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| | Vista Performance I have to purchase a new desktop and Dell will only honor their sale prices if Vista is installed (in other words, they'll give me XP, but they'll charge me more). I need to know if Vista is a stable OS -- or if it would be worth it to pay more for XP to be included. Also, is there anything in particular I need to know about the differences between Vista and XP? For example, I've gotten into the habit of using Windows Explorer as my primary way to navigate around my computer and keep things organized, and the loss of that would cripple me. Does it work the same in Vista? Thanks in advance. Perri |
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| | Re: Vista Performance "PMorgan" <pmorgan.nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:Xns9A4D5D85A9549pmorganncrrcom@xxxxxx Quote: >I have to purchase a new desktop and Dell will only honor their sale prices > if Vista is installed (in other words, they'll give me XP, but they'll > charge me more). > > I need to know if Vista is a stable OS -- or if it would be worth it to > pay > more for XP to be included. Also, is there anything in particular I need > to know about the differences between Vista and XP? For example, I've > gotten into the habit of using Windows Explorer as my primary way to > navigate around my computer and keep things organized, and the loss of > that > would cripple me. Does it work the same in Vista? post. Basically, the new WE has a nice Address Bar design at the top of the window that makes general navigation easy. But if you do a lot of file copying/moving like I do...you'll probably get very upset about the way the Navigation Pane (the left pane) only has links to certain folders (Documents, Pictures, Music, Recently Changed, Searches, and Public) visible as links. If there is a way to make the Navigation Pane show the entire folder tree like in previous iterations, I can't seem to find it. As it is, I'm getting close to reverting back to XP, which sucks because there are definitely a few things added/changed in Vista that I'm finding very useful and good to have. Just curious, but how much of a price difference would you be paying if you have them install XP for you? If the price change is more than you would have to pay for XP, you might be better off letting them put Vista on it, then replace it with a self-purchased copy of XP after you receive the machine. |
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| | Re: Vista Performance "Jughead" <whatsit@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:j4GdncvJS8F7tl3anZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: > "PMorgan" <pmorgan.nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:Xns9A4D5D85A9549pmorganncrrcom@xxxxxx Quote: >>I have to purchase a new desktop and Dell will only honor their sale >>prices >> if Vista is installed (in other words, they'll give me XP, but they'll >> charge me more). >> >> I need to know if Vista is a stable OS -- or if it would be worth it to >> pay >> more for XP to be included. Also, is there anything in particular I need >> to know about the differences between Vista and XP? For example, I've >> gotten into the habit of using Windows Explorer as my primary way to >> navigate around my computer and keep things organized, and the loss of >> that >> would cripple me. Does it work the same in Vista? > It works quite a bit different in Windows Explorer. See my other recent > post. Basically, the new WE has a nice Address Bar design at the top of > the window that makes general navigation easy. But if you do a lot of file > copying/moving like I do...you'll probably get very upset about the way > the Navigation Pane (the left pane) only has links to certain folders > (Documents, Pictures, Music, Recently Changed, Searches, and Public) > visible as links. If there is a way to make the Navigation Pane show the > entire folder tree like in previous iterations, I can't seem to find it. > As it is, I'm getting close to reverting back to XP, which sucks because > there are definitely a few things added/changed in Vista that I'm finding > very useful and good to have. In the bottom of the left pane do you see a bar that says Folders with a little caret ( ^ or up arrow ) on the right hand side? Click on the up arrow or just drag the bar to the top of the pane. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ |
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| | Re: Vista Performance "Jughead" <whatsit@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:j4GdncvJS8F7tl3anZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: > "PMorgan" <pmorgan.nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:Xns9A4D5D85A9549pmorganncrrcom@xxxxxx Quote: >>I have to purchase a new desktop and Dell will only honor their sale >>prices >> if Vista is installed (in other words, they'll give me XP, but >> they'll >> charge me more). >> >> I need to know if Vista is a stable OS -- or if it would be worth it >> to pay >> more for XP to be included. Also, is there anything in particular I >> need >> to know about the differences between Vista and XP? For example, >> I've >> gotten into the habit of using Windows Explorer as my primary way to >> navigate around my computer and keep things organized, and the loss >> of that >> would cripple me. Does it work the same in Vista? > It works quite a bit different in Windows Explorer. See my other > recent post. Basically, the new WE has a nice Address Bar design at > the top of the window that makes general navigation easy. But if you > do a lot of file copying/moving like I do...you'll probably get very > upset about the way the Navigation Pane (the left pane) only has links > to certain folders (Documents, Pictures, Music, Recently Changed, > Searches, and Public) visible as links. If there is a way to make the > Navigation Pane show the entire folder tree like in previous > iterations, I can't seem to find it. As it is, I'm getting close to > reverting back to XP, which sucks because there are definitely a few > things added/changed in Vista that I'm finding very useful and good to > have. > desktop shortcut with the target %SystemRoot%\explorer.exe /n,/e,C:\ do for you ? Tom |
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| | Re: Vista Performance On 23 Feb 2008 14:11:29 GMT, PMorgan <pmorgan.nospam@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > I have to purchase a new desktop and Dell will only honor their sale prices > if Vista is installed (in other words, they'll give me XP, but they'll > charge me more). > > I need to know if Vista is a stable OS I've been running Vista here since RTM in November of 2006. It has been absolutely stable. It hasn't crashed once, and I've had no problems at all with it. Quote: > -- or if it would be worth it to pay > more for XP to be included. I certainly wouldn't. Although I don't think that everyone should rush out to upgrade to Vista, I think using XP on a new computer makes no sense at all. XP is on its way out. As newer software and newer hardware devices come out, you will find that some of it won't work on XP. If you get XP now, you will likely find yourself upgrading to Vista anyway at some time in the future. Make sure you get an adequate hardware configuration. In particular, don't get less than 2GB of RAM. Quote: > Also, is there anything in particular I need > to know about the differences between Vista and XP? For example, I've > gotten into the habit of using Windows Explorer as my primary way to > navigate around my computer and keep things organized, and the loss of that > would cripple me. Does it work the same in Vista? It's essentially the same, but there are always differences in the details. You may find that it takes some time to get accustomed to some of those differences, and it can be frustrating at first, but most people manage to learn what's new fairly quickly. I did. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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| | Re: Vista Performance "Jughead" <whatsit@xxxxxx> wrote in news:j4GdncvJS8F7tl3anZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@xxxxxx: Quote: > "PMorgan" <pmorgan.nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:Xns9A4D5D85A9549pmorganncrrcom@xxxxxx Quote: >>I have to purchase a new desktop and Dell will only honor their sale >>prices >> if Vista is installed (in other words, they'll give me XP, but >> they'll charge me more). > Just curious, but how much of a price difference would you be paying > if you have them install XP for you? If the price change is more than > you would have to pay for XP, you might be better off letting them put > Vista on it, then replace it with a self-purchased copy of XP after > you receive the machine. don't think I care what the price difference is. I use Explorer much like you do, and if they don't show the parent folder and everything under it, I'm sunk. How can you FIND things? Also used to dragging, the cut-and- paste sounds torturous. I have the XP disks that were used for my current computer -- perhaps I'll look into how difficult it is to reinstall it. Dell insists on loading a bunch of garbage onto the computer whether you want it or not, so I don't think I can avoid either having them load Vista or paying additional for XP, which I've already purchased twice. Thanks for your comments. |
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| | Re: Vista Performance "Vern Linard" <VernLinard@xxxxxx> wrote in news:47c02f1e$1@xxxxxx-privat.org: Quote: > Dell is total crap if they are saying that > > XP and Vista preinstalled cost about the same.. Quote: > Now listen... beat the system and buy Vista ultimate, and then normaly > you are entitled to a free copy of XP PRO as DOWNGRADE RIGHTS, ask and > insist DELL to tell you if or not you are entitled to this from them. |
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| | Re: Vista Performance "PMorgan" <pmorgan.nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:Xns9A4E53A01A96Dpmorganncrrcom@xxxxxx Quote: > "Jughead" <whatsit@xxxxxx> wrote in > news:j4GdncvJS8F7tl3anZ2dnUVZ_ommnZ2d@xxxxxx: > Quote: >> "PMorgan" <pmorgan.nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:Xns9A4D5D85A9549pmorganncrrcom@xxxxxx Quote: >>>I have to purchase a new desktop and Dell will only honor their sale >>>prices >>> if Vista is installed (in other words, they'll give me XP, but >>> they'll charge me more). >> Just curious, but how much of a price difference would you be paying >> if you have them install XP for you? If the price change is more than >> you would have to pay for XP, you might be better off letting them put >> Vista on it, then replace it with a self-purchased copy of XP after >> you receive the machine. > I've just been reading the postings about Explorer and at this point, I > don't think I care what the price difference is. I use Explorer much like > you do, and if they don't show the parent folder and everything under it, > I'm sunk. How can you FIND things? Also used to dragging, the cut-and- > paste sounds torturous. > > I have the XP disks that were used for my current computer -- perhaps I'll > look into how difficult it is to reinstall it. Dell insists on loading a > bunch of garbage onto the computer whether you want it or not, so I don't > think I can avoid either having them load Vista or paying additional for > XP, which I've already purchased twice. > If you haven't used Vista then please ignore Jughead's post and try it for yourself. The folder tree is there. The fact that Jughead didn't know that only points out their inexperience. I spend a lot of time copying files between servers and workstations. The UI is slightly different from previous versions of explorer but once learned I find it more powerful. The breadcrumbs feature in particular saves me considerable time scrolling up and down large directory trees. The context sensitive icons on the tasks toolbar are great. The stacked view is a great way to view directories with many files. Overall it is an improvement, but it is different and you have to learn how to use it. -- Kerry Brown Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/ |
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