Vista - Re: Recent Update Problems

(cross-post added to Vista General)
"Steve W." <SteveW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ABD4E87E-9E63-4E9A-AD7B-789D0FF8B73D@microsoft.com
....
> I am wondering if I update to a newer build of vista from b2
> if that would fix the problem.


Sorry, I don't use Vista. I should have taken the cue from PA Bear's post
and either not replied or cross-posted too (doing so now.)


> that last picture I posted, I was trying to go to espn.com(espn.go.com)
> and it said trying to open espn_go_com


That could be normal. The message could be showing you the filename
that the HTML document would be saved under in the TIF.

However, FiddlerTool shows that

http://espn.go.com/

is marked no-cache and (in XPsp2 IE7b3) Alt-T,O,Alt-S,V confirms that
the page's HTML body is not in the TIF. So what it would really be showing
you is wherever Vista stores it (temporarily) while the HTML is being rendered.


I would try running FileMon, filtering on espn;.htm;.xml (and hightlight .htm)
to try to gain more insight on the symptom.

Hmm... I just tried that with XPsp2 IE7b3 and the only thing that showed up
was something called index[2].htm and it's not long enough.
E.g. FiddlerTool shows that the length of the HTML to be received
would be Content-Length: 148384

In any case, FileMon might still be able to capture the error for you
and perhaps give it a different interpretation.


Good luck

Robert
---


> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
>
>> "Steve W." <SteveW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:185339CC-CF19-4B15-B1C8-C3D49F43B108@microsoft.com
>> ....
>> > http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1717/error3pp9.jpg
>>
>> > [image of Security Warning: ... Unknown file type]
>>
>>
>> This could involve the security option:
>>
>> Open files based on content, not file extension
>> (in Security Settings, Miscellaneous section)
>>
>> Default is Enable which means that besides looking at the Content-Type
>> header (if any) the first few bytes of the file will be "sniffed" to try to see
>> if it looks like what it is says it is supposed to be (or is assumed to be).
>>
>> OTOH since that default procedure works well for most users
>> another implication of your symptom may be that the data is being
>> corrupted in some way, so then identifying and removing that cause would be
>> needed for a resolution. In that case, disabling any unnecessary third-party
>> programs used on the communications path (e.g. firewall) and testing
>> for an MTU size problem (ref. KB314825) might help. Make sure that
>> you leave the Windows firewall active if you try this.
>>
>> FYI others in the past discovered HTML rendering issues were probably
>> caused by a particular version of Zone Alarm Pro; that would be a related
>> symptom.
>>
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Robert Aldwinckle
>> ---
>>
>>
>>
>
> Well I tried the Based on content and that just made it take a little longer
> to pop up.
>
> As for any software firewall, I do not use any of that. I have a hardware one.
>
> The interesting thing is I can not roll back any updates to see if it fixes
> it. I thought it was possibly a virus and nothing. I am wondering if I update
> to a newer build of vista from b2 if that would fix the problem. Is there
> anything that I can possibly do instead of trying to get a hold of a newer
> build. I mean that last picture I posted, I was trying to go to
> espn.com(espn.go.com) and it said trying to open espn_go_com. Does that ring
> a bell anywhere that I could be a registry setting, or could this be a side
> effect of any of vista's security settings? I mean if I have to disable all
> the security settings that would be fine.
>
> And let me thank you for responding.
>
> --Steve

Wierd either version I try to run I get this error

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6770/error4za9.jpg

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> (cross-post added to Vista General)
> "Steve W." <SteveW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ABD4E87E-9E63-4E9A-AD7B-789D0FF8B73D@microsoft.com
> ....
> > I am wondering if I update to a newer build of vista from b2
> > if that would fix the problem.
>
>
> Sorry, I don't use Vista. I should have taken the cue from PA Bear's post
> and either not replied or cross-posted too (doing so now.)
>
>
> > that last picture I posted, I was trying to go to espn.com(espn.go.com)
> > and it said trying to open espn_go_com
>
>
> That could be normal. The message could be showing you the filename
> that the HTML document would be saved under in the TIF.
>
> However, FiddlerTool shows that
>
> http://espn.go.com/
>
> is marked no-cache and (in XPsp2 IE7b3) Alt-T,O,Alt-S,V confirms that
> the page's HTML body is not in the TIF. So what it would really be showing
> you is wherever Vista stores it (temporarily) while the HTML is being rendered.
>
>
> I would try running FileMon, filtering on espn;.htm;.xml (and hightlight .htm)
> to try to gain more insight on the symptom.
>
> Hmm... I just tried that with XPsp2 IE7b3 and the only thing that showed up
> was something called index[2].htm and it's not long enough.
> E.g. FiddlerTool shows that the length of the HTML to be received
> would be Content-Length: 148384
>
> In any case, FileMon might still be able to capture the error for you
> and perhaps give it a different interpretation.
>
>
> Good luck
>
> Robert
> ---
>
>
> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
> >
> >> "Steve W." <SteveW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:185339CC-CF19-4B15-B1C8-C3D49F43B108@microsoft.com
> >> ....
> >> > http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1717/error3pp9.jpg
> >>
> >> > [image of Security Warning: ... Unknown file type]
> >>
> >>
> >> This could involve the security option:
> >>
> >> Open files based on content, not file extension
> >> (in Security Settings, Miscellaneous section)
> >>
> >> Default is Enable which means that besides looking at the Content-Type
> >> header (if any) the first few bytes of the file will be "sniffed" to try to see
> >> if it looks like what it is says it is supposed to be (or is assumed to be).
> >>
> >> OTOH since that default procedure works well for most users
> >> another implication of your symptom may be that the data is being
> >> corrupted in some way, so then identifying and removing that cause would be
> >> needed for a resolution. In that case, disabling any unnecessary third-party
> >> programs used on the communications path (e.g. firewall) and testing
> >> for an MTU size problem (ref. KB314825) might help. Make sure that
> >> you leave the Windows firewall active if you try this.
> >>
> >> FYI others in the past discovered HTML rendering issues were probably
> >> caused by a particular version of Zone Alarm Pro; that would be a related
> >> symptom.
> >>
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >> Robert Aldwinckle
> >> ---
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Well I tried the Based on content and that just made it take a little longer
> > to pop up.
> >
> > As for any software firewall, I do not use any of that. I have a hardware one.
> >
> > The interesting thing is I can not roll back any updates to see if it fixes
> > it. I thought it was possibly a virus and nothing. I am wondering if I update
> > to a newer build of vista from b2 if that would fix the problem. Is there
> > anything that I can possibly do instead of trying to get a hold of a newer
> > build. I mean that last picture I posted, I was trying to go to
> > espn.com(espn.go.com) and it said trying to open espn_go_com. Does that ring
> > a bell anywhere that I could be a registry setting, or could this be a side
> > effect of any of vista's security settings? I mean if I have to disable all
> > the security settings that would be fine.
> >
> > And let me thank you for responding.
> >
> > --Steve
>
>
>

"Steve W." <SteveW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CB19B074-3859-4160-9273-F6B701D81DD8@microsoft.com
....
>> I would try running FileMon, filtering on espn;.htm;.xml (and hightlight .htm)
>> to try to gain more insight on the symptom.


> Wierd either version I try to run I get this error
>
> http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6770/error4za9.jpg

<transcription>
Error loading FILEMON701: The hash for the image cannot be found
in the system catalogs. The image is likely corrupt or the victim of tampering.
</transcription>


Is this just Vista's (longwinded) way of saying "File not found?" <eg>

Do you have FileMon installed? Where did you get it?

FYI it's a freeware utility from SysInternals.


HTH

Robert
---

I downloaded it from a google search @

http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/Filemon.html

--Steve

"Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:

> "Steve W." <SteveW@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CB19B074-3859-4160-9273-F6B701D81DD8@microsoft.com
> ....
> >> I would try running FileMon, filtering on espn;.htm;.xml (and hightlight .htm)
> >> to try to gain more insight on the symptom.
>
>
> > Wierd either version I try to run I get this error
> >
> > http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6770/error4za9.jpg
>
> <transcription>
> Error loading FILEMON701: The hash for the image cannot be found
> in the system catalogs. The image is likely corrupt or the victim of tampering.
> </transcription>
>
>
> Is this just Vista's (longwinded) way of saying "File not found?" <eg>
>
> Do you have FileMon installed? Where did you get it?
>
> FYI it's a freeware utility from SysInternals.
>
>
> HTH
>
> Robert
> ---
>
>
>