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Installing Vista with included SP1
  1. #1


    C.B. Guest

    Installing Vista with included SP1

    In late February of 2007 I purchased a new computer with Vista Premium
    x86 preinstalled. The Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD was included with the
    computer. In late February of 2007 I also purchased the retail Vista
    Ultimate Upgrade DVDs from OfficeMax and did a clean x86 install from boot
    using the retail DVD.
    I would like to uninstall my Vista Ultimate and reinstall it with SP1
    already integrated within the OS. I always like to install an OS with the
    service pack already included within the install as opposed to downloading
    and installing the service pack into an existing installed OS. Personally, I
    feel this is always the best way to go although many people think otherwise.
    Is there a way for me to do this using the Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD?
    It has never been used before. Are the different versions of Vista actually
    on the Anytime Upgrade DVD or does the DVD "phone home" for the correct OS
    once the license key is provided? I've never had a need to use the Anytime
    Upgrade DVD so I am ignorant as to how it works. If I am indeed able to
    install Vista Ultimate SP1 by using the Anytime Upgrade DVD could I do it
    upon the release of SP1 on 03/18/2008 or would I have to wait until
    mid-April when it is released for automatic updates?
    If I cannot do this by using the Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD will
    Microsoft send me a new Ultimate DVD with SP1 already incorporated into the
    OS, provided I can show a valid license key, for a nominal charge (if so,
    how do I contact Microsoft?) or will I be expected to purchase an additional
    Vista Ultimate upgrade and pay the retail price for it? Of course, I don't
    intend to pay retail again for something I already have.
    If none of these scenarios are valid are there any other available
    avenues to accomplish what I wish, short of purchasing an additional
    Ultimate DVD with SP1 included? If not, I'll just leave everything as it is.
    I was offered SP1 through Windows Update two weeks ago, got tired of seeing
    it in WU available updates, got tired of not being able to remove it from
    Windows Update and finally decided to just install it a few days ago. I
    checked it after I installed it and ended up with:
    6.0.6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840 (according to TweakVista assessment). It
    shows up elsewhere on my system as Service Pack 1 (Control Panel, System)
    and as 6.0.6001.18000 (command prompt). I've been told that this is the
    actual SP1 RTM.
    Thank you for your time and any assistance provided.

    C.B.


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  2. #2


    Carey Frisch [MVP] Guest

    Re: Installing Vista with included SP1

    The Anytime Upgrade disc is designed to upgrade from
    one edition of Vista to a different edition. It requires
    the purchase of a "retail product key" and will not work
    with the OEM Vista product key affixed to your computer.

    Anytime Upgrade FAQ:
    http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...41b981033.mspx

    I would recommend downloading SP1 from the Windows
    Update site when it becomes available. It will perform
    equally well. Build 6.0.6001.18000 is the final version
    of SP1 and it appears you already have it installed. You do
    not have to do anything further.

    --
    Carey Frisch
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows Shell/User

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    "C.B." wrote:

    In late February of 2007 I purchased a new computer with Vista Premium
    x86 preinstalled. The Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD was included with the
    computer. In late February of 2007 I also purchased the retail Vista
    Ultimate Upgrade DVDs from OfficeMax and did a clean x86 install from boot
    using the retail DVD.
    I would like to uninstall my Vista Ultimate and reinstall it with SP1
    already integrated within the OS. I always like to install an OS with the
    service pack already included within the install as opposed to downloading
    and installing the service pack into an existing installed OS. Personally, I
    feel this is always the best way to go although many people think otherwise.
    Is there a way for me to do this using the Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD?
    It has never been used before. Are the different versions of Vista actually
    on the Anytime Upgrade DVD or does the DVD "phone home" for the correct OS
    once the license key is provided? I've never had a need to use the Anytime
    Upgrade DVD so I am ignorant as to how it works. If I am indeed able to
    install Vista Ultimate SP1 by using the Anytime Upgrade DVD could I do it
    upon the release of SP1 on 03/18/2008 or would I have to wait until
    mid-April when it is released for automatic updates?
    If I cannot do this by using the Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD will
    Microsoft send me a new Ultimate DVD with SP1 already incorporated into the
    OS, provided I can show a valid license key, for a nominal charge (if so,
    how do I contact Microsoft?) or will I be expected to purchase an additional
    Vista Ultimate upgrade and pay the retail price for it? Of course, I don't
    intend to pay retail again for something I already have.
    If none of these scenarios are valid are there any other available
    avenues to accomplish what I wish, short of purchasing an additional
    Ultimate DVD with SP1 included? If not, I'll just leave everything as it is.
    I was offered SP1 through Windows Update two weeks ago, got tired of seeing
    it in WU available updates, got tired of not being able to remove it from
    Windows Update and finally decided to just install it a few days ago. I
    checked it after I installed it and ended up with:
    6.0.6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840 (according to TweakVista assessment). It
    shows up elsewhere on my system as Service Pack 1 (Control Panel, System)
    and as 6.0.6001.18000 (command prompt). I've been told that this is the
    actual SP1 RTM.
    Thank you for your time and any assistance provided.

    C.B.


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    Re: Installing Vista with included SP1

    All my system says Build 6001:Service Pack 1

    Does that mean that mean that I need to update it to whatever the new SP1 will be when it comes out tomorrow?

    Thanks
    Brian

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  4. #4


    C.B. Guest

    Re: Installing Vista with included SP1

    Mr. Frisch,

    Thank you for your assistance. However, there is something I don't
    understand about your answer. I purchased the retail Vista Ultimate upgrade
    DVDs from OfficeMax. The OEM Vista Home Premium was replaced by the retail
    Vista Ultimate upgrade DVD, which has a retail product key. I cannot use the
    Ultimate retail product key with the Anytime Upgrade DVD?
    Again, thank you for your time and assistance.

    C.B.


    --
    It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged
    and unfortunate among us.

    "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:ev0lrRIiIHA.1208@xxxxxx

    > The Anytime Upgrade disc is designed to upgrade from
    > one edition of Vista to a different edition. It requires
    > the purchase of a "retail product key" and will not work
    > with the OEM Vista product key affixed to your computer.
    >
    > Anytime Upgrade FAQ:
    > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...41b981033.mspx
    >
    > I would recommend downloading SP1 from the Windows
    > Update site when it becomes available. It will perform
    > equally well. Build 6.0.6001.18000 is the final version
    > of SP1 and it appears you already have it installed. You do
    > not have to do anything further.
    >
    > --
    > Carey Frisch
    > Microsoft MVP
    > Windows Shell/User
    >
    > ---------------------------------------------------------------
    >
    > "C.B." wrote:
    >
    > In late February of 2007 I purchased a new computer with Vista Premium
    > x86 preinstalled. The Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD was included with the
    > computer. In late February of 2007 I also purchased the retail Vista
    > Ultimate Upgrade DVDs from OfficeMax and did a clean x86 install from boot
    > using the retail DVD.
    > I would like to uninstall my Vista Ultimate and reinstall it with SP1
    > already integrated within the OS. I always like to install an OS with the
    > service pack already included within the install as opposed to downloading
    > and installing the service pack into an existing installed OS. Personally,
    > I
    > feel this is always the best way to go although many people think
    > otherwise.
    > Is there a way for me to do this using the Windows Anytime Upgrade
    > DVD?
    > It has never been used before. Are the different versions of Vista
    > actually
    > on the Anytime Upgrade DVD or does the DVD "phone home" for the correct OS
    > once the license key is provided? I've never had a need to use the Anytime
    > Upgrade DVD so I am ignorant as to how it works. If I am indeed able to
    > install Vista Ultimate SP1 by using the Anytime Upgrade DVD could I do it
    > upon the release of SP1 on 03/18/2008 or would I have to wait until
    > mid-April when it is released for automatic updates?
    > If I cannot do this by using the Windows Anytime Upgrade DVD will
    > Microsoft send me a new Ultimate DVD with SP1 already incorporated into
    > the
    > OS, provided I can show a valid license key, for a nominal charge (if so,
    > how do I contact Microsoft?) or will I be expected to purchase an
    > additional
    > Vista Ultimate upgrade and pay the retail price for it? Of course, I don't
    > intend to pay retail again for something I already have.
    > If none of these scenarios are valid are there any other available
    > avenues to accomplish what I wish, short of purchasing an additional
    > Ultimate DVD with SP1 included? If not, I'll just leave everything as it
    > is.
    > I was offered SP1 through Windows Update two weeks ago, got tired of
    > seeing
    > it in WU available updates, got tired of not being able to remove it from
    > Windows Update and finally decided to just install it a few days ago. I
    > checked it after I installed it and ended up with:
    > 6.0.6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840 (according to TweakVista assessment). It
    > shows up elsewhere on my system as Service Pack 1 (Control Panel, System)
    > and as 6.0.6001.18000 (command prompt). I've been told that this is the
    > actual SP1 RTM.
    > Thank you for your time and any assistance provided.
    >
    > C.B.
    >
    >
    > --
    > It is the responsibility and duty of everyone to help the underprivileged
    > and unfortunate among us.
    >
    >
    >

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  5. #5


    kurttrail Guest

    Re: Installing Vista with included SP1

    C.B. wrote:

    > Mr. Frisch,
    >
    > Thank you for your assistance. However, there is something I don't
    > understand about your answer. I purchased the retail Vista Ultimate
    > upgrade DVDs from OfficeMax. The OEM Vista Home Premium was replaced by
    > the retail Vista Ultimate upgrade DVD, which has a retail product key. I
    > cannot use the Ultimate retail product key with the Anytime Upgrade DVD?
    > Again, thank you for your time and assistance.
    >
    > C.B.
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930733

    I found the above link on the page Carey gave you.

    Quote:

    Note Windows Anytime Upgrade is available on the following editions of
    Windows Vista:
    • Windows Vista Home Basic
    • Windows Vista Home Premium
    • Windows Vista Business
    • Windows Vista Home Basic N
    • Windows Vista Business N

    So I would guess that Ultimate isn't eligible.

    SP1 isn't technically an "upgrade" anyway.

    As for doing a clean install when new service packs come out, I do the
    same thing. However, there really shouldn't be a difference if you do a
    clean install with your present media, and then update to SP1 immediately
    afterwards.

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  6. #6


    C.B. Guest

    Re: Installing Vista with included SP1



    "kurttrail" <dontemailme@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:6_EDj.15655$rp.14871@xxxxxx

    > C.B. wrote:
    >

    >> Mr. Frisch,
    >>
    >> Thank you for your assistance. However, there is something I don't
    >> understand about your answer. I purchased the retail Vista Ultimate
    >> upgrade DVDs from OfficeMax. The OEM Vista Home Premium was replaced by
    >> the retail Vista Ultimate upgrade DVD, which has a retail product key. I
    >> cannot use the Ultimate retail product key with the Anytime Upgrade DVD?
    >> Again, thank you for your time and assistance.
    >>
    >> C.B.
    >
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/930733
    >
    > I found the above link on the page Carey gave you.
    >
    > Quote:
    >
    > Note Windows Anytime Upgrade is available on the following editions of
    > Windows Vista:
    > • Windows Vista Home Basic
    > • Windows Vista Home Premium
    > • Windows Vista Business
    > • Windows Vista Home Basic N
    > • Windows Vista Business N
    >
    > So I would guess that Ultimate isn't eligible.
    >
    > SP1 isn't technically an "upgrade" anyway.
    >
    > As for doing a clean install when new service packs come out, I do the
    > same thing. However, there really shouldn't be a difference if you do a
    > clean install with your present media, and then update to SP1 immediately
    > afterwards.
    >
    > --
    > Peace!
    > Kurt
    > Former Self-anointed Moderator
    > microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
    > "Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei!"
    > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/9307...microsoft.com/
    > kb/930733
    >
    Kurt,

    OK. I understand the Windows Anytime Upgrade now. It's apparently for
    upgrade use only as opposed to a clean install. I guess that option is gone.
    I realize SP1 isn't an upgrade. I was just trying to figure out a way
    to do a single clean install that already incorporated the SP1 within it.
    I'll just borrow a Vista Ultimate SP1 from someone when they are
    available, use that retail full or upgrade DVD and my Ultimate retail
    license key. Shouldn't be a problem as I always do a clean install from my
    Ultimate upgrade DVD.
    Anyway, I appreciate your reply.

    C.B.


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  7. #7


    Brian W Guest

    Re: Installing Vista with included SP1


    "kurttrail" <dontemailme@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:6_EDj.15655$rp.14871@xxxxxx

    >
    > As for doing a clean install when new service packs come out, I do the
    > same thing. However, there really shouldn't be a difference if you do a
    > clean install with your present media, and then update to SP1 immediately
    > afterwards.
    >
    I would suggest not turning on automatic updates after installing Vista,
    then install SP1, and then all your drivers. Then turn on the auto updates.
    This will prevent Vista from trying to install driver updates from Windows
    Update.


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