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Old 02-17-2008   #1 (permalink)
Morgan


 
 

Vista crashing randomly.

Hi,

I have a new inspiron 1520 laptop running Vista. Since purchase there have
been a number of "unexpected errors" where the pc turns off (doesn't
restart). When I check problem reports and check for solutions it says a
fatal error occured which is due to antivirus software (PC was shipped with
McAfee). I have done everything with McAfee help including complete removal
and reinstall, clearing up the keys, and running multiple scans. I also have
downloaded all windows updates. I also have scanned disk, cleared memory
caches, defagrmented disks and increased virtual memory.

Assuming it may be a problem with McAfee, I removed McAfee and installed
Norton 360 instead. The problem continues and I have been through everything
with Norton help desk. There is obviously something conflicting.

If it helps, the problem often (though not exclusively) happens when my son
is on YouTube - which has become our standard method of testing now. But it
has happened to me when I went to launch control panel so I don't know if
there is a connection. Also, in the problem report there are a number of
problems reported recently apart from "Windows shut down unexpectedly". There
are also "Windows Modules Installer Failure" and "Superfetch stopped working"
around teh time of the system crashes.

I am happy to give detail on any of these if it helps - would appreciate any
pointers or tips anybody has for me.

Regards
Morgan

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-17-2008   #2 (permalink)
DL


 
 

Re: Vista crashing randomly.

Remove both Norton & McAfee if it is still there, you may have to resort to
a manual removal method as specified on Symantec site under ' How to
completely remove'
Reboot after any uninstall.
Ensure Win Firewall is on, then conduct your YouTube tests
& report back on any err msgs

"Morgan" <Morgan@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:A6A4359F-733E-4A97-AA61-86CCEE6621AF@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a new inspiron 1520 laptop running Vista. Since purchase there have
> been a number of "unexpected errors" where the pc turns off (doesn't
> restart). When I check problem reports and check for solutions it says a
> fatal error occured which is due to antivirus software (PC was shipped
> with
> McAfee). I have done everything with McAfee help including complete
> removal
> and reinstall, clearing up the keys, and running multiple scans. I also
> have
> downloaded all windows updates. I also have scanned disk, cleared memory
> caches, defagrmented disks and increased virtual memory.
>
> Assuming it may be a problem with McAfee, I removed McAfee and installed
> Norton 360 instead. The problem continues and I have been through
> everything
> with Norton help desk. There is obviously something conflicting.
>
> If it helps, the problem often (though not exclusively) happens when my
> son
> is on YouTube - which has become our standard method of testing now. But
> it
> has happened to me when I went to launch control panel so I don't know if
> there is a connection. Also, in the problem report there are a number of
> problems reported recently apart from "Windows shut down unexpectedly".
> There
> are also "Windows Modules Installer Failure" and "Superfetch stopped
> working"
> around teh time of the system crashes.
>
> I am happy to give detail on any of these if it helps - would appreciate
> any
> pointers or tips anybody has for me.
>
> Regards
> Morgan

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-17-2008   #3 (permalink)
Mick Murphy


 
 

RE: Vista crashing randomly.

http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html

Get rid of Norton as well.
They are both very heavy resource-using garbage programs.

Use Avast which is 32bit and 64bit Vista compatible

"Morgan" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a new inspiron 1520 laptop running Vista. Since purchase there have
> been a number of "unexpected errors" where the pc turns off (doesn't
> restart). When I check problem reports and check for solutions it says a
> fatal error occured which is due to antivirus software (PC was shipped with
> McAfee). I have done everything with McAfee help including complete removal
> and reinstall, clearing up the keys, and running multiple scans. I also have
> downloaded all windows updates. I also have scanned disk, cleared memory
> caches, defagrmented disks and increased virtual memory.
>
> Assuming it may be a problem with McAfee, I removed McAfee and installed
> Norton 360 instead. The problem continues and I have been through everything
> with Norton help desk. There is obviously something conflicting.
>
> If it helps, the problem often (though not exclusively) happens when my son
> is on YouTube - which has become our standard method of testing now. But it
> has happened to me when I went to launch control panel so I don't know if
> there is a connection. Also, in the problem report there are a number of
> problems reported recently apart from "Windows shut down unexpectedly". There
> are also "Windows Modules Installer Failure" and "Superfetch stopped working"
> around teh time of the system crashes.
>
> I am happy to give detail on any of these if it helps - would appreciate any
> pointers or tips anybody has for me.
>
> Regards
> Morgan
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-17-2008   #4 (permalink)
Jerry Hughes


 
 

RE: Vista crashing randomly.

If I were you I'd uninstall all your anti-virus software and install
Micorsoft LiveOne Care because, right now, I think it is being offered on a
90 day, free trial basis. Run that and see if the problem returns. All I
have is Windows Defender as my primary and I downloaded the free versions of
Spyware Doctor (which is GREAT) and Super Anti-Spyware. I DO NOT allow the
last two to run in the background, not even self update, but when I use them
I do it all manually. Can't believe what Spyware Doctor finds that the so
called "Big Boys" miss! Good luck!

Jerry

"Morgan" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a new inspiron 1520 laptop running Vista. Since purchase there have
> been a number of "unexpected errors" where the pc turns off (doesn't
> restart). When I check problem reports and check for solutions it says a
> fatal error occured which is due to antivirus software (PC was shipped with
> McAfee). I have done everything with McAfee help including complete removal
> and reinstall, clearing up the keys, and running multiple scans. I also have
> downloaded all windows updates. I also have scanned disk, cleared memory
> caches, defagrmented disks and increased virtual memory.
>
> Assuming it may be a problem with McAfee, I removed McAfee and installed
> Norton 360 instead. The problem continues and I have been through everything
> with Norton help desk. There is obviously something conflicting.
>
> If it helps, the problem often (though not exclusively) happens when my son
> is on YouTube - which has become our standard method of testing now. But it
> has happened to me when I went to launch control panel so I don't know if
> there is a connection. Also, in the problem report there are a number of
> problems reported recently apart from "Windows shut down unexpectedly". There
> are also "Windows Modules Installer Failure" and "Superfetch stopped working"
> around teh time of the system crashes.
>
> I am happy to give detail on any of these if it helps - would appreciate any
> pointers or tips anybody has for me.
>
> Regards
> Morgan
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-18-2008   #5 (permalink)
PNutts


 
 

RE: Vista crashing randomly.

You should also make sure the Flash Player is up-to-date. Go to
http://www.adobe.com/flash and click the "Get Flash Player" button to ensure
you have the latest version.

Here's a deep link:
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/downl...ShockwaveFlash

"Morgan" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a new inspiron 1520 laptop running Vista. Since purchase there have
> been a number of "unexpected errors" where the pc turns off (doesn't
> restart). When I check problem reports and check for solutions it says a
> fatal error occured which is due to antivirus software (PC was shipped with
> McAfee). I have done everything with McAfee help including complete removal
> and reinstall, clearing up the keys, and running multiple scans. I also have
> downloaded all windows updates. I also have scanned disk, cleared memory
> caches, defagrmented disks and increased virtual memory.
>
> Assuming it may be a problem with McAfee, I removed McAfee and installed
> Norton 360 instead. The problem continues and I have been through everything
> with Norton help desk. There is obviously something conflicting.
>
> If it helps, the problem often (though not exclusively) happens when my son
> is on YouTube - which has become our standard method of testing now. But it
> has happened to me when I went to launch control panel so I don't know if
> there is a connection. Also, in the problem report there are a number of
> problems reported recently apart from "Windows shut down unexpectedly". There
> are also "Windows Modules Installer Failure" and "Superfetch stopped working"
> around teh time of the system crashes.
>
> I am happy to give detail on any of these if it helps - would appreciate any
> pointers or tips anybody has for me.
>
> Regards
> Morgan
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-18-2008   #6 (permalink)
Alex McFarlane


 
 

Re: Vista crashing randomly.

NO NO NO
OneCare is hopeless.
Only 3 computers in a circle
takes over your computer and locks down the firewall so tight that your
pc/laptop is left more isolated than being stand alone on a small 60 mile
piece of rock that was called Pluto when I was a child.
It's not free either.
AMcF
"Jerry Hughes" <JerryHughes@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:CCC6254D-80E7-453F-893D-90A7D2B5B6A9@xxxxxx
Quote:

> If I were you I'd uninstall all your anti-virus software and install
> Micorsoft LiveOne Care because, right now, I think it is being offered on
> a
> 90 day, free trial basis. Run that and see if the problem returns. All I
> have is Windows Defender as my primary and I downloaded the free versions
> of
> Spyware Doctor (which is GREAT) and Super Anti-Spyware. I DO NOT allow
> the
> last two to run in the background, not even self update, but when I use
> them
> I do it all manually. Can't believe what Spyware Doctor finds that the so
> called "Big Boys" miss! Good luck!
>
> Jerry
>
> "Morgan" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a new inspiron 1520 laptop running Vista. Since purchase there
>> have
>> been a number of "unexpected errors" where the pc turns off (doesn't
>> restart). When I check problem reports and check for solutions it says a
>> fatal error occured which is due to antivirus software (PC was shipped
>> with
>> McAfee). I have done everything with McAfee help including complete
>> removal
>> and reinstall, clearing up the keys, and running multiple scans. I also
>> have
>> downloaded all windows updates. I also have scanned disk, cleared memory
>> caches, defagrmented disks and increased virtual memory.
>>
>> Assuming it may be a problem with McAfee, I removed McAfee and installed
>> Norton 360 instead. The problem continues and I have been through
>> everything
>> with Norton help desk. There is obviously something conflicting.
>>
>> If it helps, the problem often (though not exclusively) happens when my
>> son
>> is on YouTube - which has become our standard method of testing now. But
>> it
>> has happened to me when I went to launch control panel so I don't know if
>> there is a connection. Also, in the problem report there are a number of
>> problems reported recently apart from "Windows shut down unexpectedly".
>> There
>> are also "Windows Modules Installer Failure" and "Superfetch stopped
>> working"
>> around teh time of the system crashes.
>>
>> I am happy to give detail on any of these if it helps - would appreciate
>> any
>> pointers or tips anybody has for me.
>>
>> Regards
>> Morgan
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-18-2008   #7 (permalink)
Morgan


 
 

RE: Vista crashing randomly.

Gentlemen,

Thank you all for your suggestions - gives me something to work on. If the
problem keeps going I will repost.

FYI - I got 2 laptops and this problem only occurs on one - however the
other has more processing and memory so maybe it is a resource issue.

I have spybot installed which I run manually. The wndows frewall is turned
off but if I remove antivirus I will switch it back on.

Again - really appreciate the suggestions.

Morgan



"Morgan" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a new inspiron 1520 laptop running Vista. Since purchase there have
> been a number of "unexpected errors" where the pc turns off (doesn't
> restart). When I check problem reports and check for solutions it says a
> fatal error occured which is due to antivirus software (PC was shipped with
> McAfee). I have done everything with McAfee help including complete removal
> and reinstall, clearing up the keys, and running multiple scans. I also have
> downloaded all windows updates. I also have scanned disk, cleared memory
> caches, defagrmented disks and increased virtual memory.
>
> Assuming it may be a problem with McAfee, I removed McAfee and installed
> Norton 360 instead. The problem continues and I have been through everything
> with Norton help desk. There is obviously something conflicting.
>
> If it helps, the problem often (though not exclusively) happens when my son
> is on YouTube - which has become our standard method of testing now. But it
> has happened to me when I went to launch control panel so I don't know if
> there is a connection. Also, in the problem report there are a number of
> problems reported recently apart from "Windows shut down unexpectedly". There
> are also "Windows Modules Installer Failure" and "Superfetch stopped working"
> around teh time of the system crashes.
>
> I am happy to give detail on any of these if it helps - would appreciate any
> pointers or tips anybody has for me.
>
> Regards
> Morgan
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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