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| | Simple Question I have a Gateway media center computer that came preloaded with Vista. Well a lot of my software doesnt work with Vista, Im still using DOS programs. Anyway my old computer has XP on it. Can I stick the hard drive from it into the new machine and create a dual boot system?? Pat |
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| | Re: Simple Question No, it isn't quite that easy. Not only is it quite likely your old hard drive won't work in your new system, Vista won't let you boot from it anyway. -- Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] rgharper@xxxxxx * NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/ * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups * The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/ "Pat" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23tTjHYmdIHA.3444@xxxxxx Quote: >I have a Gateway media center computer that came preloaded with Vista. Well >a lot of my software doesnt work with Vista, Im still using DOS programs. >Anyway my old computer has XP on it. Can I stick the hard drive from it >into the new machine and create a dual boot system?? > > Pat |
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| | Re: Simple Question "Gordon" <gbplinux@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:fpq4pd$mnq$1@xxxxxx Quote: > "Pat" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:%23tTjHYmdIHA.3444@xxxxxx Quote: >>I have a Gateway media center computer that came preloaded with Vista. >>Well a lot of my software doesnt work with Vista, > And did you RESEARCH that, before you bought your new computer? |
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| | Re: Simple Question Pat wrote: Quote: > I have a Gateway media center computer that came preloaded with Vista. > Well a lot of my software doesnt work with Vista, Im still using DOS > programs. Anyway my old computer has XP on it. Can I stick the hard drive > from it into the new machine and create a dual boot system?? was installed on completely different hardware. If you move the hard drive into another computer, at the very least you would need to do a Repair Install of XP - which doesn't always work, necessitating a full Clean Install. And it is much tricksier to install XP after Vista because the normal way to set up dual (or multiple) boots is to install the older operating system first. There are also issues with XP wiping out Vista's System Restore points if you don't use a third-party bootloader to hide the operating systems from each other. Then there is the issue of whether there are drivers for XP for your new Gateway. You'd need to go to Gateway's website for your specific model machine and see if they offer XP drivers. If they don't, you probably can't install XP because Gateway may use proprietary hardware; most OEMs do. A much easier and better solution is to use virtual computing and create a virtual machine running XP, with Vista as the host operating system. Of course, you need a license for XP and if the old machine had an OEM license you'd need to buy a new one. Microsoft's Virtual PC 2007 is free. VMware Workstation is not free, but I prefer it. Because the hardware is virtualized, it doesn't matter whether Gateway has XP drivers. If you want to try it your way and Gateway does have XP drivers for your machine, here are links to help: Dual Booting Windows Vista & Windows XP - http://bertk.mvps.org/html/dualboot.html Install Windows XP On A Machine Already Running Windows Vista (MVP John Barnett) - http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install...ning_vista.htm http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm - Repair Install How-To http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html - Clean Install How-To http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...alling_Windows - What you will need on-hand In the end, the simplest solution might be to 1) see if Gateway will give you downgrade rights to XP and provide a recovery disk for it if that machine can run XP; or 2) return the Vista machine and purchase one running the operating system you need. You can still buy computers with XP preinstalled. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! |
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| | Re: Simple Question Thanks Malke, Really helpful answer. Ill do a little more research and see if I can figure somthing out. Pat "Malke" <malke@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O%23fhhsmdIHA.5984@xxxxxx Quote: > Pat wrote: > Quote: >> I have a Gateway media center computer that came preloaded with Vista. >> Well a lot of my software doesnt work with Vista, Im still using DOS >> programs. Anyway my old computer has XP on it. Can I stick the hard drive >> from it into the new machine and create a dual boot system?? > It's a simple question but not a simple answer. The problem is that your > XP > was installed on completely different hardware. If you move the hard drive > into another computer, at the very least you would need to do a Repair > Install of XP - which doesn't always work, necessitating a full Clean > Install. And it is much tricksier to install XP after Vista because the > normal way to set up dual (or multiple) boots is to install the older > operating system first. There are also issues with XP wiping out Vista's > System Restore points if you don't use a third-party bootloader to hide > the > operating systems from each other. > > Then there is the issue of whether there are drivers for XP for your new > Gateway. You'd need to go to Gateway's website for your specific model > machine and see if they offer XP drivers. If they don't, you probably > can't > install XP because Gateway may use proprietary hardware; most OEMs do. > > A much easier and better solution is to use virtual computing and create a > virtual machine running XP, with Vista as the host operating system. Of > course, you need a license for XP and if the old machine had an OEM > license > you'd need to buy a new one. Microsoft's Virtual PC 2007 is free. VMware > Workstation is not free, but I prefer it. Because the hardware is > virtualized, it doesn't matter whether Gateway has XP drivers. > > If you want to try it your way and Gateway does have XP drivers for your > machine, here are links to help: > > Dual Booting Windows Vista & Windows XP - > http://bertk.mvps.org/html/dualboot.html > > Install Windows XP On A Machine Already Running Windows Vista (MVP John > Barnett) - > http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install...ning_vista.htm > > http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm - Repair Install > How-To > http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html - Clean Install How-To > http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...alling_Windows - What > you will need on-hand > > In the end, the simplest solution might be to 1) see if Gateway will give > you downgrade rights to XP and provide a recovery disk for it if that > machine can run XP; or 2) return the Vista machine and purchase one > running > the operating system you need. You can still buy computers with XP > preinstalled. > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers > www.elephantboycomputers.com > Don't Panic! |
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| | Re: Simple Question "Malke" <malke@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O%23fhhsmdIHA.5984@xxxxxx Quote: > Pat wrote: > > <snip> > A much easier and better solution is to use virtual computing and create a > virtual machine running XP, with Vista as the host operating system. Of > course, you need a license for XP and if the old machine had an OEM > license > you'd need to buy a new one. Microsoft's Virtual PC 2007 is free. VMware > Workstation is not free, but I prefer it. Because the hardware is > virtualized, it doesn't matter whether Gateway has XP drivers. > > Malke > -- > MS-MVP > Elephant Boy Computers > www.elephantboycomputers.com > Don't Panic! 2007 in a Vista Home Premium system, he will get an error message saying that Virtual PC 2007 will not work with Vista Home Premium. |
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| | Re: Simple Question "Gunner" <invalid@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23YKyw5mdIHA.4164@xxxxxx Quote: > > "Malke" <malke@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:O%23fhhsmdIHA.5984@xxxxxx Quote: >> Pat wrote: >> >> <snip> >> A much easier and better solution is to use virtual computing and create >> a >> virtual machine running XP, with Vista as the host operating system. Of >> course, you need a license for XP and if the old machine had an OEM >> license >> you'd need to buy a new one. Microsoft's Virtual PC 2007 is free. VMware >> Workstation is not free, but I prefer it. Because the hardware is >> virtualized, it doesn't matter whether Gateway has XP drivers. >> >> Malke >> -- >> MS-MVP >> Elephant Boy Computers >> www.elephantboycomputers.com >> Don't Panic! > That also depends on the Vista version. If he tries to install MS Virtual > PC 2007 in a Vista Home Premium system, he will get an error message > saying that Virtual PC 2007 will not work with Vista Home Premium. running with no probs at all. |
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| | Re: Simple Question Gunner wrote: Quote: > That also depends on the Vista version. If he tries to install MS Virtual > PC 2007 in a Vista Home Premium system, he will get an error message > saying that Virtual PC 2007 will not work with Vista Home Premium. PC 2007 on Vista Home. It worked anyway; it was just the EULA. And VMware never had the restriction. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers www.elephantboycomputers.com Don't Panic! |
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| | Re: Simple Question "Gordon" <gbplinux@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eV18qHtdIHA.1824@xxxxxx Quote: > "Arfur Million" <arfur_million@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:hR0wj.3569$St5.579@xxxxxx-gui.ntli.net... Quote: >> "Gordon" <gbplinux@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:fpq4pd$mnq$1@xxxxxx Quote: >>> "Pat" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:%23tTjHYmdIHA.3444@xxxxxx >>>>I have a Gateway media center computer that came preloaded with Vista. >>>>Well a lot of my software doesnt work with Vista, >>> >>> And did you RESEARCH that, before you bought your new computer? >> And how does that help ANSWER the OP's question? >> > > It doesn't, but surely that would have been COMMON SENSE? be backward compatible, but that's bye the bye. You may have had a point if the OP had been complaining about, rather than merely stating, the incompatibility or if you'd actually tried to answer the question. As it was, you just came over as being rude and unhelpful, which I'm sure wasn't your intention. Regards, Arfur |
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