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By Daisuke Wakabayashi and Eric Auchard Fri Jul 28, 5:12 AM ET



REDMOND, Washington (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq:MSFT - news) on
Thursday failed to quash fears that a new version of its Windows software
system would be further delayed, stirring concerns that a new technology
cycle tied to the upgrade could be put on hold.

This uncertainty over when Microsoft and the rest of hi-tech would benefit
from the surge in revenue growth that typically accompanies a major Windows
upgrade led Microsoft's shares to close down 2 percent at $23.87 on the
Nasdaq on Thursday.

"We will ship Windows Vista when it is available," Kevin Johnson,
co-president of Microsoft's platforms and services unit, said at the
company's annual financial analysts' meeting, adding that Microsoft would
take the project "milestone by milestone."

Windows sits on more than 90 percent of the world's personal computers.

Windows Vista, already five years in the making, has been postponed by
Microsoft several times. Quality assurance delays have put off the consumer
version of Windows until early 2007 -- after the crucial holiday shopping
season.

Vista is set to ship to corporate customers this November.

Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said the cautious comments represent a
delayed confirmation of his thesis that Microsoft would not begin to see
revenue from the general availability of Windows Vista until March or April
2007.

"When they hesitate, that's confirmation we were right," he said. Microsoft
has consistently been this cautious in the past, an acknowledgment of its
history of slipping a few months beyond initial targets for major software
releases, Sherlund said.

It needs to be delayed and the more delay the better.

CH


"Todd" <Noname@NoSpam.invalid> wrote in message
news:OS3FLKXtGHA.3552@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> From www.netscape.com/ Yahoo News
>
> By Daisuke Wakabayashi and Eric Auchard Fri Jul 28, 5:12 AM ET
>
> REDMOND, Washington (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq:MSFT - news) on
> Thursday failed to quash fears that a new version of its Windows software
> system would be further delayed, stirring concerns that a new technology
> cycle tied to the upgrade could be put on hold.
>
> This uncertainty over when Microsoft and the rest of hi-tech would benefit
> from the surge in revenue growth that typically accompanies a major
> Windows
> upgrade led Microsoft's shares to close down 2 percent at $23.87 on the
> Nasdaq on Thursday.
>
> "We will ship Windows Vista when it is available," Kevin Johnson,
> co-president of Microsoft's platforms and services unit, said at the
> company's annual financial analysts' meeting, adding that Microsoft would
> take the project "milestone by milestone."
>
> Windows sits on more than 90 percent of the world's personal computers.
>
> Windows Vista, already five years in the making, has been postponed by
> Microsoft several times. Quality assurance delays have put off the
> consumer
> version of Windows until early 2007 -- after the crucial holiday shopping
> season.
>
> Vista is set to ship to corporate customers this November.
>
> Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said the cautious comments represent a
> delayed confirmation of his thesis that Microsoft would not begin to see
> revenue from the general availability of Windows Vista until March or
> April
> 2007.
>
> "When they hesitate, that's confirmation we were right," he said.
> Microsoft
> has consistently been this cautious in the past, an acknowledgment of its
> history of slipping a few months beyond initial targets for major software
> releases, Sherlund said.
>
>

Release it finished or don't release it?

"Chad Harris" <RemoveHezbullahtotally@clearview.net> wrote in message
news:%23LMoYQYtGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> It needs to be delayed and the more delay the better.
>
> CH
>
>
> "Todd" <Noname@NoSpam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:OS3FLKXtGHA.3552@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> From www.netscape.com/ Yahoo News
>>
>> By Daisuke Wakabayashi and Eric Auchard Fri Jul 28, 5:12 AM ET
>>
>> REDMOND, Washington (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq:MSFT - news) on
>> Thursday failed to quash fears that a new version of its Windows software
>> system would be further delayed, stirring concerns that a new technology
>> cycle tied to the upgrade could be put on hold.
>>
>> This uncertainty over when Microsoft and the rest of hi-tech would
>> benefit
>> from the surge in revenue growth that typically accompanies a major
>> Windows
>> upgrade led Microsoft's shares to close down 2 percent at $23.87 on the
>> Nasdaq on Thursday.
>>
>> "We will ship Windows Vista when it is available," Kevin Johnson,
>> co-president of Microsoft's platforms and services unit, said at the
>> company's annual financial analysts' meeting, adding that Microsoft would
>> take the project "milestone by milestone."
>>
>> Windows sits on more than 90 percent of the world's personal computers.
>>
>> Windows Vista, already five years in the making, has been postponed by
>> Microsoft several times. Quality assurance delays have put off the
>> consumer
>> version of Windows until early 2007 -- after the crucial holiday shopping
>> season.
>>
>> Vista is set to ship to corporate customers this November.
>>
>> Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said the cautious comments represent
>> a
>> delayed confirmation of his thesis that Microsoft would not begin to see
>> revenue from the general availability of Windows Vista until March or
>> April
>> 2007.
>>
>> "When they hesitate, that's confirmation we were right," he said.
>> Microsoft
>> has consistently been this cautious in the past, an acknowledgment of its
>> history of slipping a few months beyond initial targets for major
>> software
>> releases, Sherlund said.
>>
>>
>
>

That brings up the epistemological and metaphysical question as to how
anyone can conceive Windows or other MSFT software as anything but perpetual
Beta.

CH

"Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103REMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OzpOKTYtGHA.2020@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Release it finished or don't release it?
>
> "Chad Harris" <RemoveHezbullahtotally@clearview.net> wrote in message
> news:%23LMoYQYtGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> It needs to be delayed and the more delay the better.
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>> "Todd" <Noname@NoSpam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:OS3FLKXtGHA.3552@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> From www.netscape.com/ Yahoo News
>>>
>>> By Daisuke Wakabayashi and Eric Auchard Fri Jul 28, 5:12 AM ET
>>>
>>> REDMOND, Washington (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq:MSFT - news) on
>>> Thursday failed to quash fears that a new version of its Windows
>>> software
>>> system would be further delayed, stirring concerns that a new technology
>>> cycle tied to the upgrade could be put on hold.
>>>
>>> This uncertainty over when Microsoft and the rest of hi-tech would
>>> benefit
>>> from the surge in revenue growth that typically accompanies a major
>>> Windows
>>> upgrade led Microsoft's shares to close down 2 percent at $23.87 on the
>>> Nasdaq on Thursday.
>>>
>>> "We will ship Windows Vista when it is available," Kevin Johnson,
>>> co-president of Microsoft's platforms and services unit, said at the
>>> company's annual financial analysts' meeting, adding that Microsoft
>>> would
>>> take the project "milestone by milestone."
>>>
>>> Windows sits on more than 90 percent of the world's personal computers.
>>>
>>> Windows Vista, already five years in the making, has been postponed by
>>> Microsoft several times. Quality assurance delays have put off the
>>> consumer
>>> version of Windows until early 2007 -- after the crucial holiday
>>> shopping
>>> season.
>>>
>>> Vista is set to ship to corporate customers this November.
>>>
>>> Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said the cautious comments represent
>>> a
>>> delayed confirmation of his thesis that Microsoft would not begin to see
>>> revenue from the general availability of Windows Vista until March or
>>> April
>>> 2007.
>>>
>>> "When they hesitate, that's confirmation we were right," he said.
>>> Microsoft
>>> has consistently been this cautious in the past, an acknowledgment of
>>> its
>>> history of slipping a few months beyond initial targets for major
>>> software
>>> releases, Sherlund said.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

The problem is that Windows is a continum along which are milestones which
are the major releases like XP, Vista, and Vienna. It is never fininished.
In the end, MS will release Vista for a combination of reasons, only some of
which are technical. Windows is an ecosystem, not just the bits.

"Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103REMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OzpOKTYtGHA.2020@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Release it finished or don't release it?
>
> "Chad Harris" <RemoveHezbullahtotally@clearview.net> wrote in message
> news:%23LMoYQYtGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> It needs to be delayed and the more delay the better.
>>
>> CH
>>
>>
>> "Todd" <Noname@NoSpam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:OS3FLKXtGHA.3552@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> From www.netscape.com/ Yahoo News
>>>
>>> By Daisuke Wakabayashi and Eric Auchard Fri Jul 28, 5:12 AM ET
>>>
>>> REDMOND, Washington (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq:MSFT - news) on
>>> Thursday failed to quash fears that a new version of its Windows
>>> software
>>> system would be further delayed, stirring concerns that a new technology
>>> cycle tied to the upgrade could be put on hold.
>>>
>>> This uncertainty over when Microsoft and the rest of hi-tech would
>>> benefit
>>> from the surge in revenue growth that typically accompanies a major
>>> Windows
>>> upgrade led Microsoft's shares to close down 2 percent at $23.87 on the
>>> Nasdaq on Thursday.
>>>
>>> "We will ship Windows Vista when it is available," Kevin Johnson,
>>> co-president of Microsoft's platforms and services unit, said at the
>>> company's annual financial analysts' meeting, adding that Microsoft
>>> would
>>> take the project "milestone by milestone."
>>>
>>> Windows sits on more than 90 percent of the world's personal computers.
>>>
>>> Windows Vista, already five years in the making, has been postponed by
>>> Microsoft several times. Quality assurance delays have put off the
>>> consumer
>>> version of Windows until early 2007 -- after the crucial holiday
>>> shopping
>>> season.
>>>
>>> Vista is set to ship to corporate customers this November.
>>>
>>> Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said the cautious comments represent
>>> a
>>> delayed confirmation of his thesis that Microsoft would not begin to see
>>> revenue from the general availability of Windows Vista until March or
>>> April
>>> 2007.
>>>
>>> "When they hesitate, that's confirmation we were right," he said.
>>> Microsoft
>>> has consistently been this cautious in the past, an acknowledgment of
>>> its
>>> history of slipping a few months beyond initial targets for major
>>> software
>>> releases, Sherlund said.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Agreed to both of your responses.

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:ODkIODZtGHA.4080@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> The problem is that Windows is a continum along which are milestones which
> are the major releases like XP, Vista, and Vienna. It is never
> fininished. In the end, MS will release Vista for a combination of
> reasons, only some of which are technical. Windows is an ecosystem, not
> just the bits.
>
> "Mark D. VandenBerg" <mvan103REMOVE@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OzpOKTYtGHA.2020@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Release it finished or don't release it?
>>
>> "Chad Harris" <RemoveHezbullahtotally@clearview.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23LMoYQYtGHA.3264@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> It needs to be delayed and the more delay the better.
>>>
>>> CH
>>>
>>>
>>> "Todd" <Noname@NoSpam.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:OS3FLKXtGHA.3552@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> From www.netscape.com/ Yahoo News
>>>>
>>>> By Daisuke Wakabayashi and Eric Auchard Fri Jul 28, 5:12 AM ET
>>>>
>>>> REDMOND, Washington (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. (Nasdaq:MSFT - news) on
>>>> Thursday failed to quash fears that a new version of its Windows
>>>> software
>>>> system would be further delayed, stirring concerns that a new
>>>> technology
>>>> cycle tied to the upgrade could be put on hold.
>>>>
>>>> This uncertainty over when Microsoft and the rest of hi-tech would
>>>> benefit
>>>> from the surge in revenue growth that typically accompanies a major
>>>> Windows
>>>> upgrade led Microsoft's shares to close down 2 percent at $23.87 on the
>>>> Nasdaq on Thursday.
>>>>
>>>> "We will ship Windows Vista when it is available," Kevin Johnson,
>>>> co-president of Microsoft's platforms and services unit, said at the
>>>> company's annual financial analysts' meeting, adding that Microsoft
>>>> would
>>>> take the project "milestone by milestone."
>>>>
>>>> Windows sits on more than 90 percent of the world's personal computers.
>>>>
>>>> Windows Vista, already five years in the making, has been postponed by
>>>> Microsoft several times. Quality assurance delays have put off the
>>>> consumer
>>>> version of Windows until early 2007 -- after the crucial holiday
>>>> shopping
>>>> season.
>>>>
>>>> Vista is set to ship to corporate customers this November.
>>>>
>>>> Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said the cautious comments
>>>> represent a
>>>> delayed confirmation of his thesis that Microsoft would not begin to
>>>> see
>>>> revenue from the general availability of Windows Vista until March or
>>>> April
>>>> 2007.
>>>>
>>>> "When they hesitate, that's confirmation we were right," he said.
>>>> Microsoft
>>>> has consistently been this cautious in the past, an acknowledgment of
>>>> its
>>>> history of slipping a few months beyond initial targets for major
>>>> software
>>>> releases, Sherlund said.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 12:03:59 -0400, "Chad Harris"
<RemoveHezbullahtotally@clearview.net> wrote:

>It needs to be delayed and the more delay the better.
>
>CH
>
Snip

Good job 2 of the responders to this thread did not take my bet last
month re release in Q1 or Q2 2007?

U know who you are guys

8-)

Jonah