Vista - 5342 and 5365 are indeed under an NDA.

Dear Zack and Andre:

I just thought that I would let you know that I read the following on
Neowin.net: Builds 5342 and 5365 are Microsoft Internal Builds. This means
that they (5342 and 5365) are indeed under a Microsoft NDA, because they are
Microsoft Internal Builds (all Microsoft Internal Builds are always under a
Microsoft NDA).

Kevin John Panzke

MSDN OS Level Subscriber.

Well, I am waiting for your Reply. :-)

"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eka4ToJbGHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Dear Zack and Andre:
>
> I just thought that I would let you know that I read the following on
> Neowin.net: Builds 5342 and 5365 are Microsoft Internal Builds. This
> means that they (5342 and 5365) are indeed under a Microsoft NDA, because
> they are Microsoft Internal Builds (all Microsoft Internal Builds are
> always under a Microsoft NDA).
>
> Kevin John Panzke
>
> MSDN OS Level Subscriber.
>

Congraduations to all Official Beta Tester's who Posted either a Question or
a Comment about Builds 5342 and 5365:

You Guy's and Gal's Violated Your NDA's.

"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well, I am waiting for your Reply. :-)
>
> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eka4ToJbGHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Dear Zack and Andre:
>>
>> I just thought that I would let you know that I read the following
>> on Neowin.net: Builds 5342 and 5365 are Microsoft Internal Builds. This
>> means that they (5342 and 5365) are indeed under a Microsoft NDA, because
>> they are Microsoft Internal Builds (all Microsoft Internal Builds are
>> always under a Microsoft NDA).
>>
>> Kevin John Panzke
>>
>> MSDN OS Level Subscriber.
>>
>
>

You, as usual, are laboring under a false premise.

"Microsoft Internal Builds" are *exactly* what their name implies:
"internal-to-Microsoft" builds which are not available outside Microsoft.

Once a build is made available to non-Microsofties, they're not "internal builds".

Windows Vista is not under NDA...period.





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"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Well, I am waiting for your Reply. :-)

> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eka4ToJbGHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Dear Zack and Andre:
>>
>> I just thought that I would let you know that I read the following on Neowin.net: Builds
>> 5342 and 5365 are Microsoft Internal Builds. This means that they (5342 and 5365) are indeed
>> under a Microsoft NDA, because they are Microsoft Internal Builds (all Microsoft Internal Builds
>> are always under a Microsoft NDA).
>>
>> Kevin John Panzke
>>
>> MSDN OS Level Subscriber.
>>
>
>

Here is an Excerpt from the Neowin.net Forums:

^^ IIRC, Connect TOS say that you can't post FAQs either. Let alone
information provided in document form...

"Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:eQwWN3JbGHA.4580@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> You, as usual, are laboring under a false premise.
>
> "Microsoft Internal Builds" are *exactly* what their name implies:
> "internal-to-Microsoft" builds which are not available outside Microsoft.
>
> Once a build is made available to non-Microsofties, they're not "internal
> builds".
>
> Windows Vista is not under NDA...period.
>
>
>
>
>
> Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
> aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
> asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
> foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
> ===================================
> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23igRDwJbGHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Well, I am waiting for your Reply. :-)
>
>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eka4ToJbGHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Dear Zack and Andre:
>>>
>>> I just thought that I would let you know that I read the following
>>> on Neowin.net: Builds 5342 and 5365 are Microsoft Internal Builds.
>>> This means that they (5342 and 5365) are indeed under a Microsoft NDA,
>>> because they are Microsoft Internal Builds (all Microsoft Internal
>>> Builds are always under a Microsoft NDA).
>>>
>>> Kevin John Panzke
>>>
>>> MSDN OS Level Subscriber.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Well, I am waiting for your Reply. :-)

"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uJVcO9JbGHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Here is an Excerpt from the Neowin.net Forums:
>
> ^^ IIRC, Connect TOS say that you can't post FAQs either. Let alone
> information provided in document form...
>
> "Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:eQwWN3JbGHA.4580@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> You, as usual, are laboring under a false premise.
>>
>> "Microsoft Internal Builds" are *exactly* what their name implies:
>> "internal-to-Microsoft" builds which are not available outside Microsoft.
>>
>> Once a build is made available to non-Microsofties, they're not "internal
>> builds".
>>
>> Windows Vista is not under NDA...period.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
>> aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
>> asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
>> foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
>> ===================================
>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23igRDwJbGHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Well, I am waiting for your Reply. :-)
>>
>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eka4ToJbGHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Dear Zack and Andre:
>>>>
>>>> I just thought that I would let you know that I read the following
>>>> on Neowin.net: Builds 5342 and 5365 are Microsoft Internal Builds.
>>>> This means that they (5342 and 5365) are indeed under a Microsoft NDA,
>>>> because they are Microsoft Internal Builds (all Microsoft Internal
>>>> Builds are always under a Microsoft NDA).
>>>>
>>>> Kevin John Panzke
>>>>
>>>> MSDN OS Level Subscriber.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Kevin John Panzke wrote:

> Well, I am waiting for your Reply. :-)

Have you ever thought about getting a real life?
Frank

NeoWin is not Microsoft, I have 5365 build and the EULA does not say such
nonsense. Honestly, that site needs to be shutdown for 10 years.
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"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eka4ToJbGHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Dear Zack and Andre:
>
> I just thought that I would let you know that I read the following on
> Neowin.net: Builds 5342 and 5365 are Microsoft Internal Builds. This
> means that they (5342 and 5365) are indeed under a Microsoft NDA, because
> they are Microsoft Internal Builds (all Microsoft Internal Builds are
> always under a Microsoft NDA).
>
> Kevin John Panzke
>
> MSDN OS Level Subscriber.
>

Nothing about Vista builds is yet public. In the past, MS always considered
beta releases to parties as NDA releases. This did not matter whether it
was an official release build, or a weekly internal build. You get the
release because you are part of an accepted group. I don't think this has
changed with Vista.

Microsoft regularly makes internal builds available to accepted group
members who are not part of MS. However the constraints about release of
information and product still apply.

Ed


"Juan T. Llibre" <nomailreplies@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:eQwWN3JbGHA.4580@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> You, as usual, are laboring under a false premise.
>
> "Microsoft Internal Builds" are *exactly* what their name implies:
> "internal-to-Microsoft" builds which are not available outside Microsoft.
>
> Once a build is made available to non-Microsofties, they're not "internal
> builds".
>
> Windows Vista is not under NDA...period.
>
>
>
>
>
> Juan T. Llibre, asp.net MVP
> aspnetfaq.com : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
> asp.net faq : http://asp.net.do/faq/
> foros de asp.net, en español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
> ===================================
> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23igRDwJbGHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Well, I am waiting for your Reply. :-)
>
>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:eka4ToJbGHA.1008@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Dear Zack and Andre:
>>>
>>> I just thought that I would let you know that I read the following
>>> on Neowin.net: Builds 5342 and 5365 are Microsoft Internal Builds.
>>> This means that they (5342 and 5365) are indeed under a Microsoft NDA,
>>> because they are Microsoft Internal Builds (all Microsoft Internal
>>> Builds are always under a Microsoft NDA).
>>>
>>> Kevin John Panzke
>>>
>>> MSDN OS Level Subscriber.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
> NeoWin is not Microsoft, I have 5365 build and the EULA does not say such
> nonsense. Honestly, that site needs to be shutdown for 10 years.

For Pete's sake guys, just IGNORE Kevin. Are you incapable of learning?