Vista - Where are all m y GB's gone? Loosing HD Space

11-30-2007

I have a Lenovo R61 laptop for about 4 weeks now
and running Vista office on it. A few days ago I
suddeny saw my available HD space dropping below
10GB of a total of 110GB.
Not knowing of what might have happend, I installed
and started a tiny little programm (TreeSize) to
figure out where was eating all the space.

To my very surprise, the bill is as follows:

Used in all folders 40.7 GB,
Available HD Space: 25.9GB out of 110GB

IMHO, my caculation is as follows:

110GB minus 40GB equals 70GB (free space),
Vista reports 25 GB free, so I am missing
roughly 50GB, more than reported as beeing
allocated.

Who is using all this disk-space??

Any help would very much appreciated.

Peter

11-30-2007

Some is the difference between raw capacity and formatted capacity. The rest
is in a restore
partition, usually 15% or more... for Lenovo its a lot more....

"Peter" <peter.kuennemann@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uLclFN0MIHA.5140@xxxxxx

Quote:

>I have a Lenovo R61 laptop for about 4 weeks now
> and running Vista office on it. A few days ago I
> suddeny saw my available HD space dropping below
> 10GB of a total of 110GB.
> Not knowing of what might have happend, I installed
> and started a tiny little programm (TreeSize) to
> figure out where was eating all the space.
>
> To my very surprise, the bill is as follows:
>
> Used in all folders 40.7 GB,
> Available HD Space: 25.9GB out of 110GB
>
> IMHO, my caculation is as follows:
>
> 110GB minus 40GB equals 70GB (free space),
> Vista reports 25 GB free, so I am missing
> roughly 50GB, more than reported as beeing
> allocated.
>
> Who is using all this disk-space??
>
> Any help would very much appreciated.
>
> Peter

11-30-2007

And System Restore Images the operating system might be using.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"Spirit" <unknown@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Some is the difference between raw capacity and formatted capacity. The
> rest is in a restore
> partition, usually 15% or more... for Lenovo its a lot more....
>
> "Peter" <peter.kuennemann@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uLclFN0MIHA.5140@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>I have a Lenovo R61 laptop for about 4 weeks now
>> and running Vista office on it. A few days ago I
>> suddeny saw my available HD space dropping below
>> 10GB of a total of 110GB.
>> Not knowing of what might have happend, I installed
>> and started a tiny little programm (TreeSize) to
>> figure out where was eating all the space.
>>
>> To my very surprise, the bill is as follows:
>>
>> Used in all folders 40.7 GB,
>> Available HD Space: 25.9GB out of 110GB
>>
>> IMHO, my caculation is as follows:
>>
>> 110GB minus 40GB equals 70GB (free space),
>> Vista reports 25 GB free, so I am missing
>> roughly 50GB, more than reported as beeing
>> allocated.
>>
>> Who is using all this disk-space??
>>
>> Any help would very much appreciated.
>>
>> Peter

>
>

11-30-2007

Spirit schrieb:

Quote:

> Some is the difference between raw capacity and formatted capacity. The rest
> is in a restore
> partition, usually 15% or more... for Lenovo its a lot more....

No, this would have been too easy :-) I am talking about the
Vista partition only! There is of corse an extra restore partion
but that has not been accounted here.
Peter

11-30-2007

The system restore partition set by Lenovo is not the same as the system
restore data produced by Vista which it will store on C.

Use Disk Cleanup to get space back. When the DC selection window appears,
click on more options and then click on 'Clean Up' in the 'System Resore and
Shadow copies' section.

--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

"Peter" <peter.kuennemann@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e7tz2a0MIHA.4196@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Spirit schrieb:

Quote:

>> Some is the difference between raw capacity and formatted capacity. The
>> rest is in a restore
>> partition, usually 15% or more... for Lenovo its a lot more....

>
> No, this would have been too easy :-) I am talking about the
> Vista partition only! There is of corse an extra restore partion
> but that has not been accounted here.
> Peter
>

11-30-2007

Mike Hall - MVP schrieb:

Quote:

> The system restore partition set by Lenovo is not the same as the system
> restore data produced by Vista which it will store on C.

No doubt :-)

Quote:

> Use Disk Cleanup to get space back. When the DC selection window
> appears, click on more options and then click on 'Clean Up' in the
> 'System Resore and Shadow copies' section.

What I did: I opened Disk Cleanup, selected advanced options and
clicked the button to remove all but the last shadow copy. I think
it did the trick. I am quite sure that I did that before.

What I hate about Vista is its secretiveness.
- Why is'nt there any indication about how many space is used for shadow
copies?
- Where can I control how may space should be used at maximum, if any

etc. etc.

Anyhow, I got the space back.

Peter

11-30-2007

Peter wrote:

Quote:

> Mike Hall - MVP schrieb:

Quote:

>> The system restore partition set by Lenovo is not the same as the
>> system restore data produced by Vista which it will store on C.

>
> No doubt :-)
>

Quote:

>> Use Disk Cleanup to get space back. When the DC selection window
>> appears, click on more options and then click on 'Clean Up' in the
>> 'System Resore and Shadow copies' section.

>
> What I did: I opened Disk Cleanup, selected advanced options and
> clicked the button to remove all but the last shadow copy. I think it
> did the trick. I am quite sure that I did that before.
>
> What I hate about Vista is its secretiveness. - Why is'nt there any
> indication about how many space is used for shadow copies? - Where
> can I control how may space should be used at maximum, if any
>
> etc. etc.
>
> Anyhow, I got the space back.

I switch off System Restore on my PCs and Use Acronis TrueImage to
schedule "System State" backups to my D: drive. As it can do incremental
backups of system state, the initial backup is 3GB with the subsequent
ones coming in at 23MB-45MB. Vista's System Restore takes about 3GB each
snapshot on my desktop.

I now have full control of my system recovery data with no large hidden
chunks of data :-)

--
Annie___ (VM BB L)________________________________
http://find-out-more.brion.me.uk - http://email-me.brion.me.uk

11-30-2007

See Windows Help and support for
'system restore'
line 10 on my result is 'how much disk space does system restore require'
(short answer - up to 15% of disk)

Michael
Vista Home premium

"Peter" <peter.kuennemann@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Mike Hall - MVP schrieb:

Quote:

>> The system restore partition set by Lenovo is not the same as the system
>> restore data produced by Vista which it will store on C.

>
> No doubt :-)
>

Quote:

>> Use Disk Cleanup to get space back. When the DC selection window appears,
>> click on more options and then click on 'Clean Up' in the 'System Resore
>> and Shadow copies' section.

>
> What I did: I opened Disk Cleanup, selected advanced options and
> clicked the button to remove all but the last shadow copy. I think
> it did the trick. I am quite sure that I did that before.
>
> What I hate about Vista is its secretiveness.
> - Why is'nt there any indication about how many space is used for shadow
> copies?
> - Where can I control how may space should be used at maximum, if any
>
> etc. etc.
>
> Anyhow, I got the space back.
>
> Peter

11-30-2007

And you really needed that space, even with another 100gb free?

System Restore isn't there just to use up space, and when you come to use
it, you won't care how much space it takes up as long as your system is
brought back from unconscious.. :-)

--
Mike Hall - MVP
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx

"Peter" <peter.kuennemann@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23$py6L1MIHA.748@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Mike Hall - MVP schrieb:

Quote:

>> The system restore partition set by Lenovo is not the same as the system
>> restore data produced by Vista which it will store on C.

>
> No doubt :-)
>

Quote:

>> Use Disk Cleanup to get space back. When the DC selection window appears,
>> click on more options and then click on 'Clean Up' in the 'System Resore
>> and Shadow copies' section.

>
> What I did: I opened Disk Cleanup, selected advanced options and
> clicked the button to remove all but the last shadow copy. I think
> it did the trick. I am quite sure that I did that before.
>
> What I hate about Vista is its secretiveness.
> - Why is'nt there any indication about how many space is used for shadow
> copies?
> - Where can I control how may space should be used at maximum, if any
>
> etc. etc.
>
> Anyhow, I got the space back.
>
> Peter

11-30-2007

Mike Hall - MVP schrieb:

Quote:

> And you really needed that space, even with another 100gb free?

No Idea what You mean here

Quote:

> System Restore isn't there just to use up space, and when you come to
> use it, you won't care how much space it takes up as long as your system
> is brought back from unconscious.. :-)

I do understand that we would need backup, but look what has been used
by Vista! After I removed all but the last backup, I recovered more
than 50GB!! Space currently 'in use' on the Vista Partion is about
40GB!! Available space was roughly 25GB.
So Backup took about double the size of the operational data, this does
does not really look to me as an reasonable amount of backup space,
especially if you get not told about that fact!
I do use my own central backup system (BackupPc) but I am not sure
whether any backup system would provide the required services.

Still looking for some kind information of how I could manage my HD
space myself insteadt of believing completely in Vista's voodo magic.

Thanks, Peter

11-30-2007	#1 (permalink)
Peter n/a posts	Where are all m y GB's gone? Loosing HD Space I have a Lenovo R61 laptop for about 4 weeks now and running Vista office on it. A few days ago I suddeny saw my available HD space dropping below 10GB of a total of 110GB. Not knowing of what might have happend, I installed and started a tiny little programm (TreeSize) to figure out where was eating all the space. To my very surprise, the bill is as follows: Used in all folders 40.7 GB, Available HD Space: 25.9GB out of 110GB IMHO, my caculation is as follows: 110GB minus 40GB equals 70GB (free space), Vista reports 25 GB free, so I am missing roughly 50GB, more than reported as beeing allocated. Who is using all this disk-space?? Any help would very much appreciated. Peter
My System Specs

11-30-2007	#2 (permalink)
Spirit n/a posts	Re: Where are all m y GB's gone? Loosing HD Space Some is the difference between raw capacity and formatted capacity. The rest is in a restore partition, usually 15% or more... for Lenovo its a lot more.... "Peter" <peter.kuennemann@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uLclFN0MIHA.5140@xxxxxx Quote: >I have a Lenovo R61 laptop for about 4 weeks now > and running Vista office on it. A few days ago I > suddeny saw my available HD space dropping below > 10GB of a total of 110GB. > Not knowing of what might have happend, I installed > and started a tiny little programm (TreeSize) to > figure out where was eating all the space. > > To my very surprise, the bill is as follows: > > Used in all folders 40.7 GB, > Available HD Space: 25.9GB out of 110GB > > IMHO, my caculation is as follows: > > 110GB minus 40GB equals 70GB (free space), > Vista reports 25 GB free, so I am missing > roughly 50GB, more than reported as beeing > allocated. > > Who is using all this disk-space?? > > Any help would very much appreciated. > > Peter
My System Specs

11-30-2007	#3 (permalink)
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] n/a posts	Re: Where are all m y GB's gone? Loosing HD Space And System Restore Images the operating system might be using. -- Andre Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com My Vista Quickstart Guide: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry "Spirit" <unknown@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OoWDCR0MIHA.4480@xxxxxx Quote: > Some is the difference between raw capacity and formatted capacity. The > rest is in a restore > partition, usually 15% or more... for Lenovo its a lot more.... > > "Peter" <peter.kuennemann@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:uLclFN0MIHA.5140@xxxxxx Quote: >>I have a Lenovo R61 laptop for about 4 weeks now >> and running Vista office on it. A few days ago I >> suddeny saw my available HD space dropping below >> 10GB of a total of 110GB. >> Not knowing of what might have happend, I installed >> and started a tiny little programm (TreeSize) to >> figure out where was eating all the space. >> >> To my very surprise, the bill is as follows: >> >> Used in all folders 40.7 GB, >> Available HD Space: 25.9GB out of 110GB >> >> IMHO, my caculation is as follows: >> >> 110GB minus 40GB equals 70GB (free space), >> Vista reports 25 GB free, so I am missing >> roughly 50GB, more than reported as beeing >> allocated. >> >> Who is using all this disk-space?? >> >> Any help would very much appreciated. >> >> Peter > >
My System Specs

11-30-2007	#4 (permalink)
Peter n/a posts	Re: Where are all m y GB's gone? Loosing HD Space Spirit schrieb: Quote: > Some is the difference between raw capacity and formatted capacity. The rest > is in a restore > partition, usually 15% or more... for Lenovo its a lot more.... No, this would have been too easy :-) I am talking about the Vista partition only! There is of corse an extra restore partion but that has not been accounted here. Peter
My System Specs

11-30-2007	#5 (permalink)
Mike Hall - MVP n/a posts	Re: Where are all m y GB's gone? Loosing HD Space The system restore partition set by Lenovo is not the same as the system restore data produced by Vista which it will store on C. Use Disk Cleanup to get space back. When the DC selection window appears, click on more options and then click on 'Clean Up' in the 'System Resore and Shadow copies' section. -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx "Peter" <peter.kuennemann@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:e7tz2a0MIHA.4196@xxxxxx Quote: > Spirit schrieb: Quote: >> Some is the difference between raw capacity and formatted capacity. The >> rest is in a restore >> partition, usually 15% or more... for Lenovo its a lot more.... > > No, this would have been too easy :-) I am talking about the > Vista partition only! There is of corse an extra restore partion > but that has not been accounted here. > Peter >
My System Specs

11-30-2007	#6 (permalink)
Peter n/a posts	Re: Where are all m y GB's gone? Loosing HD Space Mike Hall - MVP schrieb: Quote: > The system restore partition set by Lenovo is not the same as the system > restore data produced by Vista which it will store on C. No doubt :-) Quote: > Use Disk Cleanup to get space back. When the DC selection window > appears, click on more options and then click on 'Clean Up' in the > 'System Resore and Shadow copies' section. What I did: I opened Disk Cleanup, selected advanced options and clicked the button to remove all but the last shadow copy. I think it did the trick. I am quite sure that I did that before. What I hate about Vista is its secretiveness. - Why is'nt there any indication about how many space is used for shadow copies? - Where can I control how may space should be used at maximum, if any etc. etc. Anyhow, I got the space back. Peter
My System Specs

11-30-2007	#7 (permalink)
Annie R J Brion n/a posts	Re: Where are all m y GB's gone? Loosing HD Space Peter wrote: Quote: > Mike Hall - MVP schrieb: Quote: >> The system restore partition set by Lenovo is not the same as the >> system restore data produced by Vista which it will store on C. > > No doubt :-) > Quote: >> Use Disk Cleanup to get space back. When the DC selection window >> appears, click on more options and then click on 'Clean Up' in the >> 'System Resore and Shadow copies' section. > > What I did: I opened Disk Cleanup, selected advanced options and > clicked the button to remove all but the last shadow copy. I think it > did the trick. I am quite sure that I did that before. > > What I hate about Vista is its secretiveness. - Why is'nt there any > indication about how many space is used for shadow copies? - Where > can I control how may space should be used at maximum, if any > > etc. etc. > > Anyhow, I got the space back. I switch off System Restore on my PCs and Use Acronis TrueImage to schedule "System State" backups to my D: drive. As it can do incremental backups of system state, the initial backup is 3GB with the subsequent ones coming in at 23MB-45MB. Vista's System Restore takes about 3GB each snapshot on my desktop. I now have full control of my system recovery data with no large hidden chunks of data :-) -- Annie___ (VM BB L)________________________________ http://find-out-more.brion.me.uk - http://email-me.brion.me.uk
My System Specs

11-30-2007	#8 (permalink)
Michael Walraven n/a posts	Re: Where are all m y GB's gone? Loosing HD Space See Windows Help and support for 'system restore' line 10 on my result is 'how much disk space does system restore require' (short answer - up to 15% of disk) Michael Vista Home premium "Peter" <peter.kuennemann@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#$py6L1MIHA.748@xxxxxx Quote: > Mike Hall - MVP schrieb: Quote: >> The system restore partition set by Lenovo is not the same as the system >> restore data produced by Vista which it will store on C. > > No doubt :-) > Quote: >> Use Disk Cleanup to get space back. When the DC selection window appears, >> click on more options and then click on 'Clean Up' in the 'System Resore >> and Shadow copies' section. > > What I did: I opened Disk Cleanup, selected advanced options and > clicked the button to remove all but the last shadow copy. I think > it did the trick. I am quite sure that I did that before. > > What I hate about Vista is its secretiveness. > - Why is'nt there any indication about how many space is used for shadow > copies? > - Where can I control how may space should be used at maximum, if any > > etc. etc. > > Anyhow, I got the space back. > > Peter
My System Specs

11-30-2007	#9 (permalink)
Mike Hall - MVP n/a posts	Re: Where are all m y GB's gone? Loosing HD Space And you really needed that space, even with another 100gb free? System Restore isn't there just to use up space, and when you come to use it, you won't care how much space it takes up as long as your system is brought back from unconscious.. :-) -- Mike Hall - MVP http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx "Peter" <peter.kuennemann@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23$py6L1MIHA.748@xxxxxx Quote: > Mike Hall - MVP schrieb: Quote: >> The system restore partition set by Lenovo is not the same as the system >> restore data produced by Vista which it will store on C. > > No doubt :-) > Quote: >> Use Disk Cleanup to get space back. When the DC selection window appears, >> click on more options and then click on 'Clean Up' in the 'System Resore >> and Shadow copies' section. > > What I did: I opened Disk Cleanup, selected advanced options and > clicked the button to remove all but the last shadow copy. I think > it did the trick. I am quite sure that I did that before. > > What I hate about Vista is its secretiveness. > - Why is'nt there any indication about how many space is used for shadow > copies? > - Where can I control how may space should be used at maximum, if any > > etc. etc. > > Anyhow, I got the space back. > > Peter
My System Specs

11-30-2007	#10 (permalink)
Peter n/a posts	Re: Where are all m y GB's gone? Loosing HD Space Mike Hall - MVP schrieb: Quote: > And you really needed that space, even with another 100gb free? No Idea what You mean here Quote: > System Restore isn't there just to use up space, and when you come to > use it, you won't care how much space it takes up as long as your system > is brought back from unconscious.. :-) I do understand that we would need backup, but look what has been used by Vista! After I removed all but the last backup, I recovered more than 50GB!! Space currently 'in use' on the Vista Partion is about 40GB!! Available space was roughly 25GB. So Backup took about double the size of the operational data, this does does not really look to me as an reasonable amount of backup space, especially if you get not told about that fact! I do use my own central backup system (BackupPc) but I am not sure whether any backup system would provide the required services. Still looking for some kind information of how I could manage my HD space myself insteadt of believing completely in Vista's voodo magic. Thanks, Peter
My System Specs

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