Vista - Stopping unnecessary programs

02-20-2008

Hi

I have Vista Ultimate and I am getting very poor performance,
when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually have 4G)
over 2500
is cached, leaving less than 50 free.
The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only thing I
have starting up in MSCONFIG
is AVG antivirus, and I do not have many programs installed, just Office,
Train Simulator and Flight Simulator.

Is there a program I can get to stop unnecessary programs and Services from
loading up?

thanks

Daniel

02-20-2008

"Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23$ZuyE5cIHA.4196@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Hi
>
> I have Vista Ultimate and I am getting very poor performance,
> when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually have
> 4G) over 2500
> is cached, leaving less than 50 free.
> The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only thing
> I have starting up in MSCONFIG
> is AVG antivirus, and I do not have many programs installed, just Office,
> Train Simulator and Flight Simulator.
>
> Is there a program I can get to stop unnecessary programs and Services
> from loading up?
>

You sure you don't have malware running that you don't know about?

CurrPorts runs on Vista, and Active Ports doesn't.

<http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Hidden_Backdoors_Trojan_Horses_and_Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html>

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...s/default.aspx

02-20-2008

It is a very recent install and I have AVG, defender and Firewall running.

How can I tell??

cheers

Daniel

"Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> "Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23$ZuyE5cIHA.4196@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Hi
>>
>> I have Vista Ultimate and I am getting very poor performance,
>> when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually have
>> 4G) over 2500
>> is cached, leaving less than 50 free.
>> The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only
>> thing I have starting up in MSCONFIG
>> is AVG antivirus, and I do not have many programs installed, just Office,
>> Train Simulator and Flight Simulator.
>>
>> Is there a program I can get to stop unnecessary programs and Services
>> from loading up?
>>

>
> You sure you don't have malware running that you don't know about?
>
> CurrPorts runs on Vista, and Active Ports doesn't.
>
> <http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Hidden_Backdoors_Trojan_Horses_and_Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html>
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...s/default.aspx

02-20-2008

> when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually have

Quote:

> 4G) over 2500
> is cached, leaving less than 50 free.

Don't worry about that. Unlike XP, Vista pumps as much RAM as possible with
stuff it thinks you're going to need next - Superfetch. Empty RAM is wasted
RAM. It is released the instant a program needs it.

Quote:

> The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only thing
> I have starting up in MSCONFIG
> is AVG antivirus,

That is definitely not right. I don't know what to suggest, but I think it
indicates a problem. What does Task Manager say is using the CPU time?

SteveT

02-20-2008

"Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>> when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually have
>> 4G) over 2500
>> is cached, leaving less than 50 free.

>
> Don't worry about that. Unlike XP, Vista pumps as much RAM as possible
> with stuff it thinks you're going to need next - Superfetch. Empty RAM is
> wasted RAM. It is released the instant a program needs it.
>

Quote:

>> The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only
>> thing I have starting up in MSCONFIG
>> is AVG antivirus,

>
> That is definitely not right. I don't know what to suggest, but I think
> it indicates a problem. What does Task Manager say is using the CPU time?
>
> SteveT

System idle time is 97% and mostly nothing is show as using CPU in task
manager but the graphs in CPU usage history are running up and down for no
apparent reason.

Thanks for the info on the System cache, I took the PC to a professional
shop yesterday because of the poor performance and they told me it was
directly related to the size of the cached memory and that the high number
shows running programs. So much for professional shops.....

BTW, now that the PC has been running for a long time, the CPU seems to have
settled down, so false alarm I guess, but that still leave me with a very
slow system.

Not to worry, I'll look elsewhere.

regards

Daniel

02-20-2008

You gave the clue when you said "recent install"

CPU is running hard because Vista is file indexing to makesearch and
running thecomputer easier
It will settle down in a week or two, depending on your useage of the
computer; time turned on
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia

"Daniel" wrote:

Quote:

> It is a very recent install and I have AVG, defender and Firewall running.
>
> How can I tell??
>
> cheers
>
> Daniel
>
> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e5MgSM5cIHA.4144@xxxxxx

Quote:

> >
> > "Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:%23$ZuyE5cIHA.4196@xxxxxx

Quote:

> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I have Vista Ultimate and I am getting very poor performance,
> >> when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually have
> >> 4G) over 2500
> >> is cached, leaving less than 50 free.
> >> The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only
> >> thing I have starting up in MSCONFIG
> >> is AVG antivirus, and I do not have many programs installed, just Office,
> >> Train Simulator and Flight Simulator.
> >>
> >> Is there a program I can get to stop unnecessary programs and Services
> >> from loading up?
> >>

> >
> > You sure you don't have malware running that you don't know about?
> >
> > CurrPorts runs on Vista, and Active Ports doesn't.
> >
> > <http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Hidden_Backdoors_Trojan_Horses_and_Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html>
> >
> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...s/default.aspx

>
>

02-20-2008

Yes, so I have since figured out.

Thanks for your input

Daniel- a Queenslander stuck in NSW.

"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> You gave the clue when you said "recent install"
>
> CPU is running hard because Vista is file indexing to makesearch and
> running thecomputer easier
> It will settle down in a week or two, depending on your useage of the
> computer; time turned on
> --
> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>
>
> "Daniel" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> It is a very recent install and I have AVG, defender and Firewall
>> running.
>>
>> How can I tell??
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e5MgSM5cIHA.4144@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> >
>> > "Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:%23$ZuyE5cIHA.4196@xxxxxx
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> I have Vista Ultimate and I am getting very poor performance,
>> >> when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually
>> >> have
>> >> 4G) over 2500
>> >> is cached, leaving less than 50 free.
>> >> The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only
>> >> thing I have starting up in MSCONFIG
>> >> is AVG antivirus, and I do not have many programs installed, just
>> >> Office,
>> >> Train Simulator and Flight Simulator.
>> >>
>> >> Is there a program I can get to stop unnecessary programs and Services
>> >> from loading up?
>> >>
>> >
>> > You sure you don't have malware running that you don't know about?
>> >
>> > CurrPorts runs on Vista, and Active Ports doesn't.
>> >
>> > <http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Hidden_Backdoors_Trojan_Horses_and_Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html>
>> >
>> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...s/default.aspx

>>
>>

02-20-2008	#1 (permalink)
Daniel n/a posts	Stopping unnecessary programs Hi I have Vista Ultimate and I am getting very poor performance, when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually have 4G) over 2500 is cached, leaving less than 50 free. The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only thing I have starting up in MSCONFIG is AVG antivirus, and I do not have many programs installed, just Office, Train Simulator and Flight Simulator. Is there a program I can get to stop unnecessary programs and Services from loading up? thanks Daniel
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02-20-2008	#2 (permalink)
Mr. Arnold n/a posts	Re: Stopping unnecessary programs "Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23$ZuyE5cIHA.4196@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi > > I have Vista Ultimate and I am getting very poor performance, > when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually have > 4G) over 2500 > is cached, leaving less than 50 free. > The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only thing > I have starting up in MSCONFIG > is AVG antivirus, and I do not have many programs installed, just Office, > Train Simulator and Flight Simulator. > > Is there a program I can get to stop unnecessary programs and Services > from loading up? > You sure you don't have malware running that you don't know about? CurrPorts runs on Vista, and Active Ports doesn't. <http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Hidden_Backdoors_Trojan_Horses_and_Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...s/default.aspx
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02-20-2008	#3 (permalink)
Daniel n/a posts	Re: Stopping unnecessary programs It is a very recent install and I have AVG, defender and Firewall running. How can I tell?? cheers Daniel "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:e5MgSM5cIHA.4144@xxxxxx Quote: > > "Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:%23$ZuyE5cIHA.4196@xxxxxx Quote: >> Hi >> >> I have Vista Ultimate and I am getting very poor performance, >> when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually have >> 4G) over 2500 >> is cached, leaving less than 50 free. >> The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only >> thing I have starting up in MSCONFIG >> is AVG antivirus, and I do not have many programs installed, just Office, >> Train Simulator and Flight Simulator. >> >> Is there a program I can get to stop unnecessary programs and Services >> from loading up? >> > > You sure you don't have malware running that you don't know about? > > CurrPorts runs on Vista, and Active Ports doesn't. > > <http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Hidden_Backdoors_Trojan_Horses_and_Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html> > > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...s/default.aspx
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02-20-2008	#4 (permalink)
Steve Thackery n/a posts	Re: Stopping unnecessary programs > when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually have Quote: > 4G) over 2500 > is cached, leaving less than 50 free. Don't worry about that. Unlike XP, Vista pumps as much RAM as possible with stuff it thinks you're going to need next - Superfetch. Empty RAM is wasted RAM. It is released the instant a program needs it. Quote: > The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only thing > I have starting up in MSCONFIG > is AVG antivirus, That is definitely not right. I don't know what to suggest, but I think it indicates a problem. What does Task Manager say is using the CPU time? SteveT
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02-20-2008	#5 (permalink)
Daniel n/a posts	Re: Stopping unnecessary programs "Steve Thackery" <nobody@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:ODj95w5cIHA.2688@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually have >> 4G) over 2500 >> is cached, leaving less than 50 free. > > Don't worry about that. Unlike XP, Vista pumps as much RAM as possible > with stuff it thinks you're going to need next - Superfetch. Empty RAM is > wasted RAM. It is released the instant a program needs it. > Quote: >> The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only >> thing I have starting up in MSCONFIG >> is AVG antivirus, > > That is definitely not right. I don't know what to suggest, but I think > it indicates a problem. What does Task Manager say is using the CPU time? > > SteveT System idle time is 97% and mostly nothing is show as using CPU in task manager but the graphs in CPU usage history are running up and down for no apparent reason. Thanks for the info on the System cache, I took the PC to a professional shop yesterday because of the poor performance and they told me it was directly related to the size of the cached memory and that the high number shows running programs. So much for professional shops..... BTW, now that the PC has been running for a long time, the CPU seems to have settled down, so false alarm I guess, but that still leave me with a very slow system. Not to worry, I'll look elsewhere. regards Daniel
My System Specs

02-20-2008	#6 (permalink)
Mick Murphy n/a posts	Re: Stopping unnecessary programs You gave the clue when you said "recent install" CPU is running hard because Vista is file indexing to makesearch and running thecomputer easier It will settle down in a week or two, depending on your useage of the computer; time turned on -- Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia "Daniel" wrote: Quote: > It is a very recent install and I have AVG, defender and Firewall running. > > How can I tell?? > > cheers > > Daniel > > "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:e5MgSM5cIHA.4144@xxxxxx Quote: > > > > "Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message > > news:%23$ZuyE5cIHA.4196@xxxxxx Quote: > >> Hi > >> > >> I have Vista Ultimate and I am getting very poor performance, > >> when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually have > >> 4G) over 2500 > >> is cached, leaving less than 50 free. > >> The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only > >> thing I have starting up in MSCONFIG > >> is AVG antivirus, and I do not have many programs installed, just Office, > >> Train Simulator and Flight Simulator. > >> > >> Is there a program I can get to stop unnecessary programs and Services > >> from loading up? > >> > > > > You sure you don't have malware running that you don't know about? > > > > CurrPorts runs on Vista, and Active Ports doesn't. > > > > <http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Hidden_Backdoors_Trojan_Horses_and_Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html> > > > > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...s/default.aspx > >
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02-20-2008	#7 (permalink)
Daniel n/a posts	Re: Stopping unnecessary programs Yes, so I have since figured out. Thanks for your input Daniel- a Queenslander stuck in NSW. "Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:BC914BAB-3E36-4BAB-A8BB-4C6327846BC3@xxxxxx Quote: > You gave the clue when you said "recent install" > > CPU is running hard because Vista is file indexing to makesearch and > running thecomputer easier > It will settle down in a week or two, depending on your useage of the > computer; time turned on > -- > Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia > > > "Daniel" wrote: > Quote: >> It is a very recent install and I have AVG, defender and Firewall >> running. >> >> How can I tell?? >> >> cheers >> >> Daniel >> >> "Mr. Arnold" <MR. Arnold@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:e5MgSM5cIHA.4144@xxxxxx Quote: >> > >> > "Daniel" <noone@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> > news:%23$ZuyE5cIHA.4196@xxxxxx >> >> Hi >> >> >> >> I have Vista Ultimate and I am getting very poor performance, >> >> when I go to Task manager I see that out of 3069 Mb RAM (I actually >> >> have >> >> 4G) over 2500 >> >> is cached, leaving less than 50 free. >> >> The CPUs are running flat out most of the time, even though the only >> >> thing I have starting up in MSCONFIG >> >> is AVG antivirus, and I do not have many programs installed, just >> >> Office, >> >> Train Simulator and Flight Simulator. >> >> >> >> Is there a program I can get to stop unnecessary programs and Services >> >> from loading up? >> >> >> > >> > You sure you don't have malware running that you don't know about? >> > >> > CurrPorts runs on Vista, and Active Ports doesn't. >> > >> > <http://www.windowsecurity.com/articles/Hidden_Backdoors_Trojan_Horses_and_Rootkit_Tools_in_a_Windows_Environment.html> >> > >> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...s/default.aspx >> >>
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