Vista - Exclusive: Microsoft Still Plans October 2006 Vista Release

Paul Thurott has been documented as dead wrong about 15 times since Vista
began to be a gleam in the eye. Markedly wrong. Longtime Windows release
watchers woudn't bat a serious eye at this information.

MSFT is under very heavy pressure at the highest levels this moment from
MVPs and many influential people to bakc their butts up with the Vista
release.

Ed Bott has called the schedule "horrendous." He writes the best selling
and certainly one of the best books on Vista. It has sold a million copies
and it is 15 pages long.

I can show you a ton of Windows experts who are among the best known writers
and teachers of it who say the same.

The best known MSFT Blogger and Employee who Blogged has said the same.

I would never count on (no discredit to the fine work Paul does) a Paul
Thurott Redmond anybody told me this because they often pull the rug out
from under Paul.

CH


"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:OwuVagIwGHA.3964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...182/93182.html
>
> According to sources at Microsoft, the company plans to ship Windows Vista
> Release Candidate 1 (RC1) in early September. More important, perhaps, is
> that Microsoft still plans to release Vista to manufacturing by the end of
> October as previously planned, defying rumors that the company would delay
> Vista yet again.
> Although I'm not at liberty to divulge the full contents of the message,
> Microsoft has placed build 5520 into escrow as the RC1 of Vista. This
> build will be released to testers and the public after the Labor Day
> holiday in the United States, which falls this year on September 4.
> Currently, Microsoft expects to ship RC1 on or after September 7.
>
> Meanwhile, the release to manufacturing (RTM), or final, version of Vista
> is set for a September 2006 escrow and final release on or before October
> 25. We can expect a Longhorn Server Beta 3 release in first quarter 2007,
> an RC2 release in second quarter 2007, and the final release in the second
> half of 2007.
>
> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...181/93181.html
>
> OneStat: Windows Continues to Dominate
> Microsoft's next-generation OS, Windows Vista, continues to be horribly
> late, but that hasn't stopped the current version, Windows XP, from
> dominating the OS market. Web analytics company OneStat.com says that XP
> is responsible for almost 87 percent of all Web usage, while all Windows
> versions combined account for 97 percent of Web usage.
>
>
> "Microsoft's Windows dominates the operating system market with a global
> usage share of 96.97 percent," OneStat.com reports. "The leading operating
> system on the Web is Microsoft's Windows XP with a global usage share of
> 86.80 percent. Microsoft's Windows 2000 has a global usage share of 6.09
> percent and is the second most popular OS on the Web."
>
>
> You read that right. Windows 2000 is the second most often used OS on the
> Web, with almost three times the usage share of all Macintosh versions
> combined. During an event keynote last week, Apple CEO Steve Jobs was
> quick to point out that Mac OS X was "gaining market share," but Apple has
> made only concrete gains in very specific markets, such as "retail sales
> of notebook computers in the US." In reality, Mac OS X usage is still
> below 2.5 percent worldwide. Even the 8-year-old Windows 98, with 2.68
> percent of the market, accounts for more users than OS X does.
>
>
> Many had expected Apple's recent successes with the dominant iPod MP3
> player and the move to Macs that use Intel chips to increase the company's
> share of the OS market. That hasn't happened yet, although it still could:
> With Vista not scheduled for general availability until early 2007, Apple
> has an opening during which it can sell Mac OS X systems to Windows
> converts while pushing its next-generation OS, code-named Leopard.
>
>
> According to OneStat.com, the following are the most frequently used OSs
> on the Web in the world:
>
>
> 1. Windows XP - 86.80 percent
> 2. Windows 2000 - 6.09 percent
> 3. Windows 98 - 2.68 percent
> 4. Macintosh/ Macintosh Power PC - 2.47 percent
> 5. Windows Me - 1.09 percent
> 6. Linux - 0.36 percent
> 7. Windows NT - 0.24 percent
>
>
>
> --
> Michael
> ______
> "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools,
> but that the lightning ain't distributed right."
> - Mark Twain
>
>

RC1 ain't much improved unless you're delusional.

CH


"dotcom" <No@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:eDOOlyJwGHA.4920@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Good to know MICHAEL thanks.
> I was hoping for sooner since 5384 which was running just fine at first
> has now slowed to a C R A W L and is practically unusable, but will just
> have to wait I guess and hope RC1 is much improved.
> dotcom
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:OwuVagIwGHA.3964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...182/93182.html
>>
>> According to sources at Microsoft, the company plans to ship Windows
>> Vista Release Candidate 1 (RC1) in early September. More important,
>> perhaps, is that Microsoft still plans to release Vista to manufacturing
>> by the end of October as previously planned, defying rumors that the
>> company would delay Vista yet again.
>> Although I'm not at liberty to divulge the full contents of the message,
>> Microsoft has placed build 5520 into escrow as the RC1 of Vista. This
>> build will be released to testers and the public after the Labor Day
>> holiday in the United States, which falls this year on September 4.
>> Currently, Microsoft expects to ship RC1 on or after September 7.
>>
>> Meanwhile, the release to manufacturing (RTM), or final, version of Vista
>> is set for a September 2006 escrow and final release on or before October
>> 25. We can expect a Longhorn Server Beta 3 release in first quarter 2007,
>> an RC2 release in second quarter 2007, and the final release in the
>> second half of 2007.
>>
>> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...181/93181.html
>>
>> OneStat: Windows Continues to Dominate
>> Microsoft's next-generation OS, Windows Vista, continues to be horribly
>> late, but that hasn't stopped the current version, Windows XP, from
>> dominating the OS market. Web analytics company OneStat.com says that XP
>> is responsible for almost 87 percent of all Web usage, while all Windows
>> versions combined account for 97 percent of Web usage.
>>
>>
>> "Microsoft's Windows dominates the operating system market with a global
>> usage share of 96.97 percent," OneStat.com reports. "The leading
>> operating system on the Web is Microsoft's Windows XP with a global usage
>> share of 86.80 percent. Microsoft's Windows 2000 has a global usage share
>> of 6.09 percent and is the second most popular OS on the Web."
>>
>>
>> You read that right. Windows 2000 is the second most often used OS on the
>> Web, with almost three times the usage share of all Macintosh versions
>> combined. During an event keynote last week, Apple CEO Steve Jobs was
>> quick to point out that Mac OS X was "gaining market share," but Apple
>> has made only concrete gains in very specific markets, such as "retail
>> sales of notebook computers in the US." In reality, Mac OS X usage is
>> still below 2.5 percent worldwide. Even the 8-year-old Windows 98, with
>> 2.68 percent of the market, accounts for more users than OS X does.
>>
>>
>> Many had expected Apple's recent successes with the dominant iPod MP3
>> player and the move to Macs that use Intel chips to increase the
>> company's share of the OS market. That hasn't happened yet, although it
>> still could: With Vista not scheduled for general availability until
>> early 2007, Apple has an opening during which it can sell Mac OS X
>> systems to Windows converts while pushing its next-generation OS,
>> code-named Leopard.
>>
>>
>> According to OneStat.com, the following are the most frequently used OSs
>> on the Web in the world:
>>
>>
>> 1. Windows XP - 86.80 percent
>> 2. Windows 2000 - 6.09 percent
>> 3. Windows 98 - 2.68 percent
>> 4. Macintosh/ Macintosh Power PC - 2.47 percent
>> 5. Windows Me - 1.09 percent
>> 6. Linux - 0.36 percent
>> 7. Windows NT - 0.24 percent
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael
>> ______
>> "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools,
>> but that the lightning ain't distributed right."
>> - Mark Twain
>>
>>
>
>

Correction: Ed Bott's Vista Inside Out MSFT Press has presold over 900,000
copies and XP Inside Out was over 1500 pages long. All of it is well done.

Too ridiculous. The thesis RC1 woulr release in the first two weeks of
September, and then something wouldbe slapped together with a Windows Start
button and some superficial changes called RC2 and then badda bing Wegner
Edstrom would slap lipstick, rouge and tons of mascara on a limping pig and
trot it out as Vista. I don't think Paul Thurott has learned the principle
of "escrow" is when funds are deposited to be held until a promised service
is delivered. So MSFT is putting this turkey "in Escrow" for what for whom
for why?

Vista has so many fundamental flaws right now that even the least
experienced users are picking them off. They would be shocked if they were
able to look further under the hood.

They would be shocked if MSFT weren't so paranoid that they hide their bug
reports and won't make public what they've fixed, won't fix, can't fix, and
will fix or don't konw whether they'll fix.

CH

Congratulations to the polished, euridite opponent of Hillary Clinton, John
Spenser who released an add with Hillary Clinton next to Bin Ladin and
mispelled the word fascist. Of course John Spenser isn't even close to
having an ice cube's chanc ein hell.

Kudos to the stupid republicans who don't understand what foiled the bomb
attack in Britain were old fashioned warrants and old fashioned surveillance
and infiltration.

The party that opposes evolution is squarely planted in the belly of
Darwin's Waiting Room.



"Chad Harris" <HQ@MSFTtindenialovervistamess.com> wrote in message
news:ukikntLwGHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Paul Thurott has been documented as dead wrong about 15 times since Vista
> began to be a gleam in the eye. Markedly wrong. Longtime Windows release
> watchers woudn't bat a serious eye at this information.
>
> MSFT is under very heavy pressure at the highest levels this moment from
> MVPs and many influential people to bakc their butts up with the Vista
> release.
>
> Ed Bott has called the schedule "horrendous." He writes the best selling
> and certainly one of the best books on Vista. It has sold a million copies
> and it is 15 pages long.
>
> I can show you a ton of Windows experts who are among the best known
> writers and teachers of it who say the same.
>
> The best known MSFT Blogger and Employee who Blogged has said the same.
>
> I would never count on (no discredit to the fine work Paul does) a Paul
> Thurott Redmond anybody told me this because they often pull the rug out
> from under Paul.
>
> CH
>
>
> "MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
> news:OwuVagIwGHA.3964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...182/93182.html
>>
>> According to sources at Microsoft, the company plans to ship Windows
>> Vista Release Candidate 1 (RC1) in early September. More important,
>> perhaps, is that Microsoft still plans to release Vista to manufacturing
>> by the end of October as previously planned, defying rumors that the
>> company would delay Vista yet again.
>> Although I'm not at liberty to divulge the full contents of the message,
>> Microsoft has placed build 5520 into escrow as the RC1 of Vista. This
>> build will be released to testers and the public after the Labor Day
>> holiday in the United States, which falls this year on September 4.
>> Currently, Microsoft expects to ship RC1 on or after September 7.
>>
>> Meanwhile, the release to manufacturing (RTM), or final, version of Vista
>> is set for a September 2006 escrow and final release on or before October
>> 25. We can expect a Longhorn Server Beta 3 release in first quarter 2007,
>> an RC2 release in second quarter 2007, and the final release in the
>> second half of 2007.
>>
>> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...181/93181.html
>>
>> OneStat: Windows Continues to Dominate
>> Microsoft's next-generation OS, Windows Vista, continues to be horribly
>> late, but that hasn't stopped the current version, Windows XP, from
>> dominating the OS market. Web analytics company OneStat.com says that XP
>> is responsible for almost 87 percent of all Web usage, while all Windows
>> versions combined account for 97 percent of Web usage.
>>
>>
>> "Microsoft's Windows dominates the operating system market with a global
>> usage share of 96.97 percent," OneStat.com reports. "The leading
>> operating system on the Web is Microsoft's Windows XP with a global usage
>> share of 86.80 percent. Microsoft's Windows 2000 has a global usage share
>> of 6.09 percent and is the second most popular OS on the Web."
>>
>>
>> You read that right. Windows 2000 is the second most often used OS on the
>> Web, with almost three times the usage share of all Macintosh versions
>> combined. During an event keynote last week, Apple CEO Steve Jobs was
>> quick to point out that Mac OS X was "gaining market share," but Apple
>> has made only concrete gains in very specific markets, such as "retail
>> sales of notebook computers in the US." In reality, Mac OS X usage is
>> still below 2.5 percent worldwide. Even the 8-year-old Windows 98, with
>> 2.68 percent of the market, accounts for more users than OS X does.
>>
>>
>> Many had expected Apple's recent successes with the dominant iPod MP3
>> player and the move to Macs that use Intel chips to increase the
>> company's share of the OS market. That hasn't happened yet, although it
>> still could: With Vista not scheduled for general availability until
>> early 2007, Apple has an opening during which it can sell Mac OS X
>> systems to Windows converts while pushing its next-generation OS,
>> code-named Leopard.
>>
>>
>> According to OneStat.com, the following are the most frequently used OSs
>> on the Web in the world:
>>
>>
>> 1. Windows XP - 86.80 percent
>> 2. Windows 2000 - 6.09 percent
>> 3. Windows 98 - 2.68 percent
>> 4. Macintosh/ Macintosh Power PC - 2.47 percent
>> 5. Windows Me - 1.09 percent
>> 6. Linux - 0.36 percent
>> 7. Windows NT - 0.24 percent
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael
>> ______
>> "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools,
>> but that the lightning ain't distributed right."
>> - Mark Twain
>>
>>
>
>

My Dell XPS 600 has an Incompatible Nvidia Nforce 4 SLI Intel Edition
Chipset, in order to get an Intel Core 2 Duo, I would need to buy a Dell XPS
700, Just FYI.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> Take heart, Kev, Intel is supposed to release the Core 2 Duo E6600 and E6700
> chips today. So happy birthday from Intel! (and me too)
>
> "Kevin Panzke" <KevinPanzke@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:062BF7E2-9765-4DE0-AC6B-5BB8F80FE4A1@microsoft.com...
> > And, I am Very Disapointed that RC1 won't be coming out Today, because
> > Today
> > is my 29th Birthday, Just FYI.
> >
> > "MICHAEL" wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...182/93182.html
> >>
> >> According to sources at Microsoft, the company plans to ship Windows
> >> Vista Release Candidate 1
> >> (RC1) in early September. More important, perhaps, is that Microsoft
> >> still plans to release
> >> Vista to manufacturing by the end of October as previously planned,
> >> defying rumors that the
> >> company would delay Vista yet again.
> >> Although I'm not at liberty to divulge the full contents of the message,
> >> Microsoft has placed
> >> build 5520 into escrow as the RC1 of Vista. This build will be released
> >> to testers and the
> >> public after the Labor Day holiday in the United States, which falls this
> >> year on September 4.
> >> Currently, Microsoft expects to ship RC1 on or after September 7.
> >>
> >> Meanwhile, the release to manufacturing (RTM), or final, version of Vista
> >> is set for a
> >> September 2006 escrow and final release on or before October 25. We can
> >> expect a Longhorn
> >> Server Beta 3 release in first quarter 2007, an RC2 release in second
> >> quarter 2007, and the
> >> final release in the second half of 2007.
> >>
> >> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...181/93181.html
> >>
> >> OneStat: Windows Continues to Dominate
> >> Microsoft's next-generation OS, Windows Vista, continues to be horribly
> >> late, but that hasn't
> >> stopped the current version, Windows XP, from dominating the OS market.
> >> Web analytics company
> >> OneStat.com says that XP is responsible for almost 87 percent of all Web
> >> usage, while all
> >> Windows versions combined account for 97 percent of Web usage.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Microsoft's Windows dominates the operating system market with a global
> >> usage share of 96.97
> >> percent," OneStat.com reports. "The leading operating system on the Web
> >> is Microsoft's Windows
> >> XP with a global usage share of 86.80 percent. Microsoft's Windows 2000
> >> has a global usage
> >> share of 6.09 percent and is the second most popular OS on the Web."
> >>
> >>
> >> You read that right. Windows 2000 is the second most often used OS on the
> >> Web, with almost
> >> three times the usage share of all Macintosh versions combined. During an
> >> event keynote last
> >> week, Apple CEO Steve Jobs was quick to point out that Mac OS X was
> >> "gaining market share," but
> >> Apple has made only concrete gains in very specific markets, such as
> >> "retail sales of notebook
> >> computers in the US." In reality, Mac OS X usage is still below 2.5
> >> percent worldwide. Even the
> >> 8-year-old Windows 98, with 2.68 percent of the market, accounts for more
> >> users than OS X does.
> >>
> >>
> >> Many had expected Apple's recent successes with the dominant iPod MP3
> >> player and the move to
> >> Macs that use Intel chips to increase the company's share of the OS
> >> market. That hasn't
> >> happened yet, although it still could: With Vista not scheduled for
> >> general availability until
> >> early 2007, Apple has an opening during which it can sell Mac OS X
> >> systems to Windows converts
> >> while pushing its next-generation OS, code-named Leopard.
> >>
> >>
> >> According to OneStat.com, the following are the most frequently used OSs
> >> on the Web in the
> >> world:
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. Windows XP - 86.80 percent
> >> 2. Windows 2000 - 6.09 percent
> >> 3. Windows 98 - 2.68 percent
> >> 4. Macintosh/ Macintosh Power PC - 2.47 percent
> >> 5. Windows Me - 1.09 percent
> >> 6. Linux - 0.36 percent
> >> 7. Windows NT - 0.24 percent
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Michael
> >> ______
> >> "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools,
> >> but that the lightning ain't distributed right."
> >> - Mark Twain
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Happy Birthday, Kev!

Just FYI...

"Kevin Panzke" <KevinPanzke@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:062BF7E2-9765-4DE0-AC6B-5BB8F80FE4A1@microsoft.com...
> And, I am Very Disapointed that RC1 won't be coming out Today, because
> Today
> is my 29th Birthday, Just FYI.
>
> "MICHAEL" wrote:
>
>> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...182/93182.html
>>
>> According to sources at Microsoft, the company plans to ship Windows
>> Vista Release Candidate 1
>> (RC1) in early September. More important, perhaps, is that Microsoft
>> still plans to release
>> Vista to manufacturing by the end of October as previously planned,
>> defying rumors that the
>> company would delay Vista yet again.
>> Although I'm not at liberty to divulge the full contents of the message,
>> Microsoft has placed
>> build 5520 into escrow as the RC1 of Vista. This build will be released
>> to testers and the
>> public after the Labor Day holiday in the United States, which falls this
>> year on September 4.
>> Currently, Microsoft expects to ship RC1 on or after September 7.
>>
>> Meanwhile, the release to manufacturing (RTM), or final, version of Vista
>> is set for a
>> September 2006 escrow and final release on or before October 25. We can
>> expect a Longhorn
>> Server Beta 3 release in first quarter 2007, an RC2 release in second
>> quarter 2007, and the
>> final release in the second half of 2007.
>>
>> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...181/93181.html
>>
>> OneStat: Windows Continues to Dominate
>> Microsoft's next-generation OS, Windows Vista, continues to be horribly
>> late, but that hasn't
>> stopped the current version, Windows XP, from dominating the OS market.
>> Web analytics company
>> OneStat.com says that XP is responsible for almost 87 percent of all Web
>> usage, while all
>> Windows versions combined account for 97 percent of Web usage.
>>
>>
>> "Microsoft's Windows dominates the operating system market with a global
>> usage share of 96.97
>> percent," OneStat.com reports. "The leading operating system on the Web
>> is Microsoft's Windows
>> XP with a global usage share of 86.80 percent. Microsoft's Windows 2000
>> has a global usage
>> share of 6.09 percent and is the second most popular OS on the Web."
>>
>>
>> You read that right. Windows 2000 is the second most often used OS on the
>> Web, with almost
>> three times the usage share of all Macintosh versions combined. During an
>> event keynote last
>> week, Apple CEO Steve Jobs was quick to point out that Mac OS X was
>> "gaining market share," but
>> Apple has made only concrete gains in very specific markets, such as
>> "retail sales of notebook
>> computers in the US." In reality, Mac OS X usage is still below 2.5
>> percent worldwide. Even the
>> 8-year-old Windows 98, with 2.68 percent of the market, accounts for more
>> users than OS X does.
>>
>>
>> Many had expected Apple's recent successes with the dominant iPod MP3
>> player and the move to
>> Macs that use Intel chips to increase the company's share of the OS
>> market. That hasn't
>> happened yet, although it still could: With Vista not scheduled for
>> general availability until
>> early 2007, Apple has an opening during which it can sell Mac OS X
>> systems to Windows converts
>> while pushing its next-generation OS, code-named Leopard.
>>
>>
>> According to OneStat.com, the following are the most frequently used OSs
>> on the Web in the
>> world:
>>
>>
>> 1. Windows XP - 86.80 percent
>> 2. Windows 2000 - 6.09 percent
>> 3. Windows 98 - 2.68 percent
>> 4. Macintosh/ Macintosh Power PC - 2.47 percent
>> 5. Windows Me - 1.09 percent
>> 6. Linux - 0.36 percent
>> 7. Windows NT - 0.24 percent
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Michael
>> ______
>> "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools,
>> but that the lightning ain't distributed right."
>> - Mark Twain
>>
>>
>>

P.S. My Dell XPS 600 OEM BIOS may be Incompatible, as well.

"Kevin Panzke" wrote:

> My Dell XPS 600 has an Incompatible Nvidia Nforce 4 SLI Intel Edition
> Chipset, in order to get an Intel Core 2 Duo, I would need to buy a Dell XPS
> 700, Just FYI.
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
> > Take heart, Kev, Intel is supposed to release the Core 2 Duo E6600 and E6700
> > chips today. So happy birthday from Intel! (and me too)
> >
> > "Kevin Panzke" <KevinPanzke@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:062BF7E2-9765-4DE0-AC6B-5BB8F80FE4A1@microsoft.com...
> > > And, I am Very Disapointed that RC1 won't be coming out Today, because
> > > Today
> > > is my 29th Birthday, Just FYI.
> > >
> > > "MICHAEL" wrote:
> > >
> > >> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...182/93182.html
> > >>
> > >> According to sources at Microsoft, the company plans to ship Windows
> > >> Vista Release Candidate 1
> > >> (RC1) in early September. More important, perhaps, is that Microsoft
> > >> still plans to release
> > >> Vista to manufacturing by the end of October as previously planned,
> > >> defying rumors that the
> > >> company would delay Vista yet again.
> > >> Although I'm not at liberty to divulge the full contents of the message,
> > >> Microsoft has placed
> > >> build 5520 into escrow as the RC1 of Vista. This build will be released
> > >> to testers and the
> > >> public after the Labor Day holiday in the United States, which falls this
> > >> year on September 4.
> > >> Currently, Microsoft expects to ship RC1 on or after September 7.
> > >>
> > >> Meanwhile, the release to manufacturing (RTM), or final, version of Vista
> > >> is set for a
> > >> September 2006 escrow and final release on or before October 25. We can
> > >> expect a Longhorn
> > >> Server Beta 3 release in first quarter 2007, an RC2 release in second
> > >> quarter 2007, and the
> > >> final release in the second half of 2007.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...181/93181.html
> > >>
> > >> OneStat: Windows Continues to Dominate
> > >> Microsoft's next-generation OS, Windows Vista, continues to be horribly
> > >> late, but that hasn't
> > >> stopped the current version, Windows XP, from dominating the OS market.
> > >> Web analytics company
> > >> OneStat.com says that XP is responsible for almost 87 percent of all Web
> > >> usage, while all
> > >> Windows versions combined account for 97 percent of Web usage.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Microsoft's Windows dominates the operating system market with a global
> > >> usage share of 96.97
> > >> percent," OneStat.com reports. "The leading operating system on the Web
> > >> is Microsoft's Windows
> > >> XP with a global usage share of 86.80 percent. Microsoft's Windows 2000
> > >> has a global usage
> > >> share of 6.09 percent and is the second most popular OS on the Web."
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> You read that right. Windows 2000 is the second most often used OS on the
> > >> Web, with almost
> > >> three times the usage share of all Macintosh versions combined. During an
> > >> event keynote last
> > >> week, Apple CEO Steve Jobs was quick to point out that Mac OS X was
> > >> "gaining market share," but
> > >> Apple has made only concrete gains in very specific markets, such as
> > >> "retail sales of notebook
> > >> computers in the US." In reality, Mac OS X usage is still below 2.5
> > >> percent worldwide. Even the
> > >> 8-year-old Windows 98, with 2.68 percent of the market, accounts for more
> > >> users than OS X does.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Many had expected Apple's recent successes with the dominant iPod MP3
> > >> player and the move to
> > >> Macs that use Intel chips to increase the company's share of the OS
> > >> market. That hasn't
> > >> happened yet, although it still could: With Vista not scheduled for
> > >> general availability until
> > >> early 2007, Apple has an opening during which it can sell Mac OS X
> > >> systems to Windows converts
> > >> while pushing its next-generation OS, code-named Leopard.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> According to OneStat.com, the following are the most frequently used OSs
> > >> on the Web in the
> > >> world:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 1. Windows XP - 86.80 percent
> > >> 2. Windows 2000 - 6.09 percent
> > >> 3. Windows 98 - 2.68 percent
> > >> 4. Macintosh/ Macintosh Power PC - 2.47 percent
> > >> 5. Windows Me - 1.09 percent
> > >> 6. Linux - 0.36 percent
> > >> 7. Windows NT - 0.24 percent
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Michael
> > >> ______
> > >> "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools,
> > >> but that the lightning ain't distributed right."
> > >> - Mark Twain
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >

That is common with Intel chipsets. I ordered a new Core 2 Duo system
August 2 and it is on hold for the cpu and cooler. I just got an email from
my system builder about the reason for the delay and that's how I found out
about the one week delay for the E6600 and E6700 launches.

Interestingly, it appears that I will be able to upgrade my MacBook Pro from
Core Duo to Core 2 Duo with just a cpu swap and a firmware update. I am
only one more computer away from going all 64.

"Kevin Panzke" <KevinPanzke@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F79651ED-9B53-491E-8F59-F86131B8E92C@microsoft.com...
> P.S. My Dell XPS 600 OEM BIOS may be Incompatible, as well.
>
> "Kevin Panzke" wrote:
>
>> My Dell XPS 600 has an Incompatible Nvidia Nforce 4 SLI Intel Edition
>> Chipset, in order to get an Intel Core 2 Duo, I would need to buy a Dell
>> XPS
>> 700, Just FYI.
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>>
>> > Take heart, Kev, Intel is supposed to release the Core 2 Duo E6600 and
>> > E6700
>> > chips today. So happy birthday from Intel! (and me too)
>> >
>> > "Kevin Panzke" <KevinPanzke@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:062BF7E2-9765-4DE0-AC6B-5BB8F80FE4A1@microsoft.com...
>> > > And, I am Very Disapointed that RC1 won't be coming out Today,
>> > > because
>> > > Today
>> > > is my 29th Birthday, Just FYI.
>> > >
>> > > "MICHAEL" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...182/93182.html
>> > >>
>> > >> According to sources at Microsoft, the company plans to ship Windows
>> > >> Vista Release Candidate 1
>> > >> (RC1) in early September. More important, perhaps, is that Microsoft
>> > >> still plans to release
>> > >> Vista to manufacturing by the end of October as previously planned,
>> > >> defying rumors that the
>> > >> company would delay Vista yet again.
>> > >> Although I'm not at liberty to divulge the full contents of the
>> > >> message,
>> > >> Microsoft has placed
>> > >> build 5520 into escrow as the RC1 of Vista. This build will be
>> > >> released
>> > >> to testers and the
>> > >> public after the Labor Day holiday in the United States, which falls
>> > >> this
>> > >> year on September 4.
>> > >> Currently, Microsoft expects to ship RC1 on or after September 7.
>> > >>
>> > >> Meanwhile, the release to manufacturing (RTM), or final, version of
>> > >> Vista
>> > >> is set for a
>> > >> September 2006 escrow and final release on or before October 25. We
>> > >> can
>> > >> expect a Longhorn
>> > >> Server Beta 3 release in first quarter 2007, an RC2 release in
>> > >> second
>> > >> quarter 2007, and the
>> > >> final release in the second half of 2007.
>> > >>
>> > >> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...181/93181.html
>> > >>
>> > >> OneStat: Windows Continues to Dominate
>> > >> Microsoft's next-generation OS, Windows Vista, continues to be
>> > >> horribly
>> > >> late, but that hasn't
>> > >> stopped the current version, Windows XP, from dominating the OS
>> > >> market.
>> > >> Web analytics company
>> > >> OneStat.com says that XP is responsible for almost 87 percent of all
>> > >> Web
>> > >> usage, while all
>> > >> Windows versions combined account for 97 percent of Web usage.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "Microsoft's Windows dominates the operating system market with a
>> > >> global
>> > >> usage share of 96.97
>> > >> percent," OneStat.com reports. "The leading operating system on the
>> > >> Web
>> > >> is Microsoft's Windows
>> > >> XP with a global usage share of 86.80 percent. Microsoft's Windows
>> > >> 2000
>> > >> has a global usage
>> > >> share of 6.09 percent and is the second most popular OS on the Web."
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> You read that right. Windows 2000 is the second most often used OS
>> > >> on the
>> > >> Web, with almost
>> > >> three times the usage share of all Macintosh versions combined.
>> > >> During an
>> > >> event keynote last
>> > >> week, Apple CEO Steve Jobs was quick to point out that Mac OS X was
>> > >> "gaining market share," but
>> > >> Apple has made only concrete gains in very specific markets, such as
>> > >> "retail sales of notebook
>> > >> computers in the US." In reality, Mac OS X usage is still below 2.5
>> > >> percent worldwide. Even the
>> > >> 8-year-old Windows 98, with 2.68 percent of the market, accounts for
>> > >> more
>> > >> users than OS X does.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Many had expected Apple's recent successes with the dominant iPod
>> > >> MP3
>> > >> player and the move to
>> > >> Macs that use Intel chips to increase the company's share of the OS
>> > >> market. That hasn't
>> > >> happened yet, although it still could: With Vista not scheduled for
>> > >> general availability until
>> > >> early 2007, Apple has an opening during which it can sell Mac OS X
>> > >> systems to Windows converts
>> > >> while pushing its next-generation OS, code-named Leopard.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> According to OneStat.com, the following are the most frequently used
>> > >> OSs
>> > >> on the Web in the
>> > >> world:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> 1. Windows XP - 86.80 percent
>> > >> 2. Windows 2000 - 6.09 percent
>> > >> 3. Windows 98 - 2.68 percent
>> > >> 4. Macintosh/ Macintosh Power PC - 2.47 percent
>> > >> 5. Windows Me - 1.09 percent
>> > >> 6. Linux - 0.36 percent
>> > >> 7. Windows NT - 0.24 percent
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Michael
>> > >> ______
>> > >> "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools,
>> > >> but that the lightning ain't distributed right."
>> > >> - Mark Twain
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>> >

Well, my Dell XPS 600 is now a Discontinued Product, so trying to get a BIOS
Update (The Dell OEM A10 BIOS Revision Does NOT Support Intel Core 2 Duo) out
of them may be Impossible, and I might need to Upgrade the NVIDIA Chipset to
the 590 Series SLI Intel Edition MCP, as well.

"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:

> That is common with Intel chipsets. I ordered a new Core 2 Duo system
> August 2 and it is on hold for the cpu and cooler. I just got an email from
> my system builder about the reason for the delay and that's how I found out
> about the one week delay for the E6600 and E6700 launches.
>
> Interestingly, it appears that I will be able to upgrade my MacBook Pro from
> Core Duo to Core 2 Duo with just a cpu swap and a firmware update. I am
> only one more computer away from going all 64.
>
> "Kevin Panzke" <KevinPanzke@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F79651ED-9B53-491E-8F59-F86131B8E92C@microsoft.com...
> > P.S. My Dell XPS 600 OEM BIOS may be Incompatible, as well.
> >
> > "Kevin Panzke" wrote:
> >
> >> My Dell XPS 600 has an Incompatible Nvidia Nforce 4 SLI Intel Edition
> >> Chipset, in order to get an Intel Core 2 Duo, I would need to buy a Dell
> >> XPS
> >> 700, Just FYI.
> >>
> >> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Take heart, Kev, Intel is supposed to release the Core 2 Duo E6600 and
> >> > E6700
> >> > chips today. So happy birthday from Intel! (and me too)
> >> >
> >> > "Kevin Panzke" <KevinPanzke@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:062BF7E2-9765-4DE0-AC6B-5BB8F80FE4A1@microsoft.com...
> >> > > And, I am Very Disapointed that RC1 won't be coming out Today,
> >> > > because
> >> > > Today
> >> > > is my 29th Birthday, Just FYI.
> >> > >
> >> > > "MICHAEL" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...182/93182.html
> >> > >>
> >> > >> According to sources at Microsoft, the company plans to ship Windows
> >> > >> Vista Release Candidate 1
> >> > >> (RC1) in early September. More important, perhaps, is that Microsoft
> >> > >> still plans to release
> >> > >> Vista to manufacturing by the end of October as previously planned,
> >> > >> defying rumors that the
> >> > >> company would delay Vista yet again.
> >> > >> Although I'm not at liberty to divulge the full contents of the
> >> > >> message,
> >> > >> Microsoft has placed
> >> > >> build 5520 into escrow as the RC1 of Vista. This build will be
> >> > >> released
> >> > >> to testers and the
> >> > >> public after the Labor Day holiday in the United States, which falls
> >> > >> this
> >> > >> year on September 4.
> >> > >> Currently, Microsoft expects to ship RC1 on or after September 7.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Meanwhile, the release to manufacturing (RTM), or final, version of
> >> > >> Vista
> >> > >> is set for a
> >> > >> September 2006 escrow and final release on or before October 25. We
> >> > >> can
> >> > >> expect a Longhorn
> >> > >> Server Beta 3 release in first quarter 2007, an RC2 release in
> >> > >> second
> >> > >> quarter 2007, and the
> >> > >> final release in the second half of 2007.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...181/93181.html
> >> > >>
> >> > >> OneStat: Windows Continues to Dominate
> >> > >> Microsoft's next-generation OS, Windows Vista, continues to be
> >> > >> horribly
> >> > >> late, but that hasn't
> >> > >> stopped the current version, Windows XP, from dominating the OS
> >> > >> market.
> >> > >> Web analytics company
> >> > >> OneStat.com says that XP is responsible for almost 87 percent of all
> >> > >> Web
> >> > >> usage, while all
> >> > >> Windows versions combined account for 97 percent of Web usage.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Microsoft's Windows dominates the operating system market with a
> >> > >> global
> >> > >> usage share of 96.97
> >> > >> percent," OneStat.com reports. "The leading operating system on the
> >> > >> Web
> >> > >> is Microsoft's Windows
> >> > >> XP with a global usage share of 86.80 percent. Microsoft's Windows
> >> > >> 2000
> >> > >> has a global usage
> >> > >> share of 6.09 percent and is the second most popular OS on the Web."
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> You read that right. Windows 2000 is the second most often used OS
> >> > >> on the
> >> > >> Web, with almost
> >> > >> three times the usage share of all Macintosh versions combined.
> >> > >> During an
> >> > >> event keynote last
> >> > >> week, Apple CEO Steve Jobs was quick to point out that Mac OS X was
> >> > >> "gaining market share," but
> >> > >> Apple has made only concrete gains in very specific markets, such as
> >> > >> "retail sales of notebook
> >> > >> computers in the US." In reality, Mac OS X usage is still below 2.5
> >> > >> percent worldwide. Even the
> >> > >> 8-year-old Windows 98, with 2.68 percent of the market, accounts for
> >> > >> more
> >> > >> users than OS X does.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Many had expected Apple's recent successes with the dominant iPod
> >> > >> MP3
> >> > >> player and the move to
> >> > >> Macs that use Intel chips to increase the company's share of the OS
> >> > >> market. That hasn't
> >> > >> happened yet, although it still could: With Vista not scheduled for
> >> > >> general availability until
> >> > >> early 2007, Apple has an opening during which it can sell Mac OS X
> >> > >> systems to Windows converts
> >> > >> while pushing its next-generation OS, code-named Leopard.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> According to OneStat.com, the following are the most frequently used
> >> > >> OSs
> >> > >> on the Web in the
> >> > >> world:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> 1. Windows XP - 86.80 percent
> >> > >> 2. Windows 2000 - 6.09 percent
> >> > >> 3. Windows 98 - 2.68 percent
> >> > >> 4. Macintosh/ Macintosh Power PC - 2.47 percent
> >> > >> 5. Windows Me - 1.09 percent
> >> > >> 6. Linux - 0.36 percent
> >> > >> 7. Windows NT - 0.24 percent
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Michael
> >> > >> ______
> >> > >> "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools,
> >> > >> but that the lightning ain't distributed right."
> >> > >> - Mark Twain
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
>

"Microsoft has placed build 5520 into escrow as the RC1 of Vista"

Considering definition of escrow is "a piece of property held in trust by a
third party to be turned over to the grantee only upon fulfillment of a
condition", it makes me wonder why the word escrow is even used.
The agreeement is normally between the 1st and 2nd parties, presumably MS
and the public. (In this case the 3rd party would be the Beta testers).
So this begs the question, what is the 'condition' b/w MS and the public?,
and if it was 'fulfilled' what would the beta testers turn over?.

See my logic?. 'Escrow' appears to be a poor word choice.


"MICHAEL" <u158627_emr@dslr.net> wrote in message
news:OwuVagIwGHA.3964@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...182/93182.html
>
> According to sources at Microsoft, the company plans to ship Windows Vista
> Release Candidate 1 (RC1) in early September. More important, perhaps, is
> that Microsoft still plans to release Vista to manufacturing by the end of
> October as previously planned, defying rumors that the company would delay
> Vista yet again.
> Although I'm not at liberty to divulge the full contents of the message,
> Microsoft has placed build 5520 into escrow as the RC1 of Vista. This
> build will be released to testers and the public after the Labor Day
> holiday in the United States, which falls this year on September 4.
> Currently, Microsoft expects to ship RC1 on or after September 7.
>
> Meanwhile, the release to manufacturing (RTM), or final, version of Vista
> is set for a September 2006 escrow and final release on or before October
> 25. We can expect a Longhorn Server Beta 3 release in first quarter 2007,
> an RC2 release in second quarter 2007, and the final release in the second
> half of 2007.
>
> http://www.windowsitpro.com/Article/...181/93181.html
>
> OneStat: Windows Continues to Dominate
> Microsoft's next-generation OS, Windows Vista, continues to be horribly
> late, but that hasn't stopped the current version, Windows XP, from
> dominating the OS market. Web analytics company OneStat.com says that XP
> is responsible for almost 87 percent of all Web usage, while all Windows
> versions combined account for 97 percent of Web usage.
>
>
> "Microsoft's Windows dominates the operating system market with a global
> usage share of 96.97 percent," OneStat.com reports. "The leading operating
> system on the Web is Microsoft's Windows XP with a global usage share of
> 86.80 percent. Microsoft's Windows 2000 has a global usage share of 6.09
> percent and is the second most popular OS on the Web."
>
>
> You read that right. Windows 2000 is the second most often used OS on the
> Web, with almost three times the usage share of all Macintosh versions
> combined. During an event keynote last week, Apple CEO Steve Jobs was
> quick to point out that Mac OS X was "gaining market share," but Apple has
> made only concrete gains in very specific markets, such as "retail sales
> of notebook computers in the US." In reality, Mac OS X usage is still
> below 2.5 percent worldwide. Even the 8-year-old Windows 98, with 2.68
> percent of the market, accounts for more users than OS X does.
>
>
> Many had expected Apple's recent successes with the dominant iPod MP3
> player and the move to Macs that use Intel chips to increase the company's
> share of the OS market. That hasn't happened yet, although it still could:
> With Vista not scheduled for general availability until early 2007, Apple
> has an opening during which it can sell Mac OS X systems to Windows
> converts while pushing its next-generation OS, code-named Leopard.
>
>
> According to OneStat.com, the following are the most frequently used OSs
> on the Web in the world:
>
>
> 1. Windows XP - 86.80 percent
> 2. Windows 2000 - 6.09 percent
> 3. Windows 98 - 2.68 percent
> 4. Macintosh/ Macintosh Power PC - 2.47 percent
> 5. Windows Me - 1.09 percent
> 6. Linux - 0.36 percent
> 7. Windows NT - 0.24 percent
>
>
>
> --
> Michael
> ______
> "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools,
> but that the lightning ain't distributed right."
> - Mark Twain
>
>

I think the 'condition' is that the code is at a release-candidate level.
And that it will stay there until that condition is fullfilled. But just
guessing here.

- JB

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