Vista - beta 2 in schools

hi,

i am the network manager in a high school in england. i bought the public
version of windows vista for my own use. however, now i would like to install
it on a few machines in the staffroom so that my teachers can get used to the
vista experience. is this allowed with this version?

You bought? From eBay perhaps? If it is a CTP then, that is illegal, since
CTP's were released to MS Connect and MSDN members.... from my interputation,
it seems that you aren't a member of MSDN or MS Connect.

If you are a member of the CPP, or sign up to be, you can get RC1 in about a
week or two. RC1 will be alot more stable than 5384.4 (public beta 2). If you
install 5384.4, you might make alot of enemies with the staff (5384.4 will
drive non IT people nuts... bugs n' stuff).

"Roly" wrote:

> hi,
>
> i am the network manager in a high school in england. i bought the public
> version of windows vista for my own use. however, now i would like to install
> it on a few machines in the staffroom so that my teachers can get used to the
> vista experience. is this allowed with this version?

I'd say that one machine set aside for development work would seem
reasonable.

The machine should be clearly explained as a developmental one in which
colleagues willing to participate should feel no compulsion to do so.
In other words, it it is left alone that will be fine, if a queue arises
to use it then they have to be tolerant.

If this meets the approval of governors and senior managers a beta of
Office 2007 should also be installed in my opinion.

The idea is to let those whom wish to blossom: blossom with no
disrespect to those more cautious of newer technologies.

It should not be a mission critical machine. So for example, if it goes
belly up, no one should fume.

Go for it!

You may also wish to install a CTP of Expression graphic designer

(see
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan.pl...21b/NB21b.html

if you wish and seek to be more adventurous)

Oh, there was something else.

If the copy of beta 2 contravenes the conditions attached to beta 2
please act swiftly and responsibly immediately.

hi deebs,

trust me when i say that nothing mission critical ever happens in a school
staffroom.

can you tell me if office 2007 beta 2 works with vista? i tested the beta 1
& it would not with vista and i kinda gave up after that.

thanks for the posting, it was most thought provoking.

regards
roly

"deebs" wrote:

> I'd say that one machine set aside for development work would seem
> reasonable.
>
> The machine should be clearly explained as a developmental one in which
> colleagues willing to participate should feel no compulsion to do so.
> In other words, it it is left alone that will be fine, if a queue arises
> to use it then they have to be tolerant.
>
> If this meets the approval of governors and senior managers a beta of
> Office 2007 should also be installed in my opinion.
>
> The idea is to let those whom wish to blossom: blossom with no
> disrespect to those more cautious of newer technologies.
>
> It should not be a mission critical machine. So for example, if it goes
> belly up, no one should fume.
>
> Go for it!
>
> You may also wish to install a CTP of Expression graphic designer
>
> (see
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan.pl...21b/NB21b.html
>
> if you wish and seek to be more adventurous)
>

I use Office 2007 beta 2 with no issues with beta 2 of Vista. It will take
some getting used to, but personally, I find it easier then any previous
version of Office.

"Roly" <Roly@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B498EC4C-9700-4D59-A156-7B5989290108@microsoft.com...
> hi deebs,
>
> trust me when i say that nothing mission critical ever happens in a school
> staffroom.
>
> can you tell me if office 2007 beta 2 works with vista? i tested the beta
> 1
> & it would not with vista and i kinda gave up after that.
>
> thanks for the posting, it was most thought provoking.
>
> regards
> roly
>
> "deebs" wrote:
>
>> I'd say that one machine set aside for development work would seem
>> reasonable.
>>
>> The machine should be clearly explained as a developmental one in which
>> colleagues willing to participate should feel no compulsion to do so.
>> In other words, it it is left alone that will be fine, if a queue arises
>> to use it then they have to be tolerant.
>>
>> If this meets the approval of governors and senior managers a beta of
>> Office 2007 should also be installed in my opinion.
>>
>> The idea is to let those whom wish to blossom: blossom with no
>> disrespect to those more cautious of newer technologies.
>>
>> It should not be a mission critical machine. So for example, if it goes
>> belly up, no one should fume.
>>
>> Go for it!
>>
>> You may also wish to install a CTP of Expression graphic designer
>>
>> (see
>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan.pl...21b/NB21b.html
>>
>> if you wish and seek to be more adventurous)
>>

Hi Roly

I'm glad you posted as my second post above was a bit strong (please
excuse it along the lines of there is a wider audience in which
maintaining standards is important)

Office 2007 beta on Vista beta 2 64 bit (build 5384) runs very sweet
indeed. it seems a fresh install is better than an upgrade but on
networked computers ... It may be a good idea to contact Microsoft UK
just in case (there seems to be an early adopters thing on the go so
possibly room for reasonable compromise/arrangements?)

The trouble is that I think Office 2007 beta expires in December
(learner colleagues in this NG to advise?) But even then it gives a
September - December appreciation window for colleagues at your school
should all/some/any be willing to give the newer technologies a go.

I really would advise against a global install. One computer is enough
and it will/may give you (plural) some insights into how UAC/UAP works
or may work in Vista.

Can the computer handle a 64 bit OS or is it constrained to 32 bits?

I guess MS has a lot of contacts in the UK but .. well, who knows?

I am sure people will be quite thrilled/threatened at seeing a
developmental machine after returning to the new academic year?

By the way, Expression Graphics Designer and it's close relative
Expression 3 will work on XP but it is better to leave that to a
developmental machine possibly one and the same?

I have an online learner who should have had Office 200/2003 on her
computer BEFORE enrolling but slipped through the pre-enrolment
counselling session.

She was not able to afford even the academic variant of Office so
downloaded the Office 2007 beta.

It looks as if she is going to complete a 9 months course in about 3 months.

Please pass my compliments on to the Office 2007 team.

(Adult Level 1 introduction to IT course)

hi deebs,

don't give it a second thought. your original post gave me a few ideas to
mull over especially the expressions which i hadn't heard of before.

i think i'm just gonna go for it, 1 x vista machine with office 2007 & see
what the reaction is like. whatever happens, we have a rolling renewal
programme and, probably in march, we should get some machines with vista
preloaded on it. so it is coming, i just wanna introduce them to it gently.
any of the luddites out there can choose to avoid it but for those who are
interested, it should offer a nice little distraction.

i don't actually take up this role til monday, 21st august 2006, so i'm not
sure what platform the mnachines are but if they are 64-bit machines, my copy
of vista came with a 64-bit version. so i might just go the whole hog & whack
that on to see what happens. whatever happens it;ll be a learning experience
for us all.

regards
roly

"deebs" wrote:

> Hi Roly
>
> I'm glad you posted as my second post above was a bit strong (please
> excuse it along the lines of there is a wider audience in which
> maintaining standards is important)
>
> Office 2007 beta on Vista beta 2 64 bit (build 5384) runs very sweet
> indeed. it seems a fresh install is better than an upgrade but on
> networked computers ... It may be a good idea to contact Microsoft UK
> just in case (there seems to be an early adopters thing on the go so
> possibly room for reasonable compromise/arrangements?)
>
> The trouble is that I think Office 2007 beta expires in December
> (learner colleagues in this NG to advise?) But even then it gives a
> September - December appreciation window for colleagues at your school
> should all/some/any be willing to give the newer technologies a go.
>
> I really would advise against a global install. One computer is enough
> and it will/may give you (plural) some insights into how UAC/UAP works
> or may work in Vista.
>
> Can the computer handle a 64 bit OS or is it constrained to 32 bits?
>
> I guess MS has a lot of contacts in the UK but .. well, who knows?
>
> I am sure people will be quite thrilled/threatened at seeing a
> developmental machine after returning to the new academic year?
>
> By the way, Expression Graphics Designer and it's close relative
> Expression 3 will work on XP but it is better to leave that to a
> developmental machine possibly one and the same?
>

hi deebs,

what do you do and where do you do it?

"deebs" wrote:

> I have an online learner who should have had Office 200/2003 on her
> computer BEFORE enrolling but slipped through the pre-enrolment
> counselling session.
>
> She was not able to afford even the academic variant of Office so
> downloaded the Office 2007 beta.
>
> It looks as if she is going to complete a 9 months course in about 3 months.
>
> Please pass my compliments on to the Office 2007 team.
>
> (Adult Level 1 introduction to IT course)
>