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| | A really strange question about Customer Preview Program When the Vista Beta 2 was released to the public, I paid about US$20 for the Beta 2 and RC1 (I live in Europe; that is why it is so high). But in the meanwhile I became a Beta tester for Windows Vista (a connect user). So is it somehow possible not to receive RC1 although I paid for it. I don't care about losing 20$. The primary reason is additional expenses. For the Beta 2 I paid additional US $70 for tax and stuff like that when I received the discs. So can anyone help me? I don't know who to contact about this strange request. Thanks |
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| | Re: A really strange question about Customer Preview Program I sure don't understand this Mr. or Ms. Mishad 1) You're a TBT and there are 66 million messages to you on Connect and in the groups as to which alias to contact and you have a house mommy who is all over the newsgroups who monitors that alias. Email your house mommy and tell her you want to change your order. 2) If you're a Vista BT you should be savvy enough to drop the stupid completely screwed up html web interface for these groups maintained by the most eggregiously lazy bottom feeders known to man at MSFT and just open Win Mail and click MSFT Help Groups and avoid the duplicate post bug they are too dumb to fix for years. CH "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:A910A5A1-1018-4B79-B750-C4F926821EA4@microsoft.com... > When the Vista Beta 2 was released to the public, I paid about US$20 for > the > Beta 2 and RC1 (I live in Europe; that is why it is so high). But in the > meanwhile I became a Beta tester for Windows Vista (a connect user). So is > it > somehow possible not to receive RC1 although I paid for it. I don't care > about losing 20$. The primary reason is additional expenses. For the Beta > 2 I > paid additional US $70 for tax and stuff like that when I received the > discs. > > So can anyone help me? I don't know who to contact about this strange > request. > > Thanks > |
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| | Re: A really strange question about Customer Preview Program No, not like that. I am talking about physical DVDs. I paid 20$ for them on CPP. Then I became beta tester. Then I got those DVDs and had to pay extra 70$ for tax. 90$ in total!!! And since RC1 is on the way, I don't want another 70$ wasted. So how can I tell Microsoft not to send RC1 DVDs to me?? "Chad Harris" wrote: > I sure don't understand this Mr. or Ms. Mishad > > 1) You're a TBT and there are 66 million messages to you on Connect and in > the groups as to which alias to contact and you have a house mommy who is > all over the newsgroups who monitors that alias. Email your house mommy and > tell her you want to change your order. > > 2) If you're a Vista BT you should be savvy enough to drop the stupid > completely screwed up html web interface for these groups maintained by the > most eggregiously lazy bottom feeders known to man at MSFT and just open Win > Mail and click MSFT Help Groups and avoid the duplicate post bug they are > too dumb to fix for years. > > CH > > "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:A910A5A1-1018-4B79-B750-C4F926821EA4@microsoft.com... > > When the Vista Beta 2 was released to the public, I paid about US$20 for > > the > > Beta 2 and RC1 (I live in Europe; that is why it is so high). But in the > > meanwhile I became a Beta tester for Windows Vista (a connect user). So is > > it > > somehow possible not to receive RC1 although I paid for it. I don't care > > about losing 20$. The primary reason is additional expenses. For the Beta > > 2 I > > paid additional US $70 for tax and stuff like that when I received the > > discs. > > > > So can anyone help me? I don't know who to contact about this strange > > request. > > > > Thanks > > > > > |
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| | Re: A really strange question about Customer Preview Program Are you sure that you have access to the Vista Beta program on Connect? Did you receive an invitation? Just signing up at Connect does not give access to the Vista Beta program. -- Jane, not plain 64bit enabled ![]() Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ![]() "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B2035F50-837E-49C6-89D2-E68C6ADEAA1C@microsoft.com... > No, not like that. I am talking about physical DVDs. I paid 20$ for them > on > CPP. Then I became beta tester. Then I got those DVDs and had to pay extra > 70$ for tax. 90$ in total!!! And since RC1 is on the way, I don't want > another 70$ wasted. So how can I tell Microsoft not to send RC1 DVDs to > me?? > > "Chad Harris" wrote: > >> I sure don't understand this Mr. or Ms. Mishad >> >> 1) You're a TBT and there are 66 million messages to you on Connect and >> in >> the groups as to which alias to contact and you have a house mommy who is >> all over the newsgroups who monitors that alias. Email your house mommy >> and >> tell her you want to change your order. >> >> 2) If you're a Vista BT you should be savvy enough to drop the stupid >> completely screwed up html web interface for these groups maintained by >> the >> most eggregiously lazy bottom feeders known to man at MSFT and just open >> Win >> Mail and click MSFT Help Groups and avoid the duplicate post bug they are >> too dumb to fix for years. >> >> CH >> >> "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:A910A5A1-1018-4B79-B750-C4F926821EA4@microsoft.com... >> > When the Vista Beta 2 was released to the public, I paid about US$20 >> > for >> > the >> > Beta 2 and RC1 (I live in Europe; that is why it is so high). But in >> > the >> > meanwhile I became a Beta tester for Windows Vista (a connect user). So >> > is >> > it >> > somehow possible not to receive RC1 although I paid for it. I don't >> > care >> > about losing 20$. The primary reason is additional expenses. For the >> > Beta >> > 2 I >> > paid additional US $70 for tax and stuff like that when I received the >> > discs. >> > >> > So can anyone help me? I don't know who to contact about this strange >> > request. >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> >> >> |
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| | Re: A really strange question about Customer Preview Program Mishad-- 1) You can activate the Beta Vista by calling MSFT. I would see if they will help you. Give that a shot. 2) It's my understanding that the House Mommy on the TBT that frequently pops up on the Vista Beta groups tries to cater to the TBTs to some extent. That's a significant amount of money. I'm sure that if you email her at the alias you were given, she can forward your request to stop the order to the appropriate place. Give it a shot. 3) Here are number that can sometimes be helpful in straightening out orders from MSFT at Redmond. I have no idea who handles those--often a company called One Plus handles MSFT mailings but there are a number of them: Monday through Friday, between 8 a.m. and 10 p.m. ET toll-free in the United States and Canada. 1) 1-800-630-6740 2) 1-800 360-7561 Good luck. You should have enough time to stop your order because the RC1 CPP (lol whatever branch of a branch they make it in the stuff they're throwing together to shove out the door with a Windows logo on it) is not going to happen within hours or a day. Best of luck, CH "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B2035F50-837E-49C6-89D2-E68C6ADEAA1C@microsoft.com... > No, not like that. I am talking about physical DVDs. I paid 20$ for them > on > CPP. Then I became beta tester. Then I got those DVDs and had to pay extra > 70$ for tax. 90$ in total!!! And since RC1 is on the way, I don't want > another 70$ wasted. So how can I tell Microsoft not to send RC1 DVDs to > me?? > > "Chad Harris" wrote: > >> I sure don't understand this Mr. or Ms. Mishad >> >> 1) You're a TBT and there are 66 million messages to you on Connect and >> in >> the groups as to which alias to contact and you have a house mommy who is >> all over the newsgroups who monitors that alias. Email your house mommy >> and >> tell her you want to change your order. >> >> 2) If you're a Vista BT you should be savvy enough to drop the stupid >> completely screwed up html web interface for these groups maintained by >> the >> most eggregiously lazy bottom feeders known to man at MSFT and just open >> Win >> Mail and click MSFT Help Groups and avoid the duplicate post bug they are >> too dumb to fix for years. >> >> CH >> >> "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:A910A5A1-1018-4B79-B750-C4F926821EA4@microsoft.com... >> > When the Vista Beta 2 was released to the public, I paid about US$20 >> > for >> > the >> > Beta 2 and RC1 (I live in Europe; that is why it is so high). But in >> > the >> > meanwhile I became a Beta tester for Windows Vista (a connect user). So >> > is >> > it >> > somehow possible not to receive RC1 although I paid for it. I don't >> > care >> > about losing 20$. The primary reason is additional expenses. For the >> > Beta >> > 2 I >> > paid additional US $70 for tax and stuff like that when I received the >> > discs. >> > >> > So can anyone help me? I don't know who to contact about this strange >> > request. >> > >> > Thanks >> > >> >> >> |
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| | Re: A really strange question about Customer Preview Program They've added people for all kinds of reasons during the course of several months since Beta 1 started. There were softies posting on their blogs to add people. They've added people for MCE testing reasons months after the TBT for Vista and Longhorn server started from different countries and solicited for it. But I have a hard time telling what OPs mean much of the time. When an invite or an email comes from that Beta the alias for questions is on every one of them. CH "Jane C" <jellybean@NOSPAMxjgarage.org> wrote in message news:2F063FC1-7181-44BC-B9F5-F6032056F2E6@microsoft.com... > Are you sure that you have access to the Vista Beta program on Connect? > Did you receive an invitation? > > Just signing up at Connect does not give access to the Vista Beta program. > > -- > Jane, not plain 64bit enabled ![]() > Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ![]() > "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:B2035F50-837E-49C6-89D2-E68C6ADEAA1C@microsoft.com... >> No, not like that. I am talking about physical DVDs. I paid 20$ for them >> on >> CPP. Then I became beta tester. Then I got those DVDs and had to pay >> extra >> 70$ for tax. 90$ in total!!! And since RC1 is on the way, I don't want >> another 70$ wasted. So how can I tell Microsoft not to send RC1 DVDs to >> me?? >> >> "Chad Harris" wrote: >> >>> I sure don't understand this Mr. or Ms. Mishad >>> >>> 1) You're a TBT and there are 66 million messages to you on Connect and >>> in >>> the groups as to which alias to contact and you have a house mommy who >>> is >>> all over the newsgroups who monitors that alias. Email your house mommy >>> and >>> tell her you want to change your order. >>> >>> 2) If you're a Vista BT you should be savvy enough to drop the stupid >>> completely screwed up html web interface for these groups maintained by >>> the >>> most eggregiously lazy bottom feeders known to man at MSFT and just open >>> Win >>> Mail and click MSFT Help Groups and avoid the duplicate post bug they >>> are >>> too dumb to fix for years. >>> >>> CH >>> >>> "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:A910A5A1-1018-4B79-B750-C4F926821EA4@microsoft.com... >>> > When the Vista Beta 2 was released to the public, I paid about US$20 >>> > for >>> > the >>> > Beta 2 and RC1 (I live in Europe; that is why it is so high). But in >>> > the >>> > meanwhile I became a Beta tester for Windows Vista (a connect user). >>> > So is >>> > it >>> > somehow possible not to receive RC1 although I paid for it. I don't >>> > care >>> > about losing 20$. The primary reason is additional expenses. For the >>> > Beta >>> > 2 I >>> > paid additional US $70 for tax and stuff like that when I received the >>> > discs. >>> > >>> > So can anyone help me? I don't know who to contact about this strange >>> > request. >>> > >>> > Thanks >>> > >>> >>> >>> > |
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| | RE: A really strange question about Customer Preview Program May I ask how you got in the Vista beta on connect after the Beta 2 was released? What exactly did you have to do? -- Robert Firth http://www.winvistainfo.org "Mishad7" wrote: > When the Vista Beta 2 was released to the public, I paid about US$20 for the > Beta 2 and RC1 (I live in Europe; that is why it is so high). But in the > meanwhile I became a Beta tester for Windows Vista (a connect user). So is it > somehow possible not to receive RC1 although I paid for it. I don't care > about losing 20$. The primary reason is additional expenses. For the Beta 2 I > paid additional US $70 for tax and stuff like that when I received the discs. > > So can anyone help me? I don't know who to contact about this strange request. > > Thanks > |
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| | Re: A really strange question about Customer Preview Program I was added for a second time just a couple of months ago in a special program. Currently there are 28k plus registered TB testers. Obviously, it could include dups, but I assume MS knows how to filter. The 28k has nothing to do with the numbers active testers, of course. Those numbers vary widely from release to release as some testers reach the ends of their scopes of interest and other testers become more active. Media Center has seen a lot of variation due to problems in some builds in even getting MC up and running. Drivers for things like tuner cards have been the biggest pain point. There now seems to be quite a lot of interest building in MC as the thing comes together. Probably Longhorn Server (aka Windows Server 2007/8) has the most dedicated testers. "Chad Harris" <HQ@MSFTtindenialovervistamess.com> wrote in message news:eEP$HlnvGHA.560@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > They've added people for all kinds of reasons during the course of several > months since Beta 1 started. There were softies posting on their blogs to > add people. They've added people for MCE testing reasons months after the > TBT for Vista and Longhorn server started from different countries and > solicited for it. > > But I have a hard time telling what OPs mean much of the time. When an > invite or an email comes from that Beta the alias for questions is on > every one of them. > > CH > > > "Jane C" <jellybean@NOSPAMxjgarage.org> wrote in message > news:2F063FC1-7181-44BC-B9F5-F6032056F2E6@microsoft.com... >> Are you sure that you have access to the Vista Beta program on Connect? >> Did you receive an invitation? >> >> Just signing up at Connect does not give access to the Vista Beta >> program. >> >> -- >> Jane, not plain 64bit enabled ![]() >> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ![]() >> "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:B2035F50-837E-49C6-89D2-E68C6ADEAA1C@microsoft.com... >>> No, not like that. I am talking about physical DVDs. I paid 20$ for them >>> on >>> CPP. Then I became beta tester. Then I got those DVDs and had to pay >>> extra >>> 70$ for tax. 90$ in total!!! And since RC1 is on the way, I don't want >>> another 70$ wasted. So how can I tell Microsoft not to send RC1 DVDs to >>> me?? >>> >>> "Chad Harris" wrote: >>> >>>> I sure don't understand this Mr. or Ms. Mishad >>>> >>>> 1) You're a TBT and there are 66 million messages to you on Connect and >>>> in >>>> the groups as to which alias to contact and you have a house mommy who >>>> is >>>> all over the newsgroups who monitors that alias. Email your house >>>> mommy and >>>> tell her you want to change your order. >>>> >>>> 2) If you're a Vista BT you should be savvy enough to drop the stupid >>>> completely screwed up html web interface for these groups maintained by >>>> the >>>> most eggregiously lazy bottom feeders known to man at MSFT and just >>>> open Win >>>> Mail and click MSFT Help Groups and avoid the duplicate post bug they >>>> are >>>> too dumb to fix for years. >>>> >>>> CH >>>> >>>> "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>> news:A910A5A1-1018-4B79-B750-C4F926821EA4@microsoft.com... >>>> > When the Vista Beta 2 was released to the public, I paid about US$20 >>>> > for >>>> > the >>>> > Beta 2 and RC1 (I live in Europe; that is why it is so high). But in >>>> > the >>>> > meanwhile I became a Beta tester for Windows Vista (a connect user). >>>> > So is >>>> > it >>>> > somehow possible not to receive RC1 although I paid for it. I don't >>>> > care >>>> > about losing 20$. The primary reason is additional expenses. For the >>>> > Beta >>>> > 2 I >>>> > paid additional US $70 for tax and stuff like that when I received >>>> > the >>>> > discs. >>>> > >>>> > So can anyone help me? I don't know who to contact about this strange >>>> > request. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > > |
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| | Re: A really strange question about Customer Preview Program If you take that 28K number the percentage who participate in groups is very low. But of course, that doesn't necessarily correllate to their filing quality bugs, etc although I believe keeping up with all their activities might. There are probably a lot of ways people get added. I know that I've received invites to a slew of programs I don't have the remotest interest in, nor even the possible way to test that are for midlevel enterprise and while I know the names of a lot of those programs and the servers for that venue that's about all I know so why they put those on Connect I have no idea. If you sign in your dog to Connect, many of them apear. I'm especially appreciative of my invitation to Vista Italiano and the Italian groups since I speak about 10 words of Italian. These are the people running around like chickens with their heads cut off in concealed chaos who now know they can't possibly put out a decent OS on their current time table and have the best known author of their best known bookwith nearly a million copies pre-sold (Ed Bott) telling them that: "If management insists on hitting an arbitrary January ship date, the results will be disappointing at best, and potentially nightmarish" CH "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message news:upoOsEpvGHA.1512@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >I was added for a second time just a couple of months ago in a special >program. Currently there are 28k plus registered TB testers. Obviously, >it could include dups, but I assume MS knows how to filter. > > The 28k has nothing to do with the numbers active testers, of course. > Those numbers vary widely from release to release as some testers reach > the ends of their scopes of interest and other testers become more active. > Media Center has seen a lot of variation due to problems in some builds in > even getting MC up and running. Drivers for things like tuner cards have > been the biggest pain point. There now seems to be quite a lot of > interest building in MC as the thing comes together. > > Probably Longhorn Server (aka Windows Server 2007/8) has the most > dedicated testers. > > > "Chad Harris" <HQ@MSFTtindenialovervistamess.com> wrote in message > news:eEP$HlnvGHA.560@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> They've added people for all kinds of reasons during the course of >> several months since Beta 1 started. There were softies posting on their >> blogs to add people. They've added people for MCE testing reasons months >> after the TBT for Vista and Longhorn server started from different >> countries and solicited for it. >> >> But I have a hard time telling what OPs mean much of the time. When an >> invite or an email comes from that Beta the alias for questions is on >> every one of them. >> >> CH >> >> >> "Jane C" <jellybean@NOSPAMxjgarage.org> wrote in message >> news:2F063FC1-7181-44BC-B9F5-F6032056F2E6@microsoft.com... >>> Are you sure that you have access to the Vista Beta program on Connect? >>> Did you receive an invitation? >>> >>> Just signing up at Connect does not give access to the Vista Beta >>> program. >>> >>> -- >>> Jane, not plain 64bit enabled ![]() >>> Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ![]() >>> "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>> news:B2035F50-837E-49C6-89D2-E68C6ADEAA1C@microsoft.com... >>>> No, not like that. I am talking about physical DVDs. I paid 20$ for >>>> them on >>>> CPP. Then I became beta tester. Then I got those DVDs and had to pay >>>> extra >>>> 70$ for tax. 90$ in total!!! And since RC1 is on the way, I don't want >>>> another 70$ wasted. So how can I tell Microsoft not to send RC1 DVDs to >>>> me?? >>>> >>>> "Chad Harris" wrote: >>>> >>>>> I sure don't understand this Mr. or Ms. Mishad >>>>> >>>>> 1) You're a TBT and there are 66 million messages to you on Connect >>>>> and in >>>>> the groups as to which alias to contact and you have a house mommy who >>>>> is >>>>> all over the newsgroups who monitors that alias. Email your house >>>>> mommy and >>>>> tell her you want to change your order. >>>>> >>>>> 2) If you're a Vista BT you should be savvy enough to drop the stupid >>>>> completely screwed up html web interface for these groups maintained >>>>> by the >>>>> most eggregiously lazy bottom feeders known to man at MSFT and just >>>>> open Win >>>>> Mail and click MSFT Help Groups and avoid the duplicate post bug they >>>>> are >>>>> too dumb to fix for years. >>>>> >>>>> CH >>>>> >>>>> "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:A910A5A1-1018-4B79-B750-C4F926821EA4@microsoft.com... >>>>> > When the Vista Beta 2 was released to the public, I paid about US$20 >>>>> > for >>>>> > the >>>>> > Beta 2 and RC1 (I live in Europe; that is why it is so high). But in >>>>> > the >>>>> > meanwhile I became a Beta tester for Windows Vista (a connect user). >>>>> > So is >>>>> > it >>>>> > somehow possible not to receive RC1 although I paid for it. I don't >>>>> > care >>>>> > about losing 20$. The primary reason is additional expenses. For the >>>>> > Beta >>>>> > 2 I >>>>> > paid additional US $70 for tax and stuff like that when I received >>>>> > the >>>>> > discs. >>>>> > >>>>> > So can anyone help me? I don't know who to contact about this >>>>> > strange >>>>> > request. >>>>> > >>>>> > Thanks >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> > > |
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| | Re: A really strange question about Customer Preview Program Thanks, I'll try "Chad Harris" wrote: > Mishad-- > > 1) You can activate the Beta Vista by calling MSFT. I would see if they > will help you. Give that a shot. > 2) It's my understanding that the House Mommy on the TBT that frequently > pops up on the Vista Beta groups tries to cater to the TBTs to some extent. > That's a significant amount of money. I'm sure that if you email her at the > alias you were given, she can forward your request to stop the order to the > appropriate place. Give it a shot. > 3) Here are number that can sometimes be helpful in straightening out orders > from MSFT at Redmond. I have no idea who handles those--often a company > called One Plus handles MSFT mailings but there are a number of them: > > Monday through Friday, between 8 a.m. and 10 p.m. ET toll-free in the United > States and Canada. > > 1) 1-800-630-6740 > 2) 1-800 360-7561 > > Good luck. You should have enough time to stop your order because the RC1 > CPP (lol whatever branch of a branch they make it in the stuff they're > throwing together to shove out the door with a Windows logo on it) is not > going to happen within hours or a day. > > Best of luck, > > CH > > > "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:B2035F50-837E-49C6-89D2-E68C6ADEAA1C@microsoft.com... > > No, not like that. I am talking about physical DVDs. I paid 20$ for them > > on > > CPP. Then I became beta tester. Then I got those DVDs and had to pay extra > > 70$ for tax. 90$ in total!!! And since RC1 is on the way, I don't want > > another 70$ wasted. So how can I tell Microsoft not to send RC1 DVDs to > > me?? > > > > "Chad Harris" wrote: > > > >> I sure don't understand this Mr. or Ms. Mishad > >> > >> 1) You're a TBT and there are 66 million messages to you on Connect and > >> in > >> the groups as to which alias to contact and you have a house mommy who is > >> all over the newsgroups who monitors that alias. Email your house mommy > >> and > >> tell her you want to change your order. > >> > >> 2) If you're a Vista BT you should be savvy enough to drop the stupid > >> completely screwed up html web interface for these groups maintained by > >> the > >> most eggregiously lazy bottom feeders known to man at MSFT and just open > >> Win > >> Mail and click MSFT Help Groups and avoid the duplicate post bug they are > >> too dumb to fix for years. > >> > >> CH > >> > >> "Mishad7" <Mishad7@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > >> news:A910A5A1-1018-4B79-B750-C4F926821EA4@microsoft.com... > >> > When the Vista Beta 2 was released to the public, I paid about US$20 > >> > for > >> > the > >> > Beta 2 and RC1 (I live in Europe; that is why it is so high). But in > >> > the > >> > meanwhile I became a Beta tester for Windows Vista (a connect user). So > >> > is > >> > it > >> > somehow possible not to receive RC1 although I paid for it. I don't > >> > care > >> > about losing 20$. The primary reason is additional expenses. For the > >> > Beta > >> > 2 I > >> > paid additional US $70 for tax and stuff like that when I received the > >> > discs. > >> > > >> > So can anyone help me? I don't know who to contact about this strange > >> > request. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > |
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