of failure. Does anyone know what I should do? Do I need to hide the partitions afterwards? If so, how? Thanks very much
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11-20-2007	#2 (permalink)
ThePro n/a posts	Re: Disc Cloning Hi, What you want is disk mirroring. It is available natively in some editions of Vista. Right-click Computer \| Manage \| Disk management. You will need to upgrade both drives to "Dynamic Disks" before you ca mirror them. ThePro "Danya" <Danya@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > Hi > > I have two internal HD's on my PC. > I want to have two identical discs so I can boot up > from either in the event of failure.
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11-20-2007	#3 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP n/a posts	Re: Disc Cloning On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:45:03 -0800, Danya <Danya@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > Hi > > I have two internal HD's on my PC. On my old machine (XP), I used to clone > using Ghost (running from DOS), but it doesn't seem to work on my new PC. I > have downloaded a trial version of Acronis True Image, but in the disc > cloning feature it says I will need to remove the old disc once cloned. I > don't want to do this - I want to have two identical discs so I can boot up > from either in the event of failure. If I were you, I would rethink your backup strategy. I don't recommend backup to a second non-removable hard drive because it leaves you susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and backup to many of the most common dangers: severe power glitches, nearby lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer. I would remove that second drive from the computer and mount it in an external USB enclosure. Then do your cloning to that. If the original drive fails, you can either replace it and copy the cloned drive to the new one, or mount the cloned drive in place of the failed one. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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11-20-2007	#4 (permalink)
dennis n/a posts	Re: Disc Cloning "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ncf6k35q5h35hiu3fpr6sg48tbskse3ar5@xxxxxx Quote: > On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:45:03 -0800, Danya > <Danya@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >> Hi >> >> I have two internal HD's on my PC. On my old machine (XP), I used to >> clone >> using Ghost (running from DOS), but it doesn't seem to work on my new PC. >> I >> have downloaded a trial version of Acronis True Image, but in the disc >> cloning feature it says I will need to remove the old disc once cloned. I >> don't want to do this - I want to have two identical discs so I can boot >> up >> from either in the event of failure. > > > If I were you, I would rethink your backup strategy. I don't recommend > backup to a second non-removable hard drive because it leaves you > susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and backup > to many of the most common dangers: severe power glitches, nearby > lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer. > > I would remove that second drive from the computer and mount it in an > external USB enclosure. Then do your cloning to that. If the original > drive fails, you can either replace it and copy the cloned drive to > the new one, or mount the cloned drive in place of the failed one. Also one clone is not a backup strategy. Murphy says that the system will fail while you are creating your clone and you will lose both.
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11-20-2007	#5 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP n/a posts	Re: Disc Cloning On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 21:24:41 -0000, "dennis@xxxxxx" <dennis@xxxxxx-ass.net> wrote: Quote: > > > "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:ncf6k35q5h35hiu3fpr6sg48tbskse3ar5@xxxxxx Quote: > > On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:45:03 -0800, Danya > > <Danya@xxxxxx> wrote: > > Quote: > >> Hi > >> > >> I have two internal HD's on my PC. On my old machine (XP), I used to > >> clone > >> using Ghost (running from DOS), but it doesn't seem to work on my new PC. > >> I > >> have downloaded a trial version of Acronis True Image, but in the disc > >> cloning feature it says I will need to remove the old disc once cloned. I > >> don't want to do this - I want to have two identical discs so I can boot > >> up > >> from either in the event of failure. > > > > > > If I were you, I would rethink your backup strategy. I don't recommend > > backup to a second non-removable hard drive because it leaves you > > susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and backup > > to many of the most common dangers: severe power glitches, nearby > > lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer. > > > > I would remove that second drive from the computer and mount it in an > > external USB enclosure. Then do your cloning to that. If the original > > drive fails, you can either replace it and copy the cloned drive to > > the new one, or mount the cloned drive in place of the failed one. > > Also one clone is not a backup strategy. > Murphy says that the system will fail while you are creating your clone and > you will lose both. True. It's best to have at least two such external drives, and alternate their use. However, I wanted to focus on what I considered the main thing wrong with his plan, and not introduce other points. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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