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  1. #1


    rtdavide Guest

    windows defender and Panda titanium AV

    .... is it redundant to run both? perhaps slowing the computer too
    much....

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  2. #2


    Bob Guest

    Re: windows defender and Panda titanium AV

    No, an AV program is not redundant with anti-spyware. You need both.


    <rtdavide@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:49efa7cd-291b-40c0-a12b-89f9c14c1039@xxxxxx

    > ... is it redundant to run both? perhaps slowing the computer too
    > much....

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  3. #3


    Ken Blake, MVP Guest

    Re: windows defender and Panda titanium AV

    On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:32:11 -0800 (PST), rtdavide@xxxxxx wrote:

    > ... is it redundant to run both? perhaps slowing the computer too
    > much....

    It's not at all redundant. They do two different things, and you need
    both functions:

    1. Windows Defender is an anti-spyware program

    2. Panda anti-virus is an anti-virus program.

    Two more points:

    1. Panda is not one of the better anti-virus programs, in my view.
    Instead I recommend the freeware Avast.

    2. A single anti-spyware program is not sufficient. Note what Eric
    Howes, who has done extensive testing on Anti-Spyware products,
    states:

    "No single anti-spyware scanner removes everything. Even the
    best-performing anti-spyware scanner in these tests missed fully one
    quarter of the "critical" files and Registry entries" See
    http://spywarewarrior.com/asw-test-guide.htm

    My own practice is very conservative, and I personally run all of the
    following:

    Spybot Search and Destroy
    Adaware
    Spyware Blaster
    Windows Defender
    Super-Antispyware

    I recommend running at least two from that list.

    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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  4. #4


    Mick Murphy Guest

    Re: windows defender and Panda titanium AV

    Hi Ken.

    I use Spybot Search & Destroy and Spyware Blaster.
    Spyware Blaster is good as it runs in the background, and all you have to do
    is update it, and enable the extra protection.

    AdAware went off the boil a few years ago.
    It used to be a brilliant program; now, I don't even put it on customers
    computers.

    For anti-virus, you can't beat Avast.


    "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

    > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:32:11 -0800 (PST), rtdavide@xxxxxx wrote:
    >

    > > ... is it redundant to run both? perhaps slowing the computer too
    > > much....
    >
    >
    > It's not at all redundant. They do two different things, and you need
    > both functions:
    >
    > 1. Windows Defender is an anti-spyware program
    >
    > 2. Panda anti-virus is an anti-virus program.
    >
    > Two more points:
    >
    > 1. Panda is not one of the better anti-virus programs, in my view.
    > Instead I recommend the freeware Avast.
    >
    > 2. A single anti-spyware program is not sufficient. Note what Eric
    > Howes, who has done extensive testing on Anti-Spyware products,
    > states:
    >
    > "No single anti-spyware scanner removes everything. Even the
    > best-performing anti-spyware scanner in these tests missed fully one
    > quarter of the "critical" files and Registry entries" See
    > http://spywarewarrior.com/asw-test-guide.htm
    >
    > My own practice is very conservative, and I personally run all of the
    > following:
    >
    > Spybot Search and Destroy
    > Adaware
    > Spyware Blaster
    > Windows Defender
    > Super-Antispyware
    >
    > I recommend running at least two from that list.
    >
    > --
    > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
    > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
    >

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  5. #5


    MICHAEL Guest

    Re: windows defender and Panda titanium AV

    Mick,

    SpywareBlaster doesn't "run" in the background.

    <quote>
    How does SpywareBlaster's protection work?

    -SpywareBlaster works by settings "kill bits" in the registry. These "kill
    bit" registry entries are set for the spyware ActiveX CLSIDs (unqiue IDs
    that identify an ActiveX control). When a kill bit is set for a CLSID, the
    ActiveX control that uses that CLSID cannot install itself via your browser,
    nor can it run if it already installed. Microsoft sometimes uses these kill
    bits for fixing Active-X security holes.
    </quote>


    -Michael

    "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:BB48B0DA-F2F4-4665-8A66-1F1ED8F4EFF8@xxxxxx

    > Hi Ken.
    >
    > I use Spybot Search & Destroy and Spyware Blaster.
    > Spyware Blaster is good as it runs in the background, and all you have to do
    > is update it, and enable the extra protection.
    >
    > AdAware went off the boil a few years ago.
    > It used to be a brilliant program; now, I don't even put it on customers
    > computers.
    >
    > For anti-virus, you can't beat Avast.
    >
    >
    > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
    >

    >> On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:32:11 -0800 (PST), rtdavide@xxxxxx wrote:
    >>

    >> > ... is it redundant to run both? perhaps slowing the computer too
    >> > much....
    >>
    >>
    >> It's not at all redundant. They do two different things, and you need
    >> both functions:
    >>
    >> 1. Windows Defender is an anti-spyware program
    >>
    >> 2. Panda anti-virus is an anti-virus program.
    >>
    >> Two more points:
    >>
    >> 1. Panda is not one of the better anti-virus programs, in my view.
    >> Instead I recommend the freeware Avast.
    >>
    >> 2. A single anti-spyware program is not sufficient. Note what Eric
    >> Howes, who has done extensive testing on Anti-Spyware products,
    >> states:
    >>
    >> "No single anti-spyware scanner removes everything. Even the
    >> best-performing anti-spyware scanner in these tests missed fully one
    >> quarter of the "critical" files and Registry entries" See
    >> http://spywarewarrior.com/asw-test-guide.htm
    >>
    >> My own practice is very conservative, and I personally run all of the
    >> following:
    >>
    >> Spybot Search and Destroy
    >> Adaware
    >> Spyware Blaster
    >> Windows Defender
    >> Super-Antispyware
    >>
    >> I recommend running at least two from that list.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
    >> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
    >>

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  6. #6


    Ken Blake, MVP Guest

    Re: windows defender and Panda titanium AV

    On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:22:01 -0800, Mick Murphy
    <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote:

    > Hi Ken.
    >
    > I use Spybot Search & Destroy and Spyware Blaster.
    > Spyware Blaster is good as it runs in the background,

    Actually, no. It doesn't "run" at all.


    > and all you have to do
    > is update it, and enable the extra protection.
    >
    > AdAware went off the boil a few years ago.
    > It used to be a brilliant program; now, I don't even put it on customers
    > computers.


    I don't agree, but your choice.


    > For anti-virus, you can't beat Avast.

    I think that's very likely true of freeware anti-virus programs. If
    you're willing to pay for a product, I hear very good things about
    NOD32, and I suspect that it might be better than Avast.


    > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
    >

    > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 07:32:11 -0800 (PST), rtdavide@xxxxxx wrote:
    > >

    > > > ... is it redundant to run both? perhaps slowing the computer too
    > > > much....
    > >
    > >
    > > It's not at all redundant. They do two different things, and you need
    > > both functions:
    > >
    > > 1. Windows Defender is an anti-spyware program
    > >
    > > 2. Panda anti-virus is an anti-virus program.
    > >
    > > Two more points:
    > >
    > > 1. Panda is not one of the better anti-virus programs, in my view.
    > > Instead I recommend the freeware Avast.
    > >
    > > 2. A single anti-spyware program is not sufficient. Note what Eric
    > > Howes, who has done extensive testing on Anti-Spyware products,
    > > states:
    > >
    > > "No single anti-spyware scanner removes everything. Even the
    > > best-performing anti-spyware scanner in these tests missed fully one
    > > quarter of the "critical" files and Registry entries" See
    > > http://spywarewarrior.com/asw-test-guide.htm
    > >
    > > My own practice is very conservative, and I personally run all of the
    > > following:
    > >
    > > Spybot Search and Destroy
    > > Adaware
    > > Spyware Blaster
    > > Windows Defender
    > > Super-Antispyware
    > >
    > > I recommend running at least two from that list.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
    > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
    > >
    --
    Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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