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Any way to zap that annoying VGA icon?

  1. #1


    Vista Novice Guest

    Any way to zap that annoying VGA icon?

    Summary: How do I get rid of that very annoying VGA icon at startup which
    covers everything below, can't be moved, and seems to stay there "forever"?

    Reference: 9/25/2007 2:34 AM PST posting by "Retired Bill" titled "VGA plug
    connector icon displays every bootup"

    "Cal Bear '66" said: "My monitor also displays the connection (DVI) when I
    boot up, or wakeup the monitor, but it disappears very quickly and there is
    also no option to turn it off. Perhaps there might be some option to shorten
    the length of time it is on
    screen, otherwise there is possibly nothing you can do about it and it does
    not
    interfere with performance in any way. Another idea is to see if the monitor
    has a setting that only allows the VGA connection to be used so that it will
    not
    search connections for a signal. Vista itself has no options or controls for
    this behavior. "

    I'm not sure what he meant by "disappears very quickly" but mine stays up
    there 45 seconds, possibly longer which seems like 5 minutes when you are
    trying to see the things underneath it. Also, regarding "it does not
    interfere with performance in any way", it does lengthen my startup time by a
    minute since I can not do anything until I can see what's under this icon
    which is very large (.75" x 2.5") and cannot be moved.

    Did someone figure out how to use "some option to shorten the length of time
    it is on the screen" or how "to see if the monitor has a setting that only
    allows the VGA connection to be used so that it will not search connections
    for a signal [whatever that means]"?

    Also it seems like it comes up multiple times. "Dwarf" explained that was
    because the screen resolution was being changed, somehow causing it to appear
    again. He also said: "You may be able to turn it off through the menu
    options on the monitor"

    Did someone figure out how to do this?

    I have a new 22" flatscreen Gateway monitor with a new Gateway desktop
    computer and strangely I don't remember this appearing when I first got and
    used my system. Perhaps I am noticing it more because I am using the Vista
    "sleep" and "hibernate" options more when I leave the computer and this icon
    appears when I restart again. It just seems to come up all the time and is
    slowly driving me crazy!!!!

    Did anyone find out how to get rid of it entirely, shorten its duration,
    make it appear only once, not multiple times, move it, or in any other way
    make it less annoying?

    Thanks for any help you can give.
    --
    Charlie, the Vista Novice

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    Re: Any way to zap that annoying VGA icon?

    Give the model number of the monitor. Have you got the manual for it?

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  4. #3


    DP Guest

    Re: Any way to zap that annoying VGA icon?


    Advice to a newsgroup novice:
    Try to keep your question in one message thread. Looks like you took
    responses to an earlier message of yours and created a whole new topic out
    of it.
    Which means some people will be answering your old message and some will be
    answering this one. Which means some responders won't see what others are
    saying, so the whole dialogue is lost. Dialogue is the whole point of these
    groups so that one user may piggyback on the response of the other,
    improving the quality of the responses you get ("wisdom of crowds" and all
    that).


    "Vista Novice" <VistaNovice@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:B232AAB8-C448-4A9E-9940-B583E099BF69@xxxxxx

    > Summary: How do I get rid of that very annoying VGA icon at startup which
    > covers everything below, can't be moved, and seems to stay there
    > "forever"?
    >
    > Reference: 9/25/2007 2:34 AM PST posting by "Retired Bill" titled "VGA
    > plug
    > connector icon displays every bootup"
    >
    > "Cal Bear '66" said: "My monitor also displays the connection (DVI) when I
    > boot up, or wakeup the monitor, but it disappears very quickly and there
    > is
    > also no option to turn it off. Perhaps there might be some option to
    > shorten
    > the length of time it is on
    > screen, otherwise there is possibly nothing you can do about it and it
    > does
    > not
    > interfere with performance in any way. Another idea is to see if the
    > monitor
    > has a setting that only allows the VGA connection to be used so that it
    > will
    > not
    > search connections for a signal. Vista itself has no options or controls
    > for
    > this behavior. "
    >
    > I'm not sure what he meant by "disappears very quickly" but mine stays up
    > there 45 seconds, possibly longer which seems like 5 minutes when you are
    > trying to see the things underneath it. Also, regarding "it does not
    > interfere with performance in any way", it does lengthen my startup time
    > by a
    > minute since I can not do anything until I can see what's under this icon
    > which is very large (.75" x 2.5") and cannot be moved.
    >
    > Did someone figure out how to use "some option to shorten the length of
    > time
    > it is on the screen" or how "to see if the monitor has a setting that only
    > allows the VGA connection to be used so that it will not search
    > connections
    > for a signal [whatever that means]"?
    >
    > Also it seems like it comes up multiple times. "Dwarf" explained that was
    > because the screen resolution was being changed, somehow causing it to
    > appear
    > again. He also said: "You may be able to turn it off through the menu
    > options on the monitor"
    >
    > Did someone figure out how to do this?
    >
    > I have a new 22" flatscreen Gateway monitor with a new Gateway desktop
    > computer and strangely I don't remember this appearing when I first got
    > and
    > used my system. Perhaps I am noticing it more because I am using the
    > Vista
    > "sleep" and "hibernate" options more when I leave the computer and this
    > icon
    > appears when I restart again. It just seems to come up all the time and
    > is
    > slowly driving me crazy!!!!
    >
    > Did anyone find out how to get rid of it entirely, shorten its duration,
    > make it appear only once, not multiple times, move it, or in any other way
    > make it less annoying?
    >
    > Thanks for any help you can give.
    > --
    > Charlie, the Vista Novice

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  5. #4


    Peter Foldes Guest

    Re: Any way to zap that annoying VGA icon?

    Best described as here below

    http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

    --
    Peter

    Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
    Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

    "DP" <nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%235fg6nVQIHA.4128@xxxxxx

    >
    > Advice to a newsgroup novice:
    > Try to keep your question in one message thread. Looks like you took
    > responses to an earlier message of yours and created a whole new topic out
    > of it.
    > Which means some people will be answering your old message and some will be
    > answering this one. Which means some responders won't see what others are
    > saying, so the whole dialogue is lost. Dialogue is the whole point of these
    > groups so that one user may piggyback on the response of the other,
    > improving the quality of the responses you get ("wisdom of crowds" and all
    > that).
    >
    >
    > "Vista Novice" <VistaNovice@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:B232AAB8-C448-4A9E-9940-B583E099BF69@xxxxxx

    >> Summary: How do I get rid of that very annoying VGA icon at startup which
    >> covers everything below, can't be moved, and seems to stay there
    >> "forever"?
    >>
    >> Reference: 9/25/2007 2:34 AM PST posting by "Retired Bill" titled "VGA
    >> plug
    >> connector icon displays every bootup"
    >>
    >> "Cal Bear '66" said: "My monitor also displays the connection (DVI) when I
    >> boot up, or wakeup the monitor, but it disappears very quickly and there
    >> is
    >> also no option to turn it off. Perhaps there might be some option to
    >> shorten
    >> the length of time it is on
    >> screen, otherwise there is possibly nothing you can do about it and it
    >> does
    >> not
    >> interfere with performance in any way. Another idea is to see if the
    >> monitor
    >> has a setting that only allows the VGA connection to be used so that it
    >> will
    >> not
    >> search connections for a signal. Vista itself has no options or controls
    >> for
    >> this behavior. "
    >>
    >> I'm not sure what he meant by "disappears very quickly" but mine stays up
    >> there 45 seconds, possibly longer which seems like 5 minutes when you are
    >> trying to see the things underneath it. Also, regarding "it does not
    >> interfere with performance in any way", it does lengthen my startup time
    >> by a
    >> minute since I can not do anything until I can see what's under this icon
    >> which is very large (.75" x 2.5") and cannot be moved.
    >>
    >> Did someone figure out how to use "some option to shorten the length of
    >> time
    >> it is on the screen" or how "to see if the monitor has a setting that only
    >> allows the VGA connection to be used so that it will not search
    >> connections
    >> for a signal [whatever that means]"?
    >>
    >> Also it seems like it comes up multiple times. "Dwarf" explained that was
    >> because the screen resolution was being changed, somehow causing it to
    >> appear
    >> again. He also said: "You may be able to turn it off through the menu
    >> options on the monitor"
    >>
    >> Did someone figure out how to do this?
    >>
    >> I have a new 22" flatscreen Gateway monitor with a new Gateway desktop
    >> computer and strangely I don't remember this appearing when I first got
    >> and
    >> used my system. Perhaps I am noticing it more because I am using the
    >> Vista
    >> "sleep" and "hibernate" options more when I leave the computer and this
    >> icon
    >> appears when I restart again. It just seems to come up all the time and
    >> is
    >> slowly driving me crazy!!!!
    >>
    >> Did anyone find out how to get rid of it entirely, shorten its duration,
    >> make it appear only once, not multiple times, move it, or in any other way
    >> make it less annoying?
    >>
    >> Thanks for any help you can give.
    >> --
    >> Charlie, the Vista Novice
    >

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  6. #5


    Vista Novice Guest

    Re: Any way to zap that annoying VGA icon?

    Hi DP:

    Thanks for the "newbie advice", but I need more clarification on newsgroup
    protocol and message thread etiquette.

    "Looks like you took responses to an earlier message of yours". No, when I
    had this question I searched to see if it had already been been asked and
    answered. I found that 'Retired Bill' had asked a similar question on
    9/25/2007 - hence my "Reference" to his posting, ie. Reference: 9/25/2007
    2:34 AM PST posting by "Retired Bill" titled "VGA plug connector icon
    displays every bootup".

    People did give him a number of suggestions, but there was no posting of
    what worked (if anything) for him. My question was not answered, ie. "Did
    anyone find out how to get rid of it [the VGA icon] entirely, shorten its
    duration, make it appear only once, not multiple times, move it, or in any
    other way make it less annoying?" So I initially posted my question on his
    thread as "replies" to two people who made the best suggestions, ie. "Cal
    Bear '66" and "Dwarf".

    However, it then occurred to me that maybe people didn't continue to read
    old postings, so I posted my question as a new posting with the reference to
    his posting.

    So my questions to you regarding what I should have done are:

    1. Are you saying that people should post a new question in the reply thread
    of a closely related old question which someone else has posted rather than
    as a new question posted on its own under their name?

    2. Do people continue to read old postings to see if there are new
    questions posted there? If so, how do they know when new questions are
    posted there, ie. does this "chat room" software system highlight or sort new
    replies as well as newly posted questions to bring them to people's attention?

    [On a related note is that fact that there are 5 replies here, but none at
    my "reply" postings under "Retired Bill's" thread which seems to confirm my
    fear that people would not see and respond to my question there where I first
    posted it.]

    I am new here and want to do things properly, but I have noticed that people
    do seem to post redundant questions that have already been answered. I most
    noted this when I was looking for suggestions for the best security software
    to get for Vista and my new Gateway desktop and laptop computers under the
    "Security" discussion group. People seemed to keep asking the same questions
    even though answers had already been posted.

    I gave the reference to "Retired Bill's" question and the answers he got
    from "Dwarf" and "Cal Bear '66" to show what I already knew from them and
    that I had "done my homework" and looked for existing related postings.

    Do others agree I should have posted to "Retired Bill's" thread rather than
    starting my own thread? Thanks for the help in using this newsgroup
    community resource properly!

    --
    Charlie, the Vista Novice


    "DP" wrote:

    >
    > Advice to a newsgroup novice:
    > Try to keep your question in one message thread. Looks like you took
    > responses to an earlier message of yours and created a whole new topic out
    > of it.
    > Which means some people will be answering your old message and some will be
    > answering this one. Which means some responders won't see what others are
    > saying, so the whole dialogue is lost. Dialogue is the whole point of these
    > groups so that one user may piggyback on the response of the other,
    > improving the quality of the responses you get ("wisdom of crowds" and all
    > that).
    >
    >
    > "Vista Novice" <VistaNovice@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:B232AAB8-C448-4A9E-9940-B583E099BF69@xxxxxx

    > > Summary: How do I get rid of that very annoying VGA icon at startup which
    > > covers everything below, can't be moved, and seems to stay there
    > > "forever"?
    > >
    > > Reference: 9/25/2007 2:34 AM PST posting by "Retired Bill" titled "VGA
    > > plug
    > > connector icon displays every bootup"
    > >
    > > "Cal Bear '66" said: "My monitor also displays the connection (DVI) when I
    > > boot up, or wakeup the monitor, but it disappears very quickly and there
    > > is
    > > also no option to turn it off. Perhaps there might be some option to
    > > shorten
    > > the length of time it is on
    > > screen, otherwise there is possibly nothing you can do about it and it
    > > does
    > > not
    > > interfere with performance in any way. Another idea is to see if the
    > > monitor
    > > has a setting that only allows the VGA connection to be used so that it
    > > will
    > > not
    > > search connections for a signal. Vista itself has no options or controls
    > > for
    > > this behavior. "
    > >
    > > I'm not sure what he meant by "disappears very quickly" but mine stays up
    > > there 45 seconds, possibly longer which seems like 5 minutes when you are
    > > trying to see the things underneath it. Also, regarding "it does not
    > > interfere with performance in any way", it does lengthen my startup time
    > > by a
    > > minute since I can not do anything until I can see what's under this icon
    > > which is very large (.75" x 2.5") and cannot be moved.
    > >
    > > Did someone figure out how to use "some option to shorten the length of
    > > time
    > > it is on the screen" or how "to see if the monitor has a setting that only
    > > allows the VGA connection to be used so that it will not search
    > > connections
    > > for a signal [whatever that means]"?
    > >
    > > Also it seems like it comes up multiple times. "Dwarf" explained that was
    > > because the screen resolution was being changed, somehow causing it to
    > > appear
    > > again. He also said: "You may be able to turn it off through the menu
    > > options on the monitor"
    > >
    > > Did someone figure out how to do this?
    > >
    > > I have a new 22" flatscreen Gateway monitor with a new Gateway desktop
    > > computer and strangely I don't remember this appearing when I first got
    > > and
    > > used my system. Perhaps I am noticing it more because I am using the
    > > Vista
    > > "sleep" and "hibernate" options more when I leave the computer and this
    > > icon
    > > appears when I restart again. It just seems to come up all the time and
    > > is
    > > slowly driving me crazy!!!!
    > >
    > > Did anyone find out how to get rid of it entirely, shorten its duration,
    > > make it appear only once, not multiple times, move it, or in any other way
    > > make it less annoying?
    > >
    > > Thanks for any help you can give.
    > > --
    > > Charlie, the Vista Novice
    >
    >

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  7. #6


    Vista Novice Guest

    Re: Any way to zap that annoying VGA icon?

    Peter,

    Although interesting, this article seems confusing (and perhaps not quite
    relevant) to my case also. I read the short article on cross-posting vs.
    multi-posting, but that seems to apply to what group a new topic (thread?) is
    posted to. For example if I created a new topic like "Any way to zap that
    annoying VGA icon" (is that called a new "thread"?) and put the same posting
    under the "Windows Vista General Discussion" group and then also under the
    "Security" group that would be "multiposting". While if I posted it once but
    connected it to both the "General Discussion" and "Security" groups (I don't
    know how one does that), that would be "cross-posting".

    I did neither of those things. My postings are just under the single group
    "Windows Vista General Discussion". The relevant question is what topic
    thread should I be posting to? Should I have posted a new, but related
    question under someone else's old topic thread that closely relates to my
    topic or question (my concerns in that case being: will people see it there?,
    will they be as likely to respond to me there as to a new topic?, is that the
    appropriate protocol people are using in this medium?, etc.?) or should I
    post my own question as a new topic with its own thread?

    A related question is how should I make a "reference" to what I think is a
    relevant related topic, either my own posting or someone else's (that is
    really what a hypertext "link" is on the internet if you think about it). If
    I had a web site like "http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm" I could
    put information there and link to it from mutiple places (as I said that is
    what hypertext and the WWW are all about). Is there a mechanism in this
    newsgroup software to do that?

    An example of my prior topic postings (which so far number two under
    "Security") was one on 12/7/2007 "Is Spybot adding, not removing spyware". I
    got some very helpful responses to that, my first posting. I took some
    actions as a result of those suggestions to solve my problem. However, those
    actions seemed to result in a new problem. I was in a quandry as to whether
    I should post the new problem to the old thread since it was [weakly] related
    or post to a new topic thread since it was really a different problem.

    On 12/6/2007 I chose to post a new topic "Did I put a hole in my Trend Micro
    Security?". However, I felt the two topics should be linked. Lacking a
    hypertext link capability (or is there one?) I did two things to link the
    topics:

    (1) I put in a "reference" notation in my new topic to my old topic, ie
    "Reference: Posting by “Vista Novice” (me) on 11/7/2007 12:19 PM PST “Is
    Spybot adding rather than removing spyware?”

    (2) I put a "reference" under my old topic to my new topic, by adding a
    "reply" that said: "Please see my new post (12/6/2007 2:25 AM PST) 'Did I
    put a hole in my Trend Micro security wall?'

    Interestingly, I received no replies to the new topic, not even suggestions
    for where it should have been posted ;-)

    That adhoc reference method was the best I could think of. I definitely
    don't want to reinvent the wheel here, but I hadn't really seen references
    between topics in other Windows Vista Community postings I have looked at. I
    did see one "expert" on security who just seemed to "cut and paste" his same
    long response as a "reply" over and over again under multiple topics that
    seemed to ask the same or similar "what's the best Vista security software?"
    question. That seems pretty inefficient, there has to be a better way.

    Again, I'm new and on the learning curve of using this medium, so please
    forgive my ignorance. Thanks for your patience. By the way, Peter, the
    "Multiposting vs. Crossposting" article was quit interesting and will be
    useful to me in the future I'm sure. Thanks for helping educate me.
    --
    Charlie, the Vista Novice


    "Peter Foldes" wrote:

    > Best described as here below
    >
    > http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
    >
    > --
    > Peter
    >
    > Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
    > Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
    >
    > "DP" <nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%235fg6nVQIHA.4128@xxxxxx

    > >
    > > Advice to a newsgroup novice:
    > > Try to keep your question in one message thread. Looks like you took
    > > responses to an earlier message of yours and created a whole new topic out
    > > of it.
    > > Which means some people will be answering your old message and some will be
    > > answering this one. Which means some responders won't see what others are
    > > saying, so the whole dialogue is lost. Dialogue is the whole point of these
    > > groups so that one user may piggyback on the response of the other,
    > > improving the quality of the responses you get ("wisdom of crowds" and all
    > > that).
    > >
    > >
    > > "Vista Novice" <VistaNovice@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > > news:B232AAB8-C448-4A9E-9940-B583E099BF69@xxxxxx

    > >> Summary: How do I get rid of that very annoying VGA icon at startup which
    > >> covers everything below, can't be moved, and seems to stay there
    > >> "forever"?
    > >>
    > >> Reference: 9/25/2007 2:34 AM PST posting by "Retired Bill" titled "VGA
    > >> plug
    > >> connector icon displays every bootup"
    > >>
    > >> "Cal Bear '66" said: "My monitor also displays the connection (DVI) when I
    > >> boot up, or wakeup the monitor, but it disappears very quickly and there
    > >> is
    > >> also no option to turn it off. Perhaps there might be some option to
    > >> shorten
    > >> the length of time it is on
    > >> screen, otherwise there is possibly nothing you can do about it and it
    > >> does
    > >> not
    > >> interfere with performance in any way. Another idea is to see if the
    > >> monitor
    > >> has a setting that only allows the VGA connection to be used so that it
    > >> will
    > >> not
    > >> search connections for a signal. Vista itself has no options or controls
    > >> for
    > >> this behavior. "
    > >>
    > >> I'm not sure what he meant by "disappears very quickly" but mine stays up
    > >> there 45 seconds, possibly longer which seems like 5 minutes when you are
    > >> trying to see the things underneath it. Also, regarding "it does not
    > >> interfere with performance in any way", it does lengthen my startup time
    > >> by a
    > >> minute since I can not do anything until I can see what's under this icon
    > >> which is very large (.75" x 2.5") and cannot be moved.
    > >>
    > >> Did someone figure out how to use "some option to shorten the length of
    > >> time
    > >> it is on the screen" or how "to see if the monitor has a setting that only
    > >> allows the VGA connection to be used so that it will not search
    > >> connections
    > >> for a signal [whatever that means]"?
    > >>
    > >> Also it seems like it comes up multiple times. "Dwarf" explained that was
    > >> because the screen resolution was being changed, somehow causing it to
    > >> appear
    > >> again. He also said: "You may be able to turn it off through the menu
    > >> options on the monitor"
    > >>
    > >> Did someone figure out how to do this?
    > >>
    > >> I have a new 22" flatscreen Gateway monitor with a new Gateway desktop
    > >> computer and strangely I don't remember this appearing when I first got
    > >> and
    > >> used my system. Perhaps I am noticing it more because I am using the
    > >> Vista
    > >> "sleep" and "hibernate" options more when I leave the computer and this
    > >> icon
    > >> appears when I restart again. It just seems to come up all the time and
    > >> is
    > >> slowly driving me crazy!!!!
    > >>
    > >> Did anyone find out how to get rid of it entirely, shorten its duration,
    > >> make it appear only once, not multiple times, move it, or in any other way
    > >> make it less annoying?
    > >>
    > >> Thanks for any help you can give.
    > >> --
    > >> Charlie, the Vista Novice
    > >
    >

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  8. #7


    Vista Novice Guest

    Re: Any way to zap that annoying VGA icon?

    I do have the manual, which says "FPD2275W 22-inch Widescreen LCD Monitor".

    It has its own control panel in the form of "EzTouch menu buttons" up the
    side of the picture frame. It provides its own control functions, its own
    "help" and beginner's "tour" and must have its own cpu and software. I think
    it is pretty much its own little computer which can be used to display a
    picture from other kinds of input beside the output from my Gateway desktop
    computer tower. It even has its own USB ports, eg. that's where I have my
    mouse plugged in (I think it acts like a "USB hub" which then has a connector
    back to one of the tower's USB ports).

    The "specifications" page in the monitor manual lists 25 types of things
    from "Panel Size, to Pixel Pitch, to Dimensions, to Temperature, to
    Altitude"! While I know complete information is good when answering a
    question, I hesitate to give all 25 things.

    The specifications for "Connections and inputs" say:
    - Analog (VGA): 15-pin mini d-sub VGA
    - Digital (DVI-D): 24-pin DVD-D (supports 480p, 720p, and 1080i)
    Includes HDCP ()High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection)
    - Composite video
    - S-Video
    - Component Y Pb Pr (supports 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i)
    - AC power input
    - USB 2.0 B-type (input)
    - USB 2.0 A-type (output x4)

    The example specifications you gave seemed to include other things besides
    the monitor, eg. the cpu, speakers, etc. It that important?

    --
    Charlie, the Vista Novice


    "roy69" wrote:

    >
    > Give the model number of the monitor. Have you got the manual for it?
    >
    >
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  9. #8


    Vista Novice Guest

    Re: how to install an extra hdd?

    Maxtimi (and roy69)

    The message from Roy69 "List yourmotherboard..."

    and your reply: "I am using an Hp Pavilion a1730n..."

    which have the Subject: "How to Install an extra hdd?"

    somehow appear under my topic thread: "Subject: Any way to zap that annoying
    VGA icon?"

    Any idea how that happened? The only connection I can see is that roy69
    also posted a reply to my topic. Did the newsgroup software just hiccup?

    --
    Charlie, the Vista Novice


    "Maxtrimi" wrote:

    >
    > roy69;547954 Wrote:

    > > List your motherboard and what is connected to it at the moment.
    > > If you are using IDE drives, do not chain them with a cd or dvd drive.
    > > If you are using SATA then it will simply plug into an empty socket.
    > > Give us some more info and I will talk you through putting in a new
    > > drive.
    > > Ensure you have a spare power connector for it.
    > > You could go for an external drive if it is used for data as this will
    > > allow you to take it from machine to machine and is also a good backup
    > > option.
    >
    > I am using an Hp Pavilion a1730n
    > Athlon 64 X2 (W) 4600+ 2.4 GHz
    >
    > - 2000 MT/s (mega transfers/second)
    > - Socket AM2
    > *Motherboard*
    >
    >
    > - Manufacturer: Asus
    > - Motherboard Name: A8M2N-LA
    > - HP/Compaq motherboard name: NodusM3-GL8E
    > *Hard drive*
    >
    >
    > - 320 GB SATA
    > - 7200 rpm
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Tell me if you need more info and thanx for the help.
    >
    >
    > --
    > Maxtrimi
    >

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  10. #9


    DP Guest

    Re: Any way to zap that annoying VGA icon?


    "Vista Novice" <VistaNovice@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:52A8F8AB-3E16-4A30-8D00-3A494FB96388@xxxxxx

    > Hi DP:
    >
    > Thanks for the "newbie advice", but I need more clarification on newsgroup
    > protocol and message thread etiquette.
    >
    > "Looks like you took responses to an earlier message of yours". No, when
    > I
    > had this question I searched to see if it had already been been asked and
    > answered. I found that 'Retired Bill' had asked a similar question on
    > 9/25/2007 - hence my "Reference" to his posting, ie. Reference: 9/25/2007
    > 2:34 AM PST posting by "Retired Bill" titled "VGA plug connector icon
    > displays every bootup".

    Ah... Sorry. My misunderstanding.

    As for the rest of your questions/points below, I think you will find that
    people technically access this newsgroup in a variety of ways. When I say
    "technically" I mean the actual method they use to read posts. I use Windows
    Mail. Before that, I read newsgroups with Outlook Express.
    There are people here who will recommend a variety of newsreaders for
    newsgroups.
    Others access this newsgroup via a website.
    The thing is, each technique for accessing newsgroup renders different
    results in how the messages are viewed etc etc.

    The other thing is you probably will find just as much variation in how and
    why people read and respond to messages.
    There are dedicated folks here who read EVERY message and attempt to offer
    help WHENEVER they can. God bless them. The more you access this newsgroup,
    the more you will see their names and appreciate the effort they put into
    their answers.
    I tend to be a more casual reader of this and other newsgroups. I try to
    help when I can, but honestly, I am not a judicious follower of these groups
    in terms of making sure that everything I post has not been responded to etc
    etc.
    You may also find people who pop in here, ask a question or offer a response
    to a question and then never show up again.

    Bottom line is I guess this newsgroup is like herding cats. We might be
    able to get most of the cats to go in the same general direction and
    actually make a little bit of progress in our journey, but it's a messy
    disorganized process.

    (And then of course, there are the folks who like to use this ng just to
    provoke others, call each other names etc etc. That adds an inordinate
    number of posts to this group and complicates everything.)




    >
    > People did give him a number of suggestions, but there was no posting of
    > what worked (if anything) for him. My question was not answered, ie. "Did
    > anyone find out how to get rid of it [the VGA icon] entirely, shorten its
    > duration, make it appear only once, not multiple times, move it, or in any
    > other way make it less annoying?" So I initially posted my question on
    > his
    > thread as "replies" to two people who made the best suggestions, ie. "Cal
    > Bear '66" and "Dwarf".
    >
    > However, it then occurred to me that maybe people didn't continue to read
    > old postings, so I posted my question as a new posting with the reference
    > to
    > his posting.
    >
    > So my questions to you regarding what I should have done are:
    >
    > 1. Are you saying that people should post a new question in the reply
    > thread
    > of a closely related old question which someone else has posted rather
    > than
    > as a new question posted on its own under their name?
    >
    > 2. Do people continue to read old postings to see if there are new
    > questions posted there? If so, how do they know when new questions are
    > posted there, ie. does this "chat room" software system highlight or sort
    > new
    > replies as well as newly posted questions to bring them to people's
    > attention?
    >
    > [On a related note is that fact that there are 5 replies here, but none at
    > my "reply" postings under "Retired Bill's" thread which seems to confirm
    > my
    > fear that people would not see and respond to my question there where I
    > first
    > posted it.]
    >
    > I am new here and want to do things properly, but I have noticed that
    > people
    > do seem to post redundant questions that have already been answered. I
    > most
    > noted this when I was looking for suggestions for the best security
    > software
    > to get for Vista and my new Gateway desktop and laptop computers under the
    > "Security" discussion group. People seemed to keep asking the same
    > questions
    > even though answers had already been posted.
    >
    > I gave the reference to "Retired Bill's" question and the answers he got
    > from "Dwarf" and "Cal Bear '66" to show what I already knew from them and
    > that I had "done my homework" and looked for existing related postings.
    >
    > Do others agree I should have posted to "Retired Bill's" thread rather
    > than
    > starting my own thread? Thanks for the help in using this newsgroup
    > community resource properly!
    >
    > --
    > Charlie, the Vista Novice
    >
    >
    > "DP" wrote:
    >

    >>
    >> Advice to a newsgroup novice:
    >> Try to keep your question in one message thread. Looks like you took
    >> responses to an earlier message of yours and created a whole new topic
    >> out
    >> of it.
    >> Which means some people will be answering your old message and some will
    >> be
    >> answering this one. Which means some responders won't see what others are
    >> saying, so the whole dialogue is lost. Dialogue is the whole point of
    >> these
    >> groups so that one user may piggyback on the response of the other,
    >> improving the quality of the responses you get ("wisdom of crowds" and
    >> all
    >> that).
    >>
    >>
    >> "Vista Novice" <VistaNovice@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    >> news:B232AAB8-C448-4A9E-9940-B583E099BF69@xxxxxx

    >> > Summary: How do I get rid of that very annoying VGA icon at startup
    >> > which
    >> > covers everything below, can't be moved, and seems to stay there
    >> > "forever"?
    >> >
    >> > Reference: 9/25/2007 2:34 AM PST posting by "Retired Bill" titled "VGA
    >> > plug
    >> > connector icon displays every bootup"
    >> >
    >> > "Cal Bear '66" said: "My monitor also displays the connection (DVI)
    >> > when I
    >> > boot up, or wakeup the monitor, but it disappears very quickly and
    >> > there
    >> > is
    >> > also no option to turn it off. Perhaps there might be some option to
    >> > shorten
    >> > the length of time it is on
    >> > screen, otherwise there is possibly nothing you can do about it and it
    >> > does
    >> > not
    >> > interfere with performance in any way. Another idea is to see if the
    >> > monitor
    >> > has a setting that only allows the VGA connection to be used so that it
    >> > will
    >> > not
    >> > search connections for a signal. Vista itself has no options or
    >> > controls
    >> > for
    >> > this behavior. "
    >> >
    >> > I'm not sure what he meant by "disappears very quickly" but mine stays
    >> > up
    >> > there 45 seconds, possibly longer which seems like 5 minutes when you
    >> > are
    >> > trying to see the things underneath it. Also, regarding "it does not
    >> > interfere with performance in any way", it does lengthen my startup
    >> > time
    >> > by a
    >> > minute since I can not do anything until I can see what's under this
    >> > icon
    >> > which is very large (.75" x 2.5") and cannot be moved.
    >> >
    >> > Did someone figure out how to use "some option to shorten the length of
    >> > time
    >> > it is on the screen" or how "to see if the monitor has a setting that
    >> > only
    >> > allows the VGA connection to be used so that it will not search
    >> > connections
    >> > for a signal [whatever that means]"?
    >> >
    >> > Also it seems like it comes up multiple times. "Dwarf" explained that
    >> > was
    >> > because the screen resolution was being changed, somehow causing it to
    >> > appear
    >> > again. He also said: "You may be able to turn it off through the menu
    >> > options on the monitor"
    >> >
    >> > Did someone figure out how to do this?
    >> >
    >> > I have a new 22" flatscreen Gateway monitor with a new Gateway desktop
    >> > computer and strangely I don't remember this appearing when I first got
    >> > and
    >> > used my system. Perhaps I am noticing it more because I am using the
    >> > Vista
    >> > "sleep" and "hibernate" options more when I leave the computer and this
    >> > icon
    >> > appears when I restart again. It just seems to come up all the time
    >> > and
    >> > is
    >> > slowly driving me crazy!!!!
    >> >
    >> > Did anyone find out how to get rid of it entirely, shorten its
    >> > duration,
    >> > make it appear only once, not multiple times, move it, or in any other
    >> > way
    >> > make it less annoying?
    >> >
    >> > Thanks for any help you can give.
    >> > --
    >> > Charlie, the Vista Novice
    >>
    >>

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  11. #10


    Vista Novice Guest

    Re: Any way to zap that annoying VGA icon?


    "DP" wrote:

    > As for the rest of your questions/points below, ....
    Hi DP:
    Thanks for taking the time to educate me and answer my questions about
    proper posting to a newsgroup.

    <snip> see I learn about this from "the art of quoting"

    > Others access this newsgroup via a website.
    > The thing is, each technique for accessing newsgroup renders different
    > results in how the messages are viewed etc etc.
    >
    I had only accessed the "Windows Vista Community: Discussion Group" through
    the Microsoft website (accessed in Vista by clicking "Windows Help and
    Support", then "Ask soneone else", then "Windows Communities"). I didn't
    even know that this was a kind of newsgroup or that there were many methods
    of access including email. Since then, prompted by your explanations I have
    read a bit more about other kinds of access, and about subtle details to
    handle all readers:
    - like hitting a return (enter) every 60-70 characters since not all
    readers do line wrap.
    - putting a blank line between a quoted message and your reply since some
    readers need this separator.
    - making sure there is a "-- " before your signature which lets the reader
    remove the signature lines.
    - the pros and cons of "top posting"; Microsoft newsgroups and modern
    email systems encourage this by starting you at the top for your reply (they
    automatically put your signature there at the top), but traditionalists,
    newsgroup experts, etc. argue against it. I noted that you didn't top post,
    and this is my first attempt at the technique of: quote 1, reply1, quote2,
    reply2 which some experts recommend. Per "roy69" reference to
    www.blakjak.demon.co.uk I read:

    "How to Post to the Net" by Dani K and Susan Edkins
    "How to Flame on the Net" by Dani K and Susan Edkins
    "The Twelve Commandments of Flaming" on Usenet by Dani K
    "Multiposting vs Crossposting" by David Stevenson
    "Using Outlook Express to post to Newsgroups" by Sid Ismail, South Africa
    "How not to post to the Net!" 
    "Top Posting" by David Stevenson
    "Upsidedown Posting" by Richard Christopher, Dorking, Surrey, UK

    > The other thing is you probably will find just as much variation in how and
    > why people read and respond to messages.
    > There are dedicated folks...
    <snip>

    >Bottom line is I guess this newsgroup is like herding cats.
    I love this herding cats analogy, very descriptive (to anyone who knows cats).

    >(And then of course, there are the folks who like to use this ng just to
    >provoke others, call each other names etc etc.
    <snip>


    See the above:
    "How to Flame on the Net" by Dani K and Susan Edkins
    "The Twelve Commandments of Flaming on Usenet" by Dani K
    Very funny.

    --
    Charlie, the Vista Novice

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