Vista - 10 things that sux about Vista

Might help posting what the version # is of this Vista you used.

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Jason

Applied but still waiting to be accepted for the Vista Beta Testing group.
Can't wait to be able to play and help make it even better.

http://www.orderpcs4free.com/?r=878

MS Windows XP Pro, IE 7.0.5335.5 Beta 2


"Jared" <jared@velocitynet1.com.au> wrote in message
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> 1. Windows Security dialog box
>
> 2. Program compatibility Assistant dialog box
>
> 3. explorer CPU usage
>
> 4. Drivers all failed to install
>
> 5. No treview in explorer window
>
> 6. Possibly no option to disable system restore
>
> 7. No shortcut for 'Windows Mail'
>
> 8. Can't sleep hard disks after idle time
>
> 9. No magneta in mspaint
>
> 10. 7.5 gig after clean install
>

1. Windows Security dialog box
Still a work in progress, actually, I think it has gotten worst in build
5365, I don't like that it tints the screen when a particular program
requires that it be allowed before it executes. On top of that, it does not
take advantage of DWM.

2. Program compatibility Assistant dialog box
What are you talking about? Is it the one accessible from the properties of
the executable under the Comptability tab?

3. explorer CPU usage
Its not that bad in BETA 2 and will continue to be fixed as the beta
progresses, remember, we are still at BETA 1/Interim releases regardless you
see that build tag saying beta 2.

4. Drivers all failed to install
Well, this is your opportunity to start contacting the manufacturers of
those devices and also submit feedback using the Microsoft BETA Client to
ensure that at least by RTM you will have available drivers or BETA ones to
utilize your hardware.

5. No treview in explorer window
Its in 5365 and list view is coming back in RC1 I think.

6. Possibly no option to disable system restore
Yes you can, Click Start > right click Computer > under Task, click the
"Advance System Settings" link > select the System Restore (tab) > under
"Automatic Restore Points" uncheck the box for the drive on which Vista
installed. You can remove existing restore points except the last one using
Disk Clean up.

7. No shortcut for 'Windows Mail'
You mean after installing Microsoft Office? I think this one is a known
issue, you can place shortcut though on the menu by naviagating to
x:\program files\Windows Mail > right click the WinMail icon > select Send
To: > Desktop. You can then drag it to the Start button and it will appear
on the Start Menu Panel.

8. Can't sleep hard disks after idle time
Well, I don't know which build of Vista you are using, it possible you might
need a BIOS update. Options to turn off your hard disk and display are
available under Control Panel > Power Options > Edit Plan Settings. It works
for me. Did not in build 5112 and 5219.

9. No magneta in mspaint
Open Paint, click the Colors drop down menu > on the Edit Colors dialogue >
click "Define Custom Colors: > create your Magenta > click Add to Custom
Colors.

10. 7.5 gig after clean install
This is like the Moores Law of Windows, new versions of Windows will always
require more hard disk space. Have you checked out OS X and Linux, not to
mention Unix? They eat considerable amounts of disk space if you were to
install the entire contents of their disk. Also, I think Windows Vista BETA
has some debugged code that might be removed before RTM which will reduce
the space required.
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"Jared" <jared@velocitynet1.com.au> wrote in message
news:%23cFhL6zZGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> 1. Windows Security dialog box
>
> 2. Program compatibility Assistant dialog box
>
> 3. explorer CPU usage
>
> 4. Drivers all failed to install
>
> 5. No treview in explorer window
>
> 6. Possibly no option to disable system restore
>
> 7. No shortcut for 'Windows Mail'
>
> 8. Can't sleep hard disks after idle time
>
> 9. No magneta in mspaint
>
> 10. 7.5 gig after clean install
>

Yeah....XP needed 1.5Gigs....
Can someone tell me why vista got so bloated?


"Jared" <jared@velocitynet1.com.au> wrote in message
news:%23cFhL6zZGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> 1. Windows Security dialog box
>
> 2. Program compatibility Assistant dialog box
>
> 3. explorer CPU usage
>
> 4. Drivers all failed to install
>
> 5. No treview in explorer window
>
> 6. Possibly no option to disable system restore
>
> 7. No shortcut for 'Windows Mail'
>
> 8. Can't sleep hard disks after idle time
>
> 9. No magneta in mspaint
>
> 10. 7.5 gig after clean install
>

Hey,

Yeah and of course it would depend on what version you install.

Take Care,

Will

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:umk1VJ0ZGHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> 1. Windows Security dialog box
> Still a work in progress, actually, I think it has gotten worst in build
> 5365, I don't like that it tints the screen when a particular program
> requires that it be allowed before it executes. On top of that, it does
> not take advantage of DWM.
>
> 2. Program compatibility Assistant dialog box
> What are you talking about? Is it the one accessible from the properties
> of the executable under the Comptability tab?
>
> 3. explorer CPU usage
> Its not that bad in BETA 2 and will continue to be fixed as the beta
> progresses, remember, we are still at BETA 1/Interim releases regardless
> you see that build tag saying beta 2.
>
> 4. Drivers all failed to install
> Well, this is your opportunity to start contacting the manufacturers of
> those devices and also submit feedback using the Microsoft BETA Client to
> ensure that at least by RTM you will have available drivers or BETA ones
> to utilize your hardware.
>
> 5. No treview in explorer window
> Its in 5365 and list view is coming back in RC1 I think.
>
> 6. Possibly no option to disable system restore
> Yes you can, Click Start > right click Computer > under Task, click the
> "Advance System Settings" link > select the System Restore (tab) > under
> "Automatic Restore Points" uncheck the box for the drive on which Vista
> installed. You can remove existing restore points except the last one
> using Disk Clean up.
>
> 7. No shortcut for 'Windows Mail'
> You mean after installing Microsoft Office? I think this one is a known
> issue, you can place shortcut though on the menu by naviagating to
> x:\program files\Windows Mail > right click the WinMail icon > select Send
> To: > Desktop. You can then drag it to the Start button and it will appear
> on the Start Menu Panel.
>
> 8. Can't sleep hard disks after idle time
> Well, I don't know which build of Vista you are using, it possible you
> might need a BIOS update. Options to turn off your hard disk and display
> are available under Control Panel > Power Options > Edit Plan Settings. It
> works for me. Did not in build 5112 and 5219.
>
> 9. No magneta in mspaint
> Open Paint, click the Colors drop down menu > on the Edit Colors dialogue
> > click "Define Custom Colors: > create your Magenta > click Add to Custom
> Colors.
>
> 10. 7.5 gig after clean install
> This is like the Moores Law of Windows, new versions of Windows will
> always require more hard disk space. Have you checked out OS X and Linux,
> not to mention Unix? They eat considerable amounts of disk space if you
> were to install the entire contents of their disk. Also, I think Windows
> Vista BETA has some debugged code that might be removed before RTM which
> will reduce the space required.
> --
> --
> Andre
> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>
> "Jared" <jared@velocitynet1.com.au> wrote in message
> news:%23cFhL6zZGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> 1. Windows Security dialog box
>>
>> 2. Program compatibility Assistant dialog box
>>
>> 3. explorer CPU usage
>>
>> 4. Drivers all failed to install
>>
>> 5. No treview in explorer window
>>
>> 6. Possibly no option to disable system restore
>>
>> 7. No shortcut for 'Windows Mail'
>>
>> 8. Can't sleep hard disks after idle time
>>
>> 9. No magneta in mspaint
>>
>> 10. 7.5 gig after clean install
>>
>
>

HEY! Wait a minute!!!!
Even the most super duper linux distros can be installed on 2 Gig or less,
all the rest of the space in linux is for the thousands off applications
that come along with the OS!

If you select the barebone OS you can probably install linux on 500 - 800
mb!
Ill give you another 200 for a text editor (like wordpad), an outdated lame
paint program (like ms paint)
a calculator, a media player, a browser and a few other basic apps.

Even MacOSX if I can recall installs on less than 2 gigs....




"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:umk1VJ0ZGHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> 1. Windows Security dialog box
> Still a work in progress, actually, I think it has gotten worst in build
> 5365, I don't like that it tints the screen when a particular program
> requires that it be allowed before it executes. On top of that, it does
> not take advantage of DWM.
>
> 2. Program compatibility Assistant dialog box
> What are you talking about? Is it the one accessible from the properties
> of the executable under the Comptability tab?
>
> 3. explorer CPU usage
> Its not that bad in BETA 2 and will continue to be fixed as the beta
> progresses, remember, we are still at BETA 1/Interim releases regardless
> you see that build tag saying beta 2.
>
> 4. Drivers all failed to install
> Well, this is your opportunity to start contacting the manufacturers of
> those devices and also submit feedback using the Microsoft BETA Client to
> ensure that at least by RTM you will have available drivers or BETA ones
> to utilize your hardware.
>
> 5. No treview in explorer window
> Its in 5365 and list view is coming back in RC1 I think.
>
> 6. Possibly no option to disable system restore
> Yes you can, Click Start > right click Computer > under Task, click the
> "Advance System Settings" link > select the System Restore (tab) > under
> "Automatic Restore Points" uncheck the box for the drive on which Vista
> installed. You can remove existing restore points except the last one
> using Disk Clean up.
>
> 7. No shortcut for 'Windows Mail'
> You mean after installing Microsoft Office? I think this one is a known
> issue, you can place shortcut though on the menu by naviagating to
> x:\program files\Windows Mail > right click the WinMail icon > select Send
> To: > Desktop. You can then drag it to the Start button and it will appear
> on the Start Menu Panel.
>
> 8. Can't sleep hard disks after idle time
> Well, I don't know which build of Vista you are using, it possible you
> might need a BIOS update. Options to turn off your hard disk and display
> are available under Control Panel > Power Options > Edit Plan Settings. It
> works for me. Did not in build 5112 and 5219.
>
> 9. No magneta in mspaint
> Open Paint, click the Colors drop down menu > on the Edit Colors dialogue
> > click "Define Custom Colors: > create your Magenta > click Add to Custom
> Colors.
>
> 10. 7.5 gig after clean install
> This is like the Moores Law of Windows, new versions of Windows will
> always require more hard disk space. Have you checked out OS X and Linux,
> not to mention Unix? They eat considerable amounts of disk space if you
> were to install the entire contents of their disk. Also, I think Windows
> Vista BETA has some debugged code that might be removed before RTM which
> will reduce the space required.
> --
> --
> Andre
> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>
> "Jared" <jared@velocitynet1.com.au> wrote in message
> news:%23cFhL6zZGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> 1. Windows Security dialog box
>>
>> 2. Program compatibility Assistant dialog box
>>
>> 3. explorer CPU usage
>>
>> 4. Drivers all failed to install
>>
>> 5. No treview in explorer window
>>
>> 6. Possibly no option to disable system restore
>>
>> 7. No shortcut for 'Windows Mail'
>>
>> 8. Can't sleep hard disks after idle time
>>
>> 9. No magneta in mspaint
>>
>> 10. 7.5 gig after clean install
>>
>
>

I gave my answer in the previous reply I made to this post.
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"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
news:%23CarTO0ZGHA.3524@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> HEY! Wait a minute!!!!
> Even the most super duper linux distros can be installed on 2 Gig or
> less,
> all the rest of the space in linux is for the thousands off applications
> that come along with the OS!
>
> If you select the barebone OS you can probably install linux on 500 - 800
> mb!
> Ill give you another 200 for a text editor (like wordpad), an outdated
> lame paint program (like ms paint)
> a calculator, a media player, a browser and a few other basic apps.
>
> Even MacOSX if I can recall installs on less than 2 gigs....
>
>
>
>
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:umk1VJ0ZGHA.3328@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> 1. Windows Security dialog box
>> Still a work in progress, actually, I think it has gotten worst in build
>> 5365, I don't like that it tints the screen when a particular program
>> requires that it be allowed before it executes. On top of that, it does
>> not take advantage of DWM.
>>
>> 2. Program compatibility Assistant dialog box
>> What are you talking about? Is it the one accessible from the properties
>> of the executable under the Comptability tab?
>>
>> 3. explorer CPU usage
>> Its not that bad in BETA 2 and will continue to be fixed as the beta
>> progresses, remember, we are still at BETA 1/Interim releases regardless
>> you see that build tag saying beta 2.
>>
>> 4. Drivers all failed to install
>> Well, this is your opportunity to start contacting the manufacturers of
>> those devices and also submit feedback using the Microsoft BETA Client to
>> ensure that at least by RTM you will have available drivers or BETA ones
>> to utilize your hardware.
>>
>> 5. No treview in explorer window
>> Its in 5365 and list view is coming back in RC1 I think.
>>
>> 6. Possibly no option to disable system restore
>> Yes you can, Click Start > right click Computer > under Task, click the
>> "Advance System Settings" link > select the System Restore (tab) > under
>> "Automatic Restore Points" uncheck the box for the drive on which Vista
>> installed. You can remove existing restore points except the last one
>> using Disk Clean up.
>>
>> 7. No shortcut for 'Windows Mail'
>> You mean after installing Microsoft Office? I think this one is a known
>> issue, you can place shortcut though on the menu by naviagating to
>> x:\program files\Windows Mail > right click the WinMail icon > select
>> Send To: > Desktop. You can then drag it to the Start button and it will
>> appear on the Start Menu Panel.
>>
>> 8. Can't sleep hard disks after idle time
>> Well, I don't know which build of Vista you are using, it possible you
>> might need a BIOS update. Options to turn off your hard disk and display
>> are available under Control Panel > Power Options > Edit Plan Settings.
>> It works for me. Did not in build 5112 and 5219.
>>
>> 9. No magneta in mspaint
>> Open Paint, click the Colors drop down menu > on the Edit Colors dialogue
>> > click "Define Custom Colors: > create your Magenta > click Add to
>> Custom Colors.
>>
>> 10. 7.5 gig after clean install
>> This is like the Moores Law of Windows, new versions of Windows will
>> always require more hard disk space. Have you checked out OS X and Linux,
>> not to mention Unix? They eat considerable amounts of disk space if you
>> were to install the entire contents of their disk. Also, I think Windows
>> Vista BETA has some debugged code that might be removed before RTM which
>> will reduce the space required.
>> --
>> --
>> Andre
>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>
>> "Jared" <jared@velocitynet1.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:%23cFhL6zZGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> 1. Windows Security dialog box
>>>
>>> 2. Program compatibility Assistant dialog box
>>>
>>> 3. explorer CPU usage
>>>
>>> 4. Drivers all failed to install
>>>
>>> 5. No treview in explorer window
>>>
>>> 6. Possibly no option to disable system restore
>>>
>>> 7. No shortcut for 'Windows Mail'
>>>
>>> 8. Can't sleep hard disks after idle time
>>>
>>> 9. No magneta in mspaint
>>>
>>> 10. 7.5 gig after clean install
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

More features, requires more space.
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"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
news:u9q7yK0ZGHA.4292@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Yeah....XP needed 1.5Gigs....
> Can someone tell me why vista got so bloated?
>
>
> "Jared" <jared@velocitynet1.com.au> wrote in message
> news:%23cFhL6zZGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> 1. Windows Security dialog box
>>
>> 2. Program compatibility Assistant dialog box
>>
>> 3. explorer CPU usage
>>
>> 4. Drivers all failed to install
>>
>> 5. No treview in explorer window
>>
>> 6. Possibly no option to disable system restore
>>
>> 7. No shortcut for 'Windows Mail'
>>
>> 8. Can't sleep hard disks after idle time
>>
>> 9. No magneta in mspaint
>>
>> 10. 7.5 gig after clean install
>>
>
>

John Jay Smith wrote:
> Yeah....XP needed 1.5Gigs....
> Can someone tell me why vista got so bloated?
>
>
> "Jared" <jared@velocitynet1.com.au> wrote in message
> news:%23cFhL6zZGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>>1. Windows Security dialog box
>>
>>2. Program compatibility Assistant dialog box
>>
>>3. explorer CPU usage
>>
>>4. Drivers all failed to install
>>
>>5. No treview in explorer window
>>
>>6. Possibly no option to disable system restore
>>
>>7. No shortcut for 'Windows Mail'
>>
>>8. Can't sleep hard disks after idle time
>>
>>9. No magneta in mspaint
>>
>>10. 7.5 gig after clean install
>>
>
>
>
Gas?
Frank

> Yeah....XP needed 1.5Gigs....
> Can someone tell me why vista got so bloated?

Are debug symbols embedded in these builds?

I've got OS X installed on an ORIGINAL (circa '98) iMac that only has a 4 GB
hard drive installed and even with lots of apps, personal files, etc, I
still have 1.5 GB available on the drive.

7.5 GB is insane. The space shuttle doesn't need that much code!



"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
news:u9q7yK0ZGHA.4292@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Yeah....XP needed 1.5Gigs....
> Can someone tell me why vista got so bloated?
>
>
> "Jared" <jared@velocitynet1.com.au> wrote in message
> news:%23cFhL6zZGHA.3652@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> 1. Windows Security dialog box
>>
>> 2. Program compatibility Assistant dialog box
>>
>> 3. explorer CPU usage
>>
>> 4. Drivers all failed to install
>>
>> 5. No treview in explorer window
>>
>> 6. Possibly no option to disable system restore
>>
>> 7. No shortcut for 'Windows Mail'
>>
>> 8. Can't sleep hard disks after idle time
>>
>> 9. No magneta in mspaint
>>
>> 10. 7.5 gig after clean install
>>
>
>