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01-11-2008
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| | OEM and Retail Vista DVDs identical? I have a generic OEM Vista DVD and product key (System Builder Disc). If I install Vista without entering the product key, I get the Retail EULA shown (it states EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_RTL_en-US at the bottom). If I use the same disc and enter my product key, I get the OEM EULA (EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US). Does this mean that an OEM key can be used on a Retail disc and vise-versa? I know with XP, the OEM/Retail keys were specific to the media and couldn't be swapped. |
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01-11-2008
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| | Re: OEM and Retail Vista DVDs identical? No, OEM Keys are hard coded to system they are distributed with, OEM versions of Windows do not allow upgrades. Windows Vista retail FPP can be transferred according to the license agreement. -- Andre Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com My Vista Quickstart Guide: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry "Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:x_Rhj.14469$O01.956@xxxxxx-win.ntli.net... Quote: >I have a generic OEM Vista DVD and product key (System Builder Disc). If I >install Vista without entering the product key, I get the Retail EULA shown >(it states EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_RTL_en-US at the bottom). If I use >the same disc and enter my product key, I get the OEM EULA >(EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US). > > Does this mean that an OEM key can be used on a Retail disc and > vise-versa? I know with XP, the OEM/Retail keys were specific to the media > and couldn't be swapped. > > |
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01-12-2008
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| | Re: OEM and Retail Vista DVDs identical? "OEM versions of Windows do not allow upgrades!" How did all the people that bought OEM computers pre-installed with XP manage to upgrade to Vista????? You are dangerous on here!!!! This is being all logged! "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote: Quote: > No, OEM Keys are hard coded to system they are distributed with, OEM > versions of Windows do not allow upgrades. Windows Vista retail FPP can be > transferred according to the license agreement. > -- > Andre > Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com > My Vista Quickstart Guide: > http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry > "Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:x_Rhj.14469$O01.956@xxxxxx-win.ntli.net... Quote: > >I have a generic OEM Vista DVD and product key (System Builder Disc). If I > >install Vista without entering the product key, I get the Retail EULA shown > >(it states EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_RTL_en-US at the bottom). If I use > >the same disc and enter my product key, I get the OEM EULA > >(EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US). > > > > Does this mean that an OEM key can be used on a Retail disc and > > vise-versa? I know with XP, the OEM/Retail keys were specific to the media > > and couldn't be swapped. > > > > > > |
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01-12-2008
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| | Re: OEM and Retail Vista DVDs identical? "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eYCjkoKVIHA.4880@xxxxxx Quote: > No, OEM Keys are hard coded to system they are distributed with, OEM > versions of Windows do not allow upgrades. Windows Vista retail FPP can be > transferred according to the license agreement. (as i've said before). And System Builder OEM keys are not hard-coded to anything. Quote: > -- > Andre > Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com > My Vista Quickstart Guide: > http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry > "Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:x_Rhj.14469$O01.956@xxxxxx-win.ntli.net... Quote: >>I have a generic OEM Vista DVD and product key (System Builder Disc). If I >>install Vista without entering the product key, I get the Retail EULA >>shown (it states EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_RTL_en-US at the bottom). If I >>use the same disc and enter my product key, I get the OEM EULA >>(EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US). >> >> Does this mean that an OEM key can be used on a Retail disc and >> vise-versa? I know with XP, the OEM/Retail keys were specific to the >> media and couldn't be swapped. >> >> > |
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01-12-2008
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| | Re: OEM and Retail Vista DVDs identical? Try using a Dell Vista Home Premium DVD to upgrade an XP installation on another computer. -- Andre Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com My Vista Quickstart Guide: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F7234AC9-5DBB-462D-ABFC-19699ED5F5BA@xxxxxx Quote: > "OEM versions of Windows do not allow upgrades!" > > How did all the people that bought OEM computers pre-installed with XP > manage to upgrade to Vista????? > > You are dangerous on here!!!! > > This is being all logged! > > "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote: > Quote: >> No, OEM Keys are hard coded to system they are distributed with, OEM >> versions of Windows do not allow upgrades. Windows Vista retail FPP can >> be >> transferred according to the license agreement. >> -- >> Andre >> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com >> My Vista Quickstart Guide: >> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry >> "Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:x_Rhj.14469$O01.956@xxxxxx-win.ntli.net... Quote: >> >I have a generic OEM Vista DVD and product key (System Builder Disc). If >> >I >> >install Vista without entering the product key, I get the Retail EULA >> >shown >> >(it states EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_RTL_en-US at the bottom). If I use >> >the same disc and enter my product key, I get the OEM EULA >> >(EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US). >> > >> > Does this mean that an OEM key can be used on a Retail disc and >> > vise-versa? I know with XP, the OEM/Retail keys were specific to the >> > media >> > and couldn't be swapped. >> > >> > >> >> |
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01-12-2008
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| | Re: OEM and Retail Vista DVDs identical? > Quote: > This is being all logged! > LOL - by whom and for what purpose? -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ |
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01-12-2008
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| | Re: OEM and Retail Vista DVDs identical? "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O2MoFQSVIHA.3676@xxxxxx Quote: > Try using a Dell Vista Home Premium DVD to upgrade an XP installation on > another computer. MS supplied one with no PC manufacturer modifications). These are, as far as I can tell, identical to Retail media. Quote: > -- > Andre > Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com > My Vista Quickstart Guide: > http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry > "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:F7234AC9-5DBB-462D-ABFC-19699ED5F5BA@xxxxxx Quote: >> "OEM versions of Windows do not allow upgrades!" >> >> How did all the people that bought OEM computers pre-installed with XP >> manage to upgrade to Vista????? >> >> You are dangerous on here!!!! >> >> This is being all logged! >> >> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote: >> Quote: >>> No, OEM Keys are hard coded to system they are distributed with, OEM >>> versions of Windows do not allow upgrades. Windows Vista retail FPP can >>> be >>> transferred according to the license agreement. >>> -- >>> Andre >>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com >>> My Vista Quickstart Guide: >>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry >>> "Brian W" <brian.wescombeSODOFF@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:x_Rhj.14469$O01.956@xxxxxx-win.ntli.net... >>> >I have a generic OEM Vista DVD and product key (System Builder Disc). >>> >If I >>> >install Vista without entering the product key, I get the Retail EULA >>> >shown >>> >(it states EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_RTL_en-US at the bottom). If I >>> >use >>> >the same disc and enter my product key, I get the OEM EULA >>> >(EULAID:VISTA_RM.0_CONSUMER_OEM_en-US). >>> > >>> > Does this mean that an OEM key can be used on a Retail disc and >>> > vise-versa? I know with XP, the OEM/Retail keys were specific to the >>> > media >>> > and couldn't be swapped. >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> > |
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01-13-2008
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| | Re: OEM and Retail Vista DVDs identical? "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:u%23Sh35gVIHA.5132@xxxxxx Quote: > Brian W wrote: Quote: >> >> >> >> As I've said, one can do an in-place upgrade from XP to Vista using an >> OEM product key (a generic system builder key, not one supplied on the >> side of a PC from Dell etc). I have done this, and it does work. It acts >> just like a Full Retail key. >> >> > > And were you also using a generic OEM DVD? |
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01-13-2008
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| | Re: OEM and Retail Vista DVDs identical? "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:u4sEBohVIHA.5360@xxxxxx Quote: > Brian W wrote: Quote: >> >> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:u%23Sh35gVIHA.5132@xxxxxx Quote: >>> Brian W wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As I've said, one can do an in-place upgrade from XP to Vista using an >>>> OEM product key (a generic system builder key, not one supplied on the >>>> side of a PC from Dell etc). I have done this, and it does work. It >>>> acts just like a Full Retail key. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> And were you also using a generic OEM DVD? >> Yes I was. >> >> > > This is a radical departure from the practices/policies established for > previous Microsoft operating systems, then. I wonder if it was > intentional, or if you've found an inadvertent loophole that will someday > be closed. that MS said OEM keys could be used for doing upgrades from XP. Can't remember the source of the article now though |
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01-13-2008
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| | Re: OEM and Retail Vista DVDs identical? Bruce Chambers wrote: Quote: > Brian W wrote: Quote: >> >> "Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:u%23Sh35gVIHA.5132@xxxxxx Quote: >>> Brian W wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As I've said, one can do an in-place upgrade from XP to Vista using >>>> an OEM product key (a generic system builder key, not one supplied >>>> on the side of a PC from Dell etc). I have done this, and it does >>>> work. It acts just like a Full Retail key. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> And were you also using a generic OEM DVD? >> Yes I was. >> >> > > This is a radical departure from the practices/policies established > for previous Microsoft operating systems, then. I wonder if it was > intentional, or if you've found an inadvertent loophole that will > someday be closed. > > the last release candidate. I was surprised as anyone that it had created an *.old folder, which I noticed when looking for a different folder. -- norm |
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