Vista - Vista and Norton

Just an FYI-

Saw a news story today saying Symantec is suing MS to stop Vista . Here's
the story:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/2006...hkBHNlYwMxNjk1

Jeff

To be honest, Symantec really won't get far in my honest opinion... it's far
too close to be halted... but we'll have to wait and see.

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"Jeff" <jeffwhat44@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Just an FYI-
>
> Saw a news story today saying Symantec is suing MS to stop Vista . Here's
> the story:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/2006...hkBHNlYwMxNjk1
>
> Jeff
>

Zack Whittaker wrote:
> To be honest, Symantec really won't get far in my honest opinion... it's far
> too close to be halted... but we'll have to wait and see.
>

There's a long history of these: Java, Stacker, ..

it was on nbc's business news this morning at 430 so it must be pretty big
news. The quote they used "Symantec is suing Microsoft in hopes of further
delaying the release of windows Vista." Would this delay the release of
windows Vista Beta 2 and Subsequent releases or just the RTM and Final?
"Mike Williams" <mikew@m-v-p-s.org.null> wrote in message
news:446E3F90.1070804@m-v-p-s.org.null...
> Zack Whittaker wrote:
>> To be honest, Symantec really won't get far in my honest opinion... it's
>> far too close to be halted... but we'll have to wait and see.
>>
>
> There's a long history of these: Java, Stacker, ..

Jeff wrote:
> Just an FYI-
>
> Saw a news story today saying Symantec is suing MS to stop Vista .
> Here's the story:

This is what, a look and feel case? Symantec have patented sucking hard
enough to pull a melon through a straw and are worried that Vista might
infringe?

If it goes through, it could greatly affect the release of Longhorn Server,
not Vista, my understanding is, the storage technology was licensed from
Symantec in 1996 and used in Windows 2000 Server and Server 2003. Its
supposed to be used in Longhorn Server also, what I can't understand is how
is it being used in an abusive way against Symantec when the technology is
still be licensed from them it seems.
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"michael e dziatkowicz" <mnmma@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> it was on nbc's business news this morning at 430 so it must be pretty big
> news. The quote they used "Symantec is suing Microsoft in hopes of further
> delaying the release of windows Vista." Would this delay the release of
> windows Vista Beta 2 and Subsequent releases or just the RTM and Final?
> "Mike Williams" <mikew@m-v-p-s.org.null> wrote in message
> news:446E3F90.1070804@m-v-p-s.org.null...
>> Zack Whittaker wrote:
>>> To be honest, Symantec really won't get far in my honest opinion... it's
>>> far too close to be halted... but we'll have to wait and see.
>>>
>>
>> There's a long history of these: Java, Stacker, ..
>
>

they didn't go into detail. I just figured it was about the fact that vista
was including security in it and norton was worried it would hurt it's
anti-virus and security software business. Although I noticed that Microsoft
actually recommends Norton Anti-Virus when you go through the security setup
procedure in Vista.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> If it goes through, it could greatly affect the release of Longhorn
> Server, not Vista, my understanding is, the storage technology was
> licensed from Symantec in 1996 and used in Windows 2000 Server and Server
> 2003. Its supposed to be used in Longhorn Server also, what I can't
> understand is how is it being used in an abusive way against Symantec when
> the technology is still be licensed from them it seems.
> --
> Andre
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> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> "michael e dziatkowicz" <mnmma@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ZuCdnYRfpOwkyvPZRVn-iA@comcast.com...
>> it was on nbc's business news this morning at 430 so it must be pretty
>> big news. The quote they used "Symantec is suing Microsoft in hopes of
>> further delaying the release of windows Vista." Would this delay the
>> release of windows Vista Beta 2 and Subsequent releases or just the RTM
>> and Final?
>> "Mike Williams" <mikew@m-v-p-s.org.null> wrote in message
>> news:446E3F90.1070804@m-v-p-s.org.null...
>>> Zack Whittaker wrote:
>>>> To be honest, Symantec really won't get far in my honest opinion...
>>>> it's far too close to be halted... but we'll have to wait and see.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There's a long history of these: Java, Stacker, ..
>>
>>
>
>

No, its about a storage technology licensed from Symantec in 1996 (actually
from Veritas, a Company Symantec recently purchased), nothing to do with
security. Well, it does not specifically recommend Norton AV, a notification
shows up in the notification area recommending you install a AntiVirus
utility immediately since you might be at risk.
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"michael e dziatkowicz" <mnmma@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4L2dnfbFmKyj9_PZRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
> they didn't go into detail. I just figured it was about the fact that
> vista was including security in it and norton was worried it would hurt
> it's anti-virus and security software business. Although I noticed that
> Microsoft actually recommends Norton Anti-Virus when you go through the
> security setup procedure in Vista.
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OUcwsQ6eGHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> If it goes through, it could greatly affect the release of Longhorn
>> Server, not Vista, my understanding is, the storage technology was
>> licensed from Symantec in 1996 and used in Windows 2000 Server and Server
>> 2003. Its supposed to be used in Longhorn Server also, what I can't
>> understand is how is it being used in an abusive way against Symantec
>> when the technology is still be licensed from them it seems.
>> --
>> Andre
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>> "michael e dziatkowicz" <mnmma@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:ZuCdnYRfpOwkyvPZRVn-iA@comcast.com...
>>> it was on nbc's business news this morning at 430 so it must be pretty
>>> big news. The quote they used "Symantec is suing Microsoft in hopes of
>>> further delaying the release of windows Vista." Would this delay the
>>> release of windows Vista Beta 2 and Subsequent releases or just the RTM
>>> and Final?
>>> "Mike Williams" <mikew@m-v-p-s.org.null> wrote in message
>>> news:446E3F90.1070804@m-v-p-s.org.null...
>>>> Zack Whittaker wrote:
>>>>> To be honest, Symantec really won't get far in my honest opinion...
>>>>> it's far too close to be halted... but we'll have to wait and see.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's a long history of these: Java, Stacker, ..
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Andre:

Another reason could be that a year after x64 was released
Symantec components still aren't compatible with or function with x64. Which
is a requirement when Vista is released.





"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ewKrwo6eGHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> No, its about a storage technology licensed from Symantec in 1996
> (actually from Veritas, a Company Symantec recently purchased), nothing to
> do with security. Well, it does not specifically recommend Norton AV, a
> notification shows up in the notification area recommending you install a
> AntiVirus utility immediately since you might be at risk.
> --
> Andre
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
> "michael e dziatkowicz" <mnmma@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:4L2dnfbFmKyj9_PZRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>> they didn't go into detail. I just figured it was about the fact that
>> vista was including security in it and norton was worried it would hurt
>> it's anti-virus and security software business. Although I noticed that
>> Microsoft actually recommends Norton Anti-Virus when you go through the
>> security setup procedure in Vista.
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OUcwsQ6eGHA.4892@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> If it goes through, it could greatly affect the release of Longhorn
>>> Server, not Vista, my understanding is, the storage technology was
>>> licensed from Symantec in 1996 and used in Windows 2000 Server and
>>> Server 2003. Its supposed to be used in Longhorn Server also, what I
>>> can't understand is how is it being used in an abusive way against
>>> Symantec when the technology is still be licensed from them it seems.
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>> "michael e dziatkowicz" <mnmma@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ZuCdnYRfpOwkyvPZRVn-iA@comcast.com...
>>>> it was on nbc's business news this morning at 430 so it must be pretty
>>>> big news. The quote they used "Symantec is suing Microsoft in hopes of
>>>> further delaying the release of windows Vista." Would this delay the
>>>> release of windows Vista Beta 2 and Subsequent releases or just the RTM
>>>> and Final?
>>>> "Mike Williams" <mikew@m-v-p-s.org.null> wrote in message
>>>> news:446E3F90.1070804@m-v-p-s.org.null...
>>>>> Zack Whittaker wrote:
>>>>>> To be honest, Symantec really won't get far in my honest opinion...
>>>>>> it's far too close to be halted... but we'll have to wait and see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a long history of these: Java, Stacker, ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"Which is a requirement when Vista is released."
Exactly what is a requirement?
Symantec being compatible with Vista?
Says who?

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"Dennis Pack x64, IE7B2" <dennispack@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Andre:
>
> Another reason could be that a year after x64 was released
> Symantec components still aren't compatible with or function with x64.
> Which is a requirement when Vista is released.