Enable Glass in Java apps

The point is, its not under NDA, I did not have to sign into the website to
download it. I heard about Java Mustang targetting Longhorn from May of
2004. Its May 2006, I installed LimeWire, it killed DWM, I wondered to
myself, what the heck can I do to fix this. The I remember the Java Mustang
article which said that the Mustang release of Java would adapt the look and
feel of LH. I went to http://www.sun.com , typed in Java Mustang, click
Search, Java Mustang BETA 2 download link popped up, it opened and displayed
the direct links to download.

If it was under NDA, why was I not required to sign in, providing a unique
user name and password similar to http://connect.microsoft.com or
http://betaplace.microsoft.com?

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"Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uPMxjf8cGHA.1856@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Stop with the whole FYI business - we know it's for our information
> otherwise you wouldn't be posting it. Also, there is no NDA because Andre
> hasn't physically signed anything - as Sun is an American trademark,
> depending on Jamaican laws (not all that up to date on it to be honest),
> then signing anything under his "legal age" for contracting and suchlike
> would be totally void in America anyway.
>
> Some NDA's here in England - I can sign away without a problem because I'm
> 16 and above - acceptable in the UK but not necessarily in the USA - I'm
> under British law and have no need to change it. So in theory, even if
> Andre did sign an NDA, it's not his direct responsibility to stick to it
> (because he may be a "minor" as such), and just the fact you're talking
> out of your arse again Kevin.
>
> *sigh*.
>
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> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
> that up!
>
> --: Original message follows :--
> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eSofLh7cGHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> P.S. Java Runtime 6.0 Beta is indeed under an NDA, also just FYI.
>>
>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OeMO0e7cGHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> That was the General Public EULA for Java Runtime 6.0 Beta, just FYI.
>>>
>>> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:e93O5nycGHA.4576@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Shutup, public download = you're an idiot.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so,
>>>> and not
>>>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
>>>> cleared
>>>> that up!
>>>>
>>>> --: Original message follows :--
>>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23r5fi3xcGHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>I just checked Sun's Website, and the Product that you Mentioned is
>>>>>Indeed Under an NDA.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uoIj4uxcGHA.4224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Is this Post a Sun Microsystem's Beta NDA Violation (or is it a
>>>>>> Public Beta)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Andre Da Costa" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:307A3BE6-9C96-4593-B389-9A868C9E5173@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>I downloaded the beta 2 copy of Java Mustang which enables Glass
>>>>>>>support in
>>>>>>> certain Java based applications. I don't know if you have
>>>>>>> experienced this,
>>>>>>> when you open an app built around Java, it turns off DWM. With
>>>>>>> Mustang it
>>>>>>> enables Glass and the app blends in beautifully.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is the x86 version for those interested:
>>>>>>> http://download.java.net/download/jd...4_may_2006.exe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> x64 version here:
>>>>>>> http://download.java.net/download/jd...4_may_2006.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

And if it was under NDA, then there wouldn't be blogs by Sun employees
extolling its virtues

--
Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.

Kevin is in the twighlight zone!
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"Jane Colman" <jellybean@xjgarage.org> wrote in message
news:emKQY19cGHA.5016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> And if it was under NDA, then there wouldn't be blogs by Sun employees
> extolling its virtues
>
> --
> Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.
>
>

The GPL doesn't affect software bundled with GPLd software.

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uzttWe9cGHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> You are right, I forgot about that, I am confusing Solaris, which is under
> GPL. That is contradictory though, Open Solaris is governed by GPL, which
> would apply to Java since it is in Open Solaris.
> --
> --
> Andre
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> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>
> "Chris Altmann" <avalid@emailaddress.zoo> wrote in message
> news:uv5sEI8cGHA.3632@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Java or its SDK are NOT licensed under the GPL, and do not require you to
>> license software you create using it under the GPL. Anything else in this
>> thread I have no comment on as I find it confusing (having one of its
>> participants killfiled will do that .
>>
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OKe6hkycGHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Its distributed under the GNU Public License, which means, if you
>>> created something from the Java Mustang SDK, then you have to make it
>>> available to Sun and the Open Source Community. So it is not under any
>>> NDA. Confidentiality agreement is specific to if you are in a private
>>> beta for this software, this is a publicly available piece of software.
>>>
>>> Stop scaring people.
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>
>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OuR6ONycGHA.564@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> P.S. Give Special Attention to the Following:
>>>>
>>>> 3.2 Licensed Software is "Confidential Information".
>>>> Licensee may not disclose or use Confidential
>>>> Information, except for the purposes specified in this
>>>> Agreement. Licensee will protect the Confidential
>>>> Information with the same degree of care, as Licensee
>>>> uses to protect its own Confidential Information.
>>>>
>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eY8hhDycGHA.4224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Whatever you say.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, that would make Sun the most stupid Company on planet earth to
>>>>> make something so easily accessible by simply typing in Java Mustang
>>>>> on their main page with a quick link to the software. Also, if its
>>>>> under NDA, then why is it accessible to you? I would have expected the
>>>>> link to expire and require you to log in and access it. Could you link
>>>>> me to or quote on their website where it says the software is under
>>>>> NDA?
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andre
>>>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23r5fi3xcGHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I just checked Sun's Website, and the Product that you Mentioned is
>>>>>>Indeed Under an NDA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uoIj4uxcGHA.4224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Is this Post a Sun Microsystem's Beta NDA Violation (or is it a
>>>>>>> Public Beta)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Andre Da Costa" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:307A3BE6-9C96-4593-B389-9A868C9E5173@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>I downloaded the beta 2 copy of Java Mustang which enables Glass
>>>>>>>>support in
>>>>>>>> certain Java based applications. I don't know if you have
>>>>>>>> experienced this,
>>>>>>>> when you open an app built around Java, it turns off DWM. With
>>>>>>>> Mustang it
>>>>>>>> enables Glass and the app blends in beautifully.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is the x86 version for those interested:
>>>>>>>> http://download.java.net/download/jd...4_may_2006.exe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> x64 version here:
>>>>>>>> http://download.java.net/download/jd...4_may_2006.exe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

There's something really not right with him - OK so I sometimes get
information wrong, but he *never* comes out with anything right S I mean,
he just goes on about NDA's as if he's obsessed over them or something...

Take your pills Kevin... take your magic pretty pills...

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"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:O87XC0$cGHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Kevin is in the twighlight zone!
> --
> --
> Andre
> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>
> "Jane Colman" <jellybean@xjgarage.org> wrote in message
> news:emKQY19cGHA.5016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> And if it was under NDA, then there wouldn't be blogs by Sun employees
>> extolling its virtues
>>
>> --
>> Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.
>>
>>
>
>

I visited the Download Web Site (on Sun's Website) and I had to click on the
"I Agree to Sun Microsystems Terms and Conditions," in order to Download the
Software from Sun Microsystem's Java 6.0 Beta Website, just FYI.

"Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:O$WAE7BdGHA.4532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> There's something really not right with him - OK so I sometimes get
> information wrong, but he *never* comes out with anything right S I
> mean, he just goes on about NDA's as if he's obsessed over them or
> something...
>
> Take your pills Kevin... take your magic pretty pills...
>
> --
> Zack Whittaker
> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
> not
> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
> that up!
>
> --: Original message follows :--
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O87XC0$cGHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Kevin is in the twighlight zone!
>> --
>> --
>> Andre
>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>
>> "Jane Colman" <jellybean@xjgarage.org> wrote in message
>> news:emKQY19cGHA.5016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> And if it was under NDA, then there wouldn't be blogs by Sun employees
>>> extolling its virtues
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
>>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

You just don't get it do you - you always have to do that, because it's just
a precautionary measure that's all, for the user as well as the company.
Jeez, the amounts of times therefore you've broken NDA, you should be kicked
to high Heaven and back.

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--: Original message follows :--
"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OmMHUHFdGHA.3632@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I visited the Download Web Site (on Sun's Website) and I had to click on
>the "I Agree to Sun Microsystems Terms and Conditions," in order to
>Download the Software from Sun Microsystem's Java 6.0 Beta Website, just
>FYI.
>
> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:O$WAE7BdGHA.4532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> There's something really not right with him - OK so I sometimes get
>> information wrong, but he *never* comes out with anything right S I
>> mean, he just goes on about NDA's as if he's obsessed over them or
>> something...
>>
>> Take your pills Kevin... take your magic pretty pills...
>>
>> --
>> Zack Whittaker
>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>> not
>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
>> that up!
>>
>> --: Original message follows :--
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O87XC0$cGHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Kevin is in the twighlight zone!
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>
>>> "Jane Colman" <jellybean@xjgarage.org> wrote in message
>>> news:emKQY19cGHA.5016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> And if it was under NDA, then there wouldn't be blogs by Sun employees
>>>> extolling its virtues
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
>>>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Even if you have download a shareware app, you have to agree to the EULA of
that application.
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"Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OKHbxdFdGHA.1320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> You just don't get it do you - you always have to do that, because it's
> just a precautionary measure that's all, for the user as well as the
> company. Jeez, the amounts of times therefore you've broken NDA, you
> should be kicked to high Heaven and back.
>
> --
> Zack Whittaker
> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
> not
> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
> that up!
>
> --: Original message follows :--
> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OmMHUHFdGHA.3632@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I visited the Download Web Site (on Sun's Website) and I had to click on
>>the "I Agree to Sun Microsystems Terms and Conditions," in order to
>>Download the Software from Sun Microsystem's Java 6.0 Beta Website, just
>>FYI.
>>
>> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:O$WAE7BdGHA.4532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> There's something really not right with him - OK so I sometimes get
>>> information wrong, but he *never* comes out with anything right S I
>>> mean, he just goes on about NDA's as if he's obsessed over them or
>>> something...
>>>
>>> Take your pills Kevin... take your magic pretty pills...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Zack Whittaker
>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>>> not
>>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
>>> cleared
>>> that up!
>>>
>>> --: Original message follows :--
>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:O87XC0$cGHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Kevin is in the twighlight zone!
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> Andre
>>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>
>>>> "Jane Colman" <jellybean@xjgarage.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:emKQY19cGHA.5016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> And if it was under NDA, then there wouldn't be blogs by Sun employees
>>>>> extolling its virtues
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
>>>>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Personally I suspect that some day Kevin will have his own Wikipedia entry.
Topics will include:

- NDAs/EULAs
- Video cards and hard drives destroyed by software
- Microsoft not delivering new Vista builds on the dates posted by
unaffiliated sites
- Rants about the First Amendment
- Attempts to convince others he can't be kicked off his ISP; unlike "the
rest of us", it's okay for him to act like a jackass because he's got some
disability
- FYI
- PS
- PPS
- PPPS

Am I missing something?

This sad comedy is taking on biblical proportions. I can't wait until the
22nd (or is it the 27th now Kevin?). I call first dibs on naming this "the
Panzke Effect".

LOL


"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:uUa3$bQdGHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Personally I suspect that some day Kevin will have his own Wikipedia
> entry. Topics will include:
>
> - NDAs/EULAs
> - Video cards and hard drives destroyed by software
> - Microsoft not delivering new Vista builds on the dates posted by
> unaffiliated sites
> - Rants about the First Amendment
> - Attempts to convince others he can't be kicked off his ISP; unlike "the
> rest of us", it's okay for him to act like a jackass because he's got some
> disability
> - FYI
> - PS
> - PPS
> - PPPS
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> This sad comedy is taking on biblical proportions. I can't wait until the
> 22nd (or is it the 27th now Kevin?). I call first dibs on naming this
> "the Panzke Effect".
>
>