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Old 01-15-2008   #1 (permalink)
drewex


 
 

Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

HI all,
I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the new
laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do this.
Most importantly any charge? Thanks.

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Old 01-15-2008   #2 (permalink)
drewex


 
 

RE: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

I forgot write that i am ok rebuilding the old machine but i really need to
copy my stuff to new machine and upgrade the new machine using the new
install cd. So I guess my main question is can i upgrade using the same cd
again.

"drewex" wrote:
Quote:

> HI all,
> I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
> from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
> planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
> user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
> machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the new
> laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do this.
> Most importantly any charge? Thanks.
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Old 01-15-2008   #3 (permalink)
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]


 
 

Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

I don't see a problem, just as long as you own an additional license for
Vista Ultimate to upgrade the Vista Home Premium installation.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"drewex" <drewex@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:A78E444C-1333-4AC6-BEEC-68FCF5A63C46@xxxxxx
Quote:

> HI all,
> I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
> from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
> planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
> user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
> machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the
> new
> laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do this.
> Most importantly any charge? Thanks.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-15-2008   #4 (permalink)
drewex


 
 

Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

Yea but the upgrade cd is already used on my old machine. wouldnt that cause
a problem in validation.

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
Quote:

> I don't see a problem, just as long as you own an additional license for
> Vista Ultimate to upgrade the Vista Home Premium installation.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "drewex" <drewex@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:A78E444C-1333-4AC6-BEEC-68FCF5A63C46@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > HI all,
> > I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
> > from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
> > planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
> > user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
> > machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the
> > new
> > laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do this.
> > Most importantly any charge? Thanks.
>
>
>
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Old 01-15-2008   #5 (permalink)
gw


 
 

Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium


"drewex" <drewex@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:A78E444C-1333-4AC6-BEEC-68FCF5A63C46@xxxxxx
Quote:

> HI all,
> I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
> from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
> planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
> user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
> machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the
> new
> laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do this.
> Most importantly any charge? Thanks.
You would be OK re-using your upgrade to Ultimate (as long as you un-install
it from your other machine first.) You will probably have to activate by
phone.

However, you can't use the Vista Home Premium from the new laptop on the old
laptop. First, laptops almost always use OEM SLP licenses, which are tied to
specific hardware on the laptop. They are not transferable to other
hardware. Second, if your Ultimate license is an upgrade (not full version),
it needs to be installed on top of a qualifying version of Windows. The
original Home Premium license on the new laptop becomes part of the Ultimate
Upgrade. You can't re-use the Home Premium license.


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Old 01-15-2008   #6 (permalink)
alexB


 
 

Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

I don't think so because your first upgrade could have been screwed up and
it is not the MS intend to make your life miserable.

"drewex" <drewex@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8273DA11-AF32-499F-B67D-A0C0606B1035@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Yea but the upgrade cd is already used on my old machine. wouldnt that
> cause
> a problem in validation.
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> I don't see a problem, just as long as you own an additional license for
>> Vista Ultimate to upgrade the Vista Home Premium installation.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "drewex" <drewex@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:A78E444C-1333-4AC6-BEEC-68FCF5A63C46@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > HI all,
>> > I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to
>> > upgrade
>> > from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
>> > planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps,
>> > codes,
>> > user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
>> > machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with
>> > the
>> > new
>> > laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do
>> > this.
>> > Most importantly any charge? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
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Old 01-15-2008   #7 (permalink)
Mick Murphy


 
 

Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

You can't see anything, you drunkard!

"Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
Quote:

> I don't see a problem, just as long as you own an additional license for
> Vista Ultimate to upgrade the Vista Home Premium installation.
> --
> Andre
> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
> "drewex" <drewex@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:A78E444C-1333-4AC6-BEEC-68FCF5A63C46@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > HI all,
> > I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
> > from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
> > planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
> > user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
> > machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the
> > new
> > laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do this.
> > Most importantly any charge? Thanks.
>
>
>
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Old 01-15-2008   #8 (permalink)
Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]


 
 

Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

No, its the license that determines what can be installed, not the physical
media. The only different here is that your media is an upgrade, the thing
to take into consideration too is that you have a qualifying version of
Windows Vista already installed. Its not the amount of times you have used
the physical media.
--
Andre
Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
My Vista Quickstart Guide:
http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
"drewex" <drewex@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8273DA11-AF32-499F-B67D-A0C0606B1035@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Yea but the upgrade cd is already used on my old machine. wouldnt that
> cause
> a problem in validation.
>
> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> I don't see a problem, just as long as you own an additional license for
>> Vista Ultimate to upgrade the Vista Home Premium installation.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>> "drewex" <drewex@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:A78E444C-1333-4AC6-BEEC-68FCF5A63C46@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > HI all,
>> > I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to
>> > upgrade
>> > from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
>> > planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps,
>> > codes,
>> > user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
>> > machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with
>> > the
>> > new
>> > laptop. Is this possible. Do i have to call any microsft line to do
>> > this.
>> > Most importantly any charge? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>

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Old 01-15-2008   #9 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP


 
 

Re: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:40:05 -0800, drewex
<drewex@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> HI all,
> I have an laptop with windows vista ultimate which i used a cd to upgrade
> from xp. I am buying a new computer with windows vista home premium. Im
> planing to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer my apps, codes,
> user settings and so on. I want to use the cd i have to upgrade the new
> machine and downgrade the old one to vista premium thats coming with the new
> laptop. Is this possible


No, there are three problems with putting Home Premium on the old
computer:

1. You couldn't literally downgrade from Ultimate to Home Premium
since downgrades are never supported. You would have to do a clean
installation.

2. The EULA for the copy of Vista that will come with your new
computer prohibits this. The copy of Vista Home Premium that comes
with your laptop is an OEM version, and OEM versions are permanently
tied by the EULA to the computer they come with. They can never
legally be sold or given away without the computer, or transferred to
another computer.

3. Most computers these days that come with preinstalled Windows have
their copy of Windows BIOS-locked to the particular computer. You
won't be able to use it on any other computer.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
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Old 01-18-2008   #10 (permalink)
drewex


 
 

RE: Downgrade vista ultimate to home premium

Thanks all, Good knowlage

I have one more question, I got iis and few ultimate(business) functions on
my old laptop, I was gonig to use Windows Easy Transfer Companion to transfer
over studio, office, codes in iis and so on. Well since the new laptop
initally doesnt have some freatures. would this be a problem. and what type
of transfer do you guys suggest to do, should i use Windows Easy Transfer
Companion or just do clean installs of everything. I really dont want to go
trough installing everything one by one.
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