Vista Tutorial - Vista SP1 - Major network performance problems

03-25-2008

I loaded Vista SP1 on three different computers. Two at home and one at work.

I have experienced major reductions in file copy performance over the network.

At work, my Vista x64 SP1 station has seen an 18 to 20 fold reduction in
network file copy performance between some servers. The reduction in
performance is from about 40 MB/s to 600 KB/s between certain Win2K3 servers.

At home, I have three Vista x64 systems. Two have SP1 and one does not.
Copying files from one Vista SP1 system to the other SP1 system has seen a
20 fold reduction in performance after SP1, however the performance reduction
is only in one direction. If I copy files TO the other machine, it's slow,
but if I copy files FROM the other machine, it's very fast. After SP1, the
speed was reduced from about 80 MB/s to less than 5 MB/s. I have no
performance issues copying to or from the non-SP1 machine from the other SP1
machines.

Of course, this is totally unacceptable and I cannot run the machines like
that. I have uninstalled SP1 from my work machine and now it's fine again.

At home, I've messed with it for days, trying all kinds of different
suggestions, drivers, registry hacks, and even tried different network cards
to no avail.

If I cannot fix these network performance issues, I won't be able to use SP1.
I'm really at a loss and grasping at straws here.

Does anyone have any ideas?

03-25-2008

"NB" <NB@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>I loaded Vista SP1 on three different computers. Two at home and one at
>work.
>
> I have experienced major reductions in file copy performance over the
> network.

Quote:

> Does anyone have any ideas?

Have you tried this:

http://www.maximumpcguides.com/disab...l-compression/

03-25-2008

I have no prob with Bob C's advice, but it didn't work for my system. I had
to set the Properties of the Ethernet device, in device manager, to '10 Mpbs
half duplex' to get the speed up. YMMV, I would try changing to several
speeds to see what works best.
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"NB" wrote:

Quote:

> I loaded Vista SP1 on three different computers. Two at home and one at work.
>
> I have experienced major reductions in file copy performance over the network.
>
> At work, my Vista x64 SP1 station has seen an 18 to 20 fold reduction in
> network file copy performance between some servers. The reduction in
> performance is from about 40 MB/s to 600 KB/s between certain Win2K3 servers.
>
> At home, I have three Vista x64 systems. Two have SP1 and one does not.
> Copying files from one Vista SP1 system to the other SP1 system has seen a
> 20 fold reduction in performance after SP1, however the performance reduction
> is only in one direction. If I copy files TO the other machine, it's slow,
> but if I copy files FROM the other machine, it's very fast. After SP1, the
> speed was reduced from about 80 MB/s to less than 5 MB/s. I have no
> performance issues copying to or from the non-SP1 machine from the other SP1
> machines.
>
> Of course, this is totally unacceptable and I cannot run the machines like
> that. I have uninstalled SP1 from my work machine and now it's fine again.
>
> At home, I've messed with it for days, trying all kinds of different
> suggestions, drivers, registry hacks, and even tried different network cards
> to no avail.
>
> If I cannot fix these network performance issues, I won't be able to use SP1.
> I'm really at a loss and grasping at straws here.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas?

03-25-2008

Copy function is to one of the major advantages of Vista as per the
following:

http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/rss.xml

Microsoft provides free SP1 support at:

https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...4&gprid=500921

"NB" <NB@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>I loaded Vista SP1 on three different computers. Two at home and one at
>work.
>
> I have experienced major reductions in file copy performance over the
> network.
>
> At work, my Vista x64 SP1 station has seen an 18 to 20 fold reduction in
> network file copy performance between some servers. The reduction in
> performance is from about 40 MB/s to 600 KB/s between certain Win2K3
> servers.
>
> At home, I have three Vista x64 systems. Two have SP1 and one does not.
> Copying files from one Vista SP1 system to the other SP1 system has seen a
> 20 fold reduction in performance after SP1, however the performance
> reduction
> is only in one direction. If I copy files TO the other machine, it's
> slow,
> but if I copy files FROM the other machine, it's very fast. After SP1,
> the
> speed was reduced from about 80 MB/s to less than 5 MB/s. I have no
> performance issues copying to or from the non-SP1 machine from the other
> SP1
> machines.
>
> Of course, this is totally unacceptable and I cannot run the machines like
> that. I have uninstalled SP1 from my work machine and now it's fine
> again.
>
> At home, I've messed with it for days, trying all kinds of different
> suggestions, drivers, registry hacks, and even tried different network
> cards
> to no avail.
>
> If I cannot fix these network performance issues, I won't be able to use
> SP1.
> I'm really at a loss and grasping at straws here.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas?

03-25-2008

in my ethernet device I see serveral option ranging from
1000 Mbps full to 10 Mbps half

I know that my network card only goes up to 100
should I set it as 100Mbps half then ?
what's the diference between half and full ?

cheers : )

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"Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@xxxxxx> wrote in
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Quote:

>I have no prob with Bob C's advice, but it didn't work for my system. I had
> to set the Properties of the Ethernet device, in device manager, to '10
> Mpbs
> half duplex' to get the speed up. YMMV, I would try changing to several
> speeds to see what works best.
> --
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>
> Mark L. Ferguson
>
>
> "NB" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> I loaded Vista SP1 on three different computers. Two at home and one at
>> work.
>>
>> I have experienced major reductions in file copy performance over the
>> network.
>>
>> At work, my Vista x64 SP1 station has seen an 18 to 20 fold reduction in
>> network file copy performance between some servers. The reduction in
>> performance is from about 40 MB/s to 600 KB/s between certain Win2K3
>> servers.
>>
>> At home, I have three Vista x64 systems. Two have SP1 and one does not.
>> Copying files from one Vista SP1 system to the other SP1 system has seen
>> a
>> 20 fold reduction in performance after SP1, however the performance
>> reduction
>> is only in one direction. If I copy files TO the other machine, it's
>> slow,
>> but if I copy files FROM the other machine, it's very fast. After SP1,
>> the
>> speed was reduced from about 80 MB/s to less than 5 MB/s. I have no
>> performance issues copying to or from the non-SP1 machine from the other
>> SP1
>> machines.
>>
>> Of course, this is totally unacceptable and I cannot run the machines
>> like
>> that. I have uninstalled SP1 from my work machine and now it's fine
>> again.
>>
>> At home, I've messed with it for days, trying all kinds of different
>> suggestions, drivers, registry hacks, and even tried different network
>> cards
>> to no avail.
>>
>> If I cannot fix these network performance issues, I won't be able to use
>> SP1.
>> I'm really at a loss and grasping at straws here.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas?

03-25-2008

I tried them all, mine worked beast at '10 mpbs half duplex,' your mileage
may vary.

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"â€»James~å°ç‹—â€»" <james@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> in my ethernet device I see serveral option ranging from
> 1000 Mbps full to 10 Mbps half
>
> I know that my network card only goes up to 100
> should I set it as 100Mbps half then ?
> what's the diference between half and full ?
>
> cheers : )
>
> --
> www.james-ho.com
> news://news.balabu.net/balaboy.james
> æœ‰äº‹æ‰¾æˆ‘.
> "Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@xxxxxx> wrote in
> message news:CCDCE196-C5C5-4646-9F9E-97F4FBC96873@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>I have no prob with Bob C's advice, but it didn't work for my system. I
>>had
>> to set the Properties of the Ethernet device, in device manager, to '10
>> Mpbs
>> half duplex' to get the speed up. YMMV, I would try changing to several
>> speeds to see what works best.
>> --
>> Was this helpful? Then click the "Yes" Ratings button. Voting helps the
>> web
>> interface. http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales...help_en-us.htm see
>> ''rate a post''
>>
>> Mark L. Ferguson
>>
>>
>> "NB" wrote:
>>

Quote:

>>> I loaded Vista SP1 on three different computers. Two at home and one at
>>> work.
>>>
>>> I have experienced major reductions in file copy performance over the
>>> network.
>>>
>>> At work, my Vista x64 SP1 station has seen an 18 to 20 fold reduction in
>>> network file copy performance between some servers. The reduction in
>>> performance is from about 40 MB/s to 600 KB/s between certain Win2K3
>>> servers.
>>>
>>> At home, I have three Vista x64 systems. Two have SP1 and one does not.
>>> Copying files from one Vista SP1 system to the other SP1 system has seen
>>> a
>>> 20 fold reduction in performance after SP1, however the performance
>>> reduction
>>> is only in one direction. If I copy files TO the other machine, it's
>>> slow,
>>> but if I copy files FROM the other machine, it's very fast. After SP1,
>>> the
>>> speed was reduced from about 80 MB/s to less than 5 MB/s. I have no
>>> performance issues copying to or from the non-SP1 machine from the other
>>> SP1
>>> machines.
>>>
>>> Of course, this is totally unacceptable and I cannot run the machines
>>> like
>>> that. I have uninstalled SP1 from my work machine and now it's fine
>>> again.
>>>
>>> At home, I've messed with it for days, trying all kinds of different
>>> suggestions, drivers, registry hacks, and even tried different network
>>> cards
>>> to no avail.
>>>
>>> If I cannot fix these network performance issues, I won't be able to use
>>> SP1.
>>> I'm really at a loss and grasping at straws here.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any ideas?

>

03-25-2008

"Bob Campbell" wrote:

Quote:

> Have you tried this:
>
> http://www.maximumpcguides.com/disab...l-compression/

Yes, I've tried that and practically every other hack I could find on the
Internet.
No change. It's still very, very slow.

I'd rather not uninstall SP1, but it looks like this is becoming my only
option.

03-25-2008	#1 (permalink)
NB Guest n/a posts	Vista SP1 - Major network performance problems I loaded Vista SP1 on three different computers. Two at home and one at work. I have experienced major reductions in file copy performance over the network. At work, my Vista x64 SP1 station has seen an 18 to 20 fold reduction in network file copy performance between some servers. The reduction in performance is from about 40 MB/s to 600 KB/s between certain Win2K3 servers. At home, I have three Vista x64 systems. Two have SP1 and one does not. Copying files from one Vista SP1 system to the other SP1 system has seen a 20 fold reduction in performance after SP1, however the performance reduction is only in one direction. If I copy files TO the other machine, it's slow, but if I copy files FROM the other machine, it's very fast. After SP1, the speed was reduced from about 80 MB/s to less than 5 MB/s. I have no performance issues copying to or from the non-SP1 machine from the other SP1 machines. Of course, this is totally unacceptable and I cannot run the machines like that. I have uninstalled SP1 from my work machine and now it's fine again. At home, I've messed with it for days, trying all kinds of different suggestions, drivers, registry hacks, and even tried different network cards to no avail. If I cannot fix these network performance issues, I won't be able to use SP1. I'm really at a loss and grasping at straws here. Does anyone have any ideas?
My System Specs

03-25-2008	#2 (permalink)
Bob Campbell Guest n/a posts	Re: Vista SP1 - Major network performance problems "NB" <NB@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:B4CD980B-B303-4F97-827A-2B3A2FC43DA3@xxxxxx Quote: >I loaded Vista SP1 on three different computers. Two at home and one at >work. > > I have experienced major reductions in file copy performance over the > network. Quote: > Does anyone have any ideas? Have you tried this: http://www.maximumpcguides.com/disab...l-compression/
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03-25-2008	#3 (permalink)
Mark L. Ferguson Guest n/a posts	RE: Vista SP1 - Major network performance problems I have no prob with Bob C's advice, but it didn't work for my system. I had to set the Properties of the Ethernet device, in device manager, to '10 Mpbs half duplex' to get the speed up. YMMV, I would try changing to several speeds to see what works best. -- Was this helpful? Then click the "Yes" Ratings button. Voting helps the web interface. http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales...help_en-us.htm see ''rate a post'' Mark L. Ferguson "NB" wrote: Quote: > I loaded Vista SP1 on three different computers. Two at home and one at work. > > I have experienced major reductions in file copy performance over the network. > > At work, my Vista x64 SP1 station has seen an 18 to 20 fold reduction in > network file copy performance between some servers. The reduction in > performance is from about 40 MB/s to 600 KB/s between certain Win2K3 servers. > > At home, I have three Vista x64 systems. Two have SP1 and one does not. > Copying files from one Vista SP1 system to the other SP1 system has seen a > 20 fold reduction in performance after SP1, however the performance reduction > is only in one direction. If I copy files TO the other machine, it's slow, > but if I copy files FROM the other machine, it's very fast. After SP1, the > speed was reduced from about 80 MB/s to less than 5 MB/s. I have no > performance issues copying to or from the non-SP1 machine from the other SP1 > machines. > > Of course, this is totally unacceptable and I cannot run the machines like > that. I have uninstalled SP1 from my work machine and now it's fine again. > > At home, I've messed with it for days, trying all kinds of different > suggestions, drivers, registry hacks, and even tried different network cards > to no avail. > > If I cannot fix these network performance issues, I won't be able to use SP1. > I'm really at a loss and grasping at straws here. > > Does anyone have any ideas?
My System Specs

03-25-2008	#4 (permalink)
AJR Guest n/a posts	Re: Vista SP1 - Major network performance problems Copy function is to one of the major advantages of Vista as per the following: http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/rss.xml Microsoft provides free SP1 support at: https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...4&gprid=500921 "NB" <NB@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:B4CD980B-B303-4F97-827A-2B3A2FC43DA3@xxxxxx Quote: >I loaded Vista SP1 on three different computers. Two at home and one at >work. > > I have experienced major reductions in file copy performance over the > network. > > At work, my Vista x64 SP1 station has seen an 18 to 20 fold reduction in > network file copy performance between some servers. The reduction in > performance is from about 40 MB/s to 600 KB/s between certain Win2K3 > servers. > > At home, I have three Vista x64 systems. Two have SP1 and one does not. > Copying files from one Vista SP1 system to the other SP1 system has seen a > 20 fold reduction in performance after SP1, however the performance > reduction > is only in one direction. If I copy files TO the other machine, it's > slow, > but if I copy files FROM the other machine, it's very fast. After SP1, > the > speed was reduced from about 80 MB/s to less than 5 MB/s. I have no > performance issues copying to or from the non-SP1 machine from the other > SP1 > machines. > > Of course, this is totally unacceptable and I cannot run the machines like > that. I have uninstalled SP1 from my work machine and now it's fine > again. > > At home, I've messed with it for days, trying all kinds of different > suggestions, drivers, registry hacks, and even tried different network > cards > to no avail. > > If I cannot fix these network performance issues, I won't be able to use > SP1. > I'm really at a loss and grasping at straws here. > > Does anyone have any ideas?
My System Specs

03-25-2008	#5 (permalink)
â€»James~å°ç‹—â€» Guest n/a posts	Re: Vista SP1 - Major network performance problems in my ethernet device I see serveral option ranging from 1000 Mbps full to 10 Mbps half I know that my network card only goes up to 100 should I set it as 100Mbps half then ? what's the diference between half and full ? cheers : ) -- www.james-ho.com news://news.balabu.net/balaboy.james æœ‰äº‹æ‰¾æˆ‘. "Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:CCDCE196-C5C5-4646-9F9E-97F4FBC96873@xxxxxx Quote: >I have no prob with Bob C's advice, but it didn't work for my system. I had > to set the Properties of the Ethernet device, in device manager, to '10 > Mpbs > half duplex' to get the speed up. YMMV, I would try changing to several > speeds to see what works best. > -- > Was this helpful? Then click the "Yes" Ratings button. Voting helps the > web > interface. http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales...help_en-us.htm see > ''rate a post'' > > Mark L. Ferguson > > > "NB" wrote: > Quote: >> I loaded Vista SP1 on three different computers. Two at home and one at >> work. >> >> I have experienced major reductions in file copy performance over the >> network. >> >> At work, my Vista x64 SP1 station has seen an 18 to 20 fold reduction in >> network file copy performance between some servers. The reduction in >> performance is from about 40 MB/s to 600 KB/s between certain Win2K3 >> servers. >> >> At home, I have three Vista x64 systems. Two have SP1 and one does not. >> Copying files from one Vista SP1 system to the other SP1 system has seen >> a >> 20 fold reduction in performance after SP1, however the performance >> reduction >> is only in one direction. If I copy files TO the other machine, it's >> slow, >> but if I copy files FROM the other machine, it's very fast. After SP1, >> the >> speed was reduced from about 80 MB/s to less than 5 MB/s. I have no >> performance issues copying to or from the non-SP1 machine from the other >> SP1 >> machines. >> >> Of course, this is totally unacceptable and I cannot run the machines >> like >> that. I have uninstalled SP1 from my work machine and now it's fine >> again. >> >> At home, I've messed with it for days, trying all kinds of different >> suggestions, drivers, registry hacks, and even tried different network >> cards >> to no avail. >> >> If I cannot fix these network performance issues, I won't be able to use >> SP1. >> I'm really at a loss and grasping at straws here. >> >> Does anyone have any ideas?
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03-25-2008	#6 (permalink)
Mark L. Ferguson Guest n/a posts	Re: Vista SP1 - Major network performance problems I tried them all, mine worked beast at '10 mpbs half duplex,' your mileage may vary. -- Was this helpful? Then click the Ratings button. Voting helps the web interface. http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales...eAPostAsAnswer Mark L. Ferguson .. "â€»James~å°ç‹—â€»" <james@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#pwWUOtjIHA.5088@xxxxxx Quote: > in my ethernet device I see serveral option ranging from > 1000 Mbps full to 10 Mbps half > > I know that my network card only goes up to 100 > should I set it as 100Mbps half then ? > what's the diference between half and full ? > > cheers : ) > > -- > www.james-ho.com > news://news.balabu.net/balaboy.james > æœ‰äº‹æ‰¾æˆ‘. > "Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@xxxxxx> wrote in > message news:CCDCE196-C5C5-4646-9F9E-97F4FBC96873@xxxxxx Quote: >>I have no prob with Bob C's advice, but it didn't work for my system. I >>had >> to set the Properties of the Ethernet device, in device manager, to '10 >> Mpbs >> half duplex' to get the speed up. YMMV, I would try changing to several >> speeds to see what works best. >> -- >> Was this helpful? Then click the "Yes" Ratings button. Voting helps the >> web >> interface. http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales...help_en-us.htm see >> ''rate a post'' >> >> Mark L. Ferguson >> >> >> "NB" wrote: >> Quote: >>> I loaded Vista SP1 on three different computers. Two at home and one at >>> work. >>> >>> I have experienced major reductions in file copy performance over the >>> network. >>> >>> At work, my Vista x64 SP1 station has seen an 18 to 20 fold reduction in >>> network file copy performance between some servers. The reduction in >>> performance is from about 40 MB/s to 600 KB/s between certain Win2K3 >>> servers. >>> >>> At home, I have three Vista x64 systems. Two have SP1 and one does not. >>> Copying files from one Vista SP1 system to the other SP1 system has seen >>> a >>> 20 fold reduction in performance after SP1, however the performance >>> reduction >>> is only in one direction. If I copy files TO the other machine, it's >>> slow, >>> but if I copy files FROM the other machine, it's very fast. After SP1, >>> the >>> speed was reduced from about 80 MB/s to less than 5 MB/s. I have no >>> performance issues copying to or from the non-SP1 machine from the other >>> SP1 >>> machines. >>> >>> Of course, this is totally unacceptable and I cannot run the machines >>> like >>> that. I have uninstalled SP1 from my work machine and now it's fine >>> again. >>> >>> At home, I've messed with it for days, trying all kinds of different >>> suggestions, drivers, registry hacks, and even tried different network >>> cards >>> to no avail. >>> >>> If I cannot fix these network performance issues, I won't be able to use >>> SP1. >>> I'm really at a loss and grasping at straws here. >>> >>> Does anyone have any ideas? >
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03-25-2008	#7 (permalink)
NB Guest n/a posts	Re: Vista SP1 - Major network performance problems "Bob Campbell" wrote: Quote: > Have you tried this: > > http://www.maximumpcguides.com/disab...l-compression/ Yes, I've tried that and practically every other hack I could find on the Internet. No change. It's still very, very slow. I'd rather not uninstall SP1, but it looks like this is becoming my only option.
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