Vista - Overcoming obstacles and installing SP1 easily

03-25-2008

Assuming you are denied access to the simple Windows
Update SP1 process, though you appear to "pass" the
published criteria, here's one way to find out if the
grass is really greener...

1. Back up all of your data files.
2. Create a Restore Point.
3. Download the 434MB 5-language file from
http://tinyurl.com/32z6vj
4. Start > msconfig (as administrator).
5. Under Services tab, check the Hide all Microsoft
services box.
6. Under Services tab, Disable all.
7. Under Startup tab, Disable all.
8. Reboot.
9. Install the SP1 download - expect 30-60 minutes with
2-3 reboots.
10. When complete, go to msconfig as administrator
again, restore the Services and Startups you wish to
run, or under the General tab select Normal startup.

You're finished.

If you encounter any conflicts, use msconfig to suppress
the startup or service causing it, and seek the latest
driver, file, app, etc.

If you cannot get an updated file/app/driver that is
compatible with SP1, and you must have that function,
roll back. Sorry...

No warranty with this advice, though I was successful on
three recalcitrant computers that should have updated
the simple way, but wouldn't. They run fine now, showing
6001. Good luck to you, and please report here.

Ike --
Who is definitely NOT an MVP but got this the hard way.

03-25-2008

I followed your instructions explicitly and was successful in installing SP1
without any problems. I've been attempting to install SP1 on my son's
computer through Windows Update, but his computer wasn't "seeing" it for
some reason. And, until I perused your post, I was reluctant to download
and install the 434 megs., especially since MS was advising otherwise. You
convinced me to do it.

Anyway, your advice was extremely helpful.

Thank you,

Ernie

"e" <binarydotike@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:fsbf7a$bvv$1@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Assuming you are denied access to the simple Windows Update SP1 process,
> though you appear to "pass" the published criteria, here's one way to find
> out if the grass is really greener...
>
> 1. Back up all of your data files.
> 2. Create a Restore Point.
> 3. Download the 434MB 5-language file from http://tinyurl.com/32z6vj
> 4. Start > msconfig (as administrator).
> 5. Under Services tab, check the Hide all Microsoft services box.
> 6. Under Services tab, Disable all.
> 7. Under Startup tab, Disable all.
> 8. Reboot.
> 9. Install the SP1 download - expect 30-60 minutes with 2-3 reboots.
> 10. When complete, go to msconfig as administrator again, restore the
> Services and Startups you wish to run, or under the General tab select
> Normal startup.
>
> You're finished.
>
> If you encounter any conflicts, use msconfig to suppress the startup or
> service causing it, and seek the latest driver, file, app, etc.
>
> If you cannot get an updated file/app/driver that is compatible with SP1,
> and you must have that function, roll back. Sorry...
>
> No warranty with this advice, though I was successful on three
> recalcitrant computers that should have updated the simple way, but
> wouldn't. They run fine now, showing 6001. Good luck to you, and please
> report here.
>
> Ike --
> Who is definitely NOT an MVP but got this the hard way.

03-25-2008

The MS tech did this on my computer and SP1 still will not install. Same
Code Error 0x800B0100 every time.

"e" <binarydotike@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:fsbf7a$bvv$1@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Assuming you are denied access to the simple Windows Update SP1 process,
> though you appear to "pass" the published criteria, here's one way to find
> out if the grass is really greener...
>
> 1. Back up all of your data files.
> 2. Create a Restore Point.
> 3. Download the 434MB 5-language file from http://tinyurl.com/32z6vj
> 4. Start > msconfig (as administrator).
> 5. Under Services tab, check the Hide all Microsoft services box.
> 6. Under Services tab, Disable all.
> 7. Under Startup tab, Disable all.
> 8. Reboot.
> 9. Install the SP1 download - expect 30-60 minutes with 2-3 reboots.
> 10. When complete, go to msconfig as administrator again, restore the
> Services and Startups you wish to run, or under the General tab select
> Normal startup.
>
> You're finished.
>
> If you encounter any conflicts, use msconfig to suppress the startup or
> service causing it, and seek the latest driver, file, app, etc.
>
> If you cannot get an updated file/app/driver that is compatible with SP1,
> and you must have that function, roll back. Sorry...
>
> No warranty with this advice, though I was successful on three
> recalcitrant computers that should have updated the simple way, but
> wouldn't. They run fine now, showing 6001. Good luck to you, and please
> report here.
>
> Ike --
> Who is definitely NOT an MVP but got this the hard way.

03-25-2008

Ryka wrote:

Quote:

> The MS tech did this on my computer and SP1 still will not install. Same
> Code Error 0x800B0100 every time.

That procedure works best for ignorant nonprofessionals
like me, who carefully follow every step.

I emailed my procedure to a friend (PhD in computer
science, worked his way through college building/fixing
computers) and he failed. I asked his daughter to take
over, and she had no problem. In retrospect, my friend
admitted that he read the entire procedure, then did it.
His daughter read each step, did it, then read the next
step, etc.

The "expert" usually fails to suppress Microsoft
services, or fails to disable ALL other services and ALL
startups.

Good luck!!

03-25-2008

"e" <binarydotike@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:fsbf7a$bvv$1@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Assuming you are denied access to the simple Windows
> Update SP1 process, though you appear to "pass" the
> published criteria, here's one way to find out if the
> grass is really greener...
>
> 1. Back up all of your data files.
> 2. Create a Restore Point.
> 3. Download the 434MB 5-language file from
> http://tinyurl.com/32z6vj
> 4. Start > msconfig (as administrator).
> 5. Under Services tab, check the Hide all Microsoft
> services box.
> 6. Under Services tab, Disable all.
> 7. Under Startup tab, Disable all.
> 8. Reboot.
> 9. Install the SP1 download - expect 30-60 minutes with
> 2-3 reboots.
> 10. When complete, go to msconfig as administrator
> again, restore the Services and Startups you wish to
> run, or under the General tab select Normal startup.
>
> You're finished.

Much easier to just boot into Safe Mode and run the
install from there.

-Michael

03-25-2008

MICHAEL wrote:

Quote:

> "e" <binarydotike@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:fsbf7a$bvv$1@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Assuming you are denied access to the simple Windows Update SP1
>> process, though you appear to "pass" the published criteria, here's
>> one way to find out if the grass is really greener...
>>
>> 1. Back up all of your data files.
>> 2. Create a Restore Point.
>> 3. Download the 434MB 5-language file from http://tinyurl.com/32z6vj
>> 4. Start > msconfig (as administrator).
>> 5. Under Services tab, check the Hide all Microsoft services box.
>> 6. Under Services tab, Disable all.
>> 7. Under Startup tab, Disable all.
>> 8. Reboot.
>> 9. Install the SP1 download - expect 30-60 minutes with 2-3 reboots.
>> 10. When complete, go to msconfig as administrator again, restore the
>> Services and Startups you wish to run, or under the General tab select
>> Normal startup.
>>
>> You're finished.

>
> Much easier to just boot into Safe Mode and run the
> install from there.
>
>
> -Michael

I thought so too, but in Safe Mode the install never
went past Step 2. It ground away for a couple of hours,
eventually giving me a FAILED screen. Doing it as shown
above took less than an hour.

03-26-2008

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:10:14 -0700, e wrote:

Quote:

> Assuming you are denied access to the simple Windows
> Update SP1 process, though you appear to "pass" the
> published criteria, here's one way to find out if the
> grass is really greener...
>
> 1. Back up all of your data files.
> 2. Create a Restore Point.
> 3. Download the 434MB 5-language file from
> http://tinyurl.com/32z6vj
> 4. Start > msconfig (as administrator).
> 5. Under Services tab, check the Hide all Microsoft
> services box.
> 6. Under Services tab, Disable all.
> 7. Under Startup tab, Disable all.
> 8. Reboot.
> 9. Install the SP1 download - expect 30-60 minutes with
> 2-3 reboots.
> 10. When complete, go to msconfig as administrator
> again, restore the Services and Startups you wish to
> run, or under the General tab select Normal startup.
>
> You're finished.
>
> If you encounter any conflicts, use msconfig to suppress
> the startup or service causing it, and seek the latest
> driver, file, app, etc.
>
> If you cannot get an updated file/app/driver that is
> compatible with SP1, and you must have that function,
> roll back. Sorry...
>
> No warranty with this advice, though I was successful on
> three recalcitrant computers that should have updated
> the simple way, but wouldn't. They run fine now, showing
> 6001. Good luck to you, and please report here.
>
> Ike --
> Who is definitely NOT an MVP but got this the hard way.

Nice little piece of work imho!!!

My SP1 went fine, but I printed this off in case I have other problems - I
usually forget just how easy it is to get a raw basic system! Nice!

Thanks!
--
Kris
----------
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| 2x1gb Mushkin HP 800@xxxxxx | MSI NX8600GTS-OC 256mb |
Raidmax RX530-SS psu | Vista Ult 32 SP1

03-25-2008	#1 (permalink)
e n/a posts	Overcoming obstacles and installing SP1 easily Assuming you are denied access to the simple Windows Update SP1 process, though you appear to "pass" the published criteria, here's one way to find out if the grass is really greener... 1. Back up all of your data files. 2. Create a Restore Point. 3. Download the 434MB 5-language file from http://tinyurl.com/32z6vj 4. Start > msconfig (as administrator). 5. Under Services tab, check the Hide all Microsoft services box. 6. Under Services tab, Disable all. 7. Under Startup tab, Disable all. 8. Reboot. 9. Install the SP1 download - expect 30-60 minutes with 2-3 reboots. 10. When complete, go to msconfig as administrator again, restore the Services and Startups you wish to run, or under the General tab select Normal startup. You're finished. If you encounter any conflicts, use msconfig to suppress the startup or service causing it, and seek the latest driver, file, app, etc. If you cannot get an updated file/app/driver that is compatible with SP1, and you must have that function, roll back. Sorry... No warranty with this advice, though I was successful on three recalcitrant computers that should have updated the simple way, but wouldn't. They run fine now, showing 6001. Good luck to you, and please report here. Ike -- Who is definitely NOT an MVP but got this the hard way.
My System Specs

03-25-2008	#2 (permalink)
Scrivener n/a posts	Re: Overcoming obstacles and installing SP1 easily I followed your instructions explicitly and was successful in installing SP1 without any problems. I've been attempting to install SP1 on my son's computer through Windows Update, but his computer wasn't "seeing" it for some reason. And, until I perused your post, I was reluctant to download and install the 434 megs., especially since MS was advising otherwise. You convinced me to do it. Anyway, your advice was extremely helpful. Thank you, Ernie "e" <binarydotike@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:fsbf7a$bvv$1@xxxxxx Quote: > Assuming you are denied access to the simple Windows Update SP1 process, > though you appear to "pass" the published criteria, here's one way to find > out if the grass is really greener... > > 1. Back up all of your data files. > 2. Create a Restore Point. > 3. Download the 434MB 5-language file from http://tinyurl.com/32z6vj > 4. Start > msconfig (as administrator). > 5. Under Services tab, check the Hide all Microsoft services box. > 6. Under Services tab, Disable all. > 7. Under Startup tab, Disable all. > 8. Reboot. > 9. Install the SP1 download - expect 30-60 minutes with 2-3 reboots. > 10. When complete, go to msconfig as administrator again, restore the > Services and Startups you wish to run, or under the General tab select > Normal startup. > > You're finished. > > If you encounter any conflicts, use msconfig to suppress the startup or > service causing it, and seek the latest driver, file, app, etc. > > If you cannot get an updated file/app/driver that is compatible with SP1, > and you must have that function, roll back. Sorry... > > No warranty with this advice, though I was successful on three > recalcitrant computers that should have updated the simple way, but > wouldn't. They run fine now, showing 6001. Good luck to you, and please > report here. > > Ike -- > Who is definitely NOT an MVP but got this the hard way.
My System Specs

03-25-2008	#3 (permalink)
Ryka n/a posts	Re: Overcoming obstacles and installing SP1 easily The MS tech did this on my computer and SP1 still will not install. Same Code Error 0x800B0100 every time. "e" <binarydotike@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:fsbf7a$bvv$1@xxxxxx Quote: > Assuming you are denied access to the simple Windows Update SP1 process, > though you appear to "pass" the published criteria, here's one way to find > out if the grass is really greener... > > 1. Back up all of your data files. > 2. Create a Restore Point. > 3. Download the 434MB 5-language file from http://tinyurl.com/32z6vj > 4. Start > msconfig (as administrator). > 5. Under Services tab, check the Hide all Microsoft services box. > 6. Under Services tab, Disable all. > 7. Under Startup tab, Disable all. > 8. Reboot. > 9. Install the SP1 download - expect 30-60 minutes with 2-3 reboots. > 10. When complete, go to msconfig as administrator again, restore the > Services and Startups you wish to run, or under the General tab select > Normal startup. > > You're finished. > > If you encounter any conflicts, use msconfig to suppress the startup or > service causing it, and seek the latest driver, file, app, etc. > > If you cannot get an updated file/app/driver that is compatible with SP1, > and you must have that function, roll back. Sorry... > > No warranty with this advice, though I was successful on three > recalcitrant computers that should have updated the simple way, but > wouldn't. They run fine now, showing 6001. Good luck to you, and please > report here. > > Ike -- > Who is definitely NOT an MVP but got this the hard way.
My System Specs

03-25-2008	#4 (permalink)
e n/a posts	Re: Overcoming obstacles and installing SP1 easily Ryka wrote: Quote: > The MS tech did this on my computer and SP1 still will not install. Same > Code Error 0x800B0100 every time. That procedure works best for ignorant nonprofessionals like me, who carefully follow every step. I emailed my procedure to a friend (PhD in computer science, worked his way through college building/fixing computers) and he failed. I asked his daughter to take over, and she had no problem. In retrospect, my friend admitted that he read the entire procedure, then did it. His daughter read each step, did it, then read the next step, etc. The "expert" usually fails to suppress Microsoft services, or fails to disable ALL other services and ALL startups. Good luck!!
My System Specs

03-25-2008	#5 (permalink)
MICHAEL n/a posts	Re: Overcoming obstacles and installing SP1 easily "e" <binarydotike@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:fsbf7a$bvv$1@xxxxxx Quote: > Assuming you are denied access to the simple Windows > Update SP1 process, though you appear to "pass" the > published criteria, here's one way to find out if the > grass is really greener... > > 1. Back up all of your data files. > 2. Create a Restore Point. > 3. Download the 434MB 5-language file from > http://tinyurl.com/32z6vj > 4. Start > msconfig (as administrator). > 5. Under Services tab, check the Hide all Microsoft > services box. > 6. Under Services tab, Disable all. > 7. Under Startup tab, Disable all. > 8. Reboot. > 9. Install the SP1 download - expect 30-60 minutes with > 2-3 reboots. > 10. When complete, go to msconfig as administrator > again, restore the Services and Startups you wish to > run, or under the General tab select Normal startup. > > You're finished. Much easier to just boot into Safe Mode and run the install from there. -Michael
My System Specs

03-25-2008	#6 (permalink)
e n/a posts	Re: Overcoming obstacles and installing SP1 easily MICHAEL wrote: Quote: > "e" <binarydotike@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:fsbf7a$bvv$1@xxxxxx Quote: >> Assuming you are denied access to the simple Windows Update SP1 >> process, though you appear to "pass" the published criteria, here's >> one way to find out if the grass is really greener... >> >> 1. Back up all of your data files. >> 2. Create a Restore Point. >> 3. Download the 434MB 5-language file from http://tinyurl.com/32z6vj >> 4. Start > msconfig (as administrator). >> 5. Under Services tab, check the Hide all Microsoft services box. >> 6. Under Services tab, Disable all. >> 7. Under Startup tab, Disable all. >> 8. Reboot. >> 9. Install the SP1 download - expect 30-60 minutes with 2-3 reboots. >> 10. When complete, go to msconfig as administrator again, restore the >> Services and Startups you wish to run, or under the General tab select >> Normal startup. >> >> You're finished. > > Much easier to just boot into Safe Mode and run the > install from there. > > > -Michael I thought so too, but in Safe Mode the install never went past Step 2. It ground away for a couple of hours, eventually giving me a FAILED screen. Doing it as shown above took less than an hour.
My System Specs

03-26-2008	#7 (permalink)
Kris n/a posts	Re: Overcoming obstacles and installing SP1 easily On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:10:14 -0700, e wrote: Quote: > Assuming you are denied access to the simple Windows > Update SP1 process, though you appear to "pass" the > published criteria, here's one way to find out if the > grass is really greener... > > 1. Back up all of your data files. > 2. Create a Restore Point. > 3. Download the 434MB 5-language file from > http://tinyurl.com/32z6vj > 4. Start > msconfig (as administrator). > 5. Under Services tab, check the Hide all Microsoft > services box. > 6. Under Services tab, Disable all. > 7. Under Startup tab, Disable all. > 8. Reboot. > 9. Install the SP1 download - expect 30-60 minutes with > 2-3 reboots. > 10. When complete, go to msconfig as administrator > again, restore the Services and Startups you wish to > run, or under the General tab select Normal startup. > > You're finished. > > If you encounter any conflicts, use msconfig to suppress > the startup or service causing it, and seek the latest > driver, file, app, etc. > > If you cannot get an updated file/app/driver that is > compatible with SP1, and you must have that function, > roll back. Sorry... > > No warranty with this advice, though I was successful on > three recalcitrant computers that should have updated > the simple way, but wouldn't. They run fine now, showing > 6001. Good luck to you, and please report here. > > Ike -- > Who is definitely NOT an MVP but got this the hard way. Nice little piece of work imho!!! My SP1 went fine, but I printed this off in case I have other problems - I usually forget just how easy it is to get a raw basic system! Nice! Thanks! -- Kris ---------- DFI Infinity Blood-Iron P35-T2RL \| E2200Alen 2.2@xxxxxx TtP0310 \| 2x1gb Mushkin HP 800@xxxxxx \| MSI NX8600GTS-OC 256mb \| Raidmax RX530-SS psu \| Vista Ult 32 SP1
My System Specs

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