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Old 03-06-2008   #1 (permalink)
Rich


 
 

Vista Reboots Wired Router At Start-Up & Shutdown

Greetings,
I bought my 2 kids new E-Machine computers for Christmas running Vista. They
are part of my home network of 4 computers (the other 2 run XP). I gave up
trying to see other computers in the network from the Vista machines since
it is more important that I see & control all computers from my XP box which
I can (btw, I am not a novice at networking. I set up this network since
Windows 98 days). Anyway, the point of this post is that whenever one of the
Vista machine is turned on or off, my SMC wired router reboots. My wife
can't handle any computer/network glitches (I just try to fix them) & my 10
year old son freaks out if he is in the middle of a critical point of an
online game & gets knocked off. Also, I occasionally get a call at work from
my wife at home stating that the internet does not work whereby I must walk
her through rebooting the router & sometimes the cable modem.
Regarding the main point of this post, has anyone experienced the router
rebooting thing & know if it can be remedied? Also, does anyone have any
insight as to why the Vista boxes cannot see other computers on the network
(they can see the router & their own computer only)? It seems odd that XP
computers can see all computers (both XP & Vista), but Vista can't see
anything but themselves. All XP machines have sharing fully enabled & all
computers are listed in the router table & access the internet.
Thanks.

Rich



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Old 03-06-2008   #2 (permalink)
Mick Murphy


 
 

RE: Vista Reboots Wired Router At Start-Up & Shutdown

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.

Permissions/Share info is there as well.

If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
from an XP computer.

Also, run the XP’s Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include
Vista in your “New” Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to
adding a Vista computer to it.

--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"Rich" wrote:

Quote:

> Thanks.
>
> Rich
>
>
>
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Old 03-07-2008   #3 (permalink)
Cameron Snyder


 
 

Re: Vista Reboots Wired Router At Start-Up & Shutdown

I hate to be simple but it seems plain: dump the router. You should be able
to blow up one of your machines and have it totally disintegrate without
affecting your router. $50--spend it.


"Rich" <rgsrx@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1J2Aj.11700$CD7.4905@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Greetings,
> I bought my 2 kids new E-Machine computers for Christmas running Vista.
> They are part of my home network of 4 computers (the other 2 run XP). I
> gave up trying to see other computers in the network from the Vista
> machines since it is more important that I see & control all computers
> from my XP box which I can (btw, I am not a novice at networking. I set up
> this network since Windows 98 days). Anyway, the point of this post is
> that whenever one of the Vista machine is turned on or off, my SMC wired
> router reboots. My wife can't handle any computer/network glitches (I just
> try to fix them) & my 10 year old son freaks out if he is in the middle of
> a critical point of an online game & gets knocked off. Also, I
> occasionally get a call at work from my wife at home stating that the
> internet does not work whereby I must walk her through rebooting the
> router & sometimes the cable modem.
> Regarding the main point of this post, has anyone experienced the router
> rebooting thing & know if it can be remedied? Also, does anyone have any
> insight as to why the Vista boxes cannot see other computers on the
> network (they can see the router & their own computer only)? It seems odd
> that XP computers can see all computers (both XP & Vista), but Vista can't
> see anything but themselves. All XP machines have sharing fully enabled &
> all computers are listed in the router table & access the internet.
> Thanks.
>
> Rich
>
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Old 03-07-2008   #4 (permalink)
the wharf rat


 
 

Re: Vista Reboots Wired Router At Start-Up & Shutdown

In article <1J2Aj.11700$CD7.4905@xxxxxx>, Rich <rgsrx@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>
>Vista machine is turned on or off, my SMC wired router reboots. My wife
Disable receive window auto-tuning and uPnp.

netsh interface tcp set global autotuninglevel=disabled
(level=normal returns it to default settings)

Disable the uPNP service via control panel.


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Old 03-23-2008   #5 (permalink)
Rich


 
 

Re: Vista Reboots Wired Router At Start-Up & Shutdown


"Mick Murphy" <MickMurphy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:A7B182F8-3A2E-4897-86A8-0F9442019E07@xxxxxx
Quote:

> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
>
> Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.
>
> Permissions/Share info is there as well.
>
> If using Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro I.S., make sure file and printer
> sharing is enabled in THEIR firewall.
>
> 1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers
> is
> the SAME.
>
> In Vista Network and Sharing:
>
> Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)
>
> Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)
>
> File Sharing: ON
>
> Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista's Public Folder is the same as XP's
> Shared
> Docs)
>
> Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
> passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
> asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
> from an XP computer.
>
> Also, run the XP's Home Network File and Printer Sharing Wizard to include
> Vista in your "New" Network, even if you had an XP Network set up prior to
> adding a Vista computer to it.
>
> --
> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>
>
> "Rich" wrote:
>
>
Quote:

>> Thanks.
>>
>> Rich
>>
>>
>>
Mick,
Sorry I took so long to reply to thank you for responding to my Vista issue.
I downloaded the multi-paged troubleshooting steps of setting up networking
on Vista computers & set it aside as a future project as I could see all
computers on my home network from my XP machine which was more important
than my children "seeing" the rest of the network. When the SP1 update was
released I cautiously installed it on my daughter's computer with my fingers
crossed. All went OK & I held my breath as I launched IE to make sure she
had internet access. She did & all was good with the universe. Since my son
had the identical computer set-up, I promptly updated his computer without
incident.
What does this long-winded post have to do with my Vista networking problem?
Well, just for the hell of it, I launched Windows Explorer & lo & behold,
both Vista machines now have full access to the home network with no
intervention on my part other than updating with SP1.
Oh yeah, I previously fixed the router rebooting problem by de-selecting
UPnP in the router set up window.
Thanks for the help.

Regards,
Rich


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