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Old 03-14-2008   #11 (permalink)


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Re: Data Recovery Options

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Synapse Syndrome View Post
"dzomlija" <dzomlija.368xmf@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> andy;645772 Wrote:
>
> Thanks, SS, I'm looking into it now. But the one for which you provided
> the link has only 2 e-Sata ports. I need at least 3 SATA RAID ports that
> can be configured as JBOD. Thier product ID 2667 looks to be a better
> selection.
OK, but I did not post that link.

The card you mention,
For only $18.48 each when QTY 50+ purchased - 4 Port SATA Serial ATA PCI RAID Controller Card - Silicon Image | Serial ATA Controller Card
is PCI and not PCIe, which would be preferable though. I'm not totally
sure, but if you using three or four drive simultaneously (in RAID-0, for
example) the PCI bus might not have enough bandwidth for the fastest
possible operation. It won't be an issue with JBOD though, and only with
RAID-0. I could be wrong though, and it might not be relevant to your use
of the card.

ss.

Heck, all I really want is something that I can use to re-connect the 3 hard disk back into a JBOD array (without wiping the existing data) so that I can recover the 10% or so that does not exist on backups.

After that, JBOD is going onto my "not-do-to-list". I've learned my lesson - It's just not worth the aggravation! How many Titanics had to sink before people learned there was not enough lifeboats on any ships? 1.

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Old 03-14-2008   #12 (permalink)
Synapse Syndrome


 
 

Re: Data Recovery Options

"dzomlija" <dzomlija.369h2a@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> Heck, all I really want is something that I can use to re-connect the 3
> hard disk back into a JBOD array (without wiping the existing data) so
> that I can recover the 10% or so that does not exist on backups.
Then that PCI card miht be better, as the chip is likely to be older, like
your old motherboard. If the card has the same model controller chip as the
motherboard, it is sure to work.
Quote:

> After that, JBOD is going onto my "not-do-to-list". I've learned my
> lesson - It's just not worth the aggravation! How many Titanics had to
> sink before people learned there was not enough lifeboats on any ships?
> 1.
I think RAID-0 is too much hassle as well, and I will not be using it in my
next build, which will not be for a while (I'll wait for Windows 7). Also,
WD Raptor drives are just too noisy, especially in RAID-0.

ss.


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Old 03-14-2008   #13 (permalink)
Synapse Syndrome


 
 

Re: Data Recovery Options

"dzomlija" <dzomlija.366932@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>
> My computer (despite the presence of a UPS) was killed by an extreme
> power surge last week Tuesday during a thunder storm, which is very
> common in my area.
Although this sort of thing is very rare in London, I have a power-strip
that is supposed to stop this from happening, and it is guaranteed to work.
If not, the manufacturers will pay up to £25,000 to replace my equipment.
Surely they have these things there too?

ss.


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Old 03-14-2008   #14 (permalink)


Windows 7 RC
 
 

Re: Data Recovery Options

I found an option for data recovery software, which may duplicate what you already have, but since it hasn't been mentioned, I thought I'd post it for you anyway.

It's a commercial product, but has "preview" version that will allow you to see what files it can recover, then if you want to use the software to recover the files, then they want you to purchase it.

I hope this helps. Here's the link: Data Recovery Software to Undelete; File recovery; Disk recovery; Recover Deleted Files
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Old 03-14-2008   #15 (permalink)


Windows Vista x64 Ultimate
 
 

Re: Data Recovery Options

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by .Joe View Post
I found an option for data recovery software, which may duplicate what you already have, but since it hasn't been mentioned, I thought I'd post it for you anyway.

It's a commercial product, but has "preview" version that will allow you to see what files it can recover, then if you want to use the software to recover the files, then they want you to purchase it.

I hope this helps. Here's the link: Data Recovery Software to Undelete; File recovery; Disk recovery; Recover Deleted Files
Thanks Joe.

I'm downloading the trial now, and will have a look see next weekend. The insurance will be paying out only on Wednesday, so I'll be getting my new motherboard, cpu, etc. only on Thursday or Friday.

It amazing how it takes one little disaster like this to give us all a decent wake-up call. And here I was thinking that a weekly backup regimen was enough. Guess not, huh?
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Old 03-14-2008   #16 (permalink)


Windows 7 RC
 
 

Re: Data Recovery Options

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by dzomlija View Post
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by .Joe View Post
I found an option for data recovery software, which may duplicate what you already have, but since it hasn't been mentioned, I thought I'd post it for you anyway.

It's a commercial product, but has "preview" version that will allow you to see what files it can recover, then if you want to use the software to recover the files, then they want you to purchase it.

I hope this helps. Here's the link: Data Recovery Software to Undelete; File recovery; Disk recovery; Recover Deleted Files
Thanks Joe.

I'm downloading the trial now, and will have a look see next weekend. The insurance will be paying out only on Wednesday, so I'll be getting my new motherboard, cpu, etc. only on Thursday or Friday.

It amazing how it takes one little disaster like this to give us all a decent wake-up call. And here I was thinking that a weekly backup regimen was enough. Guess not, huh?
Peter,

Best of luck with your recovery. I'm still in the "spike protection power strip" and weekly backup (to an external USB drive) mode. Seriously considering getting a UPS to go between the power strip and the PC. Maybe I'll go to twice a week backups. I'm using a commercial imaging software which has already saved me once. But in the event of a major failure due to mother nature, I'm not so sure that my one and only external USB drive is enough. I'm thinking going to a second external USB drive, which is completely disconnected from everything when not in use. That way my backup to the backup will be insulated from any causes from mother nature. Thanks for sharing your situation with us.
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Old 03-14-2008   #17 (permalink)
DL


 
 

Re: Data Recovery Options

I'd be extremely surprised if any recovery software recovered anything from
a jbod set, when it sees only individual disks
"dzomlija" <dzomlija.369nb0@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> Joe;646420 Wrote:
Quote:

>> I found an option for data recovery software, which may duplicate what
>> you already have, but since it hasn't been mentioned, I thought I'd post
>> it for you anyway.
>>
>> It's a commercial product, but has "preview" version that will allow
>> you to see what files it can recover, then if you want to use the
>> software to recover the files, then they want you to purchase it.
>>
>> I hope this helps. Here's the link: 'Data Recovery Software to
>> Undelete; File recovery; Disk recovery; Recover Deleted Files'
>> (http://www.recovermyfiles.com/)
>
> Thanks Joe.
>
> I'm downloading the trial now, and will have a look see next weekend.
> The insurance will be paying out only on Wednesday, so I'll be getting
> my new motherboard, cpu, etc. only on Thursday or Friday.
>
> It amazing how it takes one little disaster like this to give us all a
> decent wake-up call. And here I was thinking that a weekly backup
> regimen was enough. Guess not, huh?
>
>
> --
> dzomlija
>
> _____________________
> Peter Alexander Dzomlija
> -Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
> you die, so shall I be Reborn...-
>
> -U--nfortunately, my rig (As seen in
> Show us your rig)
> went south thanks to mother nature and a lightning bolt to the mains
> supply that my UPS could not stop. Now I'm just waiting for the
> insurance payout, so I can build a new machine.-'
> ' (http://s229.photobucket.com/albums/e...zomlija/Venus/)

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Old 03-14-2008   #18 (permalink)
andy


 
 

Re: Data Recovery Options

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:50:07 -0500, dzomlija
<dzomlija.368xmf@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote:
Quote:

>
>andy;645772 Wrote:
Quote:

>> Try using this card: PCI Express Serial ATA II (SATA II) Card, 2x
>> External Port (e-SATA), SiI3132 Chipset
>> <http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10407&cs_id=1040702&p_id=3581&seq=1&format=2>
>
>Thanks, SS, I'm looking into it now. But the one for which you provided
>the link has only 2 e-Sata ports. I need at least 3 SATA RAID ports that
>can be configured as JBOD. Thier product ID 2667 looks to be a better
>selection.
Something does not add up. You said you used the onboard SiI SATA
interface, but according to the A8N32-SLI Deluxe manual, the SiI 3132
controller provides only two connectors, one internal and one
external, and supports RAID 0 and RAID 1 configurations.

Sounds like you were using the NVIDIA® nForce4 SLI, which provides
four connectors and supports NVRAID for RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 0+1, RAID
5, and JBOD configuration that spans across Serial ATA drives.
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Old 03-14-2008   #19 (permalink)
Synapse Syndrome


 
 

Re: Data Recovery Options

"DL" <address@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> I'd be extremely surprised if any recovery software recovered anything
> from a jbod set, when it sees only individual disks

Why would you be extremely surprised? There is no striping involved, and
the data is concatenated together. Look at the diagram:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JBOD#Co...BOD_or_SPAN.29

In fact, from reading more about it, he can probably recover *all* of the
data.

ss.


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Old 03-14-2008   #20 (permalink)
Ken Blake, MVP


 
 

Re: Data Recovery Options

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:12:14 -0000, "Synapse Syndrome"
<synapse@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> "dzomlija" <dzomlija.366932@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
> news:dzomlija.366932@xxxxxx-mx.forums.net...
Quote:

> >
> > My computer (despite the presence of a UPS) was killed by an extreme
> > power surge last week Tuesday during a thunder storm, which is very
> > common in my area.
>
> Although this sort of thing is very rare in London, I have a power-strip
> that is supposed to stop this from happening, and it is guaranteed to work.
> If not, the manufacturers will pay up to £25,000 to replace my equipment.
> Surely they have these things there too?


Note that the risk of the manufacturer having to pay you anything
substantial is very slim. First, computer equipment rapidly loses
value, so it's very unlikely that the depreciated value of your
equipment is anywhere near £25,000.

Second, and most important, the biggest value of what you might lose
is typically your data. And they'll pay you nothing for that.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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