Vista - Microsoft: Please fix Vista's flawed search or give rights to downgrade to XP Pro until it is fixed

Yes I always have that unchecked. I am not totally new at this. I only
offered my experience so that you could see that at least one system works as
it should. I don't know why you are having this problem.
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Paul


"Celegans" wrote:

"Celegans" <Celegans@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Just for giggles I renamed the .pas file to .vbs, and it found that one. I
also renamed the .r to .doc, and it failed to find that one! I was thinking
maybe it just searched registered file types, but not finding a .doc file
ruled that out. Unless it knew that it wasn't truly a Word document.

I have to agree with you, this is definitely a huge step backward from the
search in XP. I used the "find in files" feature a lot in XP, and it always
did what it said it would do.

"retroman" <retroman@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks, this does seem to work, although if I tell the search to look in all
locations, indexed or not, I'd like for it to search ALL files regardless of
extension.

Strangely, a .TXT file I copied to .DOC would not show up in the search, but
once I opened it in Word and saved it as a true Word document (same .DOC
extension), the search found it.

I took some screen shots.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3369/searchtho3.jpg
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Paul


"Celegans" wrote:

"retroman" <retroman@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:bfkbs3liv3ptnsfrs7g9us3v4pqb3d0tai@xxxxxxThis is an unworkable solution when working in a multiplatform environment.
The Sun Grid Engine, used to run hundreds of jobs on a Linux cluster, by
default names files to have extensions .1, .2, .3, .... I can have
thousands of new extensions to add.

I still have some files from PC Docs, an old PC Word document management
system, that named revisions of Word documents, .001, ..002, .003, .... So,
now I cannot search these Word documents until I manually add .001, .002,
..003, .... extensions. This is unworkable.

The fix has got to be by default to search all files, and not require anyone
to spend a lot of time figuring out that some extension is not being
searched.

The current Microsoft solution is unworkable for scientists and engineers.
Don't take away the search ability that was in Windows 95.

C.E.

I took some screen shots.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3369/searchtho3.jpg

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Paul


"Celegans" wrote:

"PaulB" <PaulB@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:80C4D80C-B375-4345-BBCE-4E4230699570@xxxxxxPaulB,

Thank your for your observations. I don't know why Vista search has never
worked for me. I wish I understood why it works for you.

I have used VMware virtual machines for Windows 95, 98, 2000 and XP, and
shown that Windows Explorer search works just find in all those versions of
Windows (XP, of course, needs a registry patch so its search always works).

I am tired of wasting time trying to get search to work in Vista. Finding
files one-by-one manually, or using other tools to find the files, then
having to use Windows Explorer to re-find the same file to work with the
file, is just nuts.

I have well over 500,000 files on my Vista machine, and many old files I've
saved for a reason I can no longer find with Vista. I want permission from
Microsoft to go back to Windows XP but they won't give that permission.

C.E.

"PaulB" <PaulB@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:<DF3CDAE4-C2EF-4CCB-A75C-A60081B22948@xxxxxx>...I believe you that search in Vista's is working for you.

But it's still not clear how I get search to work. We don't seem to have a
defined, repeatable procedure to get search to work in Vista?

As I copy new files to my machine, which are are not on the list of
searchable files because of their extension, I am supposed to figure out
that the extension is not on the "approved" list and then manually add it?
This is an insane solution that Microsoft is pushing on us: Figuring out
that a file is not being searched can be quite difficult. There should be
some sort of user interface option in Windows Explorer to show which files
are indexed/searchable and which are not so one could quickly learn that a
file cannot be found via search.

In many cases I do not believe indexing is the correct way to go. In recent
weeks, I submit multiple Sun Grid Engine cluster jobs to a linux cluster
that each return 10,000 files, which I occasionally need to search for
certain error messages. Transferring these files from Linux to Windows is
enough of a pain, but I then must index them before searching? This is a
terrible waste of resources to index these files that most of the time will
never need to be seached. But there still should be a way to do an ad hoc
search without indexing -- just like the search that has worked in Windows
since Windows 95.

C.E.

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:32:03 -0600, "Celegans" <Celegans@xxxxxx> wrote:
Your requirements go far beyond the needs of a typical user of Windows search. I
suggest that you look on the Web for specialized search software that can do what you
propose.
Well, I don't think that it is reasonable to expect Microsoft to slow down searching
and indexing for millions of users to accomodate the very few who have thousands of
unregistered file extensions. Surely yours is a very unusual situation.

Doug M. in NJ

"retroman" <retroman@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:s09es35uki477mrj337hkce51vmvkmovhj@xxxxxxHow do my requirements go beyond a typical user when Windows Explorer from
Windows 95 -- that is quite old -- solves the problem?

How can "advanced search" now only mean quick, approximate, partial, and
incomplete search? Vista's searches now are often not complete and are not
correct. Microsoft optimized search to give quick results but the partial
results often cannot be trusted. What good is Vista's search when you never
know what's missing in the results?
I don't want indexing at all for most of my files -- what of waste of CPU
and I/O resources most of the time. (Indexing E-mail would be OK). I just
want to be able to find my files via search like I have been able to in
Windows 95, 98, 2000 and XP. Why is it too much to ask for Vista's search
to be as good as Windows 95?

I bought Windows Vista ULTIMATE. It should work as well as Windows 95 in
any file search but does not.

Search was one of the features Microsoft hyped about Vista. Where was the
small print that said Vista's search only returned partial results?

Why can't Microsoft give me permission to downgrade to Windows XP to get a
search that still works, or be honest in its ads that search doesn't return
all results anymore?

C.E.