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Old 08-02-2006   #1 (permalink)
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Network access slow? (Access to W2k3)

Hi there,
we have installed Windows Vista Beta 2 x86 (english) on an Athlon XP 1600
computer to see the new features of this new o.s.
Main problem actually recognized:
Similiar as with some older WinXP editions,we experienced a very slow read
and write access to a shared folder on an Windows 2003 server.
It seems that the access becomes more slow as bigger the accessed file is,
so a 28MBytes file may take 1-3 Minutes (!!) until it is transferred (from or
to) the server.

Yesterday, I wanted to load a 80 megabytes file from the server:
At the first trial, I blocked the transfer after about 90 minutes (!!)
At second trial, I could get the file after about 10-15 minutes (!!) from
the server.

When I try to get the same file with a Win XP pro pc, the transfer time is -
as usual - only several seconds...

As I remember, some WinXP installations in the early time of WXP, I had also
some Problems with transfer times, but there slightly different: as more
(small) files there were to transfer, as longer it took - and only when
trying to write to the server.

What could be the problem?
Any Hint?
Many thanks for any tipp!

Greetings Thomas

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Old 01-21-2008   #2 (permalink)


Vista Home Premium 32bit
 
 

Re: Network access slow? (Access to W2k3)

I am actually having the same problem with the Network. After struggling with it and turning off the firewall. I have a 3mb Excel file on the main computer that I am trying to share. It opens normal but it takes over 7 minutes to open that file remotely. While when it was on Windows XP was opening in less than 3 seconds. Also when we try to modify that file remotely it takes forever. I am 100% sure it is not an office problem (I am using the 2003 over visa). If anyone knows how to solve the problem please reply back.
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Old 05-25-2008   #3 (permalink)


Vista 64 bit
 
 

Re: Network access slow? (Access to W2k3)

Fixed the slow net work speed with Vista 64 Bit!!

built a new system last week. Reading from my win2k Raid 1 increased to 85-100% BW. Writing back was 1.4%

Applied all the fixes listed with no increase- full duplex, changing tcp settings, no firewalls, ect.
Went to Nvidia and downloaded latest set of drivers for nforce (mar 08).
My new system (May08)
I have an Asus P5N-d mobo 4GB quad 9300 cpu, Nvidia 8800 gts 640 MB. 1 GB network on 10/100 network both hard and wireless.

Nvidia's network controller driver would not install so my option was to use one from microsoft.........bingo 99% write speed to my Raid 1
Next is to get a 1 GB card for the server with cable.

When I started I do not know which drivers where on the Network controller. Windows is always updating items. It is most likely that Nvidia drivers were installed from the setup disk and Microsoft were trying to update this driver and failed so I went to the Nvidia site and downloaded the latest set of drivers. It still failed with their network controller driver and I lucked out! This is a new Mobo 750i chipset (May 08) with a small Raid 0,1,5. It is very energy efficient and my system screams with photoshop sometimes starting up in 5 - 10 secs and writing files in under 10 sec (200 MB). With Raid 1 set up I was getting 203 MB/s according to system monitor

Sp1 is also installed but did not immediately help. The big change came when I could not install the new Nvidia Network controller driver and tried the microsoft driver which maybe part of SP1, that I do not know but now every thing works great more or less.

I am saving large photoshop files (up to 4 GB) so the speed is really important. As a backup I could use my 8 GB thumb drive until I solved the problem

with xp I was getting 18% BW so Vista here is 500% better with 64 bit full memory usage. I use HD's with 32MB cache for speed.

This may or maynot be a help to some people. So many people were help full with their hints so when I got it working I though that I would give you what is working on my system.

I am out of it now but I used to be MCT, MCDBA, MCSD and two courses from MCSE. Also taught A+ for what it is worth.

Hope this helps you guys.

kaptnk 24 May 08[/quote]

Last edited by kaptnk; 05-25-2008 at 11:11 AM..
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Old 05-25-2008   #4 (permalink)
Mark L. Ferguson


 
 

Re: Network access slow? (Access to W2k3)

I would like to be sure I understand the original conditions. You obtained a
new system that did not use Microsoft controller drivers? or older Microsoft
drivers? or older nVidia drivers? What dates, if you know them, were on the
drivers, old and new. Do you think this was a 'roll back'? Or is it possible
you were simply 'refreshing' the installed driver?
I'm looking for a clue to diagnose the condition, and it's cure. I'm aware
it's hard for you to tell, but what you know about it would help. Slow copy
would indicate the problem, but knowing things like 'is it nVidia' or
whatever you were seeing might tell us something.
Thanks.
--
Mark L. Ferguson
..

"kaptnk" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:064dbe3b10c62d3bec0d18d3ce1d589d@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

>
> Fixed the slow net work speed with Vista 64 Bit!!
>
> built a new system last week. Reading from my win2k Raid 1 increased to
> 85-100% BW. Writing back was 1.4%
>
> Applied all the fixes listed with no increase- full duplex, changing
> tcp settings, no firewalls, ect.
> Went to Nvidia and downloaded latest set of drivers for nforce. I have
> an Asus P5N-d mobo 4GB. Nvidia's network controller driver would not
> install so my option was to use one from microsoft.........bingo 99%
> write speed to my Raid 1
> Next is to get a 1 GB card for the server with cable.
>
> I am saving large photoshop files (up to 4 GB) so the speed is really
> important. As a backup I could use my 8 GB thumb drive until I solved
> the problem
>
> with xp I was getting 18% BW so Vista here is 500% better with 64 bit
> full memory usage. I use HD's with 32MB cache for speed.
>
> kaptnk 24 May 08
>
>
> --
> kaptnk
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Old 05-25-2008   #5 (permalink)


Vista 64 bit
 
 

Re: Network access slow? (Access to W2k3)

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Mark L. Ferguson View Post
I would like to be sure I understand the original conditions. You obtained a
new system that did not use Microsoft controller drivers? or older Microsoft
drivers? or older nVidia drivers? What dates, if you know them, were on the
drivers, old and new. Do you think this was a 'roll back'? Or is it possible
you were simply 'refreshing' the installed driver?
I'm looking for a clue to diagnose the condition, and it's cure. I'm aware
it's hard for you to tell, but what you know about it would help. Slow copy
would indicate the problem, but knowing things like 'is it nVidia' or
whatever you were seeing might tell us something.
Thanks.
--
Mark L. Ferguson
..

"kaptnk" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:064dbe3b10c62d3bec0d18d3ce1d589d@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
The orginal drivers were from the Asus CD with auto install. Nov07 I believe.
Microsoft may or may not have changed some of these.
I installed sp1 but with no improvement.
I tried all of the above items to see if I had some setting wrong. No improvement.
I got a warning from Microsoft that the new Network controller nVidia would not install.
I went to the nVidia site and down loaded the latest files (Mar 08 I believe) and the controller had the same error message as when I tried with Microsoft.
Checked if other drivers on system and found the MS driver for the nForce Network Controller-...Bingo!
Further- small files- 1-? 3 GB run at 99%
I tried 10 GB and it went up and down from small to 75%.
A big improvement but not totally steady.
Then the system reported that I needed a new driver for a PCI bridge that the system found???

That turned out to be the Network controller again. Drivers would not install- I tried the orginal disk--nadda. I deleted the device and rebooted.
Bingo..system installed driver and hardware with MS driver.

I am back in business.......at least until it craps out ? again?

What can be learnt from all of this? Like in the olden days, it is all about getting a working device driver. It is not the OS Vista 64 but the support or lack of it in the drivers for 64 bit?
No change in cables, routers, etc.

I didn't solve this. The credit goes to the MS guys who wrote the nVidia nforce network controller driver that works. I have crashed my XP many times with nVidia ntunes which sang a poor song on my machine in XP. To me, and it may be way too early to say this, but Vista 64 seems more stable than XP

kaptnk
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