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| | Remote Assistance for novice with XP to expert with Vista What are the things that an expert running Vista needs to know to successfully help a novice running XP via Remote Assistance? I support friends and family via RA. In the XP to XP world I found that using Live Messenger was generally reliable. I have now upgraded to Vista Ultimate. I get a variety of failue scenarios trying to accept invitations now. No successes. Most commonly, I get one of the following: 1. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice in Messenger that I have accepted, but nothing else happens on either computer. 2. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice and a dialog box to grant sharing permission. I get an indication that I am viewing the novice desktop, but my screen is black. 3. I accept, the novice gets a notice in Messenger and I get an indication that an attempt is being made. Eventually times out saying novice must have stepped away from computer. I can deal with firewalls, registries, and more. I find lots of snippets here and there that give me clues, but can't find my way to a definitive approach. Can someone point me to a KB article or something else that could answer this simple question.... What are the things that an expert running Vista needs to know to successfully help a novice running XP via Remote Assistance? -=Rich=- |
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| | Re: Remote Assistance for novice with XP to expert with Vista forget all that... and use www.crossloop.com you can thank me later for this tip... 2 things you must have in mind, disable UAC and Defender before the session, since these have some problems with crossloop "urbanmicro" <urbanmicro@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EEECC118-62A5-4200-A9F4-71E05D5D0D98@xxxxxx Quote: > What are the things that an expert running Vista needs to know to > successfully help a novice running XP via Remote Assistance? > > I support friends and family via RA. In the XP to XP world I found that > using Live Messenger was generally reliable. I have now upgraded to Vista > Ultimate. I get a variety of failue scenarios trying to accept > invitations > now. No successes. > > Most commonly, I get one of the following: > 1. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice in Messenger that I > have accepted, but nothing else happens on either computer. > 2. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice and a dialog box to > grant sharing permission. I get an indication that I am viewing the > novice > desktop, but my screen is black. > 3. I accept, the novice gets a notice in Messenger and I get an > indication > that an attempt is being made. Eventually times out saying novice must > have > stepped away from computer. > > I can deal with firewalls, registries, and more. I find lots of snippets > here and there that give me clues, but can't find my way to a definitive > approach. > > Can someone point me to a KB article or something else that could answer > this simple question.... What are the things that an expert running Vista > needs to know to successfully help a novice running XP via Remote > Assistance? > > > -=Rich=- |
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| | Re: Remote Assistance for novice with XP to expert with Vista I use Remote Assistance to help XP users from my Vista machine but I use the email method. If they have Outlook Express I tell them to pick the email option if not I have them pick the Create a File option and email it to me with whatever they use for email. Have never had a problem connecting. "urbanmicro" <urbanmicro@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EEECC118-62A5-4200-A9F4-71E05D5D0D98@xxxxxx Quote: > What are the things that an expert running Vista needs to know to > successfully help a novice running XP via Remote Assistance? > > I support friends and family via RA. In the XP to XP world I found that > using Live Messenger was generally reliable. I have now upgraded to Vista > Ultimate. I get a variety of failue scenarios trying to accept > invitations > now. No successes. > > Most commonly, I get one of the following: > 1. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice in Messenger that I > have accepted, but nothing else happens on either computer. > 2. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice and a dialog box to > grant sharing permission. I get an indication that I am viewing the > novice > desktop, but my screen is black. > 3. I accept, the novice gets a notice in Messenger and I get an > indication > that an attempt is being made. Eventually times out saying novice must > have > stepped away from computer. > > I can deal with firewalls, registries, and more. I find lots of snippets > here and there that give me clues, but can't find my way to a definitive > approach. > > Can someone point me to a KB article or something else that could answer > this simple question.... What are the things that an expert running Vista > needs to know to successfully help a novice running XP via Remote > Assistance? > > > -=Rich=- Mark R. Cusumano Skype Name: mark.cusumano Web: http://The-Padded-Cell.spaces.live.com |
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| Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64 | Re: Remote Assistance for novice with XP to expert with Vista What are the things that an expert running Vista needs to know to successfully help a novice running XP via Remote Assistance? I support friends and family via RA. In the XP to XP world I found that using Live Messenger was generally reliable. I have now upgraded to Vista Ultimate. I get a variety of failue scenarios trying to accept invitations now. No successes. Most commonly, I get one of the following: 1. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice in Messenger that I have accepted, but nothing else happens on either computer. 2. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice and a dialog box to grant sharing permission. I get an indication that I am viewing the novice desktop, but my screen is black. 3. I accept, the novice gets a notice in Messenger and I get an indication that an attempt is being made. Eventually times out saying novice must have stepped away from computer. I can deal with firewalls, registries, and more. I find lots of snippets here and there that give me clues, but can't find my way to a definitive approach. Can someone point me to a KB article or something else that could answer this simple question.... What are the things that an expert running Vista needs to know to successfully help a novice running XP via Remote Assistance? -=Rich=- This may be able to help. It also has some links to KB articles. Remote Assistance Shawn |
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| | Re: Remote Assistance for novice with XP to expert with Vista Mark, Are you using Vista against XP novices? Independent of this particular challenge, I had trouble with email invitations due either to NAT or DHCP IP address changes in the past. Was having pretty good luck with Messenger until this. Your suggestion is worth a try. I'll keep digging until I solve this one way or another. -=Rich=- "Mark R. Cusumano" wrote: Quote: > I use Remote Assistance to help XP users from my Vista machine but I use the > email method. If they have Outlook Express I tell them to pick the email > option if not I have them pick the Create a File option and email it to me > with whatever they use for email. Have never had a problem connecting. > > "urbanmicro" <urbanmicro@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:EEECC118-62A5-4200-A9F4-71E05D5D0D98@xxxxxx Quote: > > What are the things that an expert running Vista needs to know to > > successfully help a novice running XP via Remote Assistance? > > > > I support friends and family via RA. In the XP to XP world I found that > > using Live Messenger was generally reliable. I have now upgraded to Vista > > Ultimate. I get a variety of failue scenarios trying to accept > > invitations > > now. No successes. > > > > Most commonly, I get one of the following: > > 1. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice in Messenger that I > > have accepted, but nothing else happens on either computer. > > 2. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice and a dialog box to > > grant sharing permission. I get an indication that I am viewing the > > novice > > desktop, but my screen is black. > > 3. I accept, the novice gets a notice in Messenger and I get an > > indication > > that an attempt is being made. Eventually times out saying novice must > > have > > stepped away from computer. > > > > I can deal with firewalls, registries, and more. I find lots of snippets > > here and there that give me clues, but can't find my way to a definitive > > approach. > > > > Can someone point me to a KB article or something else that could answer > > this simple question.... What are the things that an expert running Vista > > needs to know to successfully help a novice running XP via Remote > > Assistance? > > > > > > -=Rich=- > -- > Mark R. Cusumano > Skype Name: mark.cusumano > Web: http://The-Padded-Cell.spaces.live.com > > > > |
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| | Re: Remote Assistance for novice with XP to expert with Vista Yes, I am on a Vista Laptop and the people I am helping are on XP machines. Most of them are using webmail and do use either Outlook Express or Messenger so their only option is to create the Invitation File and email it to me through their webmail or whatever mail reader they are using. So far I have had no problems. I have tried with with all combinations or router/routerless connections (ie neither side is behind a router, both sides are behind a router, one or the other side is behind a router) and haven't had any problems but then again the routers didn't have any unusual settings in them. "urbanmicro" <urbanmicro@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:F39F267B-A48D-43DD-A5D9-CA97F559271C@xxxxxx Quote: > Mark, > Are you using Vista against XP novices? > > Independent of this particular challenge, I had trouble with email > invitations due either to NAT or DHCP IP address changes in the past. Was > having pretty good luck with Messenger until this. Your suggestion is > worth > a try. > > I'll keep digging until I solve this one way or another. > -=Rich=- > > "Mark R. Cusumano" wrote: > Quote: >> I use Remote Assistance to help XP users from my Vista machine but I use >> the >> email method. If they have Outlook Express I tell them to pick the email >> option if not I have them pick the Create a File option and email it to >> me >> with whatever they use for email. Have never had a problem connecting. >> >> "urbanmicro" <urbanmicro@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:EEECC118-62A5-4200-A9F4-71E05D5D0D98@xxxxxx Quote: >> > What are the things that an expert running Vista needs to know to >> > successfully help a novice running XP via Remote Assistance? >> > >> > I support friends and family via RA. In the XP to XP world I found >> > that >> > using Live Messenger was generally reliable. I have now upgraded to >> > Vista >> > Ultimate. I get a variety of failue scenarios trying to accept >> > invitations >> > now. No successes. >> > >> > Most commonly, I get one of the following: >> > 1. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice in Messenger >> > that I >> > have accepted, but nothing else happens on either computer. >> > 2. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice and a dialog box >> > to >> > grant sharing permission. I get an indication that I am viewing the >> > novice >> > desktop, but my screen is black. >> > 3. I accept, the novice gets a notice in Messenger and I get an >> > indication >> > that an attempt is being made. Eventually times out saying novice must >> > have >> > stepped away from computer. >> > >> > I can deal with firewalls, registries, and more. I find lots of >> > snippets >> > here and there that give me clues, but can't find my way to a >> > definitive >> > approach. >> > >> > Can someone point me to a KB article or something else that could >> > answer >> > this simple question.... What are the things that an expert running >> > Vista >> > needs to know to successfully help a novice running XP via Remote >> > Assistance? >> > >> > >> > -=Rich=- >> -- >> Mark R. Cusumano >> Skype Name: mark.cusumano >> Web: http://The-Padded-Cell.spaces.live.com >> >> >> >> Mark R. Cusumano Skype Name: mark.cusumano Web: http://The-Padded-Cell.spaces.live.com |
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| | Re: Remote Assistance for novice with XP to expert with Vista I agree with Mark. I use the same method between Vista and XP. However, I've stuck with telling the person on the XP machine to use their regular email program and have not had anyone contact me via Express. Mark R. Cusumano wrote: Quote: > I use Remote Assistance to help XP users from my Vista machine but I use > the email method. If they have Outlook Express I tell them to pick the > email option if not I have them pick the Create a File option and email > it to me with whatever they use for email. Have never had a problem > connecting. > > "urbanmicro" <urbanmicro@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:EEECC118-62A5-4200-A9F4-71E05D5D0D98@xxxxxx Quote: >> What are the things that an expert running Vista needs to know to >> successfully help a novice running XP via Remote Assistance? >> >> I support friends and family via RA. In the XP to XP world I found that >> using Live Messenger was generally reliable. I have now upgraded to >> Vista >> Ultimate. I get a variety of failue scenarios trying to accept >> invitations >> now. No successes. >> >> Most commonly, I get one of the following: >> 1. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice in Messenger >> that I >> have accepted, but nothing else happens on either computer. >> 2. I accept the invitation. The novice gets a notice and a dialog >> box to >> grant sharing permission. I get an indication that I am viewing the >> novice >> desktop, but my screen is black. >> 3. I accept, the novice gets a notice in Messenger and I get an >> indication >> that an attempt is being made. Eventually times out saying novice >> must have >> stepped away from computer. >> >> I can deal with firewalls, registries, and more. I find lots of snippets >> here and there that give me clues, but can't find my way to a definitive >> approach. >> >> Can someone point me to a KB article or something else that could answer >> this simple question.... What are the things that an expert running >> Vista >> needs to know to successfully help a novice running XP via Remote >> Assistance? >> >> >> -=Rich=- |
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