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01-07-2008
| #11 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista MCE (ehSched) wakes PC at 3.00am Nope. Been through all tasks. The only other that gets close is a DRM checker. ehSched is the task I need to alter properties for, but it doesn't show up anywhere I can find. C "Curt" wrote: Quote: > Ok, is there a task that shows your tv card, or something that > has tv in it, or maybe guide? I don't see it in my computer, so it > may be attached to the tv card program. > > Curt > > "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:AF110571-0D4D-4069-AF13-A52E3CC11EB4@xxxxxx Quote: > > Hi Curt, > > Already tried that - no joy unfortunately. Get mcupdate (plus a couple of > > others) but no ehSched. > > :-( > > > > "Curt" wrote: > > Quote: > >> In taskschd.msc, try clicking on task scheduler library, microsoft, then > >> click > >> on windows, then media center. > >> > >> If that doesn't work, then from the main page, double click at the bottom > >> pane on one of the running tasks there. That may populate the list. > >> > >> Curt > >> > >> > >> > >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news:C4F6D2F5-92D6-46EC-9851-A06B9950E9CE@xxxxxx > >> > Hi Curt, > >> > > >> > The only related task I can find in taskschd.msc is mcupdate (not > >> > ehSched) > >> > and the box to wake the PC is not checked. This is with "show hidden > >> > tasks" > >> > checked. Do you think I should be able to find ehSched - if I could it > >> > might > >> > solve my problem! > >> > > >> > I don't use the recording scheduler. > >> > > >> > I tried to raise an issue with Microsoft but they wanted £46 + VAT for > >> > the > >> > privilege of sorting out my problem! > >> > > >> > Regards > >> > > >> > Chris > >> > > >> > "Curt" wrote: > >> > > >> >> Also, try taskschd.msc. In the task scheduler library, there is a > >> >> check > >> >> box > >> >> under conditions for waking the PC. You may have already tried that as > >> >> well, > >> >> I don't know. > >> >> > >> >> the problem is that it may affect your recording schedule if you have > >> >> the > >> >> tv card set to record shows. Under the proerties tag, on the > >> >> right hand side of the page, you can reset the time, but if the > >> >> mcupdate > >> >> is changing the time back to 3 am, then this may or may not work. > >> >> > >> >> If under settings, you disable wake, you can still have it download > >> >> the > >> >> guide > >> >> from the settings page. > >> >> > >> >> Again, it may or may not work. If mcupdate is the culprit, you can > >> >> open > >> >> an issue with Microsoft. > >> >> > >> >> Curt > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> >> news:C64A0F47-A959-45C2-AABE-375DD0E89647@xxxxxx > >> >> > Thanks Curt - unfortunately the Event Viewer still shows a scheduled > >> >> > download > >> >> > at 3.00am! What I really want to do is to keep the scheduled > >> >> > downloads > >> >> > but > >> >> > either move them to a more convenient time, or, even better to keep > >> >> > them > >> >> > where they are but stop the event waking the PC! > >> >> > > >> >> > "Curt" wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> >> In media center, tasks, settings, general, automatic download > >> >> >> options, > >> >> >> there > >> >> >> is a manual download option. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> This might work if you change it to manual. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Curt > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in > >> >> >> message > >> >> >> news:57F3FDFB-B24A-4AF7-8DAE-AB87AEE90877@xxxxxx > >> >> >> > Since I installed a TV card in my Vista Home Premium desktop, the > >> >> >> > computer > >> >> >> > wakes every night at 3.00am to download an updated program guide > >> >> >> > (using > >> >> >> > Media > >> >> >> > Center). I have investigated this problem and it is being caused > >> >> >> > by > >> >> >> > ehSched > >> >> >> > running. No amount of twiddling with optimizers, power settings > >> >> >> > or > >> >> >> > task > >> >> >> > schedules will fix it (it is not even listed as a hidden task). A > >> >> >> > small > >> >> >> > program posted here > >> >> >> > http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/21568.aspx > >> >> >> > fixes > >> >> >> > the problem temporarily but then it seems that when mcupdate > >> >> >> > runs, > >> >> >> > it > >> >> >> > re-sets > >> >> >> > ehSched to 3.00am! Since the computer is located in the bedroom, > >> >> >> > it > >> >> >> > wakes > >> >> >> > me > >> >> >> > at 3.00am too! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > I understand that stopping mcupdate fixes the problem but that's > >> >> >> > a > >> >> >> > bit > >> >> >> > drastic since that seems to stop all media center updating! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Whoever in Microsoft thought that waking a computer at 3.00am to > >> >> >> > carry > >> >> >> > out > >> >> >> > a > >> >> >> > task that could wait until it was next switched on was a great > >> >> >> > idea > >> >> >> > clearly > >> >> >> > has a limited grasp of real-world PC use! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Come on you experts - there must be a way to fix this either by > >> >> >> > stopping > >> >> >> > ehSched from waking the PC (so that it runs only when the PC is > >> >> >> > running - > >> >> >> > I > >> >> >> > am currently having to shut down the PC every night and then > >> >> >> > ehSched > >> >> >> > runs > >> >> >> > at > >> >> >> > start-up) or resetting the time it runs permanently. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Thanks in advance > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Chris > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> |
My System Specs |
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01-07-2008
| #12 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista MCE (ehSched) wakes PC at 3.00am Well, there has to be a parent task somewhere. When is MCupdate set to run? If that's at 3, then maybe changing the settinsg for that might work... Otherwise, I am at a loss. Curt "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5C960A5B-64C7-41B1-B888-608B242BCE28@xxxxxx Quote: > Nope. Been through all tasks. The only other that gets close is a DRM > checker. > > ehSched is the task I need to alter properties for, but it doesn't show up > anywhere I can find. > > C > > "Curt" wrote: > Quote: >> Ok, is there a task that shows your tv card, or something that >> has tv in it, or maybe guide? I don't see it in my computer, so it >> may be attached to the tv card program. >> >> Curt >> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:AF110571-0D4D-4069-AF13-A52E3CC11EB4@xxxxxx Quote: >> > Hi Curt, >> > Already tried that - no joy unfortunately. Get mcupdate (plus a couple >> > of >> > others) but no ehSched. >> > :-( >> > >> > "Curt" wrote: >> > >> >> In taskschd.msc, try clicking on task scheduler library, microsoft, >> >> then >> >> click >> >> on windows, then media center. >> >> >> >> If that doesn't work, then from the main page, double click at the >> >> bottom >> >> pane on one of the running tasks there. That may populate the list. >> >> >> >> Curt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> >> news:C4F6D2F5-92D6-46EC-9851-A06B9950E9CE@xxxxxx >> >> > Hi Curt, >> >> > >> >> > The only related task I can find in taskschd.msc is mcupdate (not >> >> > ehSched) >> >> > and the box to wake the PC is not checked. This is with "show >> >> > hidden >> >> > tasks" >> >> > checked. Do you think I should be able to find ehSched - if I could >> >> > it >> >> > might >> >> > solve my problem! >> >> > >> >> > I don't use the recording scheduler. >> >> > >> >> > I tried to raise an issue with Microsoft but they wanted £46 + VAT >> >> > for >> >> > the >> >> > privilege of sorting out my problem! >> >> > >> >> > Regards >> >> > >> >> > Chris >> >> > >> >> > "Curt" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Also, try taskschd.msc. In the task scheduler library, there is a >> >> >> check >> >> >> box >> >> >> under conditions for waking the PC. You may have already tried that >> >> >> as >> >> >> well, >> >> >> I don't know. >> >> >> >> >> >> the problem is that it may affect your recording schedule if you >> >> >> have >> >> >> the >> >> >> tv card set to record shows. Under the proerties tag, on the >> >> >> right hand side of the page, you can reset the time, but if the >> >> >> mcupdate >> >> >> is changing the time back to 3 am, then this may or may not work. >> >> >> >> >> >> If under settings, you disable wake, you can still have it download >> >> >> the >> >> >> guide >> >> >> from the settings page. >> >> >> >> >> >> Again, it may or may not work. If mcupdate is the culprit, you can >> >> >> open >> >> >> an issue with Microsoft. >> >> >> >> >> >> Curt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in >> >> >> message >> >> >> news:C64A0F47-A959-45C2-AABE-375DD0E89647@xxxxxx >> >> >> > Thanks Curt - unfortunately the Event Viewer still shows a >> >> >> > scheduled >> >> >> > download >> >> >> > at 3.00am! What I really want to do is to keep the scheduled >> >> >> > downloads >> >> >> > but >> >> >> > either move them to a more convenient time, or, even better to >> >> >> > keep >> >> >> > them >> >> >> > where they are but stop the event waking the PC! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > "Curt" wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> In media center, tasks, settings, general, automatic download >> >> >> >> options, >> >> >> >> there >> >> >> >> is a manual download option. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> This might work if you change it to manual. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Curt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in >> >> >> >> message >> >> >> >> news:57F3FDFB-B24A-4AF7-8DAE-AB87AEE90877@xxxxxx >> >> >> >> > Since I installed a TV card in my Vista Home Premium desktop, >> >> >> >> > the >> >> >> >> > computer >> >> >> >> > wakes every night at 3.00am to download an updated program >> >> >> >> > guide >> >> >> >> > (using >> >> >> >> > Media >> >> >> >> > Center). I have investigated this problem and it is being >> >> >> >> > caused >> >> >> >> > by >> >> >> >> > ehSched >> >> >> >> > running. No amount of twiddling with optimizers, power >> >> >> >> > settings >> >> >> >> > or >> >> >> >> > task >> >> >> >> > schedules will fix it (it is not even listed as a hidden >> >> >> >> > task). A >> >> >> >> > small >> >> >> >> > program posted here >> >> >> >> > http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/21568.aspx >> >> >> >> > fixes >> >> >> >> > the problem temporarily but then it seems that when mcupdate >> >> >> >> > runs, >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >> >> > re-sets >> >> >> >> > ehSched to 3.00am! Since the computer is located in the >> >> >> >> > bedroom, >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >> >> > wakes >> >> >> >> > me >> >> >> >> > at 3.00am too! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I understand that stopping mcupdate fixes the problem but >> >> >> >> > that's >> >> >> >> > a >> >> >> >> > bit >> >> >> >> > drastic since that seems to stop all media center updating! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Whoever in Microsoft thought that waking a computer at 3.00am >> >> >> >> > to >> >> >> >> > carry >> >> >> >> > out >> >> >> >> > a >> >> >> >> > task that could wait until it was next switched on was a great >> >> >> >> > idea >> >> >> >> > clearly >> >> >> >> > has a limited grasp of real-world PC use! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Come on you experts - there must be a way to fix this either >> >> >> >> > by >> >> >> >> > stopping >> >> >> >> > ehSched from waking the PC (so that it runs only when the PC >> >> >> >> > is >> >> >> >> > running - >> >> >> >> > I >> >> >> >> > am currently having to shut down the PC every night and then >> >> >> >> > ehSched >> >> >> >> > runs >> >> >> >> > at >> >> >> >> > start-up) or resetting the time it runs permanently. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Thanks in advance >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Chris >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> |
| My System Specs |
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01-07-2008
| #13 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista MCE (ehSched) wakes PC at 3.00am ehDRMinit is the parent task. Under conditions, is it set to wake the computer? If it is deselect it, then in settings run task as soon as possible. Curt "Curt" <cdlevin@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:88D1DFE5-6FBE-4DE6-B798-64F9D509D47E@xxxxxx Quote: > Well, there has to be a parent task somewhere. When is MCupdate set > to run? If that's at 3, then maybe changing the settinsg for that might > work... > > Otherwise, I am at a loss. > > Curt > > > > "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:5C960A5B-64C7-41B1-B888-608B242BCE28@xxxxxx Quote: >> Nope. Been through all tasks. The only other that gets close is a DRM >> checker. >> >> ehSched is the task I need to alter properties for, but it doesn't show >> up >> anywhere I can find. >> >> C >> >> "Curt" wrote: >> Quote: >>> Ok, is there a task that shows your tv card, or something that >>> has tv in it, or maybe guide? I don't see it in my computer, so it >>> may be attached to the tv card program. >>> >>> Curt >>> >>> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:AF110571-0D4D-4069-AF13-A52E3CC11EB4@xxxxxx >>> > Hi Curt, >>> > Already tried that - no joy unfortunately. Get mcupdate (plus a >>> > couple of >>> > others) but no ehSched. >>> > :-( >>> > >>> > "Curt" wrote: >>> > >>> >> In taskschd.msc, try clicking on task scheduler library, microsoft, >>> >> then >>> >> click >>> >> on windows, then media center. >>> >> >>> >> If that doesn't work, then from the main page, double click at the >>> >> bottom >>> >> pane on one of the running tasks there. That may populate the list. >>> >> >>> >> Curt >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> >> news:C4F6D2F5-92D6-46EC-9851-A06B9950E9CE@xxxxxx >>> >> > Hi Curt, >>> >> > >>> >> > The only related task I can find in taskschd.msc is mcupdate (not >>> >> > ehSched) >>> >> > and the box to wake the PC is not checked. This is with "show >>> >> > hidden >>> >> > tasks" >>> >> > checked. Do you think I should be able to find ehSched - if I could >>> >> > it >>> >> > might >>> >> > solve my problem! >>> >> > >>> >> > I don't use the recording scheduler. >>> >> > >>> >> > I tried to raise an issue with Microsoft but they wanted £46 + VAT >>> >> > for >>> >> > the >>> >> > privilege of sorting out my problem! >>> >> > >>> >> > Regards >>> >> > >>> >> > Chris >>> >> > >>> >> > "Curt" wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> Also, try taskschd.msc. In the task scheduler library, there is a >>> >> >> check >>> >> >> box >>> >> >> under conditions for waking the PC. You may have already tried >>> >> >> that as >>> >> >> well, >>> >> >> I don't know. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> the problem is that it may affect your recording schedule if you >>> >> >> have >>> >> >> the >>> >> >> tv card set to record shows. Under the proerties tag, on the >>> >> >> right hand side of the page, you can reset the time, but if the >>> >> >> mcupdate >>> >> >> is changing the time back to 3 am, then this may or may not work. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> If under settings, you disable wake, you can still have it >>> >> >> download >>> >> >> the >>> >> >> guide >>> >> >> from the settings page. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Again, it may or may not work. If mcupdate is the culprit, you can >>> >> >> open >>> >> >> an issue with Microsoft. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Curt >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in >>> >> >> message >>> >> >> news:C64A0F47-A959-45C2-AABE-375DD0E89647@xxxxxx >>> >> >> > Thanks Curt - unfortunately the Event Viewer still shows a >>> >> >> > scheduled >>> >> >> > download >>> >> >> > at 3.00am! What I really want to do is to keep the scheduled >>> >> >> > downloads >>> >> >> > but >>> >> >> > either move them to a more convenient time, or, even better to >>> >> >> > keep >>> >> >> > them >>> >> >> > where they are but stop the event waking the PC! >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > "Curt" wrote: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> In media center, tasks, settings, general, automatic download >>> >> >> >> options, >>> >> >> >> there >>> >> >> >> is a manual download option. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> This might work if you change it to manual. >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Curt >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in >>> >> >> >> message >>> >> >> >> news:57F3FDFB-B24A-4AF7-8DAE-AB87AEE90877@xxxxxx >>> >> >> >> > Since I installed a TV card in my Vista Home Premium desktop, >>> >> >> >> > the >>> >> >> >> > computer >>> >> >> >> > wakes every night at 3.00am to download an updated program >>> >> >> >> > guide >>> >> >> >> > (using >>> >> >> >> > Media >>> >> >> >> > Center). I have investigated this problem and it is being >>> >> >> >> > caused >>> >> >> >> > by >>> >> >> >> > ehSched >>> >> >> >> > running. No amount of twiddling with optimizers, power >>> >> >> >> > settings >>> >> >> >> > or >>> >> >> >> > task >>> >> >> >> > schedules will fix it (it is not even listed as a hidden >>> >> >> >> > task). A >>> >> >> >> > small >>> >> >> >> > program posted here >>> >> >> >> > http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/21568.aspx >>> >> >> >> > fixes >>> >> >> >> > the problem temporarily but then it seems that when mcupdate >>> >> >> >> > runs, >>> >> >> >> > it >>> >> >> >> > re-sets >>> >> >> >> > ehSched to 3.00am! Since the computer is located in the >>> >> >> >> > bedroom, >>> >> >> >> > it >>> >> >> >> > wakes >>> >> >> >> > me >>> >> >> >> > at 3.00am too! >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > I understand that stopping mcupdate fixes the problem but >>> >> >> >> > that's >>> >> >> >> > a >>> >> >> >> > bit >>> >> >> >> > drastic since that seems to stop all media center updating! >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > Whoever in Microsoft thought that waking a computer at 3.00am >>> >> >> >> > to >>> >> >> >> > carry >>> >> >> >> > out >>> >> >> >> > a >>> >> >> >> > task that could wait until it was next switched on was a >>> >> >> >> > great >>> >> >> >> > idea >>> >> >> >> > clearly >>> >> >> >> > has a limited grasp of real-world PC use! >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > Come on you experts - there must be a way to fix this either >>> >> >> >> > by >>> >> >> >> > stopping >>> >> >> >> > ehSched from waking the PC (so that it runs only when the PC >>> >> >> >> > is >>> >> >> >> > running - >>> >> >> >> > I >>> >> >> >> > am currently having to shut down the PC every night and then >>> >> >> >> > ehSched >>> >> >> >> > runs >>> >> >> >> > at >>> >> >> >> > start-up) or resetting the time it runs permanently. >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > Thanks in advance >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > Chris >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> |
| My System Specs |
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01-08-2008
| #14 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista MCE (ehSched) wakes PC at 3.00am Hi Curt - I think mcupdate is the parent task - this runs at 20.25 every day and is not set to wake the computer. When mcupdate runs, it resets the run time of ehSched to 3.00am (as noted at the start of the thread, I found a program to change the time of ehSched running - this works but then the time change is undone once mcupdate runs and ehSched is then reset to 3.00am). ehDRMinit ran this morning when I switched on the PC (I have to shut it down every night otherwise it wakes at 3.00am as per the thread title then that wakes me!) but has no next run time listed. Wake computer is not ticked on this task either. Regards Chris "Curt" wrote: Quote: > ehDRMinit is the parent task. Under conditions, is it set to wake the > computer? > If it is deselect it, then in settings run task as soon as possible. > > Curt > > "Curt" <cdlevin@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:88D1DFE5-6FBE-4DE6-B798-64F9D509D47E@xxxxxx Quote: > > Well, there has to be a parent task somewhere. When is MCupdate set > > to run? If that's at 3, then maybe changing the settinsg for that might > > work... > > > > Otherwise, I am at a loss. > > > > Curt > > > > > > > > "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > news:5C960A5B-64C7-41B1-B888-608B242BCE28@xxxxxx Quote: > >> Nope. Been through all tasks. The only other that gets close is a DRM > >> checker. > >> > >> ehSched is the task I need to alter properties for, but it doesn't show > >> up > >> anywhere I can find. > >> > >> C > >> > >> "Curt" wrote: > >> > >>> Ok, is there a task that shows your tv card, or something that > >>> has tv in it, or maybe guide? I don't see it in my computer, so it > >>> may be attached to the tv card program. > >>> > >>> Curt > >>> > >>> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >>> news:AF110571-0D4D-4069-AF13-A52E3CC11EB4@xxxxxx > >>> > Hi Curt, > >>> > Already tried that - no joy unfortunately. Get mcupdate (plus a > >>> > couple of > >>> > others) but no ehSched. > >>> > :-( > >>> > > >>> > "Curt" wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> In taskschd.msc, try clicking on task scheduler library, microsoft, > >>> >> then > >>> >> click > >>> >> on windows, then media center. > >>> >> > >>> >> If that doesn't work, then from the main page, double click at the > >>> >> bottom > >>> >> pane on one of the running tasks there. That may populate the list. > >>> >> > >>> >> Curt > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >>> >> news:C4F6D2F5-92D6-46EC-9851-A06B9950E9CE@xxxxxx > >>> >> > Hi Curt, > >>> >> > > >>> >> > The only related task I can find in taskschd.msc is mcupdate (not > >>> >> > ehSched) > >>> >> > and the box to wake the PC is not checked. This is with "show > >>> >> > hidden > >>> >> > tasks" > >>> >> > checked. Do you think I should be able to find ehSched - if I could > >>> >> > it > >>> >> > might > >>> >> > solve my problem! > >>> >> > > >>> >> > I don't use the recording scheduler. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > I tried to raise an issue with Microsoft but they wanted £46 + VAT > >>> >> > for > >>> >> > the > >>> >> > privilege of sorting out my problem! > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Regards > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Chris > >>> >> > > >>> >> > "Curt" wrote: > >>> >> > > >>> >> >> Also, try taskschd.msc. In the task scheduler library, there is a > >>> >> >> check > >>> >> >> box > >>> >> >> under conditions for waking the PC. You may have already tried > >>> >> >> that as > >>> >> >> well, > >>> >> >> I don't know. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> the problem is that it may affect your recording schedule if you > >>> >> >> have > >>> >> >> the > >>> >> >> tv card set to record shows. Under the proerties tag, on the > >>> >> >> right hand side of the page, you can reset the time, but if the > >>> >> >> mcupdate > >>> >> >> is changing the time back to 3 am, then this may or may not work. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> If under settings, you disable wake, you can still have it > >>> >> >> download > >>> >> >> the > >>> >> >> guide > >>> >> >> from the settings page. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Again, it may or may not work. If mcupdate is the culprit, you can > >>> >> >> open > >>> >> >> an issue with Microsoft. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Curt > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in > >>> >> >> message > >>> >> >> news:C64A0F47-A959-45C2-AABE-375DD0E89647@xxxxxx > >>> >> >> > Thanks Curt - unfortunately the Event Viewer still shows a > >>> >> >> > scheduled > >>> >> >> > download > >>> >> >> > at 3.00am! What I really want to do is to keep the scheduled > >>> >> >> > downloads > >>> >> >> > but > >>> >> >> > either move them to a more convenient time, or, even better to > >>> >> >> > keep > >>> >> >> > them > >>> >> >> > where they are but stop the event waking the PC! > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > "Curt" wrote: > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> In media center, tasks, settings, general, automatic download > >>> >> >> >> options, > >>> >> >> >> there > >>> >> >> >> is a manual download option. > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> This might work if you change it to manual. > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> Curt > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in > >>> >> >> >> message > >>> >> >> >> news:57F3FDFB-B24A-4AF7-8DAE-AB87AEE90877@xxxxxx > >>> >> >> >> > Since I installed a TV card in my Vista Home Premium desktop, > >>> >> >> >> > the > >>> >> >> >> > computer > >>> >> >> >> > wakes every night at 3.00am to download an updated program > >>> >> >> >> > guide > >>> >> >> >> > (using > >>> >> >> >> > Media > >>> >> >> >> > Center). I have investigated this problem and it is being > >>> >> >> >> > caused > >>> >> >> >> > by > >>> >> >> >> > ehSched > >>> >> >> >> > running. No amount of twiddling with optimizers, power > >>> >> >> >> > settings > >>> >> >> >> > or > >>> >> >> >> > task > >>> >> >> >> > schedules will fix it (it is not even listed as a hidden > >>> >> >> >> > task). A > >>> >> >> >> > small > >>> >> >> >> > program posted here > >>> >> >> >> > http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/21568.aspx > >>> >> >> >> > fixes > >>> >> >> >> > the problem temporarily but then it seems that when mcupdate > >>> >> >> >> > runs, > >>> >> >> >> > it > >>> >> >> >> > re-sets > >>> >> >> >> > ehSched to 3.00am! Since the computer is located in the > >>> >> >> >> > bedroom, > >>> >> >> >> > it > >>> >> >> >> > wakes > >>> >> >> >> > me > >>> >> >> >> > at 3.00am too! > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > I understand that stopping mcupdate fixes the problem but > >>> >> >> >> > that's > >>> >> >> >> > a > >>> >> >> >> > bit > >>> >> >> >> > drastic since that seems to stop all media center updating! > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > Whoever in Microsoft thought that waking a computer at 3.00am > >>> >> >> >> > to > >>> >> >> >> > carry > >>> >> >> >> > out > >>> >> >> >> > a > >>> >> >> >> > task that could wait until it was next switched on was a > >>> >> >> >> > great > >>> >> >> >> > idea > >>> >> >> >> > clearly > >>> >> >> >> > has a limited grasp of real-world PC use! > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > Come on you experts - there must be a way to fix this either > >>> >> >> >> > by > >>> >> >> >> > stopping > >>> >> >> >> > ehSched from waking the PC (so that it runs only when the PC > >>> >> >> >> > is > >>> >> >> >> > running - > >>> >> >> >> > I > >>> >> >> >> > am currently having to shut down the PC every night and then > >>> >> >> >> > ehSched > >>> >> >> >> > runs > >>> >> >> >> > at > >>> >> >> >> > start-up) or resetting the time it runs permanently. > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > Thanks in advance > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > Chris > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> > >>> |
| My System Specs |
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01-08-2008
| #15 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista MCE (ehSched) wakes PC at 3.00am Then it's got to be a Microsoft issue. You can go to their website and try to get help with the issue via the internet. Maybe someone else knows how to open a ticket. I don't. But if their update program is doing it and you can't change it, then they own the issue. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. If there's no way for a user to change it, then we're wasitng our time. If they know how to do it, and I am pretty certain that if it can be done that they would, then I can't see why they'd keep it a secret. So give them a shout over the net. Or try microsoft.public.windows.mediacenter They may know. Good luck Chris. Curt "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8066C6A4-341A-4F17-8346-02BE369201A5@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi Curt - I think mcupdate is the parent task - this runs at 20.25 every > day > and is not set to wake the computer. When mcupdate runs, it resets the > run > time of ehSched to 3.00am (as noted at the start of the thread, I found a > program to change the time of ehSched running - this works but then the > time > change is undone once mcupdate runs and ehSched is then reset to 3.00am). > > ehDRMinit ran this morning when I switched on the PC (I have to shut it > down > every night otherwise it wakes at 3.00am as per the thread title then that > wakes me!) but has no next run time listed. Wake computer is not ticked > on > this task either. > > Regards > > Chris > > "Curt" wrote: > Quote: >> ehDRMinit is the parent task. Under conditions, is it set to wake the >> computer? >> If it is deselect it, then in settings run task as soon as possible. >> >> Curt >> >> "Curt" <cdlevin@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:88D1DFE5-6FBE-4DE6-B798-64F9D509D47E@xxxxxx Quote: >> > Well, there has to be a parent task somewhere. When is MCupdate set >> > to run? If that's at 3, then maybe changing the settinsg for that might >> > work... >> > >> > Otherwise, I am at a loss. >> > >> > Curt >> > >> > >> > >> > "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> > news:5C960A5B-64C7-41B1-B888-608B242BCE28@xxxxxx >> >> Nope. Been through all tasks. The only other that gets close is a >> >> DRM >> >> checker. >> >> >> >> ehSched is the task I need to alter properties for, but it doesn't >> >> show >> >> up >> >> anywhere I can find. >> >> >> >> C >> >> >> >> "Curt" wrote: >> >> >> >>> Ok, is there a task that shows your tv card, or something that >> >>> has tv in it, or maybe guide? I don't see it in my computer, so it >> >>> may be attached to the tv card program. >> >>> >> >>> Curt >> >>> >> >>> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> >>> news:AF110571-0D4D-4069-AF13-A52E3CC11EB4@xxxxxx >> >>> > Hi Curt, >> >>> > Already tried that - no joy unfortunately. Get mcupdate (plus a >> >>> > couple of >> >>> > others) but no ehSched. >> >>> > :-( >> >>> > >> >>> > "Curt" wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >> In taskschd.msc, try clicking on task scheduler library, >> >>> >> microsoft, >> >>> >> then >> >>> >> click >> >>> >> on windows, then media center. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> If that doesn't work, then from the main page, double click at the >> >>> >> bottom >> >>> >> pane on one of the running tasks there. That may populate the >> >>> >> list. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Curt >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in >> >>> >> message >> >>> >> news:C4F6D2F5-92D6-46EC-9851-A06B9950E9CE@xxxxxx >> >>> >> > Hi Curt, >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > The only related task I can find in taskschd.msc is mcupdate >> >>> >> > (not >> >>> >> > ehSched) >> >>> >> > and the box to wake the PC is not checked. This is with "show >> >>> >> > hidden >> >>> >> > tasks" >> >>> >> > checked. Do you think I should be able to find ehSched - if I >> >>> >> > could >> >>> >> > it >> >>> >> > might >> >>> >> > solve my problem! >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > I don't use the recording scheduler. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > I tried to raise an issue with Microsoft but they wanted £46 + >> >>> >> > VAT >> >>> >> > for >> >>> >> > the >> >>> >> > privilege of sorting out my problem! >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > Regards >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > Chris >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > "Curt" wrote: >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> Also, try taskschd.msc. In the task scheduler library, there is >> >>> >> >> a >> >>> >> >> check >> >>> >> >> box >> >>> >> >> under conditions for waking the PC. You may have already tried >> >>> >> >> that as >> >>> >> >> well, >> >>> >> >> I don't know. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> the problem is that it may affect your recording schedule if >> >>> >> >> you >> >>> >> >> have >> >>> >> >> the >> >>> >> >> tv card set to record shows. Under the proerties tag, on the >> >>> >> >> right hand side of the page, you can reset the time, but if the >> >>> >> >> mcupdate >> >>> >> >> is changing the time back to 3 am, then this may or may not >> >>> >> >> work. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> If under settings, you disable wake, you can still have it >> >>> >> >> download >> >>> >> >> the >> >>> >> >> guide >> >>> >> >> from the settings page. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Again, it may or may not work. If mcupdate is the culprit, you >> >>> >> >> can >> >>> >> >> open >> >>> >> >> an issue with Microsoft. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Curt >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in >> >>> >> >> message >> >>> >> >> news:C64A0F47-A959-45C2-AABE-375DD0E89647@xxxxxx >> >>> >> >> > Thanks Curt - unfortunately the Event Viewer still shows a >> >>> >> >> > scheduled >> >>> >> >> > download >> >>> >> >> > at 3.00am! What I really want to do is to keep the scheduled >> >>> >> >> > downloads >> >>> >> >> > but >> >>> >> >> > either move them to a more convenient time, or, even better >> >>> >> >> > to >> >>> >> >> > keep >> >>> >> >> > them >> >>> >> >> > where they are but stop the event waking the PC! >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > "Curt" wrote: >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> In media center, tasks, settings, general, automatic >> >>> >> >> >> download >> >>> >> >> >> options, >> >>> >> >> >> there >> >>> >> >> >> is a manual download option. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> This might work if you change it to manual. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Curt >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in >> >>> >> >> >> message >> >>> >> >> >> news:57F3FDFB-B24A-4AF7-8DAE-AB87AEE90877@xxxxxx >> >>> >> >> >> > Since I installed a TV card in my Vista Home Premium >> >>> >> >> >> > desktop, >> >>> >> >> >> > the >> >>> >> >> >> > computer >> >>> >> >> >> > wakes every night at 3.00am to download an updated program >> >>> >> >> >> > guide >> >>> >> >> >> > (using >> >>> >> >> >> > Media >> >>> >> >> >> > Center). I have investigated this problem and it is being >> >>> >> >> >> > caused >> >>> >> >> >> > by >> >>> >> >> >> > ehSched >> >>> >> >> >> > running. No amount of twiddling with optimizers, power >> >>> >> >> >> > settings >> >>> >> >> >> > or >> >>> >> >> >> > task >> >>> >> >> >> > schedules will fix it (it is not even listed as a hidden >> >>> >> >> >> > task). A >> >>> >> >> >> > small >> >>> >> >> >> > program posted here >> >>> >> >> >> > http://thegreenbutton.com/forums/thread/21568.aspx >> >>> >> >> >> > fixes >> >>> >> >> >> > the problem temporarily but then it seems that when >> >>> >> >> >> > mcupdate >> >>> >> >> >> > runs, >> >>> >> >> >> > it >> >>> >> >> >> > re-sets >> >>> >> >> >> > ehSched to 3.00am! Since the computer is located in the >> >>> >> >> >> > bedroom, >> >>> >> >> >> > it >> >>> >> >> >> > wakes >> >>> >> >> >> > me >> >>> >> >> >> > at 3.00am too! >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > I understand that stopping mcupdate fixes the problem but >> >>> >> >> >> > that's >> >>> >> >> >> > a >> >>> >> >> >> > bit >> >>> >> >> >> > drastic since that seems to stop all media center >> >>> >> >> >> > updating! >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > Whoever in Microsoft thought that waking a computer at >> >>> >> >> >> > 3.00am >> >>> >> >> >> > to >> >>> >> >> >> > carry >> >>> >> >> >> > out >> >>> >> >> >> > a >> >>> >> >> >> > task that could wait until it was next switched on was a >> >>> >> >> >> > great >> >>> >> >> >> > idea >> >>> >> >> >> > clearly >> >>> >> >> >> > has a limited grasp of real-world PC use! >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > Come on you experts - there must be a way to fix this >> >>> >> >> >> > either >> >>> >> >> >> > by >> >>> >> >> >> > stopping >> >>> >> >> >> > ehSched from waking the PC (so that it runs only when the >> >>> >> >> >> > PC >> >>> >> >> >> > is >> >>> >> >> >> > running - >> >>> >> >> >> > I >> >>> >> >> >> > am currently having to shut down the PC every night and >> >>> >> >> >> > then >> >>> >> >> >> > ehSched >> >>> >> >> >> > runs >> >>> >> >> >> > at >> >>> >> >> >> > start-up) or resetting the time it runs permanently. >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > Thanks in advance >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> > Chris >> >>> >> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > |
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01-08-2008
| #16 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista MCE (ehSched) wakes PC at 3.00am Hi Curt, Thanks for all your suggestions. I have not been able to find a way to get a support incident raised with Microsoft without going through the "pay us £65/$130" page! Actually I think your earlier suggestion of turning off automatic updating may have worked after all. At the time, I thought it hadn't as the event viewer was still showing next event for ehSched as 03.00 the following morning. But it is still showing the same date/time (now 03.00 this morning past) and it hasn't run since. I will leave the PC on overnight tonight with fingers crossed. Will post result! Its not the ideal solution (since it means I have to manually download updates) but it is a lot better than the PC waking! Again many thanks for all your time and suggestions. Chris "Curt" wrote: Quote: > Then it's got to be a Microsoft issue. You can go to their > website and try to get help with the issue via the internet. > > Maybe someone else knows how to open a ticket. I don't. > But if their update program is doing it and you can't change > it, then they own the issue. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. > > If there's no way for a user to change it, then we're > wasitng our time. > > If they know how to do it, and I am pretty certain that if it can > be done that they would, then I can't see why they'd keep it a secret. > So give them a shout over the net. > > Or try microsoft.public.windows.mediacenter They may know. > > Good luck Chris. > > Curt > |
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01-08-2008
| #17 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista MCE (ehSched) wakes PC at 3.00am That's great. You can change the time on that to run at a more decent hour if it works. Unless MCupdate changes it to 3 am every time it runs, but it's easy to check. -- Curt "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:111CC9BE-3F17-4BB0-A854-0DFF6A30BE46@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi Curt, > > Thanks for all your suggestions. I have not been able to find a way to > get > a support incident raised with Microsoft without going through the "pay us > £65/$130" page! > > Actually I think your earlier suggestion of turning off automatic updating > may have worked after all. At the time, I thought it hadn't as the event > viewer was still showing next event for ehSched as 03.00 the following > morning. But it is still showing the same date/time (now 03.00 this > morning > past) and it hasn't run since. I will leave the PC on overnight tonight > with > fingers crossed. Will post result! > > Its not the ideal solution (since it means I have to manually download > updates) but it is a lot better than the PC waking! > > Again many thanks for all your time and suggestions. > > Chris > > "Curt" wrote: > Quote: >> Then it's got to be a Microsoft issue. You can go to their >> website and try to get help with the issue via the internet. >> >> Maybe someone else knows how to open a ticket. I don't. >> But if their update program is doing it and you can't change >> it, then they own the issue. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. >> >> If there's no way for a user to change it, then we're >> wasitng our time. >> >> If they know how to do it, and I am pretty certain that if it can >> be done that they would, then I can't see why they'd keep it a secret. >> So give them a shout over the net. >> >> Or try microsoft.public.windows.mediacenter They may know. >> >> Good luck Chris. >> >> Curt >> |
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01-09-2008
| #18 (permalink) |
| | Re: Vista MCE (ehSched) wakes PC at 3.00am Hi Curt - to close this off - I'm pleased to report that the PC did not wake last night. As I said, not the ideal solution as I now have to run the updates manually (there is still no way I can find to change the time ehSched runs automatically or to prevent it waking the PC when it runs) but at least it no longer acts as my 3.00am alarm clock! Thanks again for you assistance. "Curt" wrote: Quote: > That's great. You can change the time on that to run at a more decent hour > if it works. > > Unless MCupdate changes it to 3 am every time it runs, but it's > easy to check. > > -- > Curt > > "Chris50259" <Chris50259@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:111CC9BE-3F17-4BB0-A854-0DFF6A30BE46@xxxxxx Quote: > > Hi Curt, > > > > Thanks for all your suggestions. I have not been able to find a way to > > get > > a support incident raised with Microsoft without going through the "pay us > > £65/$130" page! > > > > Actually I think your earlier suggestion of turning off automatic updating > > may have worked after all. At the time, I thought it hadn't as the event > > viewer was still showing next event for ehSched as 03.00 the following > > morning. But it is still showing the same date/time (now 03.00 this > > morning > > past) and it hasn't run since. I will leave the PC on overnight tonight > > with > > fingers crossed. Will post result! > > > > Its not the ideal solution (since it means I have to manually download > > updates) but it is a lot better than the PC waking! > > > > Again many thanks for all your time and suggestions. > > > > Chris > > > > "Curt" wrote: > > Quote: > >> Then it's got to be a Microsoft issue. You can go to their > >> website and try to get help with the issue via the internet. > >> > >> Maybe someone else knows how to open a ticket. I don't. > >> But if their update program is doing it and you can't change > >> it, then they own the issue. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. > >> > >> If there's no way for a user to change it, then we're > >> wasitng our time. > >> > >> If they know how to do it, and I am pretty certain that if it can > >> be done that they would, then I can't see why they'd keep it a secret. > >> So give them a shout over the net. > >> > >> Or try microsoft.public.windows.mediacenter They may know. > >> > >> Good luck Chris. > >> > >> Curt > >> |
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