Hello everyone,

I know, no one wants to hear this, but it is absolutely unbelievable what MS
does for its main customers. According to the Vista Website the beta will be
public in a few weeks (!!!!!) for non MSDN or tech net subscribers.

Why this? I´ve an idea: To prefer people willing to pay extra money for msdn
or technet. Being a MCP doesn´t count (why - they didnt pay....).

I don´t know why I try to convince my boss not using Linux instead of
Windows. I think I will not do so in future. Microsoft doesn´t care about
tech enthusiasts, not even a little bit.



Sorry for the bad english, just opened a bottle of vodka after reading the
"few weeks" line on the vista website.

> I know, no one wants to hear this, but it is absolutely unbelievable what
> MS
> does for its main customers. According to the Vista Website the beta will
> be
> public in a few weeks (!!!!!) for non MSDN or tech net subscribers.

They did the same thing with almost every previous version of Windows.
Why does this surprise or shock you?

Tom Lake

> Why does this surprise or shock you?

Because there are people out there who don´t know anything about windows,
who usually ask me for support but they know someone at microsoft austria and
are in the technical beta for about a year and they didn´t even file a single
bug (of course).

I tried to resist from downloading vista somewhere and when it´s time again
- what did I get - nothing, once again... Obviously dating a female microsoft
employee in the right position is more helpful in getting into a technical
beta than knowing windows.

What should I say more: So be it (and my bottle of vodka is still with me
*g*).

I would take the time to get familar with the Program Guide to better
prepare yourself for Vista BETA 2:
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...ct%20Guide.doc
--
Andre
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"Markus_h" <Markush@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F83AB65A-3F0A-4778-9479-3505E6CAF2A6@microsoft.com...
> Hello everyone,
>
> I know, no one wants to hear this, but it is absolutely unbelievable what
> MS
> does for its main customers. According to the Vista Website the beta will
> be
> public in a few weeks (!!!!!) for non MSDN or tech net subscribers.
>
> Why this? I´ve an idea: To prefer people willing to pay extra money for
> msdn
> or technet. Being a MCP doesn´t count (why - they didnt pay....).
>
> I don´t know why I try to convince my boss not using Linux instead of
> Windows. I think I will not do so in future. Microsoft doesn´t care about
> tech enthusiasts, not even a little bit.
>
> Sorry for the bad english, just opened a bottle of vodka after reading the
> "few weeks" line on the vista website.

Beta 2 is NOT a Public Beta, Never Has Been, and Never Will be a Public Beta
(Sign up for MSDN or Wait Until Release Candidate 1, Just FYI)!

"Markus_h" <Markush@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F83AB65A-3F0A-4778-9479-3505E6CAF2A6@microsoft.com...
> Hello everyone,
>
> I know, no one wants to hear this, but it is absolutely unbelievable what
> MS
> does for its main customers. According to the Vista Website the beta will
> be
> public in a few weeks (!!!!!) for non MSDN or tech net subscribers.
>
> Why this? I´ve an idea: To prefer people willing to pay extra money for
> msdn
> or technet. Being a MCP doesn´t count (why - they didnt pay....).
>
> I don´t know why I try to convince my boss not using Linux instead of
> Windows. I think I will not do so in future. Microsoft doesn´t care about
> tech enthusiasts, not even a little bit.
>
> Sorry for the bad english, just opened a bottle of vodka after reading the
> "few weeks" line on the vista website.

Kevin John Panzke wrote:
> Beta 2 is NOT a Public Beta, Never Has Been, and Never Will be a Public Beta
> (Sign up for MSDN or Wait Until Release Candidate 1, Just FYI)!
>
> "Markus_h" <Markush@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F83AB65A-3F0A-4778-9479-3505E6CAF2A6@microsoft.com...
>
>>Hello everyone,
>>
>>I know, no one wants to hear this, but it is absolutely unbelievable what
>>MS
>>does for its main customers. According to the Vista Website the beta will
>>be
>>public in a few weeks (!!!!!) for non MSDN or tech net subscribers.
>>
>>Why this? I´ve an idea: To prefer people willing to pay extra money for
>>msdn
>>or technet. Being a MCP doesn´t count (why - they didnt pay....).
>>
>>I don´t know why I try to convince my boss not using Linux instead of
>>Windows. I think I will not do so in future. Microsoft doesn´t care about
>>tech enthusiasts, not even a little bit.
>>
>>Sorry for the bad english, just opened a bottle of vodka after reading the
>>"few weeks" line on the vista website.
>
>
>

It seems the only reason you open your mouth is to change your feet!
(just FYI)!
Frank

You are so wrong. Why don't you Read Microsoft's web site. There will be a
public beta in the coming days/weeks.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win...ta/get_it.mspx

"In the coming weeks, Microsoft will start the Windows Vista Customer
Preview Program (CPP) for developers and IT professionals who are not a part
of one of those programs to obtain Windows Vista Beta 2 and begin their own
testing."

--
Jason
Windows Vista, Build 5308


"Kevin John Panzke" <kevpan815@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ufOfv3ufGHA.324@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Beta 2 is NOT a Public Beta, Never Has Been, and Never Will be a Public
> Beta (Sign up for MSDN or Wait Until Release Candidate 1, Just FYI)!
>
> "Markus_h" <Markush@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F83AB65A-3F0A-4778-9479-3505E6CAF2A6@microsoft.com...
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I know, no one wants to hear this, but it is absolutely unbelievable what
>> MS
>> does for its main customers. According to the Vista Website the beta will
>> be
>> public in a few weeks (!!!!!) for non MSDN or tech net subscribers.
>>
>> Why this? I´ve an idea: To prefer people willing to pay extra money for
>> msdn
>> or technet. Being a MCP doesn´t count (why - they didnt pay....).
>>
>> I don´t know why I try to convince my boss not using Linux instead of
>> Windows. I think I will not do so in future. Microsoft doesn´t care about
>> tech enthusiasts, not even a little bit.
>>
>> Sorry for the bad english, just opened a bottle of vodka after reading
>> the
>> "few weeks" line on the vista website.
>
>

I guess they dont wanna distribute to everyone at same time, cause theres
lots of work coming with it.

Distributing by sending media ... send all the discs need some preparation.
Download distributions ... not everyone can download at same time (unless u
wanna download at 0.1kb/s )

"Markus_h" <Markush@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F83AB65A-3F0A-4778-9479-3505E6CAF2A6@microsoft.com...
> Hello everyone,
>
> I know, no one wants to hear this, but it is absolutely unbelievable what
> MS
> does for its main customers. According to the Vista Website the beta will
> be
> public in a few weeks (!!!!!) for non MSDN or tech net subscribers.
>
> Why this? I´ve an idea: To prefer people willing to pay extra money for
> msdn
> or technet. Being a MCP doesn´t count (why - they didnt pay....).
>
> I don´t know why I try to convince my boss not using Linux instead of
> Windows. I think I will not do so in future. Microsoft doesn´t care about
> tech enthusiasts, not even a little bit.
>
> Sorry for the bad english, just opened a bottle of vodka after reading the
> "few weeks" line on the vista website.

"Deborggraeve Randy" <randy1130@moerstaal.nl> wrote in message
news:%23iZom5vfGHA.4932@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I guess they dont wanna distribute to everyone at same time, cause theres
>lots of work coming with it.
>
> Distributing by sending media ... send all the discs need some
> preparation.
> Download distributions ... not everyone can download at same time (unless
> u wanna download at 0.1kb/s )
>
> "Markus_h" <Markush@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F83AB65A-3F0A-4778-9479-3505E6CAF2A6@microsoft.com...
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I know, no one wants to hear this, but it is absolutely unbelievable what
>> MS
>> does for its main customers. According to the Vista Website the beta will
>> be
>> public in a few weeks (!!!!!) for non MSDN or tech net subscribers.
>>
>> Why this? I´ve an idea: To prefer people willing to pay extra money for
>> msdn
>> or technet. Being a MCP doesn´t count (why - they didnt pay....).
>>
>> I don´t know why I try to convince my boss not using Linux instead of
>> Windows. I think I will not do so in future. Microsoft doesn´t care about
>> tech enthusiasts, not even a little bit.
>>
>> Sorry for the bad english, just opened a bottle of vodka after reading
>> the
>> "few weeks" line on the vista website.
>
>

I rather imagine they want to spread out the load on the servers from how
many are downloading it.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP, OE/WM
http://www.fjsmjs.com
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