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Old 02-01-2008   #1 (permalink)
bbibowen


 
 

NEW Vista PC with Older Software & Hardware?

I have read a few of the Vista compatibility threads with interest. It
appears most of these deal with upgrading from XP to Vista. My question is a
bit different - I think:

My old PC (which was running Windows 2000 Pro) has bit the bullet. I need to
purchase a new machine. All the new machines that I am finding in my price
range use Vista.

I do not have any more budget to buy all new software versions in addition
to a new pc, or a new printer.

Am I "out-to-lunch" to hope that my old MS Office 2000, MYOB Ver 11,
Quickbooks Pro 2005 will work on a new Vista system? What about an older
printer/fax/copier machine (Brother) - it's about 5 yrs old and worked just
fine with my old pc.

I appreciate your expert advice.
Thank you.

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Old 02-01-2008   #2 (permalink)
philo


 
 

Re: NEW Vista PC with Older Software & Hardware?


"bbibowen" <bbibowen@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:09DE22EB-8515-4942-A3B1-3F1830D24787@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I have read a few of the Vista compatibility threads with interest. It
> appears most of these deal with upgrading from XP to Vista. My question is
a
Quote:

> bit different - I think:
>
> My old PC (which was running Windows 2000 Pro) has bit the bullet. I need
to
Quote:

> purchase a new machine. All the new machines that I am finding in my price
> range use Vista.
>
> I do not have any more budget to buy all new software versions in addition
> to a new pc, or a new printer.
>
> Am I "out-to-lunch" to hope that my old MS Office 2000, MYOB Ver 11,
> Quickbooks Pro 2005 will work on a new Vista system? What about an older
> printer/fax/copier machine (Brother) - it's about 5 yrs old and worked
just
Quote:

> fine with my old pc.
>
> I appreciate your expert advice.
> Thank you.

Why not just fix your old machine...
what's wrong with it?

There is pretty much no such thing as unfixable


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Old 02-01-2008   #3 (permalink)
Tom [Pepper] Willett


 
 

Re: NEW Vista PC with Older Software & Hardware?

Office 2000 is going to have compatibility problems.

"bbibowen" <bbibowen@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:09DE22EB-8515-4942-A3B1-3F1830D24787@xxxxxx
:I have read a few of the Vista compatibility threads with interest. It
: appears most of these deal with upgrading from XP to Vista. My question is
a
: bit different - I think:
:
: My old PC (which was running Windows 2000 Pro) has bit the bullet. I need
to
: purchase a new machine. All the new machines that I am finding in my price
: range use Vista.
:
: I do not have any more budget to buy all new software versions in addition
: to a new pc, or a new printer.
:
: Am I "out-to-lunch" to hope that my old MS Office 2000, MYOB Ver 11,
: Quickbooks Pro 2005 will work on a new Vista system? What about an older
: printer/fax/copier machine (Brother) - it's about 5 yrs old and worked
just
: fine with my old pc.
:
: I appreciate your expert advice.
: Thank you.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-01-2008   #4 (permalink)
DanS


 
 

Re: NEW Vista PC with Older Software & Hardware?

"philo" <philo@xxxxxx> wrote in
news:OANfWlRZIHA.5612@xxxxxx:
Quote:

> Why not just fix your old machine...
> what's wrong with it?
>
> There is pretty much no such thing as unfixable
I agree. Any machine more than a couple years old, but less than say, 5,
can usually be fixed for $50.....or less.

Unless it's both the MB & CPU, then a little more, but certainly not
nearly as much as buying a new system.

As a matter of fact, I just fixed someone's PC for them.

It's a P4 1.5 GHz socket 478, DDR RAM, AGP video. The MB needed
replacing, the CPU was fine, as well as all other components. There was
some issue with initializing the video in BIOS, and the video never came
on.

I could have bought a new MB for it, but not to many choices to pick
from. The least expensive NIB 478 MB was $60.

So I picked up a working used one....I know a bunch of people that deal
in a lot of used stuff........$10.

Replaced the MB, repair install, the PC's fixed, the guys happy, end of
story.

The cost of a replacement motherboard.......$10.
The cost to have Dan swap it in for him.....$20.
Seeing the face of someone who thought
they'd have to buy a new PC that they
couldn't afford, but instead only ended
up paying $30................................Priceless.

Regards,

DanS

(PS- I'm not recommending the OP *NOT* by a new system, just sharing an
experience.)










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Old 02-01-2008   #5 (permalink)
philo


 
 

Re: NEW Vista PC with Older Software & Hardware?


"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Xns9A378231CDA37thisnthatadelphianet@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "philo" <philo@xxxxxx> wrote in
> news:OANfWlRZIHA.5612@xxxxxx:
>
Quote:

> > Why not just fix your old machine...
> > what's wrong with it?
> >
> > There is pretty much no such thing as unfixable
>
> I agree. Any machine more than a couple years old, but less than say, 5,
> can usually be fixed for $50.....or less.
>
> Unless it's both the MB & CPU, then a little more, but certainly not
> nearly as much as buying a new system.
>
> As a matter of fact, I just fixed someone's PC for them.
>
> It's a P4 1.5 GHz socket 478, DDR RAM, AGP video. The MB needed
> replacing, the CPU was fine, as well as all other components. There was
> some issue with initializing the video in BIOS, and the video never came
> on.
>
> I could have bought a new MB for it, but not to many choices to pick
> from. The least expensive NIB 478 MB was $60.
>
> So I picked up a working used one....I know a bunch of people that deal
> in a lot of used stuff........$10.
>
> Replaced the MB, repair install, the PC's fixed, the guys happy, end of
> story.
>
> The cost of a replacement motherboard.......$10.
> The cost to have Dan swap it in for him.....$20.
> Seeing the face of someone who thought
> they'd have to buy a new PC that they
> couldn't afford, but instead only ended
> up paying $30................................Priceless.
>
> Regards,
>
> DanS
>
> (PS- I'm not recommending the OP *NOT* by a new system, just sharing an
> experience.)
>
>
>
Yes...I can pickup used parts for next to nothing...
I often get decent P-III motherboards with CPU and sometimes RAM for as
little as $5...if not...free...

Generally I can build an entire used machine for just a few $$$...
so to reapair an existing machine is usually no problem at all
Quote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Old 02-01-2008   #6 (permalink)
Ron


 
 

Re: NEW Vista PC with Older Software & Hardware?

get machine that has degrade rights to XP, and use XP instead of vista until
or even IF you will upgrade and want to use
vista.

Vista is not good anyway


"bbibowen" <bbibowen@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:09DE22EB-8515-4942-A3B1-3F1830D24787@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I have read a few of the Vista compatibility threads with interest. It
> appears most of these deal with upgrading from XP to Vista. My question is
> a
> bit different - I think:
>
> My old PC (which was running Windows 2000 Pro) has bit the bullet. I need
> to
> purchase a new machine. All the new machines that I am finding in my price
> range use Vista.
>
> I do not have any more budget to buy all new software versions in addition
> to a new pc, or a new printer.
>
> Am I "out-to-lunch" to hope that my old MS Office 2000, MYOB Ver 11,
> Quickbooks Pro 2005 will work on a new Vista system? What about an older
> printer/fax/copier machine (Brother) - it's about 5 yrs old and worked
> just
> fine with my old pc.
>
> I appreciate your expert advice.
> Thank you.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-01-2008   #7 (permalink)
bbibowen


 
 

Re: NEW Vista PC with Older Software & Hardware?

It was already a very old used pc and it was a temporary purchase when my
even older pc bought in 1999 finally bit the dust after6+ years. Has been
having alot of problems that I've had repaired twice. Third time it's turned
out to be hardware problems and after many hours spent trying to make things
work.... the cost in trying to figure out exactly what the hardware issues
are it makes more sense to start again considering what I paid for it and
that it was meant as an interim machine.

Thanks.

"philo" wrote:
Quote:

>
> "bbibowen" <bbibowen@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:09DE22EB-8515-4942-A3B1-3F1830D24787@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > I have read a few of the Vista compatibility threads with interest. It
> > appears most of these deal with upgrading from XP to Vista. My question is
> a
Quote:

> > bit different - I think:
> >
> > My old PC (which was running Windows 2000 Pro) has bit the bullet. I need
> to
Quote:

> > purchase a new machine. All the new machines that I am finding in my price
> > range use Vista.
> >
> > I do not have any more budget to buy all new software versions in addition
> > to a new pc, or a new printer.
> >
> > Am I "out-to-lunch" to hope that my old MS Office 2000, MYOB Ver 11,
> > Quickbooks Pro 2005 will work on a new Vista system? What about an older
> > printer/fax/copier machine (Brother) - it's about 5 yrs old and worked
> just
Quote:

> > fine with my old pc.
> >
> > I appreciate your expert advice.
> > Thank you.
>
>
> Why not just fix your old machine...
> what's wrong with it?
>
> There is pretty much no such thing as unfixable
>
>
>
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Old 02-01-2008   #8 (permalink)
philo


 
 

Re: NEW Vista PC with Older Software & Hardware?


"bbibowen" <bbibowen@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news3253A32-FAAB-4FF6-A250-631F70C65493@xxxxxx
Quote:

> It was already a very old used pc and it was a temporary purchase when my
> even older pc bought in 1999 finally bit the dust after6+ years. Has been
> having alot of problems that I've had repaired twice. Third time it's
turned
Quote:

> out to be hardware problems and after many hours spent trying to make
things
Quote:

> work.... the cost in trying to figure out exactly what the hardware issues
> are it makes more sense to start again considering what I paid for it and
> that it was meant as an interim machine.
>
> Thanks.

<snip>

Well I guess it's time for a new machine then...
sounds like you've gotten your money's worth out of that one.

If you go with Vista, there is of course the possibility that not all your
apps and H/W will work.

I suppose you could google a bit to see it all your apps will run under
Vista...
and visit the website of the mfg to see if there is a Vista support for your
printer.

If there is lack of Vista support...
do the same research for XP.

If it looks like all will work with Vista that's fine...
but if you find that XP support is more likely...
you still can purchase new machines with XP.




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Old 02-02-2008   #9 (permalink)
SG


 
 

Re: NEW Vista PC with Older Software & Hardware?

Hi,

Get your Vista machine then whatever apps won't work you can then install
Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 FREE of charge. This has been a life saver for me
and thousands of others that must run older apps for at least awhile longer.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...c/default.mspx

--
All the best,
SG
"philo" <philo@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> "bbibowen" <bbibowen@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news3253A32-FAAB-4FF6-A250-631F70C65493@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> It was already a very old used pc and it was a temporary purchase when my
>> even older pc bought in 1999 finally bit the dust after6+ years. Has been
>> having alot of problems that I've had repaired twice. Third time it's
> turned
Quote:

>> out to be hardware problems and after many hours spent trying to make
> things
Quote:

>> work.... the cost in trying to figure out exactly what the hardware
>> issues
>> are it makes more sense to start again considering what I paid for it and
>> that it was meant as an interim machine.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
>
> <snip>
>
> Well I guess it's time for a new machine then...
> sounds like you've gotten your money's worth out of that one.
>
> If you go with Vista, there is of course the possibility that not all your
> apps and H/W will work.
>
> I suppose you could google a bit to see it all your apps will run under
> Vista...
> and visit the website of the mfg to see if there is a Vista support for
> your
> printer.
>
> If there is lack of Vista support...
> do the same research for XP.
>
> If it looks like all will work with Vista that's fine...
> but if you find that XP support is more likely...
> you still can purchase new machines with XP.
>
>
>
>
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Old 02-03-2008   #10 (permalink)
AGreene156


 
 

RE: NEW Vista PC with Older Software & Hardware?

We have an older Brother All In One. I called Brother and they have a Vista
Ready CD which we purchased for a nominal fee. You might contact them to see
if this would help you.

"bbibowen" wrote:
Quote:

> I have read a few of the Vista compatibility threads with interest. It
> appears most of these deal with upgrading from XP to Vista. My question is a
> bit different - I think:
>
> My old PC (which was running Windows 2000 Pro) has bit the bullet. I need to
> purchase a new machine. All the new machines that I am finding in my price
> range use Vista.
>
> I do not have any more budget to buy all new software versions in addition
> to a new pc, or a new printer.
>
> Am I "out-to-lunch" to hope that my old MS Office 2000, MYOB Ver 11,
> Quickbooks Pro 2005 will work on a new Vista system? What about an older
> printer/fax/copier machine (Brother) - it's about 5 yrs old and worked just
> fine with my old pc.
>
> I appreciate your expert advice.
> Thank you.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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