Vista - Stay or go back?

02-08-2008

"Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Thanks Kerry,
> Replacing the motherboard redefines the operation system "upgrade" concept
> to an unacceptable cost. I'll be heading back to XP for now.
>

That's what I'm having to do too, despite considerable outlay already on new
gear. What a friigging waste of money Vista is....

02-08-2008

On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga
<IngaBinga@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes 10
>times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch with
>my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and I'm
>wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles
>that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my
>printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on
>because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might miss
>is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and that's
>not nearly enough to continue.
>
>My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
>Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
>Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to
>6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?
>

Got back to XP, am running SP1 RTM on one PC and it is better, but
many basic bugs were not fixed.

02-08-2008

"Rich T" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in
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Quote:

> And why should I have to buy additional hardware just to make Vista
> work? For what advantage? I have already had to replace my perfectly
> good HP Printer and Canon Scanner because they did not work with
> Vista. I have also lots of perfectly good redundant software (eg
> expensive Adobe 6.0). There is literally nothing in Vista which
> justifies this outlay in new hardware and software - and you are now
> suggesting I pay out more to fix a really basic fundamental
> problem????

Is it a fundamental problem ? I can't answer that, there wasn't much info
to go on here about your actual problem.

02-08-2008

If you have "new gear" then you have a different problem. "New gear" should
have come designed for Vista. If you have a combination of "new gear" and
"old gear" then it is possible XP may be better. Note that this isn't a
Vista thing but a new OS thing. Ask Apple PowerPC users about it. Think back
to when XP was released and how poor some Windows 98 systems worked when you
tried to upgrade to XP. Things change. Combining old and new doesn't always
work.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/

"Rich T" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> That's what I'm having to do too, despite considerable outlay already on
> new gear. What a friigging waste of money Vista is....

02-09-2008

random usb port failure - read the post

"DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "Rich T" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in
> news:1CA44BCE-4304-4B17-94DA-22D5B1584F11@xxxxxx:
>

Quote:

>> And why should I have to buy additional hardware just to make Vista
>> work? For what advantage? I have already had to replace my perfectly
>> good HP Printer and Canon Scanner because they did not work with
>> Vista. I have also lots of perfectly good redundant software (eg
>> expensive Adobe 6.0). There is literally nothing in Vista which
>> justifies this outlay in new hardware and software - and you are now
>> suggesting I pay out more to fix a really basic fundamental
>> problem????

>
> Is it a fundamental problem ? I can't answer that, there wasn't much info
> to go on here about your actual problem.

02-10-2008

"Rich T" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in
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Quote:

> random usb port failure - read the post

I did read the post. There was not enough root info. All you said were
you too were having USB driver issues. That's like asking 'my car stalls,
what's wrong with it ?'.

What type & how many USB devices ?
Onboard (most-likely) or add-in card USB ?
When does it happen ?
Are there *any* certain conditions that seem consistant ?
Did it work OK at one point ?
Does the MB mfg have USB drivers for Vista, and did you install them ?

Just basic background info.

Quote:

>
> "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A3ED7EBB7086thisnthatadelphianet@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> "Rich T" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in
>> news:1CA44BCE-4304-4B17-94DA-22D5B1584F11@xxxxxx:
>>

Quote:

>>> And why should I have to buy additional hardware just to make Vista
>>> work? For what advantage? I have already had to replace my perfectly
>>> good HP Printer and Canon Scanner because they did not work with
>>> Vista. I have also lots of perfectly good redundant software (eg
>>> expensive Adobe 6.0). There is literally nothing in Vista which
>>> justifies this outlay in new hardware and software - and you are now
>>> suggesting I pay out more to fix a really basic fundamental
>>> problem????

>>
>> Is it a fundamental problem ? I can't answer that, there wasn't much
>> info to go on here about your actual problem.

>

02-08-2008	#11 (permalink)
Rich T n/a posts	Re: Stay or go back? "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:43A18733-2939-4E5B-BB65-579C7D0895D1@xxxxxx Quote: > Thanks Kerry, > Replacing the motherboard redefines the operation system "upgrade" concept > to an unacceptable cost. I'll be heading back to XP for now. > That's what I'm having to do too, despite considerable outlay already on new gear. What a friigging waste of money Vista is....
My System Specs

02-08-2008	#12 (permalink)
thetruthhurts @homail.com n/a posts	Re: Stay or go back? On Fri, 8 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga <IngaBinga@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes 10 >times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch with >my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and I'm >wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles >that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my >printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on >because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might miss >is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and that's >not nearly enough to continue. > >My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of >Vista but I thought I would put this out here: >Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to >6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux? > Got back to XP, am running SP1 RTM on one PC and it is better, but many basic bugs were not fixed.
My System Specs

02-08-2008	#13 (permalink)
DanS n/a posts	Re: Stay or go back? "Rich T" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in news:1CA44BCE-4304-4B17-94DA-22D5B1584F11@xxxxxx: Quote: > And why should I have to buy additional hardware just to make Vista > work? For what advantage? I have already had to replace my perfectly > good HP Printer and Canon Scanner because they did not work with > Vista. I have also lots of perfectly good redundant software (eg > expensive Adobe 6.0). There is literally nothing in Vista which > justifies this outlay in new hardware and software - and you are now > suggesting I pay out more to fix a really basic fundamental > problem???? Is it a fundamental problem ? I can't answer that, there wasn't much info to go on here about your actual problem.
My System Specs

02-08-2008	#14 (permalink)
Kerry Brown n/a posts	Re: Stay or go back? If you have "new gear" then you have a different problem. "New gear" should have come designed for Vista. If you have a combination of "new gear" and "old gear" then it is possible XP may be better. Note that this isn't a Vista thing but a new OS thing. Ask Apple PowerPC users about it. Think back to when XP was released and how poor some Windows 98 systems worked when you tried to upgrade to XP. Things change. Combining old and new doesn't always work. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Shell/User http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ "Rich T" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:AFE2118F-1754-4F6D-9771-906527CCFE4E@xxxxxx Quote: > > That's what I'm having to do too, despite considerable outlay already on > new gear. What a friigging waste of money Vista is....
My System Specs

02-09-2008	#15 (permalink)
Rich T n/a posts	Re: Stay or go back? random usb port failure - read the post "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:Xns9A3ED7EBB7086thisnthatadelphianet@xxxxxx Quote: > "Rich T" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in > news:1CA44BCE-4304-4B17-94DA-22D5B1584F11@xxxxxx: > Quote: >> And why should I have to buy additional hardware just to make Vista >> work? For what advantage? I have already had to replace my perfectly >> good HP Printer and Canon Scanner because they did not work with >> Vista. I have also lots of perfectly good redundant software (eg >> expensive Adobe 6.0). There is literally nothing in Vista which >> justifies this outlay in new hardware and software - and you are now >> suggesting I pay out more to fix a really basic fundamental >> problem???? > > Is it a fundamental problem ? I can't answer that, there wasn't much info > to go on here about your actual problem.
My System Specs

02-10-2008	#16 (permalink)
DanS n/a posts	Re: Stay or go back? "Rich T" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in news:egx0oquaIHA.4476@xxxxxx: Quote: > random usb port failure - read the post I did read the post. There was not enough root info. All you said were you too were having USB driver issues. That's like asking 'my car stalls, what's wrong with it ?'. What type & how many USB devices ? Onboard (most-likely) or add-in card USB ? When does it happen ? Are there any certain conditions that seem consistant ? Did it work OK at one point ? Does the MB mfg have USB drivers for Vista, and did you install them ? Just basic background info. Quote: > > "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:Xns9A3ED7EBB7086thisnthatadelphianet@xxxxxx Quote: >> "Rich T" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in >> news:1CA44BCE-4304-4B17-94DA-22D5B1584F11@xxxxxx: >> Quote: >>> And why should I have to buy additional hardware just to make Vista >>> work? For what advantage? I have already had to replace my perfectly >>> good HP Printer and Canon Scanner because they did not work with >>> Vista. I have also lots of perfectly good redundant software (eg >>> expensive Adobe 6.0). There is literally nothing in Vista which >>> justifies this outlay in new hardware and software - and you are now >>> suggesting I pay out more to fix a really basic fundamental >>> problem???? >> >> Is it a fundamental problem ? I can't answer that, there wasn't much >> info to go on here about your actual problem. >
My System Specs

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