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Old 02-20-2008   #1 (permalink)
Stephen Saw


 
 

Vista Service Pack 1 Experience

Hi,

After installed Vista Service Pack 1 on my machine, the Windows Experience
Index that let us rate our system did not appear on the place where it should
be, is that in SP1 it has been moved to other location or just simply
removed?

Thanks and regards,
Stephen Saw

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Old 02-20-2008   #2 (permalink)
Mark L. Ferguson


 
 

Re: Vista Service Pack 1 Experience

If you slipstream the Service Pack onto the original disk, you get the Index
(usually set in a .INF by the OEM manufacturer)

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"Stephen Saw" <StephenSaw@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Hi,
>
> After installed Vista Service Pack 1 on my machine, the Windows Experience
> Index that let us rate our system did not appear on the place where it
> should
> be, is that in SP1 it has been moved to other location or just simply
> removed?
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Stephen Saw
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Old 02-20-2008   #3 (permalink)
John Barnett MVP


 
 

Re: Vista Service Pack 1 Experience

Problem is, Mark, slipstreaming SP1 to Vista isn't an easy task, especially
for the less knowledgeable user. I agree it can be done but, as far as I
know, the only method currently available is physically installing another
copy of Vista onto a separate partition, integrating SP1 then converting to
ISO before burning to DVD. None of the current slipstreaming software, again
as far as I know, can cope with slipstreaming Vista.

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Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
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"Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@xxxxxx> wrote in
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Quote:

> If you slipstream the Service Pack onto the original disk, you get the
> Index (usually set in a .INF by the OEM manufacturer)
>
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>
> Mark L. Ferguson
>
> .
> "Stephen Saw" <StephenSaw@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:0E8B4A5B-72CB-417E-AA7C-3E4678C5EB54@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Hi,
>>
>> After installed Vista Service Pack 1 on my machine, the Windows
>> Experience
>> Index that let us rate our system did not appear on the place where it
>> should
>> be, is that in SP1 it has been moved to other location or just simply
>> removed?
>>
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Stephen Saw
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-20-2008   #4 (permalink)
Mark L. Ferguson


 
 

Re: Vista Service Pack 1 Experience

For XP it was built-in to the Service Pack download (/integrate switch). I
didn't know that had changed. Thanks.


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"John Barnett MVP" <freelance@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Problem is, Mark, slipstreaming SP1 to Vista isn't an easy task,
> especially for the less knowledgeable user. I agree it can be done but, as
> far as I know, the only method currently available is physically
> installing another copy of Vista onto a separate partition, integrating
> SP1 then converting to ISO before burning to DVD. None of the current
> slipstreaming software, again as far as I know, can cope with
> slipstreaming Vista.
>
> --
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
> this mail/post..
>
>
> "Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@xxxxxx> wrote in
> message news:0043D086-A157-4600-B2B5-9C3276F8E2D2@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> If you slipstream the Service Pack onto the original disk, you get the
>> Index (usually set in a .INF by the OEM manufacturer)
>>
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>>
>> Mark L. Ferguson
>>
>> .
>> "Stephen Saw" <StephenSaw@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:0E8B4A5B-72CB-417E-AA7C-3E4678C5EB54@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> After installed Vista Service Pack 1 on my machine, the Windows
>>> Experience
>>> Index that let us rate our system did not appear on the place where it
>>> should
>>> be, is that in SP1 it has been moved to other location or just simply
>>> removed?
>>>
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> Stephen Saw
>>
>
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Old 02-20-2008   #5 (permalink)
John Barnett MVP


 
 

Re: Vista Service Pack 1 Experience

It appears Mark that Microsoft have made it more difficult to slipstream SP1
to Vista than previous versions of Windows. I know when I saw the
instructions for slipstreaming my first thought was 'this will certainly put
people off' it is a hell of a lot of work.

--
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Associate Expert
Windows Desktop Experience

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

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"Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@xxxxxx> wrote in
message news:A2B19C68-DBE1-4526-963E-1A3CCBB3A278@xxxxxx
Quote:

> For XP it was built-in to the Service Pack download (/integrate switch). I
> didn't know that had changed. Thanks.
>
>
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> Was this helpful? Then click the "Yes" Ratings button. Voting helps the
> web
> interface.
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>
> Mark L. Ferguson
>
> .
> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1FC740BD-34C5-4083-8392-7828F3129614@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Problem is, Mark, slipstreaming SP1 to Vista isn't an easy task,
>> especially for the less knowledgeable user. I agree it can be done but,
>> as far as I know, the only method currently available is physically
>> installing another copy of Vista onto a separate partition, integrating
>> SP1 then converting to ISO before burning to DVD. None of the current
>> slipstreaming software, again as far as I know, can cope with
>> slipstreaming Vista.
>>
>> --
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Associate Expert
>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>
>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>
>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
>> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
>> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
>> this mail/post..
>>
>>
>> "Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@xxxxxx> wrote in
>> message news:0043D086-A157-4600-B2B5-9C3276F8E2D2@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> If you slipstream the Service Pack onto the original disk, you get the
>>> Index (usually set in a .INF by the OEM manufacturer)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Was this helpful? Then click the "Yes" Ratings button. Voting helps the
>>> web
>>> interface.
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales....htm#RateAPost
>>>
>>> Mark L. Ferguson
>>>
>>> .
>>> "Stephen Saw" <StephenSaw@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:0E8B4A5B-72CB-417E-AA7C-3E4678C5EB54@xxxxxx
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> After installed Vista Service Pack 1 on my machine, the Windows
>>>> Experience
>>>> Index that let us rate our system did not appear on the place where it
>>>> should
>>>> be, is that in SP1 it has been moved to other location or just simply
>>>> removed?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>> Stephen Saw
>>>
>>
>
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Old 02-21-2008   #6 (permalink)
Stephen Saw


 
 

Re: Vista Service Pack 1 Experience

Hi,

So thats mean if I just have to wait until Microsoft to put back the Index
back? Btw, is it legal to slipstream SP1 into the original retail
installation DVD?

Thanks and Regards,
Stephen Saw
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 02-21-2008   #7 (permalink)
Peter


 
 

Re: Vista Service Pack 1 Experience

"Stephen Saw" <StephenSaw@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:12EDA9E3-6E2B-430E-8DCA-ABB15F46BD45@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi,
>
> So thats mean if I just have to wait until Microsoft to put back the Index
> back? Btw, is it legal to slipstream SP1 into the original retail
> installation DVD?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> Stephen Saw
It would be legal if it were possible but it isn't. The Vista DVD isn't
constructed the same way as previous OS's.

--
Peter
Toronto, Canada
XP Pro SP2/SP3 Beta/Vista Ultimate SP1 Beta
Triple Boot

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Old 02-23-2008   #8 (permalink)
Wolfgang Sirges


 
 

Re: Vista Service Pack 1 Experience

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:44:58 -0000, "John Barnett MVP"
<freelance@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>It appears Mark that Microsoft have made it more difficult to slipstream SP1
>to Vista than previous versions of Windows. I know when I saw the
>instructions for slipstreaming my first thought was 'this will certainly put
>people off' it is a hell of a lot of work.
Can you give me a link to the article? I'm just curious...

Thanks, Wolfgang.
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Please remove the "nospam_" part of the address. Thanks.
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Old 02-25-2008   #9 (permalink)
Brian W


 
 

Re: Vista Service Pack 1 Experience


"John Barnett MVP" <freelance@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:486DC459-77D4-49F2-915B-1E60D89CE700@xxxxxx
Quote:

> It appears Mark that Microsoft have made it more difficult to slipstream
> SP1 to Vista than previous versions of Windows. I know when I saw the
> instructions for slipstreaming my first thought was 'this will certainly
> put people off' it is a hell of a lot of work.
Easiest way will be to buy an SP1 Anytime Upgrade DVD for a few
dollars/pounds/Euros, once the discs are available. These discs are
identical to Retail/generic OEM media.
Any idea when this will be by the way? Presumably once new PCs have SP1
pre- installed, as it's not possible to upgrade to a non-SP1 version if SP1
is installed?
Quote:

>
> --
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
> for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
> of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
> this mail/post..
>
> "Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@xxxxxx> wrote in
> message news:A2B19C68-DBE1-4526-963E-1A3CCBB3A278@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> For XP it was built-in to the Service Pack download (/integrate switch).
>> I didn't know that had changed. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Was this helpful? Then click the "Yes" Ratings button. Voting helps the
>> web
>> interface.
>> http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales....htm#RateAPost
>>
>> Mark L. Ferguson
>>
>> .
>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:1FC740BD-34C5-4083-8392-7828F3129614@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Problem is, Mark, slipstreaming SP1 to Vista isn't an easy task,
>>> especially for the less knowledgeable user. I agree it can be done but,
>>> as far as I know, the only method currently available is physically
>>> installing another copy of Vista onto a separate partition, integrating
>>> SP1 then converting to ISO before burning to DVD. None of the current
>>> slipstreaming software, again as far as I know, can cope with
>>> slipstreaming Vista.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> John Barnett MVP
>>> Associate Expert
>>> Windows Desktop Experience
>>>
>>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>>
>>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of
>>> any kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the
>>> accuracy, reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not
>>> be liable for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages
>>> arising out of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions
>>> expressed in this mail/post..
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@xxxxxx> wrote in
>>> message news:0043D086-A157-4600-B2B5-9C3276F8E2D2@xxxxxx
>>>> If you slipstream the Service Pack onto the original disk, you get the
>>>> Index (usually set in a .INF by the OEM manufacturer)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Was this helpful? Then click the "Yes" Ratings button. Voting helps the
>>>> web
>>>> interface.
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales....htm#RateAPost
>>>>
>>>> Mark L. Ferguson
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>> "Stephen Saw" <StephenSaw@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:0E8B4A5B-72CB-417E-AA7C-3E4678C5EB54@xxxxxx
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> After installed Vista Service Pack 1 on my machine, the Windows
>>>>> Experience
>>>>> Index that let us rate our system did not appear on the place where it
>>>>> should
>>>>> be, is that in SP1 it has been moved to other location or just simply
>>>>> removed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>>> Stephen Saw
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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