Vista - Vista Locked Up Tight - No Forward, No Reverse - Just a Square Whe

Vista was working pretty good yesterday 7/17/06. Today, it received an
automatic update. All networking & internet functions just stopped dead.

Rebooted twice. No help. Tried System Restore. There were no previous
restore points. The system rebooted itself and came back up to a light blue
screen with nothing but the build info on it. Now instead of BSOD, we have
the LBSOD which is an improvement, since you get no useless message telling
you the computer is deadmeat.

Tried restoring from DVD. All went nice for a while, but then it just said
"There is a problem that can't be fixed by restore.

Fine. I'll just reinstall from scratch. All went nice for a while. Then
it just said "There was a problem and install failed."

So, now there is no way to restore, reinstall, re-anything that I can think
of.

I suppose I could format the partition, but then, could I re-activate since
my activation date is passed.

I think Redmond has booted me out of the Beta club.

John

Well. That's no good. Your activation date hasn't passed, only the
application date for the CPP, and you have 14 days from the installation
point to activate, so you're okay there. But this is certainly curious
behaviour. What possibly could not be fixed by a reinstall? Is there
anyway to pull out what update was applied and post it?

Also, in the future, of course, if you are dual-booting with XP, both O/S's
use volsnap.sys with regards to the restore points, and XP deletes the ones
it didn't make. Either encrypt the Vista system partition with BitLocker
(Thanks MICHAEL) or hide the Vista system partition from XP with a
partitioning tool and the points will stay.

--
Ted Stevens taught me everything I know about putting internets in tubes...


"Kansas John" <KansasJohn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CE8DD1E2-C100-4425-A4B2-1781F6D3F57A@microsoft.com...
> Vista was working pretty good yesterday 7/17/06. Today, it received an
> automatic update. All networking & internet functions just stopped dead.
>
> Rebooted twice. No help. Tried System Restore. There were no previous
> restore points. The system rebooted itself and came back up to a light
> blue
> screen with nothing but the build info on it. Now instead of BSOD, we
> have
> the LBSOD which is an improvement, since you get no useless message
> telling
> you the computer is deadmeat.
>
> Tried restoring from DVD. All went nice for a while, but then it just
> said
> "There is a problem that can't be fixed by restore.
>
> Fine. I'll just reinstall from scratch. All went nice for a while. Then
> it just said "There was a problem and install failed."
>
> So, now there is no way to restore, reinstall, re-anything that I can
> think
> of.
>
> I suppose I could format the partition, but then, could I re-activate
> since
> my activation date is passed.
>
> I think Redmond has booted me out of the Beta club.
>
> John
>
>

Whoops! My fault (sort of). I didn't realize Vista was still in the restore
process when it rebooted and displayed the LBSOD. Actually it fixed itself
and the internet and network came back on fine.

Mark me down for one bloober.

John

"Kansas John" wrote:

> Vista was working pretty good yesterday 7/17/06. Today, it received an
> automatic update. All networking & internet functions just stopped dead.
>
> Rebooted twice. No help. Tried System Restore. There were no previous
> restore points. The system rebooted itself and came back up to a light blue
> screen with nothing but the build info on it. Now instead of BSOD, we have
> the LBSOD which is an improvement, since you get no useless message telling
> you the computer is deadmeat.
>
> Tried restoring from DVD. All went nice for a while, but then it just said
> "There is a problem that can't be fixed by restore.
>
> Fine. I'll just reinstall from scratch. All went nice for a while. Then
> it just said "There was a problem and install failed."
>
> So, now there is no way to restore, reinstall, re-anything that I can think
> of.
>
> I suppose I could format the partition, but then, could I re-activate since
> my activation date is passed.
>
> I think Redmond has booted me out of the Beta club.
>
> John
>
>

Well now I'm not so sure it WAS my fault. I have been through a bunch of
RESTOREs and UDATE REMOVALS and nothing seems to really help. I can get on
the network and the web immediately after a restore, and I can get on UPDATE
WINDOWS. I tried blocking updates altogether . . . no help. Whenever I
restart the computer from something that was working, it goes into its
braindead condition again.

It has something to do with UPDATE and NETWORK, but only Redmond knows.



"Kansas John" wrote:

> Whoops! My fault (sort of). I didn't realize Vista was still in the restore
> process when it rebooted and displayed the LBSOD. Actually it fixed itself
> and the internet and network came back on fine.
>
> Mark me down for one bloober.
>
> John
>
> "Kansas John" wrote:
>
> > Vista was working pretty good yesterday 7/17/06. Today, it received an
> > automatic update. All networking & internet functions just stopped dead.
> >
> > Rebooted twice. No help. Tried System Restore. There were no previous
> > restore points. The system rebooted itself and came back up to a light blue
> > screen with nothing but the build info on it. Now instead of BSOD, we have
> > the LBSOD which is an improvement, since you get no useless message telling
> > you the computer is deadmeat.
> >
> > Tried restoring from DVD. All went nice for a while, but then it just said
> > "There is a problem that can't be fixed by restore.
> >
> > Fine. I'll just reinstall from scratch. All went nice for a while. Then
> > it just said "There was a problem and install failed."
> >
> > So, now there is no way to restore, reinstall, re-anything that I can think
> > of.
> >
> > I suppose I could format the partition, but then, could I re-activate since
> > my activation date is passed.
> >
> > I think Redmond has booted me out of the Beta club.
> >
> > John
> >
> >

It is going from bad to worse. My problem may be this old motherboard which
has an incompatible PCI Input device driver. Maybe not.

About the dual boot . . . I haven't booted XP since this problem started, so
it's not XP deleting the volsnap.sys file.

I have tried rolling back updates when able to get the update program to
function (which is once in a great blue moon). Usually it just pops it's
window frame up there and looks at me waiting for the 3-finger salute.

Thought there might be a conflict with Computer Associates security package.
Wiped that off. No help.

Interestingly, I can boot safe with network support and at least get to the
internet and my network drives but update will not even pop its window frame
up. You used to be able to uninstall updates with program uninstaller, but
no more.

I hope Microsoft realizes how much blood sweat and tears is going into this
Beta thing.





"Mark D. VandenBerg" wrote:

> Well. That's no good. Your activation date hasn't passed, only the
> application date for the CPP, and you have 14 days from the installation
> point to activate, so you're okay there. But this is certainly curious
> behaviour. What possibly could not be fixed by a reinstall? Is there
> anyway to pull out what update was applied and post it?
>
> Also, in the future, of course, if you are dual-booting with XP, both O/S's
> use volsnap.sys with regards to the restore points, and XP deletes the ones
> it didn't make. Either encrypt the Vista system partition with BitLocker
> (Thanks MICHAEL) or hide the Vista system partition from XP with a
> partitioning tool and the points will stay.
>
> --
> Ted Stevens taught me everything I know about putting internets in tubes...
>
>
> "Kansas John" <KansasJohn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CE8DD1E2-C100-4425-A4B2-1781F6D3F57A@microsoft.com...
> > Vista was working pretty good yesterday 7/17/06. Today, it received an
> > automatic update. All networking & internet functions just stopped dead.
> >
> > Rebooted twice. No help. Tried System Restore. There were no previous
> > restore points. The system rebooted itself and came back up to a light
> > blue
> > screen with nothing but the build info on it. Now instead of BSOD, we
> > have
> > the LBSOD which is an improvement, since you get no useless message
> > telling
> > you the computer is deadmeat.
> >
> > Tried restoring from DVD. All went nice for a while, but then it just
> > said
> > "There is a problem that can't be fixed by restore.
> >
> > Fine. I'll just reinstall from scratch. All went nice for a while. Then
> > it just said "There was a problem and install failed."
> >
> > So, now there is no way to restore, reinstall, re-anything that I can
> > think
> > of.
> >
> > I suppose I could format the partition, but then, could I re-activate
> > since
> > my activation date is passed.
> >
> > I think Redmond has booted me out of the Beta club.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
>
>

I uninstalled Computer Associates security software which comes with the
Yahoo toolbar popup stopper. The lockup problem seems to have gone away with
all available updates installed as of 7/19/06 at 11:23 p.m. CDT

Wonder if the 105 degree temperature outside has anything to do with this?

"Mark D. VandenBerg" wrote:

> Well. That's no good. Your activation date hasn't passed, only the
> application date for the CPP, and you have 14 days from the installation
> point to activate, so you're okay there. But this is certainly curious
> behaviour. What possibly could not be fixed by a reinstall? Is there
> anyway to pull out what update was applied and post it?
>
> Also, in the future, of course, if you are dual-booting with XP, both O/S's
> use volsnap.sys with regards to the restore points, and XP deletes the ones
> it didn't make. Either encrypt the Vista system partition with BitLocker
> (Thanks MICHAEL) or hide the Vista system partition from XP with a
> partitioning tool and the points will stay.
>
> --
> Ted Stevens taught me everything I know about putting internets in tubes...
>
>
> "Kansas John" <KansasJohn@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CE8DD1E2-C100-4425-A4B2-1781F6D3F57A@microsoft.com...
> > Vista was working pretty good yesterday 7/17/06. Today, it received an
> > automatic update. All networking & internet functions just stopped dead.
> >
> > Rebooted twice. No help. Tried System Restore. There were no previous
> > restore points. The system rebooted itself and came back up to a light
> > blue
> > screen with nothing but the build info on it. Now instead of BSOD, we
> > have
> > the LBSOD which is an improvement, since you get no useless message
> > telling
> > you the computer is deadmeat.
> >
> > Tried restoring from DVD. All went nice for a while, but then it just
> > said
> > "There is a problem that can't be fixed by restore.
> >
> > Fine. I'll just reinstall from scratch. All went nice for a while. Then
> > it just said "There was a problem and install failed."
> >
> > So, now there is no way to restore, reinstall, re-anything that I can
> > think
> > of.
> >
> > I suppose I could format the partition, but then, could I re-activate
> > since
> > my activation date is passed.
> >
> > I think Redmond has booted me out of the Beta club.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
>
>