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Old 03-23-2008   #1 (permalink)
mcmcom


 
 

Vista constantly reboots into Startup Repair - boot options not av

hi all,
i have an HP Compaq 8710p laptop that is about 10 months old. For no
apparent reason yesterday it just froze up and when i re-started it it took
me directly into Startup Repair. Since then all it will do is boot up into
startup repair and fix the same issue, then re-start itself and go back into
startup repair, fixing the same issue over and over with no change.

For some reason i am unable to press F8 to bring up boot options screen
during load. And this is easily the most annoying part about the whole
situation. there is absolutely NO WAY to interrupt the boot options and get
a "selectable" list of boot options, for some reason it ONLY goes to Startup
repair.

Startup Repair never lasts too long at all only about 20 seconds each time.
The diagnostic code in the details is as follows: (this is the only problem
it detects)

Root cause found:
Boot Manager failed to find OS loader.
Repair action : File Repair
Result : Completed Successfully. Error code 0x0
Time taken = 13400 ms

So it states that it has fixed it but every time i restart it i get the same
issue. I cant boot from cd because of course HP in its infinite wisdom
decided to make this a "diskless" restore. Using their own branded software
to restore your computer - of course there are no restore points (as i
couldn't make them some software issue) so now im forced to restore this back
to factory settings (which i really dont want to do)

If anyone has any idea or had a similar problem like this please offer any
suggestions. FYI i am a seasoned MS Programmer with about 2 decades of
experience and in my lifetime i have never had such a hard time trying to fix
a computer. I mean comon, give me a command prompt or something. I find it
ridicolous that i cannot interrupt startup at any time!

tia,
mcm

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-23-2008   #2 (permalink)
John Barnes


 
 

Re: Vista constantly reboots into Startup Repair - boot options not av

Shift key and F10 may get you to a command prompt.



"mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:56EEDEA7-1F02-43F5-A8D4-C0AAE63834BB@xxxxxx
Quote:

> hi all,
> i have an HP Compaq 8710p laptop that is about 10 months old. For no
> apparent reason yesterday it just froze up and when i re-started it it
> took
> me directly into Startup Repair. Since then all it will do is boot up
> into
> startup repair and fix the same issue, then re-start itself and go back
> into
> startup repair, fixing the same issue over and over with no change.
>
> For some reason i am unable to press F8 to bring up boot options screen
> during load. And this is easily the most annoying part about the whole
> situation. there is absolutely NO WAY to interrupt the boot options and
> get
> a "selectable" list of boot options, for some reason it ONLY goes to
> Startup
> repair.
>
> Startup Repair never lasts too long at all only about 20 seconds each
> time.
> The diagnostic code in the details is as follows: (this is the only
> problem
> it detects)
>
> Root cause found:
> Boot Manager failed to find OS loader.
> Repair action : File Repair
> Result : Completed Successfully. Error code 0x0
> Time taken = 13400 ms
>
> So it states that it has fixed it but every time i restart it i get the
> same
> issue. I cant boot from cd because of course HP in its infinite wisdom
> decided to make this a "diskless" restore. Using their own branded
> software
> to restore your computer - of course there are no restore points (as i
> couldn't make them some software issue) so now im forced to restore this
> back
> to factory settings (which i really dont want to do)
>
> If anyone has any idea or had a similar problem like this please offer any
> suggestions. FYI i am a seasoned MS Programmer with about 2 decades of
> experience and in my lifetime i have never had such a hard time trying to
> fix
> a computer. I mean comon, give me a command prompt or something. I find
> it
> ridicolous that i cannot interrupt startup at any time!
>
> tia,
> mcm
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-23-2008   #3 (permalink)
mcmcom


 
 

Re: Vista constantly reboots into Startup Repair - boot options no

no dice on the Shift F10.
Spoke with HP Support. They say its a HD issue and i have to send it in for
servicing. Of course i have critical information regarding my work on this
hd and now have no way to recover it. I also got a vista CD from a friend
and attempted to do the Repair option from it. VIsta install was undetected
and i have no way to load drivers for my hard drive. So basically im
screwed because HP decided to make very poorly written backup and recovery
software.

Heres how it works.
1. You can use their recovery software as long as you dont encrypt you
drive.
2. Once you encrypt your drive you have to set a new restore point.
3. You are unable to set a restore point (unknown error) once the drive is
encrypted.
4. You try to recover your computer to factory defaults and are unable to
perform a restore until you disable drive encryption.
5. You cannot disable drive encryption until you can boot into your OS.
6. You cannot boot into your OS if you cannot get the boot options to ever
display!

WTF!?

"John Barnes" wrote:
Quote:

> Shift key and F10 may get you to a command prompt.
>
>
>
> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:56EEDEA7-1F02-43F5-A8D4-C0AAE63834BB@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > hi all,
> > i have an HP Compaq 8710p laptop that is about 10 months old. For no
> > apparent reason yesterday it just froze up and when i re-started it it
> > took
> > me directly into Startup Repair. Since then all it will do is boot up
> > into
> > startup repair and fix the same issue, then re-start itself and go back
> > into
> > startup repair, fixing the same issue over and over with no change.
> >
> > For some reason i am unable to press F8 to bring up boot options screen
> > during load. And this is easily the most annoying part about the whole
> > situation. there is absolutely NO WAY to interrupt the boot options and
> > get
> > a "selectable" list of boot options, for some reason it ONLY goes to
> > Startup
> > repair.
> >
> > Startup Repair never lasts too long at all only about 20 seconds each
> > time.
> > The diagnostic code in the details is as follows: (this is the only
> > problem
> > it detects)
> >
> > Root cause found:
> > Boot Manager failed to find OS loader.
> > Repair action : File Repair
> > Result : Completed Successfully. Error code 0x0
> > Time taken = 13400 ms
> >
> > So it states that it has fixed it but every time i restart it i get the
> > same
> > issue. I cant boot from cd because of course HP in its infinite wisdom
> > decided to make this a "diskless" restore. Using their own branded
> > software
> > to restore your computer - of course there are no restore points (as i
> > couldn't make them some software issue) so now im forced to restore this
> > back
> > to factory settings (which i really dont want to do)
> >
> > If anyone has any idea or had a similar problem like this please offer any
> > suggestions. FYI i am a seasoned MS Programmer with about 2 decades of
> > experience and in my lifetime i have never had such a hard time trying to
> > fix
> > a computer. I mean comon, give me a command prompt or something. I find
> > it
> > ridicolous that i cannot interrupt startup at any time!
> >
> > tia,
> > mcm
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-23-2008   #4 (permalink)
John Barnes


 
 

Re: Vista constantly reboots into Startup Repair - boot options no

Can you get into your BIOS to run from the DVD? You can try this program.
Some have had to burn to a DVD, others can get it to run from a CD.
http://neosmart.net/downloads/guides...overy_Disc.iso
You can go to the neosmart site for instructions.

"mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:69FA4587-94BC-4EDB-8964-5C6158FE1E8B@xxxxxx
Quote:

> no dice on the Shift F10.
> Spoke with HP Support. They say its a HD issue and i have to send it in
> for
> servicing. Of course i have critical information regarding my work on
> this
> hd and now have no way to recover it. I also got a vista CD from a friend
> and attempted to do the Repair option from it. VIsta install was
> undetected
> and i have no way to load drivers for my hard drive. So basically im
> screwed because HP decided to make very poorly written backup and recovery
> software.
>
> Heres how it works.
> 1. You can use their recovery software as long as you dont encrypt you
> drive.
> 2. Once you encrypt your drive you have to set a new restore point.
> 3. You are unable to set a restore point (unknown error) once the drive
> is
> encrypted.
> 4. You try to recover your computer to factory defaults and are unable to
> perform a restore until you disable drive encryption.
> 5. You cannot disable drive encryption until you can boot into your OS.
> 6. You cannot boot into your OS if you cannot get the boot options to
> ever
> display!
>
> WTF!?
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Shift key and F10 may get you to a command prompt.
>>
>>
>>
>> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:56EEDEA7-1F02-43F5-A8D4-C0AAE63834BB@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > hi all,
>> > i have an HP Compaq 8710p laptop that is about 10 months old. For no
>> > apparent reason yesterday it just froze up and when i re-started it it
>> > took
>> > me directly into Startup Repair. Since then all it will do is boot up
>> > into
>> > startup repair and fix the same issue, then re-start itself and go back
>> > into
>> > startup repair, fixing the same issue over and over with no change.
>> >
>> > For some reason i am unable to press F8 to bring up boot options screen
>> > during load. And this is easily the most annoying part about the whole
>> > situation. there is absolutely NO WAY to interrupt the boot options
>> > and
>> > get
>> > a "selectable" list of boot options, for some reason it ONLY goes to
>> > Startup
>> > repair.
>> >
>> > Startup Repair never lasts too long at all only about 20 seconds each
>> > time.
>> > The diagnostic code in the details is as follows: (this is the only
>> > problem
>> > it detects)
>> >
>> > Root cause found:
>> > Boot Manager failed to find OS loader.
>> > Repair action : File Repair
>> > Result : Completed Successfully. Error code 0x0
>> > Time taken = 13400 ms
>> >
>> > So it states that it has fixed it but every time i restart it i get the
>> > same
>> > issue. I cant boot from cd because of course HP in its infinite wisdom
>> > decided to make this a "diskless" restore. Using their own branded
>> > software
>> > to restore your computer - of course there are no restore points (as i
>> > couldn't make them some software issue) so now im forced to restore
>> > this
>> > back
>> > to factory settings (which i really dont want to do)
>> >
>> > If anyone has any idea or had a similar problem like this please offer
>> > any
>> > suggestions. FYI i am a seasoned MS Programmer with about 2 decades
>> > of
>> > experience and in my lifetime i have never had such a hard time trying
>> > to
>> > fix
>> > a computer. I mean comon, give me a command prompt or something. I
>> > find
>> > it
>> > ridicolous that i cannot interrupt startup at any time!
>> >
>> > tia,
>> > mcm
>>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-23-2008   #5 (permalink)
mcmcom


 
 

Re: Vista constantly reboots into Startup Repair - boot options no

Thanks for the help. I booted off the recovery disk. I went to repair. I
could not see my vista install on the list of installed o.a so I thought
maybe its because my drive is sata so I put the drivers on a USB drive and
attempted to install them they seemed to install but system repair still
cannot see my vista or my c drive. In command prompt i tried to chkdsk on c
but it said the drive is raw and this could not run on it. I then tried to
just go into c but it said it was not formatted.

So that's where I'm at now not much further sadly

TIA mcm

"John Barnes" wrote:
Quote:

> Can you get into your BIOS to run from the DVD? You can try this program.
> Some have had to burn to a DVD, others can get it to run from a CD.
> http://neosmart.net/downloads/guides...overy_Disc.iso
> You can go to the neosmart site for instructions.
>
> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:69FA4587-94BC-4EDB-8964-5C6158FE1E8B@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > no dice on the Shift F10.
> > Spoke with HP Support. They say its a HD issue and i have to send it in
> > for
> > servicing. Of course i have critical information regarding my work on
> > this
> > hd and now have no way to recover it. I also got a vista CD from a friend
> > and attempted to do the Repair option from it. VIsta install was
> > undetected
> > and i have no way to load drivers for my hard drive. So basically im
> > screwed because HP decided to make very poorly written backup and recovery
> > software.
> >
> > Heres how it works.
> > 1. You can use their recovery software as long as you dont encrypt you
> > drive.
> > 2. Once you encrypt your drive you have to set a new restore point.
> > 3. You are unable to set a restore point (unknown error) once the drive
> > is
> > encrypted.
> > 4. You try to recover your computer to factory defaults and are unable to
> > perform a restore until you disable drive encryption.
> > 5. You cannot disable drive encryption until you can boot into your OS.
> > 6. You cannot boot into your OS if you cannot get the boot options to
> > ever
> > display!
> >
> > WTF!?
> >
> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Shift key and F10 may get you to a command prompt.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:56EEDEA7-1F02-43F5-A8D4-C0AAE63834BB@xxxxxx
> >> > hi all,
> >> > i have an HP Compaq 8710p laptop that is about 10 months old. For no
> >> > apparent reason yesterday it just froze up and when i re-started it it
> >> > took
> >> > me directly into Startup Repair. Since then all it will do is boot up
> >> > into
> >> > startup repair and fix the same issue, then re-start itself and go back
> >> > into
> >> > startup repair, fixing the same issue over and over with no change.
> >> >
> >> > For some reason i am unable to press F8 to bring up boot options screen
> >> > during load. And this is easily the most annoying part about the whole
> >> > situation. there is absolutely NO WAY to interrupt the boot options
> >> > and
> >> > get
> >> > a "selectable" list of boot options, for some reason it ONLY goes to
> >> > Startup
> >> > repair.
> >> >
> >> > Startup Repair never lasts too long at all only about 20 seconds each
> >> > time.
> >> > The diagnostic code in the details is as follows: (this is the only
> >> > problem
> >> > it detects)
> >> >
> >> > Root cause found:
> >> > Boot Manager failed to find OS loader.
> >> > Repair action : File Repair
> >> > Result : Completed Successfully. Error code 0x0
> >> > Time taken = 13400 ms
> >> >
> >> > So it states that it has fixed it but every time i restart it i get the
> >> > same
> >> > issue. I cant boot from cd because of course HP in its infinite wisdom
> >> > decided to make this a "diskless" restore. Using their own branded
> >> > software
> >> > to restore your computer - of course there are no restore points (as i
> >> > couldn't make them some software issue) so now im forced to restore
> >> > this
> >> > back
> >> > to factory settings (which i really dont want to do)
> >> >
> >> > If anyone has any idea or had a similar problem like this please offer
> >> > any
> >> > suggestions. FYI i am a seasoned MS Programmer with about 2 decades
> >> > of
> >> > experience and in my lifetime i have never had such a hard time trying
> >> > to
> >> > fix
> >> > a computer. I mean comon, give me a command prompt or something. I
> >> > find
> >> > it
> >> > ridicolous that i cannot interrupt startup at any time
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-23-2008   #6 (permalink)
John Barnes


 
 

Re: Vista constantly reboots into Startup Repair - boot options no

Any chance that the diskpart /? command offers something that will
help with your drive (with drivers if needed)


"mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:7FC19FFA-F1CF-4D27-8444-ED2AA0658F63@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Thanks for the help. I booted off the recovery disk. I went to repair. I
> could not see my vista install on the list of installed o.a so I thought
> maybe its because my drive is sata so I put the drivers on a USB drive and
> attempted to install them they seemed to install but system repair still
> cannot see my vista or my c drive. In command prompt i tried to chkdsk on
> c
> but it said the drive is raw and this could not run on it. I then tried to
> just go into c but it said it was not formatted.
>
> So that's where I'm at now not much further sadly
>
> TIA mcm
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Can you get into your BIOS to run from the DVD? You can try this
>> program.
>> Some have had to burn to a DVD, others can get it to run from a CD.
>> http://neosmart.net/downloads/guides...overy_Disc.iso
>> You can go to the neosmart site for instructions.
>>
>> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:69FA4587-94BC-4EDB-8964-5C6158FE1E8B@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > no dice on the Shift F10.
>> > Spoke with HP Support. They say its a HD issue and i have to send it
>> > in
>> > for
>> > servicing. Of course i have critical information regarding my work on
>> > this
>> > hd and now have no way to recover it. I also got a vista CD from a
>> > friend
>> > and attempted to do the Repair option from it. VIsta install was
>> > undetected
>> > and i have no way to load drivers for my hard drive. So basically
>> > im
>> > screwed because HP decided to make very poorly written backup and
>> > recovery
>> > software.
>> >
>> > Heres how it works.
>> > 1. You can use their recovery software as long as you dont encrypt you
>> > drive.
>> > 2. Once you encrypt your drive you have to set a new restore point.
>> > 3. You are unable to set a restore point (unknown error) once the
>> > drive
>> > is
>> > encrypted.
>> > 4. You try to recover your computer to factory defaults and are unable
>> > to
>> > perform a restore until you disable drive encryption.
>> > 5. You cannot disable drive encryption until you can boot into your
>> > OS.
>> > 6. You cannot boot into your OS if you cannot get the boot options to
>> > ever
>> > display!
>> >
>> > WTF!?
>> >
>> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Shift key and F10 may get you to a command prompt.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:56EEDEA7-1F02-43F5-A8D4-C0AAE63834BB@xxxxxx
>> >> > hi all,
>> >> > i have an HP Compaq 8710p laptop that is about 10 months old. For
>> >> > no
>> >> > apparent reason yesterday it just froze up and when i re-started it
>> >> > it
>> >> > took
>> >> > me directly into Startup Repair. Since then all it will do is boot
>> >> > up
>> >> > into
>> >> > startup repair and fix the same issue, then re-start itself and go
>> >> > back
>> >> > into
>> >> > startup repair, fixing the same issue over and over with no change.
>> >> >
>> >> > For some reason i am unable to press F8 to bring up boot options
>> >> > screen
>> >> > during load. And this is easily the most annoying part about the
>> >> > whole
>> >> > situation. there is absolutely NO WAY to interrupt the boot options
>> >> > and
>> >> > get
>> >> > a "selectable" list of boot options, for some reason it ONLY goes
>> >> > to
>> >> > Startup
>> >> > repair.
>> >> >
>> >> > Startup Repair never lasts too long at all only about 20 seconds
>> >> > each
>> >> > time.
>> >> > The diagnostic code in the details is as follows: (this is the only
>> >> > problem
>> >> > it detects)
>> >> >
>> >> > Root cause found:
>> >> > Boot Manager failed to find OS loader.
>> >> > Repair action : File Repair
>> >> > Result : Completed Successfully. Error code 0x0
>> >> > Time taken = 13400 ms
>> >> >
>> >> > So it states that it has fixed it but every time i restart it i get
>> >> > the
>> >> > same
>> >> > issue. I cant boot from cd because of course HP in its infinite
>> >> > wisdom
>> >> > decided to make this a "diskless" restore. Using their own branded
>> >> > software
>> >> > to restore your computer - of course there are no restore points (as
>> >> > i
>> >> > couldn't make them some software issue) so now im forced to restore
>> >> > this
>> >> > back
>> >> > to factory settings (which i really dont want to do)
>> >> >
>> >> > If anyone has any idea or had a similar problem like this please
>> >> > offer
>> >> > any
>> >> > suggestions. FYI i am a seasoned MS Programmer with about 2
>> >> > decades
>> >> > of
>> >> > experience and in my lifetime i have never had such a hard time
>> >> > trying
>> >> > to
>> >> > fix
>> >> > a computer. I mean comon, give me a command prompt or something. I
>> >> > find
>> >> > it
>> >> > ridicolous that i cannot interrupt startup at any time
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-23-2008   #7 (permalink)
mcmcom


 
 

Re: Vista constantly reboots into Startup Repair - boot options no

thanks i will try that in a bit. right now i am backing up all my work and
files onto an external drive just in case i throw the computer off my
balcony. I spoke with hp support at length today, they seem to think its a
problem with my hard drive. It may well be but i am suspicious of this
because i CAN get into hps Recovery system (as i stated earlier) from the
recovery system i can backup my files to a drive. I cannot do the restore
because of the drive encryption but i can backup my files.

i will let you know the results of test as soon as i am done backing up
these files.
thanks again for the help,
mcm
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 03-24-2008   #8 (permalink)
mcmcom


 
 

Re: Vista constantly reboots into Startup Repair - boot options no

if i type diskpart /? i get a mini help file that tells me /s can be used for
a script and /? is for the help screen. Any specific commands i should try
on this?

thanks,
mcm

"John Barnes" wrote:
Quote:

> Any chance that the diskpart /? command offers something that will
> help with your drive (with drivers if needed)
>
>
> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:7FC19FFA-F1CF-4D27-8444-ED2AA0658F63@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Thanks for the help. I booted off the recovery disk. I went to repair. I
> > could not see my vista install on the list of installed o.a so I thought
> > maybe its because my drive is sata so I put the drivers on a USB drive and
> > attempted to install them they seemed to install but system repair still
> > cannot see my vista or my c drive. In command prompt i tried to chkdsk on
> > c
> > but it said the drive is raw and this could not run on it. I then tried to
> > just go into c but it said it was not formatted.
> >
> > So that's where I'm at now not much further sadly
> >
> > TIA mcm
> >
> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Can you get into your BIOS to run from the DVD? You can try this
> >> program.
> >> Some have had to burn to a DVD, others can get it to run from a CD.
> >> http://neosmart.net/downloads/guides...overy_Disc.iso
> >> You can go to the neosmart site for instructions.
> >>
> >> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:69FA4587-94BC-4EDB-8964-5C6158FE1E8B@xxxxxx
> >> > no dice on the Shift F10.
> >> > Spoke with HP Support. They say its a HD issue and i have to send it
> >> > in
> >> > for
> >> > servicing. Of course i have critical information regarding my work on
> >> > this
> >> > hd and now have no way to recover it. I also got a vista CD from a
> >> > friend
> >> > and attempted to do the Repair option from it. VIsta install was
> >> > undetected
> >> > and i have no way to load drivers for my hard drive. So basically
> >> > im
> >> > screwed because HP decided to make very poorly written backup and
> >> > recovery
> >> > software.
> >> >
> >> > Heres how it works.
> >> > 1. You can use their recovery software as long as you dont encrypt you
> >> > drive.
> >> > 2. Once you encrypt your drive you have to set a new restore point.
> >> > 3. You are unable to set a restore point (unknown error) once the
> >> > drive
> >> > is
> >> > encrypted.
> >> > 4. You try to recover your computer to factory defaults and are unable
> >> > to
> >> > perform a restore until you disable drive encryption.
> >> > 5. You cannot disable drive encryption until you can boot into your
> >> > OS.
> >> > 6. You cannot boot into your OS if you cannot get the boot options to
> >> > ever
> >> > display!
> >> >
> >> > WTF!?
> >> >
> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Shift key and F10 may get you to a command prompt.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:56EEDEA7-1F02-43F5-A8D4-C0AAE63834BB@xxxxxx
> >> >> > hi all,
> >> >> > i have an HP Compaq 8710p laptop that is about 10 months old. For
> >> >> > no
> >> >> > apparent reason yesterday it just froze up and when i re-started it
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > took
> >> >> > me directly into Startup Repair. Since then all it will do is boot
> >> >> > up
> >> >> > into
> >> >> > startup repair and fix the same issue, then re-start itself and go
> >> >> > back
> >> >> > into
> >> >> > startup repair, fixing the same issue over and over with no change.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > For some reason i am unable to press F8 to bring up boot options
> >> >> > screen
> >> >> > during load. And this is easily the most annoying part about the
> >> >> > whole
> >> >> > situation. there is absolutely NO WAY to interrupt the boot options
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > get
> >> >> > a "selectable" list of boot options, for some reason it ONLY goes
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > Startup
> >> >> > repair.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Startup Repair never lasts too long at all only about 20 seconds
> >> >> > each
> >> >> > time.
> >> >> > The diagnostic code in the details is as follows: (this is the only
> >> >> > problem
> >> >> > it detects)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Root cause found:
> >> >> > Boot Manager failed to find OS loader.
> >> >> > Repair action : File Repair
> >> >> > Result : Completed Successfully. Error code 0x0
> >> >> > Time taken = 13400 ms
> >> >> >
> >> >> > So it states that it has fixed it but every time i restart it i get
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > same
> >> >> > issue. I cant boot from cd because of course HP in its infinite
> >> >> > wisdom
> >> >> > decided to make this a "diskless" restore. Using their own branded
> >> >> > software
> >> >> > to restore your computer - of course there are no restore points (as
> >> >> > i
> >> >> > couldn't make them some software issue) so now im forced to restore
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > back
> >> >> > to factory settings (which i really dont want to do)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If anyone has any idea or had a similar problem like this please
> >> >> > offer
> >> >> > any
> >> >> > suggestions. FYI i am a seasoned MS Programmer with about 2
> >> >> > decades
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > experience and in my lifetime i have never had such a hard time
> >> >> > trying
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > fix
> >> >> > a computer. I mean comon, give me a command prompt or something. I
> >> >> > find
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > ridicolous that i cannot interrupt startup at any time
>
>
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Old 03-24-2008   #9 (permalink)
John Barnes


 
 

Re: Vista constantly reboots into Startup Repair - boot options no

No. Looks like the crippled version. Looks pretty much like you have tried
everything except the HP solution.

"mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:80CB1E51-9B8D-4658-8B30-69F33AFB8D48@xxxxxx
Quote:

> if i type diskpart /? i get a mini help file that tells me /s can be used
> for
> a script and /? is for the help screen. Any specific commands i should
> try
> on this?
>
> thanks,
> mcm
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Any chance that the diskpart /? command offers something that will
>> help with your drive (with drivers if needed)
>>
>>
>> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:7FC19FFA-F1CF-4D27-8444-ED2AA0658F63@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Thanks for the help. I booted off the recovery disk. I went to repair.
>> > I
>> > could not see my vista install on the list of installed o.a so I
>> > thought
>> > maybe its because my drive is sata so I put the drivers on a USB drive
>> > and
>> > attempted to install them they seemed to install but system repair
>> > still
>> > cannot see my vista or my c drive. In command prompt i tried to chkdsk
>> > on
>> > c
>> > but it said the drive is raw and this could not run on it. I then tried
>> > to
>> > just go into c but it said it was not formatted.
>> >
>> > So that's where I'm at now not much further sadly
>> >
>> > TIA mcm
>> >
>> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Can you get into your BIOS to run from the DVD? You can try this
>> >> program.
>> >> Some have had to burn to a DVD, others can get it to run from a CD.
>> >> http://neosmart.net/downloads/guides...overy_Disc.iso
>> >> You can go to the neosmart site for instructions.
>> >>
>> >> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> news:69FA4587-94BC-4EDB-8964-5C6158FE1E8B@xxxxxx
>> >> > no dice on the Shift F10.
>> >> > Spoke with HP Support. They say its a HD issue and i have to send
>> >> > it
>> >> > in
>> >> > for
>> >> > servicing. Of course i have critical information regarding my work
>> >> > on
>> >> > this
>> >> > hd and now have no way to recover it. I also got a vista CD from a
>> >> > friend
>> >> > and attempted to do the Repair option from it. VIsta install was
>> >> > undetected
>> >> > and i have no way to load drivers for my hard drive. So
>> >> > basically
>> >> > im
>> >> > screwed because HP decided to make very poorly written backup and
>> >> > recovery
>> >> > software.
>> >> >
>> >> > Heres how it works.
>> >> > 1. You can use their recovery software as long as you dont encrypt
>> >> > you
>> >> > drive.
>> >> > 2. Once you encrypt your drive you have to set a new restore point.
>> >> > 3. You are unable to set a restore point (unknown error) once the
>> >> > drive
>> >> > is
>> >> > encrypted.
>> >> > 4. You try to recover your computer to factory defaults and are
>> >> > unable
>> >> > to
>> >> > perform a restore until you disable drive encryption.
>> >> > 5. You cannot disable drive encryption until you can boot into your
>> >> > OS.
>> >> > 6. You cannot boot into your OS if you cannot get the boot options
>> >> > to
>> >> > ever
>> >> > display!
>> >> >
>> >> > WTF!?
>> >> >
>> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Shift key and F10 may get you to a command prompt.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:56EEDEA7-1F02-43F5-A8D4-C0AAE63834BB@xxxxxx
>> >> >> > hi all,
>> >> >> > i have an HP Compaq 8710p laptop that is about 10 months old.
>> >> >> > For
>> >> >> > no
>> >> >> > apparent reason yesterday it just froze up and when i re-started
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > took
>> >> >> > me directly into Startup Repair. Since then all it will do is
>> >> >> > boot
>> >> >> > up
>> >> >> > into
>> >> >> > startup repair and fix the same issue, then re-start itself and
>> >> >> > go
>> >> >> > back
>> >> >> > into
>> >> >> > startup repair, fixing the same issue over and over with no
>> >> >> > change.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > For some reason i am unable to press F8 to bring up boot options
>> >> >> > screen
>> >> >> > during load. And this is easily the most annoying part about the
>> >> >> > whole
>> >> >> > situation. there is absolutely NO WAY to interrupt the boot
>> >> >> > options
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > get
>> >> >> > a "selectable" list of boot options, for some reason it ONLY
>> >> >> > goes
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > Startup
>> >> >> > repair.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Startup Repair never lasts too long at all only about 20 seconds
>> >> >> > each
>> >> >> > time.
>> >> >> > The diagnostic code in the details is as follows: (this is the
>> >> >> > only
>> >> >> > problem
>> >> >> > it detects)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Root cause found:
>> >> >> > Boot Manager failed to find OS loader.
>> >> >> > Repair action : File Repair
>> >> >> > Result : Completed Successfully. Error code 0x0
>> >> >> > Time taken = 13400 ms
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So it states that it has fixed it but every time i restart it i
>> >> >> > get
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > same
>> >> >> > issue. I cant boot from cd because of course HP in its infinite
>> >> >> > wisdom
>> >> >> > decided to make this a "diskless" restore. Using their own
>> >> >> > branded
>> >> >> > software
>> >> >> > to restore your computer - of course there are no restore points
>> >> >> > (as
>> >> >> > i
>> >> >> > couldn't make them some software issue) so now im forced to
>> >> >> > restore
>> >> >> > this
>> >> >> > back
>> >> >> > to factory settings (which i really dont want to do)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If anyone has any idea or had a similar problem like this please
>> >> >> > offer
>> >> >> > any
>> >> >> > suggestions. FYI i am a seasoned MS Programmer with about 2
>> >> >> > decades
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > experience and in my lifetime i have never had such a hard time
>> >> >> > trying
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > fix
>> >> >> > a computer. I mean comon, give me a command prompt or something.
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > find
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > ridicolous that i cannot interrupt startup at any time
>>
>>
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Old 03-24-2008   #10 (permalink)
mcmcom


 
 

Re: Vista constantly reboots into Startup Repair - boot options no

yes the more i attempt to use hp's backup tools the more i realize the issue
is with the disk because i can only make very small backups or else it
crashes Also it thinks the damn disk is RAW.

thanks anyways im sending it off for repairs today.
mcm

"John Barnes" wrote:
Quote:

> No. Looks like the crippled version. Looks pretty much like you have tried
> everything except the HP solution.
>
> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:80CB1E51-9B8D-4658-8B30-69F33AFB8D48@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > if i type diskpart /? i get a mini help file that tells me /s can be used
> > for
> > a script and /? is for the help screen. Any specific commands i should
> > try
> > on this?
> >
> > thanks,
> > mcm
> >
> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Any chance that the diskpart /? command offers something that will
> >> help with your drive (with drivers if needed)
> >>
> >>
> >> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:7FC19FFA-F1CF-4D27-8444-ED2AA0658F63@xxxxxx
> >> > Thanks for the help. I booted off the recovery disk. I went to repair.
> >> > I
> >> > could not see my vista install on the list of installed o.a so I
> >> > thought
> >> > maybe its because my drive is sata so I put the drivers on a USB drive
> >> > and
> >> > attempted to install them they seemed to install but system repair
> >> > still
> >> > cannot see my vista or my c drive. In command prompt i tried to chkdsk
> >> > on
> >> > c
> >> > but it said the drive is raw and this could not run on it. I then tried
> >> > to
> >> > just go into c but it said it was not formatted.
> >> >
> >> > So that's where I'm at now not much further sadly
> >> >
> >> > TIA mcm
> >> >
> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Can you get into your BIOS to run from the DVD? You can try this
> >> >> program.
> >> >> Some have had to burn to a DVD, others can get it to run from a CD.
> >> >> http://neosmart.net/downloads/guides...overy_Disc.iso
> >> >> You can go to the neosmart site for instructions.
> >> >>
> >> >> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> news:69FA4587-94BC-4EDB-8964-5C6158FE1E8B@xxxxxx
> >> >> > no dice on the Shift F10.
> >> >> > Spoke with HP Support. They say its a HD issue and i have to send
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > servicing. Of course i have critical information regarding my work
> >> >> > on
> >> >> > this
> >> >> > hd and now have no way to recover it. I also got a vista CD from a
> >> >> > friend
> >> >> > and attempted to do the Repair option from it. VIsta install was
> >> >> > undetected
> >> >> > and i have no way to load drivers for my hard drive. So
> >> >> > basically
> >> >> > im
> >> >> > screwed because HP decided to make very poorly written backup and
> >> >> > recovery
> >> >> > software.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Heres how it works.
> >> >> > 1. You can use their recovery software as long as you dont encrypt
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > drive.
> >> >> > 2. Once you encrypt your drive you have to set a new restore point.
> >> >> > 3. You are unable to set a restore point (unknown error) once the
> >> >> > drive
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > encrypted.
> >> >> > 4. You try to recover your computer to factory defaults and are
> >> >> > unable
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > perform a restore until you disable drive encryption.
> >> >> > 5. You cannot disable drive encryption until you can boot into your
> >> >> > OS.
> >> >> > 6. You cannot boot into your OS if you cannot get the boot options
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > ever
> >> >> > display!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > WTF!?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Shift key and F10 may get you to a command prompt.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "mcmcom" <mcmcom@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:56EEDEA7-1F02-43F5-A8D4-C0AAE63834BB@xxxxxx
> >> >> >> > hi all,
> >> >> >> > i have an HP Compaq 8710p laptop that is about 10 months old.
> >> >> >> > For
> >> >> >> > no
> >> >> >> > apparent reason yesterday it just froze up and when i re-started
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> > took
> >> >> >> > me directly into Startup Repair. Since then all it will do is
> >> >> >> > boot
> >> >> >> > up
> >> >> >> > into
> >> >> >> > startup repair and fix the same issue, then re-start itself and
> >> >> >> > go
> >> >> >> > back
> >> >> >> > into
> >> >> >> > startup repair, fixing the same issue over and over with no
> >> >> >> > change.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > For some reason i am unable to press F8 to bring up boot options
> >> >> >> > screen
> >> >> >> > during load. And this is easily the most annoying part about the
> >> >> >> > whole
> >> >> >> > situation. there is absolutely NO WAY to interrupt the boot
> >> >> >> > options
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > get
> >> >> >> > a "selectable" list of boot options, for some reason it ONLY
> >> >> >> > goes
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > Startup
> >> >> >> > repair.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Startup Repair never lasts too long at all only about 20 seconds
> >> >> >> > each
> >> >> >> > time.
> >> >> >> > The diagnostic code in the details is as follows: (this is the
> >> >> >> > only
> >> >> >> > problem
> >> >> >> > it detects)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Root cause found:
> >> >> >> > Boot Manager failed to find OS loader.
> >> >> >> > Repair action : File Repair
> >> >> >> > Result : Completed Successfully. Error code 0x0
> >> >> >> > Time taken = 13400 ms
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > So it states that it has fixed it but every time i restart it i
> >> >> >> > get
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > same
> >> >> >> > issue. I cant boot from cd because of course HP in its infinite
> >> >> >> > wisdom
> >> >> >> > decided to make this a "diskless" restore. Using their own
> >> >> >> > branded
> >> >> >> > software
> >> >> >> > to restore your computer - of course there are no restore points
> >> >> >> > (as
> >> >> >> > i
> >> >> >> > couldn't make them some software issue) so now im forced to
> >> >> >> > restore
> >> >> >> > this
> >> >> >> > back
> >> >> >> > to factory settings (which i really dont want to do)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If anyone has any idea or had a similar problem like this please
> >> >> >> > offer
> >> >> >> > any
> >> >> >> > suggestions. FYI i am a seasoned MS Programmer with about 2
> >> >> >> > decades
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > experience and in my lifetime i have never had such a hard time
> >> >> >> > trying
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > fix
> >> >> >> > a computer. I mean comon, give me a command prompt or something.
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > find
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> > ridicolous that i cannot interrupt startup at any time
> >>
> >>
>
>
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