Enable Glass in Java apps

That's CLEARLY a standard license agreement, doh! Read it properly

"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I visited the Download Web Site (on Sun's Website) and I had to click on
>the "I Agree to Sun Microsystems Terms and Conditions," in order to
>Download the Software from Sun Microsystem's Java 6.0 Beta Website, just
>FYI.
>
> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:O$WAE7BdGHA.4532@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> There's something really not right with him - OK so I sometimes get
>> information wrong, but he *never* comes out with anything right S I
>> mean, he just goes on about NDA's as if he's obsessed over them or
>> something...
>>
>> Take your pills Kevin... take your magic pretty pills...
>>
>> --
>> Zack Whittaker
>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>> not
>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
>> that up!
>>
>> --: Original message follows :--
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O87XC0$cGHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Kevin is in the twighlight zone!
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>
>>> "Jane Colman" <jellybean@xjgarage.org> wrote in message
>>> news:emKQY19cGHA.5016@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> And if it was under NDA, then there wouldn't be blogs by Sun employees
>>>> extolling its virtues
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jane, not plain 64bit enabled
>>>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Please... don't give anyone any ideas!

"Homer J. Simpson" <root@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:uUa3$bQdGHA.4108@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Personally I suspect that some day Kevin will have his own Wikipedia
> entry. Topics will include:
>
> - NDAs/EULAs
> - Video cards and hard drives destroyed by software
> - Microsoft not delivering new Vista builds on the dates posted by
> unaffiliated sites
> - Rants about the First Amendment
> - Attempts to convince others he can't be kicked off his ISP; unlike "the
> rest of us", it's okay for him to act like a jackass because he's got some
> disability
> - FYI
> - PS
> - PPS
> - PPPS
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> This sad comedy is taking on biblical proportions. I can't wait until the
> 22nd (or is it the 27th now Kevin?). I call first dibs on naming this
> "the Panzke Effect".
>
>

Rubbish

"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> P.S. Java Runtime 6.0 Beta is indeed under an NDA, also just FYI.
>
> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%237hTMe7cGHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> That was the General Public EULA for Java Runtime 6.0 Beta, just FYI.
>>
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uhg1R4ycGHA.5116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> And I was referring specifically to the Java Runtime 6, its up to you if
>>> you want the funky SDK.
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>
>>> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:%23vpFloycGHA.3840@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> People have been banned from newsgroups before... I'm hoping they'll do
>>>> it again to be honest.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Zack Whittaker
>>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>>>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so,
>>>> and not
>>>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
>>>> cleared
>>>> that up!
>>>>
>>>> --: Original message follows :--
>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OKe6hkycGHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Its distributed under the GNU Public License, which means, if you
>>>>> created something from the Java Mustang SDK, then you have to make it
>>>>> available to Sun and the Open Source Community. So it is not under any
>>>>> NDA. Confidentiality agreement is specific to if you are in a private
>>>>> beta for this software, this is a publicly available piece of
>>>>> software.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stop scaring people.
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andre
>>>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>>
>>>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OuR6ONycGHA.564@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> P.S. Give Special Attention to the Following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3.2 Licensed Software is "Confidential Information".
>>>>>> Licensee may not disclose or use Confidential
>>>>>> Information, except for the purposes specified in this
>>>>>> Agreement. Licensee will protect the Confidential
>>>>>> Information with the same degree of care, as Licensee
>>>>>> uses to protect its own Confidential Information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eY8hhDycGHA.4224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Whatever you say.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But, that would make Sun the most stupid Company on planet earth to
>>>>>>> make something so easily accessible by simply typing in Java Mustang
>>>>>>> on their main page with a quick link to the software. Also, if its
>>>>>>> under NDA, then why is it accessible to you? I would have expected
>>>>>>> the link to expire and require you to log in and access it. Could
>>>>>>> you link me to or quote on their website where it says the software
>>>>>>> is under NDA?
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Andre
>>>>>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>>>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:%23r5fi3xcGHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>I just checked Sun's Website, and the Product that you Mentioned is
>>>>>>>>Indeed Under an NDA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:uoIj4uxcGHA.4224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Is this Post a Sun Microsystem's Beta NDA Violation (or is it a
>>>>>>>>> Public Beta)?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Andre Da Costa" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:307A3BE6-9C96-4593-B389-9A868C9E5173@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>I downloaded the beta 2 copy of Java Mustang which enables Glass
>>>>>>>>>>support in
>>>>>>>>>> certain Java based applications. I don't know if you have
>>>>>>>>>> experienced this,
>>>>>>>>>> when you open an app built around Java, it turns off DWM. With
>>>>>>>>>> Mustang it
>>>>>>>>>> enables Glass and the app blends in beautifully.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here is the x86 version for those interested:
>>>>>>>>>> http://download.java.net/download/jd...4_may_2006.exe
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> x64 version here:
>>>>>>>>>> http://download.java.net/download/jd...4_may_2006.exe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

More rubbish, of course.

"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OPeWzi7cGHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> P.P.S. You Violated your (Sun Microsystems) NDA by Posting that Download
> Link, also just FYI.
>
> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23h24dg7cGHA.4312@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> P.S. Java Runtime 6.0 Beta is indeed under an NDA, also just FYI.
>>
>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%237hTMe7cGHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> That was the General Public EULA for Java Runtime 6.0 Beta, just FYI.
>>>
>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uhg1R4ycGHA.5116@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> And I was referring specifically to the Java Runtime 6, its up to you
>>>> if you want the funky SDK.
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> Andre
>>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>
>>>> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23vpFloycGHA.3840@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> People have been banned from newsgroups before... I'm hoping they'll
>>>>> do it again to be honest.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Zack Whittaker
>>>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>>>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>>>>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>>>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>>>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so,
>>>>> and not
>>>>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
>>>>> cleared
>>>>> that up!
>>>>>
>>>>> --: Original message follows :--
>>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:OKe6hkycGHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Its distributed under the GNU Public License, which means, if you
>>>>>> created something from the Java Mustang SDK, then you have to make it
>>>>>> available to Sun and the Open Source Community. So it is not under
>>>>>> any NDA. Confidentiality agreement is specific to if you are in a
>>>>>> private beta for this software, this is a publicly available piece of
>>>>>> software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stop scaring people.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andre
>>>>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:OuR6ONycGHA.564@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> P.S. Give Special Attention to the Following:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3.2 Licensed Software is "Confidential Information".
>>>>>>> Licensee may not disclose or use Confidential
>>>>>>> Information, except for the purposes specified in this
>>>>>>> Agreement. Licensee will protect the Confidential
>>>>>>> Information with the same degree of care, as Licensee
>>>>>>> uses to protect its own Confidential Information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> message news:eY8hhDycGHA.4224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Whatever you say.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But, that would make Sun the most stupid Company on planet earth to
>>>>>>>> make something so easily accessible by simply typing in Java
>>>>>>>> Mustang on their main page with a quick link to the software. Also,
>>>>>>>> if its under NDA, then why is it accessible to you? I would have
>>>>>>>> expected the link to expire and require you to log in and access
>>>>>>>> it. Could you link me to or quote on their website where it says
>>>>>>>> the software is under NDA?
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Andre
>>>>>>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>>>>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:%23r5fi3xcGHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>I just checked Sun's Website, and the Product that you Mentioned is
>>>>>>>>>Indeed Under an NDA.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> message news:uoIj4uxcGHA.4224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>>> Is this Post a Sun Microsystem's Beta NDA Violation (or is it a
>>>>>>>>>> Public Beta)?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Andre Da Costa" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:307A3BE6-9C96-4593-B389-9A868C9E5173@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>I downloaded the beta 2 copy of Java Mustang which enables Glass
>>>>>>>>>>>support in
>>>>>>>>>>> certain Java based applications. I don't know if you have
>>>>>>>>>>> experienced this,
>>>>>>>>>>> when you open an app built around Java, it turns off DWM. With
>>>>>>>>>>> Mustang it
>>>>>>>>>>> enables Glass and the app blends in beautifully.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the x86 version for those interested:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.java.net/download/jd...4_may_2006.exe
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> x64 version here:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://download.java.net/download/jd...4_may_2006.exe
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Actually, it does... Or, at least, it might.
There is a VERY vague paragraph in the GPL FAQ which I never quite
understood. According to this, nVidia's and ATI's graphics drivers for Linux
(just to give an example) can actually be illegal, depending on how you
interpret it :-)

"If the program dynamically links plug-ins, and they make function calls to
each other and share data structures, we believe they form a single program,
which must be treated as an extension of both the main program and the
plug-ins. This means the plug-ins must be released under the GPL or a
GPL-compatible free software license, and that the terms of the GPL must be
followed when those plug-ins are distributed."

From http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLAndPlugins

Thanks,

Andre Nogueira



"Chris Altmann" <altmann@surewest.net> wrote in message
news:O7D5RJAdGHA.2068@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> The GPL doesn't affect software bundled with GPLd software.
>
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uzttWe9cGHA.3352@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> You are right, I forgot about that, I am confusing Solaris, which is
>> under GPL. That is contradictory though, Open Solaris is governed by GPL,
>> which would apply to Java since it is in Open Solaris.
>> --
>> --
>> Andre
>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>
>> "Chris Altmann" <avalid@emailaddress.zoo> wrote in message
>> news:uv5sEI8cGHA.3632@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Java or its SDK are NOT licensed under the GPL, and do not require you
>>> to license software you create using it under the GPL. Anything else in
>>> this thread I have no comment on as I find it confusing (having one of
>>> its participants killfiled will do that .
>>>
>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OKe6hkycGHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Its distributed under the GNU Public License, which means, if you
>>>> created something from the Java Mustang SDK, then you have to make it
>>>> available to Sun and the Open Source Community. So it is not under any
>>>> NDA. Confidentiality agreement is specific to if you are in a private
>>>> beta for this software, this is a publicly available piece of software.
>>>>
>>>> Stop scaring people.
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> Andre
>>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>
>>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:OuR6ONycGHA.564@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> P.S. Give Special Attention to the Following:
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.2 Licensed Software is "Confidential Information".
>>>>> Licensee may not disclose or use Confidential
>>>>> Information, except for the purposes specified in this
>>>>> Agreement. Licensee will protect the Confidential
>>>>> Information with the same degree of care, as Licensee
>>>>> uses to protect its own Confidential Information.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eY8hhDycGHA.4224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Whatever you say.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, that would make Sun the most stupid Company on planet earth to
>>>>>> make something so easily accessible by simply typing in Java Mustang
>>>>>> on their main page with a quick link to the software. Also, if its
>>>>>> under NDA, then why is it accessible to you? I would have expected
>>>>>> the link to expire and require you to log in and access it. Could you
>>>>>> link me to or quote on their website where it says the software is
>>>>>> under NDA?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Andre
>>>>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23r5fi3xcGHA.4976@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>I just checked Sun's Website, and the Product that you Mentioned is
>>>>>>>Indeed Under an NDA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:uoIj4uxcGHA.4224@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Is this Post a Sun Microsystem's Beta NDA Violation (or is it a
>>>>>>>> Public Beta)?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Andre Da Costa" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:307A3BE6-9C96-4593-B389-9A868C9E5173@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>>>>I downloaded the beta 2 copy of Java Mustang which enables Glass
>>>>>>>>>support in
>>>>>>>>> certain Java based applications. I don't know if you have
>>>>>>>>> experienced this,
>>>>>>>>> when you open an app built around Java, it turns off DWM. With
>>>>>>>>> Mustang it
>>>>>>>>> enables Glass and the app blends in beautifully.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is the x86 version for those interested:
>>>>>>>>> http://download.java.net/download/jd...4_may_2006.exe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> x64 version here:
>>>>>>>>> http://download.java.net/download/jd...4_may_2006.exe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

> Please... don't give anyone any ideas!

Meh...I think Kevin ranks way up there with the Star Wars kid and,
uh...well, I can't think of anyone else, really. The difference here is
that Kevin is a willing participant.

And no, I don't think he's smart enough to engage in trolling on this sort
of scale. His replies seem rather selective (not to mention repetitive)...