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| | Fix for long, long, long deleting and copying of files? Will there EVER be a fix for this in Vista??? There have been complaints since the betas about this. I spent 2 afternoons trying to delete Opera cache files which had been backed up to a USB drive. They totaled over 1 GB and thousands and thousands of individual files. I had to take 18 files at a time and delete them otherwise the computer seized up (I let it run for 45 minutes one time and so had to resort to this method to get the job done). Next time I'll use a suggestion I found on the 'Net....use Dos to delete or copy large files. Since the first time I booted up Vista, I have been annoyed at how long it takes to COPY files or DELETE files. What is going on here? This is slower than Windows 3.1 - how is this possible?? The scuttlebutt on the internet is that each individual file is being checked for DRM; is this true?? If so, why is Microsoft POLICEMAN of the world?? The people interested in DRMing their wares should police this themselves, no? Am I wrong here? I like Vista EXCEPT for this problem, the "not responding" message which appears when the software really IS responding, the horrible search feature (I use a free utility called "Cathy" so that I can just take a few SECONDS to scan my hard drives, CD's, external drives when I want to and retrieve ANYTHING far faster than the Vista search which makes you sit there for half an hour waiting for a green bar to fill in.) and the irritating UAC which I got rid of within a week. Isn't it time Microsoft fixed this? |
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| | Re: Fix for long, long, long deleting and copying of files? "Hope" <Hope@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:A490956F-7DFC-4705-BA0D-16B373956AEB@xxxxxx Quote: > Will there EVER be a fix for this in Vista??? There have been complaints > since the betas about this. > I spent 2 afternoons trying to delete Opera cache files which had been > backed up to a USB drive. They totaled over 1 GB and thousands and Quote: > of individual files. I had to take 18 files at a time and delete them > otherwise the computer seized up (I let it run for 45 minutes one time and Quote: > had to resort to this method to get the job done). Next time I'll use a > suggestion I found on the 'Net....use Dos to delete or copy large files. > Since the first time I booted up Vista, I have been annoyed at how long Quote: > takes to COPY files or DELETE files. What is going on here? This is Quote: > than Windows 3.1 - how is this possible?? > The scuttlebutt on the internet is that each individual file is being > checked for DRM; is this true?? If so, why is Microsoft POLICEMAN of Quote: > world?? The people interested in DRMing their wares should police this > themselves, no? Am I wrong here? > I like Vista EXCEPT for this problem, the "not responding" message which > appears when the software really IS responding, the horrible search Quote: > (I use a free utility called "Cathy" so that I can just take a few SECONDS Quote: > scan my hard drives, CD's, external drives when I want to and retrieve > ANYTHING far faster than the Vista search which makes you sit there for Quote: > an hour waiting for a green bar to fill in.) and the irritating UAC which Quote: > got rid of within a week. > Isn't it time Microsoft fixed this? It would be totally illogical for the OS to have to check DRM for a file being *deleted*... but of course...what does logic have to do with anything. I think SP1 has now come out of testing... so the problem may now be solved. OTOH: I've seen a few posts that SP1 breaks some drivers |
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| | Re: Fix for long, long, long deleting and copying of files? "Hope" <Hope@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:A490956F-7DFC-4705-BA0D-16B373956AEB@xxxxxx Quote: > Will there EVER be a fix for this in Vista??? There have been complaints > since the betas about this. Quote: > The scuttlebutt on the internet is that each individual file is being > checked for DRM; is this true?? Quote: > If so, why is Microsoft POLICEMAN of the > world?? The people interested in DRMing their wares should police this > themselves, no? Am I wrong here? Quote: > and the irritating UAC which I got rid of within a week. been demanding since the move to NT. -- Paul Smith, Yeovil, UK. Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/ http://www.windowsresource.net/ *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail* |
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| | Re: Fix for long, long, long deleting and copying of files? "Hope" <Hope@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:A490956F-7DFC-4705-BA0D-16B373956AEB@xxxxxx Quote: > Will there EVER be a fix for this in Vista??? There have been complaints > since the betas about this. > I spent 2 afternoons trying to delete Opera cache files which had been > backed up to a USB drive. They totaled over 1 GB and thousands and > thousands > of individual files. I had to take 18 files at a time and delete them > otherwise the computer seized up (I let it run for 45 minutes one time and > so > had to resort to this method to get the job done). Next time I'll use a > suggestion I found on the 'Net....use Dos to delete or copy large files. > Since the first time I booted up Vista, I have been annoyed at how long > it > takes to COPY files or DELETE files. What is going on here? This is > slower > than Windows 3.1 - how is this possible?? > The scuttlebutt on the internet is that each individual file is being > checked for DRM; is this true?? If so, why is Microsoft POLICEMAN of > the > world?? The people interested in DRMing their wares should police this > themselves, no? Am I wrong here? > I like Vista EXCEPT for this problem, the "not responding" message which > appears when the software really IS responding, the horrible search > feature > (I use a free utility called "Cathy" so that I can just take a few SECONDS > to > scan my hard drives, CD's, external drives when I want to and retrieve > ANYTHING far faster than the Vista search which makes you sit there for > half > an hour waiting for a green bar to fill in.) and the irritating UAC which > I > got rid of within a week. > Isn't it time Microsoft fixed this? SP1 which is due out around Mid-March addresses this issue. |
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| | Re: Fix for long, long, long deleting and copying of files? "Checked for DRM? That doesn't even make sense." from Paul Smith Then what IS Vista doing when it takes unconscionable lengths of time to copy or delete large groups of files? "Paul Smith" wrote: Quote: > "Hope" <Hope@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:A490956F-7DFC-4705-BA0D-16B373956AEB@xxxxxx Quote: > > Will there EVER be a fix for this in Vista??? There have been complaints > > since the betas about this. > Disk performance is noticeably improved in SP1. > Quote: > > The scuttlebutt on the internet is that each individual file is being > > checked for DRM; is this true?? > Checked for DRM? That doesn't even make sense. > Quote: > > If so, why is Microsoft POLICEMAN of the > > world?? The people interested in DRMing their wares should police this > > themselves, no? Am I wrong here? > Irrelevant as built on a false premise. > Quote: > > and the irritating UAC which I got rid of within a week. > I hope for you sake you didn't. That's the one feature people like me have > been demanding since the move to NT. > > -- > Paul Smith, > Yeovil, UK. > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. > http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/ > http://www.windowsresource.net/ > > *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail* > > |
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| | Re: Fix for long, long, long deleting and copying of files? If you want a detailed technical explanation of how file copy in Vista works, see the following: http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/ "Hope" <Hope@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:81126929-FBF1-460E-9C3E-5D143753BCC6@xxxxxx Quote: > "Checked for DRM? That doesn't even make sense." from Paul Smith > > Then what IS Vista doing when it takes unconscionable lengths of time to > copy or delete large groups of files? > > "Paul Smith" wrote: > Quote: >> "Hope" <Hope@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:A490956F-7DFC-4705-BA0D-16B373956AEB@xxxxxx Quote: >> > Will there EVER be a fix for this in Vista??? There have been >> > complaints >> > since the betas about this. >> Disk performance is noticeably improved in SP1. >> Quote: >> > The scuttlebutt on the internet is that each individual file is being >> > checked for DRM; is this true?? >> Checked for DRM? That doesn't even make sense. >> Quote: >> > If so, why is Microsoft POLICEMAN of the >> > world?? The people interested in DRMing their wares should police this >> > themselves, no? Am I wrong here? >> Irrelevant as built on a false premise. >> Quote: >> > and the irritating UAC which I got rid of within a week. >> I hope for you sake you didn't. That's the one feature people like me >> have >> been demanding since the move to NT. >> >> -- >> Paul Smith, >> Yeovil, UK. >> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. >> http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/ >> http://www.windowsresource.net/ >> >> *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail* >> >> |
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| | Re: Fix for long, long, long deleting and copying of files? Paul, take a look at this article from your own countrymen before you say disparagingly that what I say "doesn't even make sense": wwwdottheregisterdotcodotuk/2007/05/15/vistas_long_goodbye_continues/ "Paul Smith" wrote: Quote: > "Hope" <Hope@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:A490956F-7DFC-4705-BA0D-16B373956AEB@xxxxxx Quote: > > Will there EVER be a fix for this in Vista??? There have been complaints > > since the betas about this. > Disk performance is noticeably improved in SP1. > Quote: > > The scuttlebutt on the internet is that each individual file is being > > checked for DRM; is this true?? > Checked for DRM? That doesn't even make sense. > Quote: > > If so, why is Microsoft POLICEMAN of the > > world?? The people interested in DRMing their wares should police this > > themselves, no? Am I wrong here? > Irrelevant as built on a false premise. > Quote: > > and the irritating UAC which I got rid of within a week. > I hope for you sake you didn't. That's the one feature people like me have > been demanding since the move to NT. > > -- > Paul Smith, > Yeovil, UK. > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. > http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/ > http://www.windowsresource.net/ > > *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail* > > |
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| | Re: Fix for long, long, long deleting and copying of files? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05...bye_continues/ (sorry, thought I could not post urls) Quote from article: "Microsoft's inability to fix a defect in such a basic feature has led to its share of conspiracy theories that would be quickly dismissed as kooky, were it not for the company's steadfast refusal to provide any details about what's causing the problem. The top contender: The inability to copy files without stalling isn't a bug at all, but rather the result of a digital rights management feature designed to protect Hollywood (even if the rest of us have to cuss our way through four hours deleting a few gigs worth of crap)." "Hope" wrote: Quote: > Paul, take a look at this article from your own countrymen before you say > disparagingly that what I say "doesn't even make sense": > wwwdottheregisterdotcodotuk/2007/05/15/vistas_long_goodbye_continues/ > > "Paul Smith" wrote: > Quote: > > "Hope" <Hope@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > news:A490956F-7DFC-4705-BA0D-16B373956AEB@xxxxxx Quote: > > > Will there EVER be a fix for this in Vista??? There have been complaints > > > since the betas about this. > > Disk performance is noticeably improved in SP1. > > Quote: > > > The scuttlebutt on the internet is that each individual file is being > > > checked for DRM; is this true?? > > Checked for DRM? That doesn't even make sense. > > Quote: > > > If so, why is Microsoft POLICEMAN of the > > > world?? The people interested in DRMing their wares should police this > > > themselves, no? Am I wrong here? > > Irrelevant as built on a false premise. > > Quote: > > > and the irritating UAC which I got rid of within a week. > > I hope for you sake you didn't. That's the one feature people like me have > > been demanding since the move to NT. > > > > -- > > Paul Smith, > > Yeovil, UK. > > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User. > > http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/ > > http://www.windowsresource.net/ > > > > *Remove nospam. to reply by e-mail* > > > > |
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| | Re: Fix for long, long, long deleting and copying of files? "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23em8lmyaIHA.5976@xxxxxx Quote: > If you want a detailed technical explanation of how file copy > in Vista works, see the following: Quote: > LOL According to that article...Vista uses an improved "copy" algorithm as compared to XP... it's just slower LOL |
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| | Re: Fix for long, long, long deleting and copying of files? Agree. I have been looking for a way to make the copy 'half-duplex' but so far I haven't found anything available. My reason for this is that often an ethernet connection will show slowness just like that in Vista, and the fix is to use half-duplex. I tried getting MS to listen to that, but I think probably you have filed a few suggestions yourself :/ -- Was this helpful? Then click the "Yes" button below. Voting helps the web interface. http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales....htm#RateAPost Mark L. Ferguson .. "philo" <philo@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:us1cHtyaIHA.3572@xxxxxx Quote: > > "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:%23em8lmyaIHA.5976@xxxxxx Quote: >> If you want a detailed technical explanation of how file copy >> in Vista works, see the following: Quote: >> > > LOL > > According to that article...Vista uses an improved "copy" algorithm as > compared to XP... > it's just slower > > LOL > > |
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