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Old 02-08-2008   #1 (permalink)
Inga Binga


 
 

Stay or go back?

I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes 10
times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch with
my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and I'm
wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles
that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my
printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on
because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might miss
is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and that's
not nearly enough to continue.

My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to
6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?



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Old 02-08-2008   #2 (permalink)
DP


 
 

Re: Stay or go back?


"Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes
> 10
> times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch
> with
> my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and
> I'm
> wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other
> hassles
> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my
> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on
> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might
> miss
> is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and
> that's
> not nearly enough to continue.
>
> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3
> to
> 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?

SP1 should be out by April at the latest.
My installation works fine.
Question: The computer you're using -- has it ever run XP? Or did it come
with Vista? If it's never run XP then maybe the problem is with the
computer. I have not heard of having to reinstall printer drivers again and
again. I certainly don't have to with Vista. Maybe it's a hardware issue?

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Old 02-08-2008   #3 (permalink)
Rich T


 
 

Re: Stay or go back?

I am in exactly the same quandary. I am having terrible problems with USB
drivers on my Vista machine and I have lost days of productivity trying to
fix it. I too am considering the drastic action of formatting and
reinstalling everything on XP.

I also wish to buy a laptop and am in a similar quandary. I really don't
want to buy a Vista laptop at the moment. Dell say they will sell me one of
their laptops with XP on it, but if it was designed to run Vista I fear that
I will have problems trying to run XP on it.

It would certainly be reassuring if there was a date for Vista SP1.

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Old 02-08-2008   #4 (permalink)
DP


 
 

Re: Stay or go back?


"Rich T" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:E0BEC6B8-0E82-441C-99B4-1889D4041C39@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
> Dell say they will sell me one of their laptops with XP on it, but if it
> was designed to run Vista I fear that I will have problems trying to run
> XP on it.

I don't think that's an issue.

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Old 02-08-2008   #5 (permalink)
Mark L. Ferguson


 
 

RE: Stay or go back?

Sometimes Vista is 'too fast' for things like syncing with some other device.
It uses the faster IP protocol called 'IPv6', (instead of IPv4), and you may
have to look into setting the speed of the connection to 'half-duplex' to get
your Vista to 'talk slower to the old man' I don't know what is available
for your particular device, but let me use an ethernet card for example. You
would open device manager (devmgmt.msc) to the 'network adapter' device, and
double click for the Properties page. There would be a "Speed' tab to set
'Half Huplex' instead of something like 'autodetect'.
If you have trouble doing that, starty a new thread here, explaing what
connection you need to slow down. There are certainly a bunch of
configurations for hardware, and you need to be specific about what devices
are in use.
As far av IPv6 goes, it is no worry, since Vista uses 'tunneling' to send a
6 packet inside a 4 packet. (and we can all use a 6 packet )
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"Inga Binga" wrote:
Quote:

> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes 10
> times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch with
> my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and I'm
> wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles
> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my
> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on
> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might miss
> is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and that's
> not nearly enough to continue.
>
> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to
> 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?
>
>
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Old 02-08-2008   #6 (permalink)
ray


 
 

Re: Stay or go back?

On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 06:58:00 -0800, Inga Binga wrote:
Quote:

> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes
> 10 times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently
> synch with my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to
> XP Pro and I'm wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a
> myriad of other hassles that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely
> painful. I'm tire of my printer drivers having to be reinstalled every
> time I turn the printer on because Vista forgot I had that printer. The
> only feature that I might miss is the window preview when you hover over
> an app on the start bar and that's not nearly enough to continue.
>
> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
> Vista but I thought I would put this out here: Is there any compelling
> reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to 6 months or should
> I convert to XP Pro or Linux?
I've not tried the SP beta myself, but reviews have indicated that it
will not fix any major problems. IMHO - you'd be better off with
something else that is more robust - XP or Linux.
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Old 02-08-2008   #7 (permalink)
Kerry Brown


 
 

Re: Stay or go back?

After reading the thread it sounds like this computer originally had XP and
was upgraded to Vista. If you didn't do a clean install I'd recommend trying
this. If you did do a clean install then the computer may not really be
Vista compatible. I have installed vista on many systems. Some systems just
do not work right with Vista. They were designed before Vista. Sometimes a
BIOS upgrade will help but in the end some motherboards just plain have
problems with Vista. If you have one then I'd recommend going back to XP.
SP1 will probably not fix your problems. If you didn't do a clean install of
Vista then wiping the system and starting again may fix your problems. If
you decide to downgrade to XP you will be doing a wipe and install anyway so
it may be worth it to give Vista try with this method.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/



"Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes
> 10
> times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch
> with
> my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and
> I'm
> wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other
> hassles
> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my
> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on
> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might
> miss
> is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and
> that's
> not nearly enough to continue.
>
> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3
> to
> 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-08-2008   #8 (permalink)
Jeanette


 
 

Re: Stay or go back?

Inga Binga wrote:
Quote:

> I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes 10
> times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch with
> my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and I'm
> wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other hassles
> that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my
> printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on
> because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might miss
> is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and that's
> not nearly enough to continue.
>
> My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
> Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
> Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3 to
> 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?
>
>
I think you might as well stay and see how SP 1 goes. Here is a
review, it seems like a mixed bag with some improvements and other
problems remain.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,14...n/article.html
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Old 02-08-2008   #9 (permalink)
Inga Binga


 
 

Re: Stay or go back?

Thanks Kerry,
Replacing the motherboard redefines the operation system "upgrade" concept
to an unacceptable cost. I'll be heading back to XP for now.

Thanks

"Kerry Brown" wrote:
Quote:

> After reading the thread it sounds like this computer originally had XP and
> was upgraded to Vista. If you didn't do a clean install I'd recommend trying
> this. If you did do a clean install then the computer may not really be
> Vista compatible. I have installed vista on many systems. Some systems just
> do not work right with Vista. They were designed before Vista. Sometimes a
> BIOS upgrade will help but in the end some motherboards just plain have
> problems with Vista. If you have one then I'd recommend going back to XP.
> SP1 will probably not fix your problems. If you didn't do a clean install of
> Vista then wiping the system and starting again may fix your problems. If
> you decide to downgrade to XP you will be doing a wipe and install anyway so
> it may be worth it to give Vista try with this method.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>
>
>
> "Inga Binga" <IngaBinga@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:E88B5AD0-0654-492C-9D6F-AC77588245AF@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > I'm at the end of my rope with Vista Business... Almost everything takes
> > 10
> > times longer to install and configure, it won't even consistently synch
> > with
> > my Tilt w/ WM6. I'm on the verge of converting my license to XP Pro and
> > I'm
> > wondering if SP1 will provide the fixes to this and a myriad of other
> > hassles
> > that have made the "upgrade" to Vista extremely painful. I'm tire of my
> > printer drivers having to be reinstalled every time I turn the printer on
> > because Vista forgot I had that printer. The only feature that I might
> > miss
> > is the window preview when you hover over an app on the start bar and
> > that's
> > not nearly enough to continue.
> >
> > My small group of friends and associates share this excremental view of
> > Vista but I thought I would put this out here:
> > Is there any compelling reason to wait for the SP1 that might appear in 3
> > to
> > 6 months or should I convert to XP Pro or Linux?
> >
> >
>
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Old 02-08-2008   #10 (permalink)
DanS


 
 

Re: Stay or go back?

"Rich T" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in
news:1CA44BCE-4304-4B17-94DA-22D5B1584F11@xxxxxx:
Quote:

> And why should I have to buy additional hardware just to make Vista
> work? For what advantage? I have already had to replace my perfectly
> good HP Printer and Canon Scanner because they did not work with
> Vista. I have also lots of perfectly good redundant software (eg
> expensive Adobe 6.0). There is literally nothing in Vista which
> justifies this outlay in new hardware and software - and you are now
> suggesting I pay out more to fix a really basic fundamental
> problem????
Yes, he is. That is the MS way.
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