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| | New tool available to selectively bypass the UAC prompt This is a developers tool that will allow you to selectively enable programs to bypass the UAC prompt. Recommended for Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate. How to disable the User Account Control Prompt for certain applications: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946932 Testing it now. -- Ronnie Vernon Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User |
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| | Re: New tool available to selectively bypass the UAC prompt "Jon" <Email_Address@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uNn64ZzSIHA.5136@xxxxxx Quote: > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:688EC249-E427-4A14-972A-EDD8DD67EE80@xxxxxx Quote: >> This is a developers tool that will allow you to selectively enable >> programs to bypass the UAC prompt. Recommended for Vista Business, >> Enterprise and Ultimate. >> >> How to disable the User Account Control Prompt for certain applications: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946932 >> >> Testing it now. >> > > Worth noting that this won't do what many people will anticipate that it > will do. What it won't do is allow you to launch an elevated process from > a non-elevated one without a UAC prompt. If you launch an application in > the standard way (eg via Start menu or clicking on an application > shortcut), then the modified process will just launch with standard user > privileges. > > NB I've not tried it, but that is how I would interpret the significance > of the instructions on the page, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong > there, following your testing. > > > > You can also achieve the same by adding a path / 'RUNASINVOKER' registry > entry under > > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows > NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers > or > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows > NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Layers > > which is a probably simpler way of achieving the same. > > > > -- > Jon > These are just prliminary results of some testing. It worked on a file utility that I use. (ShellExView) It failed on Acronis Disk Director and True Image. I am aware of the registry keys you mentioned, but the Application Compatibility Tool doesn't appear to make any changes to those registry keys. Still testing. -- Ronnie Vernon Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User |
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| | Re: New tool available to selectively bypass the UAC prompt "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:78090D5B-38F4-4822-B489-3DC8C7118275@xxxxxx Quote: > > Jon > > These are just prliminary results of some testing. > > It worked on a file utility that I use. (ShellExView) > It failed on Acronis Disk Director and True Image. > > I am aware of the registry keys you mentioned, but the Application > Compatibility Tool doesn't appear to make any changes to those registry > keys. > > Still testing. > Yeah, that would make sense since the last 2 would require full elevated privileges for uninhibited disc access, whereas you'd anticipate viewing current user shell extensions to require less privileges. Interesting that it's independent of those registry keys though.... -- Jon |
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| | Re: New tool available to selectively bypass the UAC prompt "Jon" <Email_Address@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ejOMlZ0SIHA.4280@xxxxxx Quote: > > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:78090D5B-38F4-4822-B489-3DC8C7118275@xxxxxx Quote: >> >> Jon >> >> These are just prliminary results of some testing. >> >> It worked on a file utility that I use. (ShellExView) >> It failed on Acronis Disk Director and True Image. >> >> I am aware of the registry keys you mentioned, but the Application >> Compatibility Tool doesn't appear to make any changes to those registry >> keys. >> >> Still testing. >> > > > Yeah, that would make sense since the last 2 would require full elevated > privileges for uninhibited disc access, whereas you'd anticipate viewing > current user shell extensions to require less privileges. > > Interesting that it's independent of those registry keys though.... > > -- > Jon > You were correct about the Acronis programs, they 'must' have admin privileges to run. The utility that I mentioned ran OK until I tried to perform an action that required it to create a registry value and then it failed. I found that the ACT tool does write a entry in the registry, but it creates it's own key called 'InstalledSDB'. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\InstalledSDB It also adds an entry to the Control Panel/Programs and Features/Uninstall or Change A Program so that any particular component that you create can be easily uninstalled. -- Ronnie Vernon Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User |
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| | Re: New tool available to selectively bypass the UAC prompt "Ronnie Vernon MVP" <rv@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23lMZvHATIHA.4440@xxxxxx Quote: > Quote: > I found that the ACT tool does write a entry in the registry, but it > creates it's own key called 'InstalledSDB'. > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows > NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\InstalledSDB > > It also adds an entry to the Control Panel/Programs and Features/Uninstall > or Change A Program so that any particular component that you create can > be easily uninstalled. > > Interesting .. thanks for sharing Ronnie. -- Jon |
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| Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Re: New tool available to selectively bypass the UAC prompt This is a developers tool that will allow you to selectively enable programs to bypass the UAC prompt. Recommended for Vista Business, Enterprise and Ultimate. How to disable the User Account Control Prompt for certain applications: How to disable the User Account Control Prompt for certain application Testing it now. -- Ronnie Vernon Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User I tried it on the program CCleaner, and it did not prevent the UAC prompt for it. Even after a restart. I also tried it with combinations of "RunAsAdmin" and "RunAsHighest" with the "RunAsInvoker" to see if it made any difference. Nope. I am using the 64 bit Vista Ultimate. Hope this helps with the testing on it. Any ideas? Shawn |
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| | Re: New tool available to selectively bypass the UAC prompt "brink" <brink.32i227@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message news:brink.32i227@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net... Quote: > > Ronnie Vernon MVP;557487 Wrote: Quote: >> This is a developers tool that will allow you to selectively enable >> programs >> to bypass the UAC prompt. Recommended for Vista Business, Enterprise >> and >> Ultimate. >> >> How to disable the User Account Control Prompt for certain >> applications: >> 'How to disable the User Account Control Prompt for certain >> application' (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946932) >> >> Testing it now. >> >> >> -- >> >> Ronnie Vernon >> Microsoft MVP >> Windows Shell/User > Hi Ronnie, > > I tried it on the program CCleaner, and it did not prevent the UAC > prompt for it. Even after a restart. I also tried it with combinations > of "RunAsAdmin" and "RunAsHighest" with the "RunAsInvoker" to see if it > made any difference. Nope. I am using the 64 bit Vista Ultimate. > > Hope this helps with the testing on it. Any ideas? > > Shawn > > > -- > brink > > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* > '*Vista Forums*' > (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980) > *Please post feedback to help others.* It really is a hit or miss tool. I used the tool on a utility called ShellExView, which is a program that displays and can change context menu items. It always pops up the UAC prompt when it is started. After using the ACT tool, the program started without the UAC prompt and displayed the information for the context menu handlers. However, as soon as I tried to use the program to make a change to one of the handlers (which required the program to make a change in the registry) it simply failed. I had to restart the program and use the 'Run as administrator' option to make it work properly. Other programs, such as Acronis Disk Director or True Image, will simply display an error message when you try to start them after using the ACT tool. You can still use the 'Run as administrator' option and they will work properly. The tool adds a registry key at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags called 'InstalledSDB' that contains several DWord and String values. The ACT tool also adds an entry in the Control Panel/Programs and Features/Install_Uninstall Programs, so that you can can easily remove the changes that the tool makes for a particular program that it is used on. The conclusion seems to be that the tool is very limited in scope with what it can actually do. What it will not do is override the UAC prompt if a program attempts to make systemwide changes. -- Ronnie Vernon Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User |
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| Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Re: New tool available to selectively bypass the UAC prompt "brink" <brink.32i227@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message news:brink.32i227@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net... Quote: > > Ronnie Vernon MVP;557487 Wrote: > > Hi Ronnie, > > I tried it on the program CCleaner, and it did not prevent the UAC > prompt for it. Even after a restart. I also tried it with combinations > of "RunAsAdmin" and "RunAsHighest" with the "RunAsInvoker" to see if it > made any difference. Nope. I am using the 64 bit Vista Ultimate. > > Hope this helps with the testing on it. Any ideas? > > Shawn > > > -- > brink > > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask them.* > '*Vista Forums*' > (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980) > *Please post feedback to help others.* It really is a hit or miss tool. I used the tool on a utility called ShellExView, which is a program that displays and can change context menu items. It always pops up the UAC prompt when it is started. After using the ACT tool, the program started without the UAC prompt and displayed the information for the context menu handlers. However, as soon as I tried to use the program to make a change to one of the handlers (which required the program to make a change in the registry) it simply failed. I had to restart the program and use the 'Run as administrator' option to make it work properly. Other programs, such as Acronis Disk Director or True Image, will simply display an error message when you try to start them after using the ACT tool. You can still use the 'Run as administrator' option and they will work properly. The tool adds a registry key at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags called 'InstalledSDB' that contains several DWord and String values. The ACT tool also adds an entry in the Control Panel/Programs and Features/Install_Uninstall Programs, so that you can can easily remove the changes that the tool makes for a particular program that it is used on. The conclusion seems to be that the tool is very limited in scope with what it can actually do. What it will not do is override the UAC prompt if a program attempts to make systemwide changes. -- Ronnie Vernon Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User I was afraid of that, and hoping it was just not compatible with the 64 bit Vista yet. It would of have been nice to of had a way to make a workaround "exceptions list" for the UAC for known safe programs that have no way for them to backdoor the system. Perhaps they will get the bugs worked out and release a new method. Shawn |
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