Vista - Re: I don't think you need anti-virus with Vista

12-05-2007

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Trust me, you need Antivirus for Windows Vista, I am running Vista x64 and
> I was surprised when I did a scan with Norton AV Corporate Edition 10.2 it
> fold several Trojan horses and viruses under C:/Windows which successfully
> cleaned and deleted. But regardless of all the security technologies that
> come built into the OS, hackers are constantly attacking the platform and
> finding new ways to infiltrate the system. That is why you have Antivirus
> to stay one step ahead.
> --

this all reminds me of this bit from last year:

Allchin Suggests Vista Won't Need Antivirus
By Scott M. Fulton, III, BetaNews
November 9, 2006, 4:26 PM
During a telephone conference with reporters yesterday, outgoing Microsoft
co-president Jim Allchin, while touting the new security features of Windows
Vista, which was released to manufacturing yesterday, told a reporter that
the system's new lockdown features are so capable and thorough that he was
comfortable with his own seven-year-old son using Vista without antivirus
software installed.

On the other hand, he also said this:

"I'm not sure how the company lost sight of what matters to our customers,
both business and home, the most, but in my view we lost our way. I think
our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what
full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how
important current applications are, and really understanding what the most
important problems our customers face are"
- Jim Allchin, former Platform Products and Services Group, Microsoft.

and this:

"I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft."
- Jim Allchin, former Platform Products and Services Group, Microsoft.

12-05-2007

That was taken out of context and I believe he made him self much clearer by
insisting that Antivirus is still recommended. What he was trying to really
say was the new feature in Vista - ALSR (Address space layout randomization)
would make it more difficult to easily compromise the operating system
because it involves arranging the positions of key data areas.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"john" <john@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23Y3v1J4NIHA.1184@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Trust me, you need Antivirus for Windows Vista, I am running Vista x64
>> and I was surprised when I did a scan with Norton AV Corporate Edition
>> 10.2 it fold several Trojan horses and viruses under C:/Windows which
>> successfully cleaned and deleted. But regardless of all the security
>> technologies that come built into the OS, hackers are constantly
>> attacking the platform and finding new ways to infiltrate the system.
>> That is why you have Antivirus to stay one step ahead.
>> --

>
> this all reminds me of this bit from last year:
>
> Allchin Suggests Vista Won't Need Antivirus
> By Scott M. Fulton, III, BetaNews
> November 9, 2006, 4:26 PM
> During a telephone conference with reporters yesterday, outgoing Microsoft
> co-president Jim Allchin, while touting the new security features of
> Windows
> Vista, which was released to manufacturing yesterday, told a reporter that
> the system's new lockdown features are so capable and thorough that he was
> comfortable with his own seven-year-old son using Vista without antivirus
> software installed.
>
> On the other hand, he also said this:
>
> "I'm not sure how the company lost sight of what matters to our customers,
> both business and home, the most, but in my view we lost our way. I think
> our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what
> full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how
> important current applications are, and really understanding what the most
> important problems our customers face are"
> - Jim Allchin, former Platform Products and Services Group, Microsoft.
>
> and this:
>
> "I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft."
> - Jim Allchin, former Platform Products and Services Group, Microsoft.
>

12-05-2007	#1
john n/a posts	Re: I don't think you need anti-virus with Vista "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23Y3v1J4NIHA.1184@xxxxxx Quote: > Trust me, you need Antivirus for Windows Vista, I am running Vista x64 and > I was surprised when I did a scan with Norton AV Corporate Edition 10.2 it > fold several Trojan horses and viruses under C:/Windows which successfully > cleaned and deleted. But regardless of all the security technologies that > come built into the OS, hackers are constantly attacking the platform and > finding new ways to infiltrate the system. That is why you have Antivirus > to stay one step ahead. > -- this all reminds me of this bit from last year: Allchin Suggests Vista Won't Need Antivirus By Scott M. Fulton, III, BetaNews November 9, 2006, 4:26 PM During a telephone conference with reporters yesterday, outgoing Microsoft co-president Jim Allchin, while touting the new security features of Windows Vista, which was released to manufacturing yesterday, told a reporter that the system's new lockdown features are so capable and thorough that he was comfortable with his own seven-year-old son using Vista without antivirus software installed. On the other hand, he also said this: "I'm not sure how the company lost sight of what matters to our customers, both business and home, the most, but in my view we lost our way. I think our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how important current applications are, and really understanding what the most important problems our customers face are" - Jim Allchin, former Platform Products and Services Group, Microsoft. and this: "I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft." - Jim Allchin, former Platform Products and Services Group, Microsoft.
My System Specs

12-05-2007	#2
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] n/a posts	Re: I don't think you need anti-virus with Vista That was taken out of context and I believe he made him self much clearer by insisting that Antivirus is still recommended. What he was trying to really say was the new feature in Vista - ALSR (Address space layout randomization) would make it more difficult to easily compromise the operating system because it involves arranging the positions of key data areas. -- Andre Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com My Vista Quickstart Guide: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry "john" <john@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O3fMSC5NIHA.3556@xxxxxx Quote: > > "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:%23Y3v1J4NIHA.1184@xxxxxx Quote: >> Trust me, you need Antivirus for Windows Vista, I am running Vista x64 >> and I was surprised when I did a scan with Norton AV Corporate Edition >> 10.2 it fold several Trojan horses and viruses under C:/Windows which >> successfully cleaned and deleted. But regardless of all the security >> technologies that come built into the OS, hackers are constantly >> attacking the platform and finding new ways to infiltrate the system. >> That is why you have Antivirus to stay one step ahead. >> -- > > this all reminds me of this bit from last year: > > Allchin Suggests Vista Won't Need Antivirus > By Scott M. Fulton, III, BetaNews > November 9, 2006, 4:26 PM > During a telephone conference with reporters yesterday, outgoing Microsoft > co-president Jim Allchin, while touting the new security features of > Windows > Vista, which was released to manufacturing yesterday, told a reporter that > the system's new lockdown features are so capable and thorough that he was > comfortable with his own seven-year-old son using Vista without antivirus > software installed. > > On the other hand, he also said this: > > "I'm not sure how the company lost sight of what matters to our customers, > both business and home, the most, but in my view we lost our way. I think > our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what > full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how > important current applications are, and really understanding what the most > important problems our customers face are" > - Jim Allchin, former Platform Products and Services Group, Microsoft. > > and this: > > "I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft." > - Jim Allchin, former Platform Products and Services Group, Microsoft. >
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