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Excessive hard disk activity - please help!

  1. #1


    Jerry Guest

    Excessive hard disk activity - please help!

    Vista Ultimate 32-bit with 4GB memory running on a 500GB Raid1 HD.
    The hard disks are almost ALWAYS running, especially when the computer is
    idle. I disabled the Windows Search service, but that didn't change
    anything.
    Any ideas as to what that might be? Any good program that can tell me
    real-time what app is accessing the disk?


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  3. #2


    j90qfj90q34fjwefi2 Guest

    RE: Excessive hard disk activity - please help!

    Because it automatically indexes your hard drive AND it automatically defrags
    your hard drive when its IDLE. How dumb is that???? You have to hack some
    registry crap to turn it off too. MS, let US decide when to defrag, and give
    us option to turn auto defrag OFF easy!!!!

    "Jerry" wrote:

    > Vista Ultimate 32-bit with 4GB memory running on a 500GB Raid1 HD.
    > The hard disks are almost ALWAYS running, especially when the computer is
    > idle. I disabled the Windows Search service, but that didn't change
    > anything.
    > Any ideas as to what that might be? Any good program that can tell me
    > real-time what app is accessing the disk?
    >
    >

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  4. #3


    PNutts Guest

    RE: Excessive hard disk activity - please help!

    Normally I don't feed the trolls, but...

    You think it is dumb to index and defrag when the computer is idle? Are you
    are really suggesting you do it when the computer is under load?

    What I think you mean is that you simply want to turn off the defrag.
    Interesting. If you install a third party defragger, would you also set it to
    manual? Just curious.

    "j90qfj90q34fjwefi2" wrote:

    > Because it automatically indexes your hard drive AND it automatically defrags
    > your hard drive when its IDLE. How dumb is that???? You have to hack some
    > registry crap to turn it off too. MS, let US decide when to defrag, and give
    > us option to turn auto defrag OFF easy!!!!
    >
    > "Jerry" wrote:
    >

    > > Vista Ultimate 32-bit with 4GB memory running on a 500GB Raid1 HD.
    > > The hard disks are almost ALWAYS running, especially when the computer is
    > > idle. I disabled the Windows Search service, but that didn't change
    > > anything.
    > > Any ideas as to what that might be? Any good program that can tell me
    > > real-time what app is accessing the disk?
    > >
    > >

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  5. #4


    Jerry Guest

    Re: Excessive hard disk activity - please help!

    I admit to being very dumb. That's why I post here, hoping for help, because
    I don't know how to do it on my own.

    I actually have a 3rd party defrag, and I set it up to run when the computer
    is REALLY idle, meaning when I'm not there (at night). And what I would like
    now is to get rid of the annoying constant background noise of the disks
    while I am sitting AT the computer an trying to get some work done.

    Anyway, in my case it is NOT the defrag (see above), and with the Search
    service disabled, shouldn't be the indexing either, right?



    "PNutts" <pnutterfield@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:1203542C-A95A-4360-9800-60CE3757FAA3@xxxxxx

    > Normally I don't feed the trolls, but...
    >
    > You think it is dumb to index and defrag when the computer is idle? Are
    > you
    > are really suggesting you do it when the computer is under load?
    >
    > What I think you mean is that you simply want to turn off the defrag.
    > Interesting. If you install a third party defragger, would you also set it
    > to
    > manual? Just curious.
    >
    > "j90qfj90q34fjwefi2" wrote:
    >

    >> Because it automatically indexes your hard drive AND it automatically
    >> defrags
    >> your hard drive when its IDLE. How dumb is that???? You have to hack
    >> some
    >> registry crap to turn it off too. MS, let US decide when to defrag, and
    >> give
    >> us option to turn auto defrag OFF easy!!!!
    >>
    >> "Jerry" wrote:
    >>

    >> > Vista Ultimate 32-bit with 4GB memory running on a 500GB Raid1 HD.
    >> > The hard disks are almost ALWAYS running, especially when the computer
    >> > is
    >> > idle. I disabled the Windows Search service, but that didn't change
    >> > anything.
    >> > Any ideas as to what that might be? Any good program that can tell me
    >> > real-time what app is accessing the disk?
    >> >
    >> >

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  6. #5


    PNutts Guest

    Re: Excessive hard disk activity - please help!

    Hi Jerry.

    My response was to the response you received from "j90qfj90q34fjwefi2 ",
    which was ignorant and not helpful. Your question is appropriate and
    hopefully the people in this forum who are smarter than me (not hard to do)
    will have a quick solution for you.

    "Jerry" wrote:

    > I admit to being very dumb. That's why I post here, hoping for help, because
    > I don't know how to do it on my own.
    >
    > I actually have a 3rd party defrag, and I set it up to run when the computer
    > is REALLY idle, meaning when I'm not there (at night). And what I would like
    > now is to get rid of the annoying constant background noise of the disks
    > while I am sitting AT the computer an trying to get some work done.
    >
    > Anyway, in my case it is NOT the defrag (see above), and with the Search
    > service disabled, shouldn't be the indexing either, right?
    >
    >
    >
    > "PNutts" <pnutterfield@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:1203542C-A95A-4360-9800-60CE3757FAA3@xxxxxx

    > > Normally I don't feed the trolls, but...
    > >
    > > You think it is dumb to index and defrag when the computer is idle? Are
    > > you
    > > are really suggesting you do it when the computer is under load?
    > >
    > > What I think you mean is that you simply want to turn off the defrag.
    > > Interesting. If you install a third party defragger, would you also set it
    > > to
    > > manual? Just curious.
    > >
    > > "j90qfj90q34fjwefi2" wrote:
    > >

    > >> Because it automatically indexes your hard drive AND it automatically
    > >> defrags
    > >> your hard drive when its IDLE. How dumb is that???? You have to hack
    > >> some
    > >> registry crap to turn it off too. MS, let US decide when to defrag, and
    > >> give
    > >> us option to turn auto defrag OFF easy!!!!
    > >>
    > >> "Jerry" wrote:
    > >>
    > >> > Vista Ultimate 32-bit with 4GB memory running on a 500GB Raid1 HD.
    > >> > The hard disks are almost ALWAYS running, especially when the computer
    > >> > is
    > >> > idle. I disabled the Windows Search service, but that didn't change
    > >> > anything.
    > >> > Any ideas as to what that might be? Any good program that can tell me
    > >> > real-time what app is accessing the disk?
    > >> >
    > >> >
    >

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  7. #6


    j90qfj90q34fjwefi2 Guest

    RE: Excessive hard disk activity - please help!

    Ya i think its dumb b/c experience has shown that it will start when ur
    computer is idle, and it can't just *STOP*, it takes a wile to settle down
    when it detects me starting to use my computer. I would rather schedule a
    actual defrag utility to run at night. AT LEAST WE NEED AN EASY OPTION TO DO
    THAT IMHO

    "PNutts" wrote:

    > Normally I don't feed the trolls, but...
    >
    > You think it is dumb to index and defrag when the computer is idle? Are you
    > are really suggesting you do it when the computer is under load?
    >
    > What I think you mean is that you simply want to turn off the defrag.
    > Interesting. If you install a third party defragger, would you also set it to
    > manual? Just curious.
    >
    > "j90qfj90q34fjwefi2" wrote:
    >

    > > Because it automatically indexes your hard drive AND it automatically defrags
    > > your hard drive when its IDLE. How dumb is that???? You have to hack some
    > > registry crap to turn it off too. MS, let US decide when to defrag, and give
    > > us option to turn auto defrag OFF easy!!!!
    > >
    > > "Jerry" wrote:
    > >

    > > > Vista Ultimate 32-bit with 4GB memory running on a 500GB Raid1 HD.
    > > > The hard disks are almost ALWAYS running, especially when the computer is
    > > > idle. I disabled the Windows Search service, but that didn't change
    > > > anything.
    > > > Any ideas as to what that might be? Any good program that can tell me
    > > > real-time what app is accessing the disk?
    > > >
    > > >

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  8. #7


    PNutts Guest

    RE: Excessive hard disk activity - please help!



    "Jerry" wrote:

    > Vista Ultimate 32-bit with 4GB memory running on a 500GB Raid1 HD.
    > The hard disks are almost ALWAYS running, especially when the computer is
    > idle. I disabled the Windows Search service, but that didn't change
    > anything.
    > Any ideas as to what that might be? Any good program that can tell me
    > real-time what app is accessing the disk?
    >
    >
    I did a search of this forum using "drive activity" and came up with some
    hits. I don't know how to copy a direct link to posts in the web browser
    client, so I'll copy it below. The thread is titled "disk thrash" and the
    author is Stephen Porter. Keep in mind this was Stephen's response to someone
    else's post.

    Stephen Porter wrote:
    It's not a problem, and it doesn't need a solution. Just ignore the disk
    light flashing and get on with your work.*

    Disk activity (at any time, not just after booting) can be due to lots of
    things, including:

    1/ the indexing service, which makes your searches faster, and is thus a
    GOOD THING

    2/ superfetch, which speculatively preloads files into RAM that it "expects"
    you to need (based on your usage patterns so far), which greatly increases
    response times and is thus a GOOD THING

    3/ the disk defragger starting up, which prevents your disks from becoming
    fragmented, and is thus a GOOD THING

    4/ Vista reading the start-up performance data and shuffling the files
    around on your hard disk in order to make your system boot more quickly,
    which is thus a GOOD THING

    5/ your security software (antivirus, anti-malware) updating itself and
    scanning some files, which goes without saying is a GOOD THING

    In other words, it's just doing what sophisticated OSs of all varieties do.

    For all the activities in 1/ to 4/ above, the activity happens at the lowest
    CPU priority and lowest I/O priority, and thus backs off immediately you
    need the CPU or I/O for yourself.

    *I've read that there is a rare and intransigent bug that affects both Vista
    and XP, which causes disk thrashing after startup, and significantly affects
    performance. Note, this is quite different from the usual Vista
    post-startup thrash, which shouldn't affect performance.

    If your performance really is being badly affected (and it's not just
    psychological due to hearing the disk thrash) you may be suffering from that
    bug. I believe the bug has something to do with Microsoft (or Windows?)
    Update - you may wish to do some online research if you do have that
    problem.

    SteveT



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  9. #8


    PNutts Guest

    RE: Excessive hard disk activity - please help!

    Now *that's* a good question and here's an answer courtesy John Barnett
    (Google is a good thing):

    http://vistasupport.mvps.org/disable...r_schedule.htm

    In the interest of fairness, it appears the defrag runs once a week by
    default, not when the computer is idle. I've only researched it for about
    five minutes, so if I'm wrong let me know. I don't want to sling
    "reverse-FUD".

    "j90qfj90q34fjwefi2" wrote:

    > Ya i think its dumb b/c experience has shown that it will start when ur
    > computer is idle, and it can't just *STOP*, it takes a wile to settle down
    > when it detects me starting to use my computer. I would rather schedule a
    > actual defrag utility to run at night. AT LEAST WE NEED AN EASY OPTION TO DO
    > THAT IMHO
    >
    > "PNutts" wrote:
    >

    > > Normally I don't feed the trolls, but...
    > >
    > > You think it is dumb to index and defrag when the computer is idle? Are you
    > > are really suggesting you do it when the computer is under load?
    > >
    > > What I think you mean is that you simply want to turn off the defrag.
    > > Interesting. If you install a third party defragger, would you also set it to
    > > manual? Just curious.
    > >
    > > "j90qfj90q34fjwefi2" wrote:
    > >

    > > > Because it automatically indexes your hard drive AND it automatically defrags
    > > > your hard drive when its IDLE. How dumb is that???? You have to hack some
    > > > registry crap to turn it off too. MS, let US decide when to defrag, and give
    > > > us option to turn auto defrag OFF easy!!!!
    > > >
    > > > "Jerry" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > Vista Ultimate 32-bit with 4GB memory running on a 500GB Raid1 HD.
    > > > > The hard disks are almost ALWAYS running, especially when the computer is
    > > > > idle. I disabled the Windows Search service, but that didn't change
    > > > > anything.
    > > > > Any ideas as to what that might be? Any good program that can tell me
    > > > > real-time what app is accessing the disk?
    > > > >
    > > > >

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  10. #9


    Ronnie Vernon MVP Guest

    Re: Excessive hard disk activity - please help!

    Are things getting a bit boring down there in Hicksville?

    --

    Ronnie Vernon
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Desktop Experience


    "j90qfj90q34fjwefi2" <j90qfj90q34fjwefi2@xxxxxx> wrote in
    message news:3CD7C443-BC20-48C0-BA35-E57FCEACE0C9@xxxxxx

    > Because it automatically indexes your hard drive AND it automatically
    > defrags
    > your hard drive when its IDLE. How dumb is that???? You have to hack
    > some
    > registry crap to turn it off too. MS, let US decide when to defrag, and
    > give
    > us option to turn auto defrag OFF easy!!!!
    >
    > "Jerry" wrote:
    >

    >> Vista Ultimate 32-bit with 4GB memory running on a 500GB Raid1 HD.
    >> The hard disks are almost ALWAYS running, especially when the computer is
    >> idle. I disabled the Windows Search service, but that didn't change
    >> anything.
    >> Any ideas as to what that might be? Any good program that can tell me
    >> real-time what app is accessing the disk?
    >>
    >>

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  11. #10


    connor Guest

    Re: Excessive hard disk activity - please help!

    On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 23:03:41 +0100, "Jerry" <duncan_jeremy@xxxxxx> wrote:

    >Vista Ultimate 32-bit with 4GB memory running on a 500GB Raid1 HD.
    >The hard disks are almost ALWAYS running, especially when the computer is
    >idle. I disabled the Windows Search service, but that didn't change
    >anything.
    >Any ideas as to what that might be? Any good program that can tell me
    >real-time what app is accessing the disk?

    Jerry,

    Based on comments seen elsewhere regarding constant disk activity, I disabled
    indexing and windows defender but that did not stop the activity. Based on yet
    another recommendation, I disabled Super Fetch. That did the trick. No more
    constant disk activity. I do not detect any degredation in performance with these
    three services disabled.

    I hope this helps.

    Kind regards,
    Gary

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