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What created the Vista problem in the first place?

  1. #1


    On the Bridge! Guest

    What created the Vista problem in the first place?

    Is there anyone delusional enough to still believe Vista is not a
    problematic product?
    I hope not.

    I think the reason why Vista is like it is (crap), is because of 3 things.

    1) lack of orginazation in Microsoft. Remember they started with a different
    plan making longhorn,
    then shifted course and started working on a different plan throwing much of
    the work they had done away.
    2) Lack of care and actually listening to the feedback and requests from the
    people.
    Everything about vista clearly shows that the developers ( I mainly mean the
    people in charge of the planing, not the simple code writers) closed their
    ears to what people wanted
    and went ahead and danced to their own drumbeat making so many mistakes its
    incredible.
    3) The final blow was the CLASH between the buisniness people and the
    develppers.
    The developers knew Vista was not ready, not only vista was not ready but
    the "partners" who created drivers didnt have the guidence from MS fast
    enough to create the "ecology" for a new strangely made OS like Vista.
    You can read exactly what I mean by the above "strangly made vista" here

    http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-988...=2547-1_3-0-20

    "Secondly, he said, major changes to the way Vista handles audio and video
    caused headaches, particularly for those upgrading from XP. Finally, he
    said, many Windows XP drivers didn't really work under Vista. "This is
    across the board for printers, scanners, wan, accessories (fingerprint
    readers, smartcards, tv tuners), and so on," Sinofsky wrote. "This category
    is due to the fact that many of the associated applets don't run within the
    constraints of the security model or the new video/audio driver models."




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    CHORUS:

    You just format the drive , Clive
    Get a New Mac , Jack
    Y'don't need that crap toy, Roy
    Just get yourself free
    Boot from a *nix, Jix
    You don't need to discuss much
    Install XP, Lee
    And get yourself free





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  3. #2


    LAB Enterprises Guest

    Re: What created the Vista problem in the first place?

    Call me delusional I guess, and happily so. I like Vista and have had
    no problems with it. If you let it run the way it is installed on decent
    hardware,
    there are no problems. If you start tinkering with it and install things
    that
    may not be compatible (without checking on how to install them in Vista - my
    Quickbooks 2005 works perfectly though I admit having to change a lot of
    file
    permissions and "run as administrator" to do so - steps I easily found by
    googling),
    you will have problems.

    Is Vista perfect? No, no windows os has ever been perfect (I've always been
    against how much hard drive space and ram it needs just to let you run other
    programs. My old Amiga was faster than windows 3.1 and it would run off a
    floppy disk!), but it isn't the end of the world, a conspiracy, or many of
    the
    other crazy things you and others have accused it of.

    We get the fact you don't like Vista - so go back to XP and the XP forums
    and leave those of us who are liking it and running it just fine be happy.

    Lori

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    "On the Bridge!" <On@xxxxxx,Bridge> wrote in message
    news:47c803e6$1@xxxxxx-privat.org...

    > Is there anyone delusional enough to still believe Vista is not a
    > problematic product?
    > I hope not.
    >
    > I think the reason why Vista is like it is (crap), is because of 3 things.
    >
    > 1) lack of orginazation in Microsoft. Remember they started with a
    > different plan making longhorn,
    > then shifted course and started working on a different plan throwing much
    > of the work they had done away.
    > 2) Lack of care and actually listening to the feedback and requests from
    > the people.
    > Everything about vista clearly shows that the developers ( I mainly mean
    > the people in charge of the planing, not the simple code writers) closed
    > their ears to what people wanted
    > and went ahead and danced to their own drumbeat making so many mistakes
    > its incredible.
    > 3) The final blow was the CLASH between the buisniness people and the
    > develppers.
    > The developers knew Vista was not ready, not only vista was not ready but
    > the "partners" who created drivers didnt have the guidence from MS fast
    > enough to create the "ecology" for a new strangely made OS like Vista.
    > You can read exactly what I mean by the above "strangly made vista" here
    >
    > http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-988...=2547-1_3-0-20
    >
    > "Secondly, he said, major changes to the way Vista handles audio and video
    > caused headaches, particularly for those upgrading from XP. Finally, he
    > said, many Windows XP drivers didn't really work under Vista. "This is
    > across the board for printers, scanners, wan, accessories (fingerprint
    > readers, smartcards, tv tuners), and so on," Sinofsky wrote. "This
    > category is due to the fact that many of the associated applets don't run
    > within the constraints of the security model or the new video/audio driver
    > models."
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    > What people are REALLY saying about Vista:
    > http://www.microsplot.com/news/2007/..._windows_vista
    >
    > 50 Ways to leave your Vista....
    >
    > CHORUS:
    >
    > You just format the drive , Clive
    > Get a New Mac , Jack
    > Y'don't need that crap toy, Roy
    > Just get yourself free
    > Boot from a *nix, Jix
    > You don't need to discuss much
    > Install XP, Lee
    > And get yourself free
    >
    >
    >
    >

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  4. #3


    Guest

    Re: What created the Vista problem in the first place?

    "On the Bridge!" wrote in message news:47c803e6$1@xxxxxx-privat.org...

    >
    > http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-988...=2547-1_3-0-20
    >
    > "Secondly, he said, major changes to the way Vista handles audio and video
    > caused headaches, particularly for those upgrading from XP. Finally, he
    > said, many Windows XP drivers didn't really work under Vista. "This is
    > across the board for printers, scanners, wan, accessories (fingerprint
    > readers, smartcards, tv tuners), and so on," Sinofsky wrote. "This
    > category is due to the fact that many of the associated applets don't run
    > within the constraints of the security model or the new video/audio driver
    > models."
    >
    >
    So, essentially, the complaint is that Vista really is what it was
    advertised to be... a *different* Windows, unlike XP and earlier versions,
    rebuilt from the kernel up. Of course, if XP drivers and software worked the
    same as it did in XP, then the complaint would have been that Vista is just
    another upgrade of the same old tired Windows OS. :-p



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  5. #4


    On the Bridge Guest

    Re: What created the Vista problem in the first place?

    I think that should have focus more on the things that matters most to the
    user
    better GUI, more user friendly functions, more options, easier, faster,
    better....

    Sure changing stuff around may be important and fun to the developers.. but
    the
    final user does not care about all this... he she wants something that
    works.

    Why did they change the whole sound layer? Why didn't they make an extra
    fall back mode for the
    Graphics that would support the classic type of acceleration like XP had,
    rather they pulled that out completely
    leaving horrible performance when using classic theme?

    The changes Vista did do in the gui were all unfortunate. Mistake after
    mistake after mistake!
    This GUI seems it was make by monkeys! I cant express how bad it is..

    As Mc Coy said on Star Trek the Motion Picture... "I know engineers they
    LOVE to change things."

    To sum it up In vista they changed things they shouldn't have, they didn't
    change things they should have
    and the things they changed are a disaster!




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    > "On the Bridge!" wrote in message news:47c803e6$1@xxxxxx-privat.org...

    >>
    >> http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-988...=2547-1_3-0-20
    >>
    >> "Secondly, he said, major changes to the way Vista handles audio and
    >> video caused headaches, particularly for those upgrading from XP.
    >> Finally, he said, many Windows XP drivers didn't really work under Vista.
    >> "This is across the board for printers, scanners, wan, accessories
    >> (fingerprint readers, smartcards, tv tuners), and so on," Sinofsky wrote.
    >> "This category is due to the fact that many of the associated applets
    >> don't run within the constraints of the security model or the new
    >> video/audio driver models."
    >>
    >>
    > So, essentially, the complaint is that Vista really is what it was
    > advertised to be... a *different* Windows, unlike XP and earlier versions,
    > rebuilt from the kernel up. Of course, if XP drivers and software worked
    > the same as it did in XP, then the complaint would have been that Vista is
    > just another upgrade of the same old tired Windows OS. :-p
    >

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  6. #5


    Jasper Guest

    Re: What created the Vista problem in the first place?


    "On the Bridge" <OntheBridge@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:47c820ab$3@xxxxxx-privat.org...

    >I think that should have focus more on the things that matters most to the
    >user
    > better GUI, more user friendly functions, more options, easier, faster,
    > better....
    >
    > Sure changing stuff around may be important and fun to the developers..
    > but the
    > final user does not care about all this... he she wants something that
    > works.
    >
    > Why did they change the whole sound layer? Why didn't they make an extra
    > fall back mode for the
    > Graphics that would support the classic type of acceleration like XP had,
    > rather they pulled that out completely
    > leaving horrible performance when using classic theme?
    >
    > The changes Vista did do in the gui were all unfortunate. Mistake after
    > mistake after mistake!
    > This GUI seems it was make by monkeys! I cant express how bad it is..
    >
    > As Mc Coy said on Star Trek the Motion Picture... "I know engineers they
    > LOVE to change things."
    >
    > To sum it up In vista they changed things they shouldn't have, they didn't
    > change things they should have
    > and the things they changed are a disaster!
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > <here@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:%23TMlTKueIHA.2268@xxxxxx

    >> "On the Bridge!" wrote in message
    >> news:47c803e6$1@xxxxxx-privat.org...

    >>>
    >>> http://www.news.com/8301-13860_3-988...=2547-1_3-0-20
    >>>
    >>> "Secondly, he said, major changes to the way Vista handles audio and
    >>> video caused headaches, particularly for those upgrading from XP.
    >>> Finally, he said, many Windows XP drivers didn't really work under
    >>> Vista. "This is across the board for printers, scanners, wan,
    >>> accessories (fingerprint readers, smartcards, tv tuners), and so on,"
    >>> Sinofsky wrote. "This category is due to the fact that many of the
    >>> associated applets don't run within the constraints of the security
    >>> model or the new video/audio driver models."
    >>>
    >>>
    >> So, essentially, the complaint is that Vista really is what it was
    >> advertised to be... a *different* Windows, unlike XP and earlier
    >> versions, rebuilt from the kernel up. Of course, if XP drivers and
    >> software worked the same as it did in XP, then the complaint would have
    >> been that Vista is just another upgrade of the same old tired Windows OS.
    >> :-p
    >>
    >
    If it is such a bad OS why do you continue to use it. Go back to XP and be
    happy.



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  7. #6


    HeyBub Guest

    Re: What created the Vista problem in the first place?

    Jasper wrote:

    >>
    >
    > If it is such a bad OS why do you continue to use it. Go back to XP
    > and be happy.
    He is: He's posting using OE ver 6.00



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