"nelcatjar" wrote:

> Is anyone else getting Vista Crahses? Here is a whole thread on Microsoft
> Forums on Vista Crashes. I'm getting Vista crashes as well.
>
> http://forums.microsoft.com/msdn/sho...&tf=0&pageid=0
>
> (Vista does not seem to be stable enough for mainstream use in my opinion)

I've been running Vista Ultimate 32 BIT for almost a year with no
problems. Vista is unlike previous Windows operating systems and the
operating systems of Apple and Linux as it is based upon tighter security.
This tighter security has major impacts on applications and configurations.
You just can't do on Vista what you can haphazardly do on the other operating
systems. This is for your protection.

You will continue to have problems if you are ignorant of the workings
of the Vista OS (I am not implying that YOU are ignorant, I am simply stating
that lack of knowledge is ignorance). You need to research and study every
article you can find related to Vista. Search on all the Microsoft and
Windows websites. You need to go into your Services and investigate the
meanings, machinations and consequences of every item listed. Open up Control
Panel and research every item listed. Read the Microsoft and Windows forums
every chance you get.

If you have a question, don't get frustrated. Go to any search bar and
ask the question or type in some key words. The resulting webpages you are
directed to will contain solid information and will also lead you to other
webpages and articles associated with your query. I have rarely failed to
find answers to my questions when I search for an answer using a searchbox.

I really enjoy using Vista. Yes, it has some quirks and glitches like
any new operating system. It will improve over the years just as XP improved
over the years after service packs were issued. I have three other computers,
all running XP but I spend the majority of my time on my Vista machine. I
won't go back to using XP on a daily basis after having experienced Vista,
which in my opinion is a superior OS compared to XP.

A little advice: start over. Do a clean install of your OS. If you are
installing from a recovery partition you must uninstall all the crapware that
came with the OS. You will never use most of it. Remove anything
Norton/Symantec, McAfee, ZoneAlarm and TrendMicro. These applications are
bloated resource hogs that cause more problems than they fix. DO NOT use
registry cleaners. Clean or alter the registry yourself after you learn how
to do it. DO NOT use codec packs. Use only the individual codec you need. DO
NOT use drive cleaners. Clean the drive yourself. DO NOT use tweak software.
Tweak the OS yourself once you learn how to do it. DO NOT change your
Services settings. Once you learn how to do these things yourself you can
then let the automated software do it for you, provided you know how the
software works and what it will remove or change.

Remove all unnecessary items from the boot menu. You must be sure your
software is compatible with the OS and you must make sure you have all the
necessary, updated, Vista-specific drivers for your machine. Do not try to
install incompatible software, or learn how to change the settings in the
exe. file of the incompatible software before you attempt to install the
application. Don't clutter your desktop with unnecessary icons for your
programs. These programs can be easily started from the start menu. Don't
clutter your desktop with resource hungry gadgets.

You should use separate applications for your AV, antispy and firewall.
Don't use a "Security Suite" as they can cause conflicts within themselves
and the remainder of the OS. Use Disk Cleanup when needed and configure your
OS to make daily Restore Points. Purchase Acronis True Image or similar
software and backup your system, including program files and personal data so
that you can restore your system if necessary. If your OS came with backup
programs you can use them instead. If you wish to install third party
software and you are not sure it is Vista compliant you can run the software
in a virtual environment before installing it onto your OS.

Do you have sufficient RAM for your OS? Do you have enough drive space?
Are your chipsets (RAM and ROM) sufficient for the OS? Is your CPU enough to
handle what you wish to do? What kind of graphics controller do you have? Is
it sufficient? Have you disabled Prefetch or do you clean it regularly? Do
you clean your Pagefile when it is not necessary? Is your pagefile of
sufficient size?

You should vent your anger and frustrations at yourself for doing
things you should not do and at the third party vendors who choose to make
their products incompatible with Vista or choose to not update the drivers
for their products. Any problems you are encountering with Vista can be
easily overcome with knowledge and patience. Microsoft has sold in excess of
100,000,000 licenses for Vista? Are these sales results due to a product that
nobody wants or can use? I don't think so.

Have a nice day.

C.B.

I am by no means a tech dummy. I've built and torn down dozens of
custom boxes and I have to say the answer we just got was absurd. We
should accept an operating system that crashes, randomly changes
security rights to key portions of the operating system and just
generally sucks??? CB's suggestion was basically to run a pristine
operating system without any other applications. WHO DOES THAT??? We
have to rip, convert, program and generally use our systems and a
pristine Vista just doesn't cut it.

Back to the problem at hand. I have been getting dozens or security
rights errors on Vista Home Premium. The Network_Service and
Local_Service accounts that used to have rights to start services no
longer have the necessary rights and in Home Premium there is no way to
edit the rights other than with the command line. Media Center is
dieing right before my eyes. I can restart my machine and within
minutes see it's related services stop functioning.

My only hope now is that SP1 fixes the errors...


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>
> I am by no means a tech dummy. I've built and torn down dozens of
> custom boxes and I have to say the answer we just got was absurd. We
> should accept an operating system that crashes, randomly changes
> security rights to key portions of the operating system and just
> generally sucks??? CB's suggestion was basically to run a pristine
> operating system without any other applications. WHO DOES THAT??? We
> have to rip, convert, program and generally use our systems and a
> pristine Vista just doesn't cut it.
>
> Back to the problem at hand. I have been getting dozens or security
> rights errors on Vista Home Premium. The Network_Service and
> Local_Service accounts that used to have rights to start services no
> longer have the necessary rights and in Home Premium there is no way to
> edit the rights other than with the command line. Media Center is
> dieing right before my eyes. I can restart my machine and within
> minutes see it's related services stop functioning.
>
> My only hope now is that SP1 fixes the errors...
>
>
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