Vista - What a Mistake!

02-19-2008

In article <fpffm0$t85$1@xxxxxx>,
Gordon <gbplinux@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>
>Tomcat would seem to be a subset of Apache server? (correct me if I'm
>wrong)

You're wrong :-) :-) :-) Tomcat is a seperate project, it's
an application server like...websphere...

02-19-2008

"Joseph Meehan" <sligoNoSPAMjoe@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eAOn8JycIHA.5160@xxxxxx

Quote:

> "DennisC" <dennis_crowley@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:f81d789a-14c0-4287-a6c8-5c3d2291f02f@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> I purchased two new computers in the past six months. A CyberPower
>> desktop with Vista Home Premium and an Acer laptop with Vista Home
>> Basic. Thank goodness I kept my old Dell with XP Pro. I find I spend
>> almost all of my computer time on the Dell. Vista does not seem to do
>> anything any better then XP and does many things worse. To wit:
>> 1. I can not record a CD from the CD player with out hardwiring the
>> audio card headphone out to the audio in.

Sounds like a hardware issue. Cyberpower has a spotty reputation.
http://www.resellerratings.com/store/CyberPower
Have you tried their tech support. I'll bet they're completely UNhelpful.
I owned a Cyberpower machine once.

02-19-2008

On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:15:31 +0000, Gordon wrote:

Quote:

> "DennisC" <dennis_crowley@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:f81d789a-14c0-4287-a6c8-5c3d2291f02f@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> 2. I can not use my company Web mail (MS Exchange server) as it does
>> not work with Vista.

>
> I beleive there is an Exchange patch that your exchange admin has to
> apply to allow OWA from Vista....
>

Quote:

>> 3. Many of my old programs were not compatible with Vista

>
> So you didn't check first? the Upgrade advisor would have told you that.

Really!?!?

The upgrade advisor knows about *EVERY SINGLE* program in existance?

So if I write a new program tomorrow that nobody in the world has seen
yet, it'll be able to tell me if it can run on Vista?

--
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02-19-2008

In reading the thread at hand it would appear that none of your
responses are relevant.

There is a ton of child like quips about how you should by a Mac or its
the users fault for not checking, or how stupid you are for buying a
mass market laptop with Vista, or run Linux or other such crap.

Non of this is remotely constructive in fixing or relaying information
on a forum discussing VISTA! Some of us would like answers to questions
concerning problem solving VISTA issues. Not insulting tripe about how
you should by some other piece of hardware or software.

I am looking at "Downgrading" to XP, but I want to make sure my new
Laptop investment wont fail because I don't have some silly driver made
only for Vista because it's brand-new-ness.

Note for the Mac Nazis: I Don't want one - And I used to work for Apple
- Wrap your head around that.

I would much rather install Linux and work through some minor issues
than replace all of my hardware and software just to follow another set
of mindless drones.

Lets work on handing out information on Vista - The focus of the forum.

Thank you,
Shock

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02-19-2008

In article <ekEdWY2cIHA.5668@xxxxxx>,
Bruce Chambers <bchambers@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>
> *NOT* a Vista issue. Contact your company's IT department and
>cordially invite them to join the 21st century. The OS is irrelevant to
>Outlook Web Access, but the browser version may not be, depending upon
>how the server is configured.
>

Care to elaborate on that?

02-19-2008

"DennisC" <dennis_crowley@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:f81d789a-14c0-4287-a6c8-5c3d2291f02f@xxxxxx

Quote:

>I purchased two new computers in the past six months. A CyberPower
> desktop with Vista Home Premium and an Acer laptop with Vista Home
> Basic. Thank goodness I kept my old Dell with XP Pro. I find I spend
> almost all of my computer time on the Dell. Vista does not seem to do
> anything any better then XP and does many things worse. To wit:
> 1. I can not record a CD from the CD player with out hardwiring the
> audio card headphone out to the audio in.

This should easily just work. Are you getting any digital feed from the
player at all? Read: can you play audio normally from the player? You can
WMP's Tools:Options

evices settings for that drive to check if Playback and
Ripping are using Analog Or Digital. You might want to try the other.

But I don't know how you're taping line-in here - it sounds like you're not
ripping from the player but instead are using some other random third party
recording utility..... ?

Quote:

> 3. Many of my old programs were not compatible with Vista and even
> though I purchased new versions they are still buggy (i.e., Windows
> COM errors).

Which applications?
What COM errors are you referring to?

Quote:

> 5. Many web sites (Outback Steakhouse for one) do not display
> graphics. I just get the little box with the red x in the box.

If you're having problems viewing PNG files, that may be the result of a
third party accidentally blocking access to PNG registry keys. Could you
right-click on a couple of the "X"s and verify what file types those
non-appearing images were supposed to be? I believe an earlier version of
Apple's QuickTime could accidentally do that (?) - there's a thread in
microsoft.public.vista.administration_accounts_passwords on the subject that
might be helpful.

-Zach
--
Speaking for myself only.
See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

04-12-2008

I'm very happy that you addressed the individual issues instead of flaming MS
and saying "Vista sucks" in general. Therefore, I will try to provide as
many answers as I can.
--
"...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people
who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the
self-esteem issues they must have ;-)"
â€”Mark R. Cusumano

"DennisC" wrote:

Quote:

> I purchased two new computers in the past six months. A CyberPower
> desktop with Vista Home Premium and an Acer laptop with Vista Home
> Basic. Thank goodness I kept my old Dell with XP Pro. I find I spend
> almost all of my computer time on the Dell. Vista does not seem to do
> anything any better then XP and does many things worse. To wit:
> 1. I can not record a CD from the CD player with out hardwiring the
> audio card headphone out to the audio in.

I think that this issue (which, until recently, I had too) has to do with
your sound card and its functions of recording. You may need a new sound
card to be able to directly record from the software standpoint.

Quote:

> 2. I can not use my company Web mail (MS Exchange server) as it does
> not work with Vista.
> 3. Many of my old programs were not compatible with Vista and even
> though I purchased new versions they are still buggy (i.e., Windows
> COM errors).

On the old programs, did you try running in "compatibility mode" for XP?

Quote:

> 4. Windows Update does not recognize me as the Administrator so I can
> not install Windows update.
> 5. Many web sites (Outback Steakhouse for one) do not display
> graphics. I just get the little box with the red x in the box.
>
> I am very close to donating both of these computers to charity and
> buying a PowerMac. I don't have the technical skills to uninstall
> Vista and install XP. I understand there are driver issues in trying
> to downgrade to XP.

As another said, buying a Mac when you don't have the skills to get Vista to
work mwill be even more of a headache than getting your favorite programs to
work on Vista. You'll need to figure out things like: Emulation, Virtual
Machinery, and Dual-Booting.

Quote:

> What a mess!!!
>

02-19-2008	#21 (permalink)
the wharf rat n/a posts	Re: What a Mistake! In article <fpffm0$t85$1@xxxxxx>, Gordon <gbplinux@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > >Tomcat would seem to be a subset of Apache server? (correct me if I'm >wrong) You're wrong :-) :-) :-) Tomcat is a seperate project, it's an application server like...websphere...
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02-19-2008	#22 (permalink)
DP n/a posts	Re: What a Mistake! "Joseph Meehan" <sligoNoSPAMjoe@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eAOn8JycIHA.5160@xxxxxx Quote: > "DennisC" <dennis_crowley@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:f81d789a-14c0-4287-a6c8-5c3d2291f02f@xxxxxx Quote: >> I purchased two new computers in the past six months. A CyberPower >> desktop with Vista Home Premium and an Acer laptop with Vista Home >> Basic. Thank goodness I kept my old Dell with XP Pro. I find I spend >> almost all of my computer time on the Dell. Vista does not seem to do >> anything any better then XP and does many things worse. To wit: >> 1. I can not record a CD from the CD player with out hardwiring the >> audio card headphone out to the audio in. Sounds like a hardware issue. Cyberpower has a spotty reputation. http://www.resellerratings.com/store/CyberPower Have you tried their tech support. I'll bet they're completely UNhelpful. I owned a Cyberpower machine once.
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02-19-2008	#23 (permalink)
Stephan Rose n/a posts	Re: What a Mistake! On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:15:31 +0000, Gordon wrote: Quote: > "DennisC" <dennis_crowley@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:f81d789a-14c0-4287-a6c8-5c3d2291f02f@xxxxxx Quote: >> 2. I can not use my company Web mail (MS Exchange server) as it does >> not work with Vista. > > I beleive there is an Exchange patch that your exchange admin has to > apply to allow OWA from Vista.... > Quote: >> 3. Many of my old programs were not compatible with Vista > > So you didn't check first? the Upgrade advisor would have told you that. Really!?!? The upgrade advisor knows about EVERY SINGLE program in existance? So if I write a new program tomorrow that nobody in the world has seen yet, it'll be able to tell me if it can run on Vista? -- Stephan 1986 Pontiac Fiero GT å›ã®äº‹æ€ã„å‡ºã™æ—¥ãªã‚“ã¦ãªã„ã®ã¯ å›ã®äº‹å¿˜ã‚ŒãŸã¨ããŒãªã„ã‹ã‚‰
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02-19-2008	#24 (permalink)
ShockSystem n/a posts	Re: What a Mistake! In reading the thread at hand it would appear that none of your responses are relevant. There is a ton of child like quips about how you should by a Mac or its the users fault for not checking, or how stupid you are for buying a mass market laptop with Vista, or run Linux or other such crap. Non of this is remotely constructive in fixing or relaying information on a forum discussing VISTA! Some of us would like answers to questions concerning problem solving VISTA issues. Not insulting tripe about how you should by some other piece of hardware or software. I am looking at "Downgrading" to XP, but I want to make sure my new Laptop investment wont fail because I don't have some silly driver made only for Vista because it's brand-new-ness. Note for the Mac Nazis: I Don't want one - And I used to work for Apple - Wrap your head around that. I would much rather install Linux and work through some minor issues than replace all of my hardware and software just to follow another set of mindless drones. Lets work on handing out information on Vista - The focus of the forum. Thank you, Shock -- ShockSystem Posted via http://www.vistaheads.com
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02-19-2008	#25 (permalink)
the wharf rat n/a posts	Re: What a Mistake! In article <ekEdWY2cIHA.5668@xxxxxx>, Bruce Chambers <bchambers@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > > NOT a Vista issue. Contact your company's IT department and >cordially invite them to join the 21st century. The OS is irrelevant to >Outlook Web Access, but the browser version may not be, depending upon >how the server is configured. > Care to elaborate on that?
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02-19-2008	#26 (permalink)
zachd [MSFT] n/a posts	Re: What a Mistake! "DennisC" <dennis_crowley@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:f81d789a-14c0-4287-a6c8-5c3d2291f02f@xxxxxx Quote: >I purchased two new computers in the past six months. A CyberPower > desktop with Vista Home Premium and an Acer laptop with Vista Home > Basic. Thank goodness I kept my old Dell with XP Pro. I find I spend > almost all of my computer time on the Dell. Vista does not seem to do > anything any better then XP and does many things worse. To wit: > 1. I can not record a CD from the CD player with out hardwiring the > audio card headphone out to the audio in. This should easily just work. Are you getting any digital feed from the player at all? Read: can you play audio normally from the player? You can WMP's Tools:Optionsevices settings for that drive to check if Playback and Ripping are using Analog Or Digital. You might want to try the other. But I don't know how you're taping line-in here - it sounds like you're not ripping from the player but instead are using some other random third party recording utility..... ? Quote: > 3. Many of my old programs were not compatible with Vista and even > though I purchased new versions they are still buggy (i.e., Windows > COM errors). Which applications? What COM errors are you referring to? Quote: > 5. Many web sites (Outback Steakhouse for one) do not display > graphics. I just get the little box with the red x in the box. If you're having problems viewing PNG files, that may be the result of a third party accidentally blocking access to PNG registry keys. Could you right-click on a couple of the "X"s and verify what file types those non-appearing images were supposed to be? I believe an earlier version of Apple's QuickTime could accidentally do that (?) - there's a thread in microsoft.public.vista.administration_accounts_passwords on the subject that might be helpful. -Zach -- Speaking for myself only. See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info. This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
My System Specs

04-12-2008	#27 (permalink)
Sam n/a posts	RE: What a Mistake! I'm very happy that you addressed the individual issues instead of flaming MS and saying "Vista sucks" in general. Therefore, I will try to provide as many answers as I can. -- "...I fail to understand why they feel the need to convince people who are happy with Vista that they are wrong. That is aside from the self-esteem issues they must have ;-)" â€”Mark R. Cusumano "DennisC" wrote: Quote: > I purchased two new computers in the past six months. A CyberPower > desktop with Vista Home Premium and an Acer laptop with Vista Home > Basic. Thank goodness I kept my old Dell with XP Pro. I find I spend > almost all of my computer time on the Dell. Vista does not seem to do > anything any better then XP and does many things worse. To wit: > 1. I can not record a CD from the CD player with out hardwiring the > audio card headphone out to the audio in. I think that this issue (which, until recently, I had too) has to do with your sound card and its functions of recording. You may need a new sound card to be able to directly record from the software standpoint. Quote: > 2. I can not use my company Web mail (MS Exchange server) as it does > not work with Vista. > 3. Many of my old programs were not compatible with Vista and even > though I purchased new versions they are still buggy (i.e., Windows > COM errors). On the old programs, did you try running in "compatibility mode" for XP? Quote: > 4. Windows Update does not recognize me as the Administrator so I can > not install Windows update. > 5. Many web sites (Outback Steakhouse for one) do not display > graphics. I just get the little box with the red x in the box. > > I am very close to donating both of these computers to charity and > buying a PowerMac. I don't have the technical skills to uninstall > Vista and install XP. I understand there are driver issues in trying > to downgrade to XP. As another said, buying a Mac when you don't have the skills to get Vista to work mwill be even more of a headache than getting your favorite programs to work on Vista. You'll need to figure out things like: Emulation, Virtual Machinery, and Dual-Booting. Quote: > What a mess!!! >
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